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More on the Cone of Not-So-Silence
August 18, 2008 10:01 AM
Regarding the revelation that Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was not in a "cone of silence" after all while Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, answered questions from Pastor Rick Warren, a couple points….
1) The McCain campaign's vitriol against NBC's Andrea Mitchell is odder still when you consider that the McCain campaign's blogger Michael Goldfarb was quoting her very same reporting approvingly as evidence that the Obama campaign was a bunch of whiners.
2) The McCain campaign's responses so far are entirely focused on McCain's geography and whether or not he himself could hear and see Obama being questioned.
To wit: McCain adviser Charlie Black told CNN, "We were in motorcade until 5:30 p.m. ET; then a holding room in another building with no TV."
Nothing that I've seen so far from the McCain campaign touches on whether or not any aides with McCain were getting reports on their Blackberries or cell phones on the questions Obama was getting and then sharing them with McCain.
- jpt
UPDATE: ABC News' Ron Claiborne, traveling with the McCain campaign, reports that McCain senior adviser Charlie Black would not say whether people around McCain while he was en route to Rick Warren's forum had access to blackberries and cell phones from which they could have tipped off Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., about the questions.
"There's no reason we would do that," was all Black would say, though quite obviously there is a reason.
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Of course McCain cheated. He is after all a republican. Just like bush was wired for the debates so he could have someone else answer the questions for him. But that won't sway the less intelligent voters and the republicans know this.
Posted by: con me not | Aug 18, 2008 5:19:10 PM
The McCain campaign overly aggressive reaction to even the suggestion that there might have been impropriety in the "Cone of Silence" situation has only fueled speculation further. My guess is they cheated. They are Republicans, after all. Why should they disappoint us now?
Posted by: DaveM | Aug 18, 2008 5:13:59 PM
"Also, he was shamelessly pandering with that POW story ad nauseum"
If Obama ever actually did something of note in his life he should stop keeping it a secret. What has he actually accomplished? Well he did publish two books, one on the topic of himself and the other on the topic of himself.
Posted by: Amfony | Aug 18, 2008 5:10:44 PM
Does the lack of Rick Warren's previously-announced 'cone of silence' invalidate the Saddleback process? I think it does. Whether or not McCain cheated or unknowingly had answers fed to him by aides with Blackberries, some people will always think so. (Personally, I doubt it.)
I don't think this is about whether McCain lied or whether Obama's supporters have sour grapes because Obama didn't do as well (I thought they both did fine). I think it's about how Rev. Warren should not have announced there was a so-called 'cone of silence' when there wasn't. If McCain wasn't in the house, Warren should either have announced that or kept his mouth shut about the 'cone of silence.' Remember the Warren Commission and a lot of other things like that? On a much smaller scale, some people will always think the Saddleback interview was a shady deal.
Posted by: JAB | Aug 18, 2008 5:09:51 PM
Yeah, their denials are hilarious. The point is he could have been coached, he was not in a "cone of silence" as everyone was led to believe.
And I disagree completely with shirrin who claims McCain is a "known entity". He is completely unknown. Most Americans think he's a maverick because that is the image he has tried to hoist on us. But he is nothing of the sort. The prospect of a McCain presidency is frightening, and it's high time the media (and the democrats since the media probably won't do it) throw back the curtain and start applying the same scrutiny to McCain as they have been to Obama.
Posted by: Angela | Aug 18, 2008 5:02:34 PM
John McCain was not in a cone of silence. John McCain and Rick Warren led everyone watching to believe that McCain was shrouded away in silence.
A man of honor, a man of honesty, a man with scruples would have announced to everyone right at the start that he really wasn't in the "cone". Instead he chose to allow everyone to believe a lie. And how will that work as President?
A man of honor, a man of honesty, a man with scruples would not have told a false story about the cross in the dirt, which was actually about a Russian prisoner in the Soviet gulags, Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Does McCain have no dignity? No shame? To tell such a story in a church of God no less?
Posted by: Kali | Aug 18, 2008 4:49:08 PM
The point the media and everyone else on Obama's side is not acknowledging is that Saturday night's debate for the most part was less about McCain and more about Obama. McCain is a known entity. Obama is still an enigma and many folks who are still confused and looking to understand all the fervor and fuss around his persona turn to the debates for answers, and that's where Obama fell so short of expectations. It was frankly an embarrassing performance and Mr. Obama looked more like running for class president than commander-in-chief of the most powerful nation on earth. It is in that context that McCain's performance especially in that side-by-side comparison made the realities of this election cycle so stark and undeniable.
