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Joe Biden's Mouth: 'If the Sparks Fly, So Be It'

August 23, 2008 10:22 AM

"The White House isn't the place to learn how to deal with international crisis, the balance of power, war and peace, and the economic future of the next generation," said a TV ad for Sen. Joe Biden's 1988 presidential campaign.  "A President has got to know the territory, but that's not enough."

The ad says, "Joe Biden thinks its time to remind the world of what America stands for. Freedom. Equality. Justice. Opportunity. He thinks it's time to put courage over compromise, time to express America's outrage once again towards repression, brutality, violence, the abuse of human dignity around the world. And if the sparks fly, so be it."

If the sparks fly, so be it. Not a bad slogan for Mr. Biden.

Sen. Joe Biden, D-Dela., has long said what's on his mind with that attitude.

He's got a mouth on him. The sparks have flown.

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, and his team are hoping it's a mouth that does them good, not ill.

He told our friend Jeffrey Goldberg three years ago, "The Lord Almighty, or Allah, whoever, if he came to every kitchen table in America and said, 'Look, I have a Faustian bargain for you, you choose. I will guarantee to you that I will end all terror threats against the United States within the year, but in return for that there will be no help for education, no help for Social Security, no help for health care. What do you do?' My answer is that seventy-five per cent of the American people would buy that bargain."

Campaigning for president in New Hampshire in 1987, Biden admitted he had misstated several facts about his resume after a man named Frank questioned his Syracuse Law School resume.

''I think I have a much higher I.Q. than you do," Biden responded.

He added that he ''went to law school on a full academic scholarship - the only one in my class to have a full academic scholarship,'' adding that he ''ended up in the top half'' of his class (not true) and ''graduated with three degrees from college" (not true).

Five months later, Biden acknowledged that he graduated 76th in a class of 85. ''I did not graduate in the top half of my class at law school and my recollection of this was inaccurate," he said in a statement.  He graduated with one degree -- a B.A. -- in two majors, history and political science.

''I exaggerate when I'm angry,'' Biden told the New York Times, ''but I've never gone around telling people things that aren't true about me...'I guess every single word I've ever said is going to be dissected now.''

More recently, Biden raised eyebrows as a presidential candidate running in 2008, telling an Indian-American, "In Delaware the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans, you cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent." (Watch HERE.)

Responding to a question from Fox News' Chris Wallace about how a Northeastern liberal like him could compete in the South, Biden said, "you don't know my state. My state was a slave state, my state was a border state, my state has the 8th largest black population, it's anything but a Northeast liberal state." (Watch HERE.)

He has a grittiness, a candor, a feistiness.

He said he would shove a troop funding bill veto down President Bush's throat. (Watch HERE.)

He called former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani "the most underqualified man since George Bush to seek the presidency...Rudy Giuliani, there's only three things he mentions in a sentence -- a noun, and a verb and 9/11." (Watch HERE.)

And of course he said of Obama himself, "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." The implication that other African-American leaders weren't clean or articulate certainly raised some hackles.

"Barack Obama is probably the most exciting candidate that either the Democratic or Republican party has produced at least since I've been around," Biden later qualified. "He's fresh, he's new, he's insightful."

Biden said he regretted that "some have taken totally out of context my use of the word 'clean.'..My mother has an expression 'clean as a whistle, sharp as a tack,'" Biden said. "Look, the idea is, this guy is something brand new no one has seen before."

According to Biden, Obama told his colleague, "'Joe, you don't have to explain anything to me.'" Biden said he felt Obama "knew what I meant by it."

Both men are no doubt hoping he doesn't have any similar explanations to make in the next three months.

- jpt

August 23, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (122)

User Comments

THIS ELECTION HANGS ON A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE AND JOE BIDEN IS THERE FOR A REASON. SO,IF I HAVE NOT CAUSED YOU TO PANIC YET...YOU NEED TO STAND...JOE BIDEN KNOWS HIS STUFF AND WE NEED HIM DESPERATELY. ALQAEDA IS IN THE UNITED STATES AND JOE BIDEN IS AWARE OF THAT FACT...SOMETHING THAT BUSH HAS HIDDEN FOR A VERY LONG TIME. I JUST FINISHED AIDING A CASE MYSELF...PLEASE..WAKE UP..WE ARE IN TROUBLE HERE. THE BUSH REGIME DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT THE ABSOLUTE DANGERS ARE WHILE THEY ARE STILL IN OFFICE.

SUMMATION: ALQAEDA IS IN THE UNITED STATES.
BUSH HAS LIED TO FUND A USELESS WAR IN IRAQ AND DRAINED OUR ECONOMY.
BUSH DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH HE HAS DRAINED UNTIL HE IS GONE.
BUSH DOES NOT KNOW THAT HELL HAS NO LIMITS AND HE IS NOT AN EXCEPTION IN CRAWFORD , TEXAS. WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND...GEORGE GET A SADDLE...YOUR MERRY GO ROUND WILL FIND YOU WITHOUT MY HELP. MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Posted by: SUE DUVALL SMITH | Sep 15, 2008 12:46:54 PM

PEOPLE...PLEASE WAKE UP...WHILE YOU HAVE BEEN BUSY FIGHTING OVER PETTY,POLITICAL ARGUMENTS...THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN OCCUPIED BY ALQAEDA CELLS...SLEEPERS...JUST WAITING FOR AN AMERICAN COLLAPSE.WE HAVE SLEEPERS IN EVERY STATE IN THIS COUNTRY...AND THEN SOME. SO WAKE UP TO THE ABSOLUTE AND REAL ISSUES HERE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE
OR YOU WON'T LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE YOUR PENSION OR YOUR GRANDKIDS. WE ARE IN TROUBLE..BY THE WAY...YOUR GRANDKIDS ARE A PRIORITY...YOUR PENSION IS NOT NOR IS IT GUARANTEED!

Posted by: SUE DUVALL SMITH | Sep 15, 2008 12:29:22 PM

OUR FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS ARE CRASHING...THERE ARE NO JOBS...AND THE OUTLOOK FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS QUITE POOR. WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED AMERICA?
WE ARE ON THE DOWNSLIDE. WHEN YOU HIT ROCK BOTTOM..CALL ME! I CAN SAY..'I TOLD YOU SO.'

Posted by: sue duvall smith | Sep 15, 2008 12:07:42 PM

I was really offended with the opening sentence of Joe Biden's VP acceptance speech last night. I quote "This has been a h--- of a week." Also at least two times he used God's name in vain. Is this the kind of rhetoric we are going to have to listen to over the next two months? He may not drink or smoke but he could use a little more class in his oratory and a little less profanity in public speaking.

Posted by: Betty Frair | Aug 28, 2008 9:52:05 AM

These two gaffe machines were meant for each other! LOL, this will be a laughable convention if nothing else.

First Obama calls Biden 'The next president of the United States' then it's Biden's turn to shine by calling Obama, 'Barack Amer...Obama', LOL

All of this hoopla to elect the next democrat losers!!

Posted by: Typical White Woman | Aug 25, 2008 12:49:58 PM

I have voted dem every election - except I did vote for Schwarzenegger- since 1972. Now I will vote for McCain. I will vote Dem downticket but not for Barry O. I can't stand him, he is a joke, half baked fake creation of the Daley machine. I have detested him and his more disgusting wife from the beginning. Go back to Illinois. In fairness to the people there they had no choice - him or Keyes. I feel sorry for them. He will lose in a landslide. I will not feel safe if he is elected. Our enemies are waiting to test him. He will be the liberal Bush - another incompetent unqualified joke.

Posted by: mrsnivel | Aug 25, 2008 2:59:44 AM

A week ago you couldn't have paid us to vote for Obama, but now he has shown that he really does have good judgment by selecting Joe Biden for VP. Now we will both be there for the ticket because with Joe Biden on board we know that the country would be in good hands.

We volunteered for Joe in Iowa and he was wise and genuine and wonderful. I will now not only vote for Obama/Biden but will likely volunteer to work for the campaign as well.

Posted by: Donna Hughes | Aug 24, 2008 8:48:51 PM

I read these supposed opinions and there are so many disingenuous remarks, but what should I expect?! This chat is just politics, where accountability doesn't count and inverted hyperbole passes for sincere home spun humor. One liar even said he was a Dem going over to vote Rep for the first time. Oh, yea, right, and he had such big issues with Geo Bush. Hey, you want it sraight, say it straight. Try that for a change, because unless we go bi-partisan, everybody loses.

Posted by: DTK | Aug 24, 2008 8:42:11 PM

Biden provides familiarity and gravitas to the ticket. For those intrigued by Obama but have reservations because he is less familiar Biden will add some comfort. Biden is well known highly respected both at home and abroad.

Obama/Biden will improve Americas image around the world.

Posted by: JuJu | Aug 24, 2008 4:10:57 PM

If Joe really thinks he can support abortion and be a good Catholic - he's a fool and a liar.

Posted by: mary | Aug 24, 2008 1:40:16 PM

USA/GAllOP POLL latest :

The poll, taken Saturday of 876 registered voters, showed just 14 percent of registered voters said Obama’s choice makes them more likely to vote for him.

After John Kerry chose former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards as his running mate in 2004, 24 % of registered voters said they were more likely to vote for him.

16% said they were more likely to vote for Al Gore in 2000 after he chose Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman. In 1992, Gore gave Bill Clinton much more clout — 33 percent said they were more likely to vote for Clinton because of his running mate selection.

We know the history ...only Clinton won the GE.

Posted by: Dead Cat Bounce | Aug 24, 2008 12:52:57 PM

Not since Dan Quayle has there been a stranger choice.

Posted by: greg | Aug 24, 2008 10:30:13 AM

Obama made a fantastic choice! What have the Conservatives delivered? A nation more hated around the world, a nation less safe, more in debt, lies, deceit, trampling on the Constitution, outing a CIA agent, lost emails during critical times of the Bush administration, prisoner torture, and on and on. Obama and Biden will restore our moral compass in the world, get our allies behind us again, implement a sensible energy policy, and get our economy back on track. McSame, McBush, McNoMore.

Posted by: George | Aug 24, 2008 6:37:02 AM

Biden is going to be a disaster. If Obama is smart, he will keep Biden far, far in the background.

Posted by: DennisNC | Aug 24, 2008 6:08:56 AM

Where are those Obama supporters that were saying that Obama was going to get a huge double digit jump in the polls after the nominee was named at the convention? You guys are so wrong...and are going to be doing good not to lose double digits following this naming.

Posted by: chattyway | Aug 24, 2008 2:10:05 AM

Bwahahah Change you can believe in alright---------Change at every turn of the wind. Now, Obama is supporting the same old broken down malfunctioning Washington insiders.......Geez.

Posted by: chattyway | Aug 24, 2008 2:07:13 AM

Lol....Biden is going to be an easy target for the Republicans...the guy said obama wasn't ready to lead that McCain was basically.

Posted by: chattyway | Aug 24, 2008 2:05:01 AM

Biden's a liar and a buffoon and I just can't wait for all of his lies to be exposed in the coming weeks. I guess the Dems are hoping no one cares that he's a plaigarizing liar. Obama and Biden -- lovely pair, that.

Posted by: What A Phool | Aug 24, 2008 12:02:14 AM

The only person shares money with his himself and his corrupt puppet master handlers like Rezko. He raises taxes (and has voted to raise taxes on all making $32,000 or more a year) to pay for scams like building faulty dangerous public housing that his puppet handlers make millions/billions $$$$$ off of and then pay him under the table. Voting for Obama to raise someone's taxes thinking is going to help the poor is a scam. Obama is a scam. If you want to donate to charity, donate your own money to charity just ensure it isn't a scam like Obama supports.

Posted by: chattyway | Aug 23, 2008 11:46:59 PM

Oh, one last thing....Has Barack Obama told us exactly what this change is that he is going to bring to Washington? No foreign experience, very little national experience and totally out of touch with the American middle working class. Then he picks a guy who has been in the Senate for 30 years. Yes, sir that is real change. In truth he is nothing but hot air and trying to make the American people think he is another John F. Kennedy. My 19 year old son has as much experience to be President as Barack Obama does.

Posted by: Dennis Andrews | Aug 23, 2008 11:10:44 PM

I am still a Hillary Clinton supporter. I don't really care if Barack Obama had picked St. Peter for his running mate. This man ran the lowest of low primary campaigns. He overtly and subtley used gender bias to his own advantage and when it would really help him he would throw the race card at anyone who said anything negative against him. I liked Joe Biden but my opinion of him has gone down the drain the moment he said "yes" to being Barack Obama's running mate.

Posted by: Dennis Andrews | Aug 23, 2008 11:01:59 PM

Having two Lawyer/ Senators on the same ticket is really insane.

In most polls Senators rank just below loan sharks and used car salesmen and only slightly above lawyers.

If this pair gets in we are truly screwed.


Posted by: Robert P | Aug 23, 2008 8:27:00 PM

What a laugh, Obama with no experience picks a democrat from a congress with the historically lowest rating of any congress in history; a do nothing congress that passed NO major bills.
Obama can't tell the same story twice and cant speak without a teleprompter telling him what to say. He kisses up to a radical that tried to blow up the pentagon and congress, and blew up police stations and brags about it, has a minister that hates america and went to the biggest elitist university around. Plus he's never held a paying job and handed out sweetheart contracts to his rezco crooked buddy.
Some change all right, americans would have to be idiots to elect him.

Posted by: colonialgirl | Aug 23, 2008 7:45:59 PM

Very interesting, Peach. Biden cna say "Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black. I don't believe he could have won had he been white." Geraldine Ferraro leaves the Clinton campaign for saying . "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position." Yet Biden gets chosen as VP. Interesting.

Posted by: Tracy Lynn | Aug 23, 2008 5:56:35 PM

BIDEN:

"Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black. I don't believe he could have won had he been white. And the reason is, I think it was a cynical ploy by President Bush."

It's like being a racist is a resume enhancer in the Democratic party. Biden has made so many racist gaffes and look where he's ended up.

Posted by: Peach | Aug 23, 2008 5:23:19 PM

It is so easily forgotten that Biden supported McCain for the Dem Vp spot last time around. Biden voted for the action in Iraq. You Dems and Bush haters that support this decision surely are deluded.

Posted by: J | Aug 23, 2008 3:54:04 PM

EDWARDS your right. one of the great things about america is its filled with people who think differently and all cultures and colors.
WITH the freedom to say what we think or feel. Just because someone doesnt agree with you doesnt make you UN-AMERICAN it makes you A-AMERICAN.
PROOF- just look in this chat room right now most of us disagree....

Posted by: melissa
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Hey wait !!!! I agree with you on that !!!!! Hee, hee

Posted by: spacerook1 | Aug 23, 2008 3:50:36 PM

If Joe Biden has gone over to Obama, I'm on board too. Biden is smart, honest, and decent. I imagine he, like me, is disappointed by the way McCain has changed into just another smearing republican. I can support this ticket

Posted by: katharine | Aug 23, 2008 3:41:45 PM

You have got to be kidding!!!

All you people putting down the others parties and extolling the virtues of your own.

We should all be embarrassed that this is the best we have to offer the American people.

Both parties have put together abysmal tickets (regardless of who is McCain’s VP).

Obama/Biden is a socialist ticket and McCain/??Liberman?? is a democrat ticket. No representation for the conservatives.

Posted by: Old School GOP | Aug 23, 2008 3:25:59 PM

There is something desperately wrong with the USA. It has become a country of small minded lunatics. The types found amongst people working for their own down fall.

It is only in the USA rational people like Obama and Biden has question marks over them. The lunatics like McCain pass off as some patriotic bastard everyone should love. Certainly every country has their own bastards but they need to make sense but McCain takes the biscuit, for he's a class of his own in rank stupidity.

The USA need to resell itself to the world. That even the USA can even still look at McCain as the one to sell USA to the world is in itself a complete idiocy and out of touch with reality. Only a country that wants to accelerate it own down fall can think in that direction.

McCain has got absolutely nothing to offer other than some tried tired and irrational dead ideas.

Posted by: Broderick | Aug 23, 2008 2:46:17 PM

Ok, Ruthie, here's your break, but you better use it reading a paper or two. If you think Obama is the only one that's had his spit broken down, then you either live in a cave or are in Obamadenial. It's become a disease, ya know, just like BDS. Obamanuts really should try reality, it's much more refreshing. I can't wait for Biden to totally implode this Obama mania!

Posted by: Ann | Aug 23, 2008 2:26:00 PM

Oh give me a break, that's been the problem with Obama, the media breaking every spit of his down, throwing it on the tube and using it against him, his being afraid to say anything and everything, so I hope Biden tells them all where to shove it if they to muzzle him. Even the Obama campaign needs to leave him alone, they shouldn't worry or wonder if he will help or hurt otherwise they shouldn't have selected him, period. Biden is great, Obama needs him in this capacity, he is his own man and it should be just that way. Go Biden!! Obama/Biden '08!!!

Posted by: RuthieM | Aug 23, 2008 2:17:42 PM

Biden will not help Obama's performance in the polls. Face it, people have already dug in and made up their minds, and they have made up their minds that they will not support Barack Obama. They don't like him, they don't trust him, they don't have that "warm and fuzzy" feeling of familiarity, warmth, and a comfortable sense of identity with this man. McCain is a known quantity, and right or wrong, he is known as an independent person who is a maverick and has worked across the isle and gone against his own party. Obama, doesn't have any sense of identity, he can't and doesn't even try really, to connect to the masses. And guess what, you need the masses to win an election. Hillary's supporters, of which I am one, have dug in. They aren't going to support Obama no matter what. Now they might not vote for McCain, but in all liklihood, they will probably just not bother to vote at all. And that can really hurt the down ticket Dems. Republicans will support McCain simply because Obama is a worse propect. We shot ourselves in the foot. And we will get what we deserve because of it. John McCain.

Posted by: jdona | Aug 23, 2008 2:00:46 PM

Listen people this is not about Mad Cow Joe it is still about Change-boma, and it is still about the judgement of a President and so far it is very poor. You Libs are right there is nothing Republican can say about Mad Cow Joe but there are still a lot to say about Change-Boma. Can you see the changes so far? I have and clearly so.......(picking a congress member of the lowest aproval rating in history to become the VP).

Posted by: vegas | Aug 23, 2008 1:59:43 PM

Len: Are you saying that you do not take each and every legal write off on your Federal income taxes? Obviously you don't, because it would mean you are a hypocrite for saying you are honored to give the treasury your money.

I have had it with libs who claim how great high taxes on the rich are, but they TAKE EVERY LOOPHOLE AVAILABLE. Don't claim otherwise, moron.

Posted by: gM | Aug 23, 2008 1:51:01 PM

BHO's lies, misjudgments, boneheaded decisions and flip-flops: (Part 1)
• BHO has AUDACITY TO HOPE that Americans will not look at the character of the person to be president and he will be able to mislead them with his smoke and mirror tactics and speeches.
• BHO claims to have good JUDGEMENT, but contradicts himself by keeping relationships with anti-Americans, terror-mongers and racists for 20+ years
• BHO claims to be the MESSIAH of HOPE, but says ‘people cling to religion and cling to guns’ out of frustration. Is BHO equating Americans to ‘terrorists’ where the terrorists usually claim that they ‘cling’ to religion and guns out of frustration and economic woos?
• BHO claims to be a UNITER, but always tried to divide America on RACE and ECONOMIC INEQUALITIES
• BHO is trying to court the PRO-LIFE Americans by lying about his voting record, but also publically said that he would not PUNISH his daughters with babies.
• BHO claims to be INTELLIGENT and EXPERIENCED but proves that he is DUMB and NAÏVE by rolling out plan WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING the real situation by visiting the war zone and getting briefed by the Generals on ground who know the best.
• BHO talk about leveling fields as a non-politician. BHO entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. BHO back stabbed his friend and mentor Alice Palmer by nullifying Palmer’s nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw.
• BHO was DEFENDING Wright's anti-American, racist rants until his lack of credibility was exposed by Mr. Wright when he said "Obama had to say what he said as a politician", thus bringing BHO down to the ORDINARY politician level where he really belongs.
• BHO claims to be ‘TRUE’, but he is full of lies like - he never opposed hand guns, He never heard Mr. Wright making the incendiary quotes, He never said – he will not wear flag lapel pin, He is against NAFTA but had his adviser meet privately with the Canadian government to assure them he didn't really mean what he said about NAFTA and the list goes on and on
• BHO wants us to BELIEVES in CHANGE, but the kind of CHANGE he is really talking about is to go down to his knees to negotiate unconditionally to Iran’s Ahmadinejad, Hamas and other terrorist groups.
• BHO’s claims to be a STRONG speaker – but only when he is reading a teleprompter. Look at his goofs when there is no such aid available - "I have been to 57 states and 1 to go" or "veterans who lost there lives, some of which are in the audience” or "Arabic translators taken from Iraq and sent to Afghanistan" or “he'd like to meet with "President Maliki" when he travels to Iraq.
• BHO is TOUGH enough to throw his grand mother under the bus, but he neither has GUTS to repudiate his anti-American, racist pastor nor has GUTS to vote NO to stop Adult Porn Shops from opening up next to our children’s schools.
• BHO took 20 years to finally accept that his pastor is an anti-American. BHO is an opportunistic liar.
• BHO Claims to be a PATRIOT, but refuses to wear flag lapel pin and his wife Michelle says: For the first time in her adult life she is proud of this country and America is a mean country
• BHO claims to be the better Commander-in-Chief, but how can he get that position if he can not even obtain the Top Security Clearance?
• BHO says WORDs MATTER, but is always short of words and steals them from others and constantly demands the people whom he insults to give him the benefit of the doubt for his misspeaks.
• He says he is Washington Outsider, but admitted in the debate that his campaign played negative tactics against Clinton in PA. BHO has more Washington Insiders endorsing him thus OWEs to them something that will MAKE HIM BIGGEST WASHINGTON INSIDER.

Posted by: CJ | Aug 23, 2008 1:46:19 PM

Thanks "CJ". Hear! Hear! to you as well. This was a desperation pick, plain and simple.

Posted by: PhillyPaul | Aug 23, 2008 1:34:51 PM

Yeah, Joe Biden of foreign policy experience that wanted to give $200 million to those Arab Iranians after 9-11. LMAO! Iranians are Persians and it would be just like someone with soooo much foreign policy knowledge to want to pacify a terrorist nation with money and not military strength.

He is going to appear like a giant bobble head doll standing next to THE ONE. If this is to demonstrate Hope and Change what a laugh! Non compos mentis is my mantra on THE ONE'S choice.

I would like the thank the DNC for providing us with the most laughter we have had in this nation in such a long time. Is this a SNL skit or is this reality? I cannot tell the difference! LMAO AGAIN!

Posted by: freeus | Aug 23, 2008 1:34:46 PM

As you know any professional that seeks to work on any DOD/Government contract/position that may provide access to 'classified' or 'national security related information' requires a 'security clearance' where they scrutinize your background for current and past associations/friends/relatives, where they live and their current and past associations too. Getting 'Top security clearance' is even harder. Knowing Obama's radical views and terrorist/anti-American friendships, do you think Obama will get 'security clearance'? I do not think so. In that case how can he run for President of USA and Commander-In-Chief?
This is an important issue and may answer many of Obama supporters who take an issue with giving importance to the 'character' and 'judgment'.

Posted by: CJ | Aug 23, 2008 1:26:20 PM

Go get 'em, Joe!!!

Posted by: Colorado Dem | Aug 23, 2008 1:26:17 PM

Obama what did you say about old politics? Yeah I remmember clearly on that you said "all they're doing is changing seats in the white house". Well MAD COW Joe is changing his seat from the lowest aproval rating congress position in history into the seat of the most changing position campaign in history.

Posted by: vegas | Aug 23, 2008 1:18:55 PM

BHO has a young brother liveing with 1 dollar a month in a shack not worthy of a dog. While he is rich. I could not vote for someone who does not love his own flesh and blood. How could he care for us? I am a democrat for McCain.

Posted by: Charles | Aug 23, 2008 1:02:36 PM

Desperation pick. Highlights Obama's weaknesses and compliments Obama's arrogance.

Posted by: jay | Aug 23, 2008 12:57:05 PM

Edward | Aug 23, 2008 11:05:09 AM

Wrong. If Obama had picked Evan Bayh, we would have been hard-pressed to sling mud. That's why we were hoping he wouldn't pick him, and he didn't disappoint. Biden. HaHaHaHa.

dds101 | Aug 23, 2008 11:44:04 AM

Government cannot help poor people. FDR tried it with The New Deal and LBJ tried it with The Great Society. You know what has helped poor people? Capitalism. Poor people in America have a better standard of living than most people in the world. In fact, I would venture to guess that America's poor are among the top ten wealthiest people worldwide.

The same is true for peace. The UN was created to prevent wars. Have they? No! However, when countries intertwine themselves economically, they are a lot less likely to go to war. Again, capitalism to the rescue.

Therefore, if peace and prosperity are your top goals, you need to vote for the party that promotes capitalism. Unfortunately, that hasn't been the case with the Democrats since JFK.

Posted by: Kafir | Aug 23, 2008 12:56:04 PM

Here are some of BHO's lies, misjudgments and boneheaded decisions and flip-flops.
• BHO has AUDACITY TO HOPE that Americans will not look at the character of the person to be president and he will be able to mislead them with his smoke and mirror tactics and speeches.
• BHO claims to have good JUDGEMENT, but contradicts himself by keeping relationships with anti-Americans, terror-mongers and racists for 20+ years
• BHO claims to be the MESSIAH of HOPE, but says ‘people cling to religion and cling to guns’ out of frustration. Is BHO equating Americans to ‘terrorists’ where the terrorists usually claim that they ‘cling’ to religion and guns out of frustration and economic woos?
• BHO claims to be a UNITER, but always tried to divide America on RACE and ECONOMIC INEQUALITIES
• BHO Says he is PRO-LIFE, but also said that he would not PUNISH his daughters with babies.
• BHO claims to be INTELLIGENT and EXPERIENCED but proves that he is DUMB and NAÏVE by rolling out plan WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING the real situation by visiting the war zone and getting briefed by the Generals on ground who know the best.
• BHO talk about leveling fields as a non-politician. BHO entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. BHO back stabbed his friend and mentor Alice Palmer by nullifying Palmer’s nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw.

Posted by: CJ | Aug 23, 2008 12:50:24 PM

I thought Obama was all about change!

Oh well!

Posted by: Jo | Aug 23, 2008 12:49:46 PM

BHO is going to lose big and 50% fault will be his own (radical views and terrosit connections) and 50% will be of DNC. All the world knows that DNC bent its rules to make sure they nominate an 'unqualified' MAN over a 'well qualified' WOMAN.

Posted by: CJ | Aug 23, 2008 12:45:37 PM

I find Biden's lack or regard to political correctness so very refreshing. And in respect to his mouthing off, to paraphrase an old Bushism: Bring it on!

Posted by: kat | Aug 23, 2008 12:43:08 PM

If John McCain picks Mitt Romney, will he be filling the boots of those big conservative shoes that he stolen.

Mitt Romney says the best person with the message to lead the nation is Barack Obama not John McCain.


According to Romney McCain is not a conservative and doesn't represent the American people's interests.

Posted by: Clarence | Aug 23, 2008 12:42:09 PM

Barack Obama has made all the right judgement calls: Iraq..set a timetable, now a reality; Afghanistan...add more troops and go after BinLaden in Pakistan, becoming a reality; Georgia...involve NATO and European heads of state, now working. Conversely, McCain has blustered, bumbled and falsely claimed credit.
Now we have Obama-Biden; Joe Biden is broadly acknowledged to be, as Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, the most knowledgeable Senator in Washington on foreign leaders and foreign policy, plus he is polite, fair minded and is a man of integrity.
America finally will get to rejoin the world community. Is there a better option in November?

Posted by: TomV | Aug 23, 2008 12:35:15 PM

You're going to see a lot of Joe Biden saying that the country would be better off with John McCain than with Barack Obama, and that Obama is not ready to be President.

This is just too good.

Posted by: drjohn | Aug 23, 2008 12:33:40 PM

Tim,
I agree with you. BHO is a compulsive liar. He had once said that "he would not punish his daughters with babies". To me that says all about his radical views.

Posted by: CJ | Aug 23, 2008 12:33:12 PM

The argument of Republican or Democrat seems to get washed up with so many opinions...The truth be told we are at "war" in this nation...We have lost a great deal and dignity is so far left that we can not sqqueeze any more turnips...What we must do is stop toying with the elite that make our country swim...There is more to upholding a "People" to the "bar" and to stand for a government that provides the necessities to life and its conquest...Where are the Rich, well-educated Peopple of this nation who compromise the very existance of Hope and fortitude...I am not of the educated elite for I don't carry the final white-paper of education to which is above reproach in this nation...To much pondering over who and what..and then, to innocent are not so innocent...the confused are the breakers of the elite...the elite are the grounders of the poor and lost...Who is the One to Lead this Nation...and to whom do we lead this nation for...! The question for those who are intelligent enough to think and then, derive a final decision to make it happen...What is propaganda, and what is truth! Apachecheynne

Posted by: Jalica | Aug 23, 2008 12:32:46 PM

Len, good analytical posts, nice flow in style of writing.

Posted by: hype biters | Aug 23, 2008 12:30:29 PM

PhillyPaul: Hear Hear. I agree with you 100%

Posted by: CJ | Aug 23, 2008 12:30:22 PM

John McCain made an excellent choice, picking a Democrat who fully supports him and has been very critical of Obama's lack of foreign policy experience, empty mantra of change, and so forth.

McCain/Biden 08!

Posted by: JA | Aug 23, 2008 12:28:05 PM

McCainnot: You yourself state that we DO NOT want to make the mistake twice. Americans elected one bone headed president once (at least Bush had some executive experience) and now we can not elect another bone headed person who does not even have any experience and judgement.

Posted by: CJ | Aug 23, 2008 12:27:59 PM

So, Barack "followers" what do you say to your "One" basically admitting that he has zero foreign policy experience credentiala need to be President? What do you say to his false promise of "CHANGE"? The more important question is, "Do you think at all?". This pick is a shame to me because I LOVE Joe Biden. Always have. It makes me cringe now to see him paired with such an empty suit politician. It is beneath Joe to be beneath Barack. But, this is politics; not much actually makes sense. This Democrat is still voting McCain. He is, after all, better friends with Joe Biden.

Posted by: PhillyPaul | Aug 23, 2008 12:24:59 PM

Obama had three major blunders last week that the media failed to report. (1) His campaign had to admit he lied about why he voted against the born alive bill (2) Obama stated that the infrastructure of China was far "superior" to the US. (3) Obama compared Russia's invasion of Georgia to the US invasion of Iraq.

Posted by: tim | Aug 23, 2008 12:22:23 PM

No question that Biden is to Obama what Cheney is to Bush. It appears that to this loyal and honest democrat that the Democrats have lost there heads AGAIN with Obama. First the feeding frenzy of hatred towards Bush and now the feeding frenzy of love towars Obama. Ten minutes of HONEST research on the internet about Obama and any honest person can see that the American public will never elect this empty suit.

Posted by: domingo | Aug 23, 2008 12:22:12 PM

Unshrub, I had the same thought and agree with you, but the entire mentality of a certain portion of "national security Americans" operates on the premise that you are guilty until proven innocent. You know, you must have something to hide if you mind our looking at your personal records and conversations, we wouldn't have arrested and have the "domestic terrorist" held in our detainee prison if he weren't guilty, etc etc just like the way the Soviet Union worked, or the Third Reich. They sacrifice individualism and personal liberty for the :safety" of the nation. My butt, they are dupes who have fallen for the scare rhetoric of those who want all the power over the individual. And it relates to that whole, "prove you are a patriot" mentality.

Posted by: Edward | Aug 23, 2008 12:17:25 PM

For those of you who want us to prove that Obama is a patriot, I have this to say, Prove that McCain wasn't brain washed by the commies when he was held captive. Or this, prove that George Bush didn't kill someone. You can't. My point is this: It's impossible to prove someone didn't do something, but that is why someone must be proven guilty instead of them proving they are innocent.

Posted by: The Unshrub | Aug 23, 2008 12:12:49 PM

High Strangeness Obama and McCain political ads.

Watching the random political adds showing up it first appears to be an Obama or McCain ad but then a few strange twists leaves one wondering did the Obama campaign do an ad for McCain and the McCain campaign do an ad for Obama? Or is it some others?

Are some creating the appearance of being from a certain source only to disparage in subtle ways?

Posted by: Richard Thomas | Aug 23, 2008 12:11:41 PM

'obama - biden: 2 guys, 2 houses.'

good one.

of course, it might not be a good idea for the obama campaign to bring up the subject of houses when obama bought his own house in a shady deal with the financial assistance and personal favors of a convicted felon and noted chicago political sleazebag who currently is under indictment on still more corruption charges.

must not have been the tony rezko that obama thought he knew. or perhaps that decision to buy was above his pay grade.

Posted by: mm | Aug 23, 2008 12:10:42 PM

What's the deal with Obama supporters running against ex-Presidents and soon to be ex-Presidents?

1. Keep punching Bill Clinton and telling Hillary to get a divorce or else. Wow. What a nice strategy. Such family values.

2. Keep insulting a war hero and the biggest most reliable voting bloc, senior citizens. That oughta put Obama over the top. Oh, tell them about your plans to take apart the military and convert them to civil engineers while you're at it. That's a defense we can believe in.

3. Keep telling the Boomers the Millenials are taking over. The Boomers are your bosses except in the Valueless Valley outside San Francisco. There, they are your owners. But hey, we like nasty kids. They remind us of ... Us.

What a disciplined campaign you are running. It has all the snap of the Brown Shirts and all the smell of Altamont. Real geniuses.

Posted by: len | Aug 23, 2008 12:10:27 PM

Hey, I'm not voting for McCain, because my party has let us down. Bush, our leader has given the Dems the Congress. We had it all Delay, Cheney, Cunningham all Crooks and they took us down. More so Bush with Gonzales, Rumsfeld all villians with Power to push our Republican agenda and it has failed. From the Lies to get us in Iraq to the lies of Libby and Bush. I'm sick of our party and I know McCain would try to clean up our Right Wing, but serious..we can't afford to take a chance with McCain. It will only get worse. Go for the Change and Chance. After all we took a chance with Bush and we are still swallowing his garbage. Right Wing, moving over to Obama. Sorry Old man..

Posted by: GOP for Obama | Aug 23, 2008 12:09:23 PM

EDWARDS your right. one of the great things about america is its filled with people who think differently and all cultures and colors.
WITH the freedom to say what we think or feel. Just because someone doesnt agree with you doesnt make you UN-AMERICAN it makes you A-AMERICAN.
PROOF- just look in this chat room right now most of us disagree....

Posted by: melissa | Aug 23, 2008 12:08:48 PM

The Slow Thinker Obama and Washington Wallpaper Biden!

So much for change? When will the left realize that Clinton is a better candidate for them. Obama screwed them over when the Senior Dems Mentor Program failed to get their own men Dole and Biden. Obama was the backup, included to take the African-American vote. All was part of the key plan: Get the woman out! Dems leadership screwed themselves and us, underestimating bigtime the Clinton appeal, thinking the African-American vote was enought.

Throw out the boys club! Vote Clinton!

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | Aug 23, 2008 12:08:23 PM

The republicans spend all of August on lies, lies and more lies. It seems like the American public is too stupid to understand this and the Democrats don’t have the nerves to fight. You can not win in a bar fight without kicking someone in the down and dirty and this is a down and dirty bar fight, and so far, Obama does not want to kick or hit anyone. I want to see Obama hit McCain where it hurts. He must attack him and the republicans where it hurts them. Show American how dirty republicans really are. We need to see some blood. I am tired of loosing the white house to a bunch of crooks because democrats act like a bunch of sissies. I am mad and I am not going to take it anymore!

Posted by: The Unshrub | Aug 23, 2008 12:07:50 PM

Biden voted for the war.

That is a problem if Obama picked Biden for his foreign policy "expertise."

Posted by: drjohn | Aug 23, 2008 12:05:16 PM

CJ, your description of security clearance sounds like how the Soviet Union screened every citizen and made them fear being labeled a "threat" to the state. The America I live in does not do that to its citizens, it does not have the right to search every contact I ever had, accuse me of radicalism for checking out some library book etc.

Posted by: Edward | Aug 23, 2008 12:04:29 PM

Do in your opinion, anybody who is self-claimed patriotic does not need to be vetted for his/her associations, friends, mentors. Wow. Wake up man. The choice is very clear - War Hero McCain or the compulsive liar, radical, elitist Obama.

Posted by: CJ | Aug 23, 2008 12:04:14 PM

All you Obama haters. JUST GIVE UP!!!

The man is the nominee and I can bet that he will be the next president of the United States unless and I mean unless unintelligent American voters constitute majority of the electorate.

I cant just see how we will vote for another 4 years of the GOP who have for too long deceived us using issues of values as well as lies to hold on to power while they destroy our economy and plunge us into a dumb war

Just GIVE UP YOUR HATE!

Posted by: Rolland | Aug 23, 2008 12:03:19 PM

CJ, give us your take on Bush/Cheney..Please..then tell us how different or alike McCan is to Bush. Ahhhh, didn't McCannot lose to Bush. How soon you forget, but your still wearing Bushes shoes..any Vote for McCannot is a Vote the Same. Do you really want a 72 yr old who will be in the White house until he is 76, making decisions, when he can't remember what he as in Real Estate. The handwritting is on the Wall, the same was for Bush and you are still in the House at Crawford. The Worst President ever and McCain lost to him 8 yrs ago. So, tell me is McCain going to be Better than what you put in the White House 8 yrs ago?

Posted by: McCainnot | Aug 23, 2008 12:02:02 PM

Edward: Again you are showing your ignorance. Security Clearance is not to prove that you are terrorist. It is to prove that you do not have any past associations with radicals, terrorist and you can be trusted with the 'classified' information.

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