One can appreciate the fact that many people look at Obama's candidacy as an history-making event, but in the end majority of Americans will have to put the future of their country before symbolic gestures to suit the political ambitions of any one person.
Posted by: shirin | Aug 18, 2008 4:42:36 PM
Right - McCain got access to all the questions just before hand, and drafted perfect response to all of them in the few minutes Obama was being interviewed.
Then he delivered those great answers perfectly from memory a few minutes later.
Nice try.
Face it - Obama got his clock cleaned.
Posted by: Tom C | Aug 18, 2008 4:40:53 PM
In numerous articles and, most famously, in his own writings, Obama has cited Rev. Wright as his "mentor" and all-around guru. Indeed, "Audacity of Hope" is based on a sermon Obama heard Wright give. Those three words -"Audacity of Hope" - the mantra and basis of this charlatan's entire sham of a campaign - are actually the good rev's own words.
Was anyone else chuckling at Obama's pathetic answer to Warren's question about whose counsel he values?
Posted by: JoefromMI | Aug 18, 2008 4:38:28 PM
What's the latest "truth" about McCain stealing his "cross in the sand" story from that dead Russian story about the Gulag??
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | Aug 18, 2008 4:31:27 PM
Obama is a thinker, not a reactionary like McCain. I would rather have a thinker, one that is deliberate in thought and slow to speak than a reactionary that will pull the trigger at the drop of a hat. You guys don't know what McCain is capable of. I would be very leary of someone who has spent a life time dwelling on military life. Look at the last military president we had Dwight D. Eisenhower. Led us into Viet Nam...need I say more.
Posted by: William | Aug 18, 2008 4:29:41 PM
More and more clear McCain cheated, and the problem is not what he answered or the unfair advantage, the worse is his moral fiber of cheater.
Posted by: Austin | Aug 18, 2008 4:17:56 PM
There is no way in hell McCain was in a cone of silence at that forum because he wa sanswering the questions before they were even asked. Also, he was shamelessly pandering with that POW story ad nauseum
Posted by: Caroline | Aug 18, 2008 4:09:28 PM
Why is it everytime I try to post how it is weird that in a Faith Forum, Obama could't bring up Rev. Wright, the one "who led him to Christ"? I'm just thinking. I also think Obama had the highest respect for him before March, and he would have been on his list of 3 wise people. Why is this so wrong to post.....we are talking about a FAITH FORUM, right?
Posted by: Debra | Aug 18, 2008 3:56:20 PM
Obama's puppy ate his homework?
Bottom line: Obama lost, folks. Get over it.
Posted by: meg | Aug 18, 2008 3:50:38 PM
This response from the McCain campaign is really alot more interesting (and telling):
"The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous."
Forget that the source of these insinuations was not the Obama campaign for a second, and look at the rest of it for a second.
Anyone else here think that he's gone just a wee bit overboard pushing his pow status?
Posted by: Mike | Aug 18, 2008 3:47:20 PM
Obama might be good in front of a teleprompter, but he can't think on his feet otherwise.
He's an empty suit, this forum proved.
He has no legacy, he has no experience.
Posted by: meg | Aug 18, 2008 3:39:17 PM
I believe the correct term is 'spermatazoan-americans' Flash. Gotta be politically correct here.
Posted by: Mike | Aug 18, 2008 3:33:40 PM
Bam, you wrote: "Except that McCain and Pastor Rick Warren had not yet discussed the Supreme Court justices."
After answering a question on abortion and the definition of marriage THAT is when Sen. McCain asked, "Are we going to get back to the importance of Supreme Court Justices?" Sen. McCain also said, "When we speak of the issue of the rights of the unborn we need to talk about judges, but anyway go ahead."
BEFORE the forum both Sen. McCain and Sen. Obama were given the topics from which Pastor Warren would be asking them. Apparently one of the topics mentioned was the importance of the Supreme Court Justices. So Sen. McCain wanted be sure that there would be a discussion of judges. Otherwise he would have given his thoughts on the Supreme Court during the questions regarding abortion and definition of marriage.
Posted by: James Danley | Aug 18, 2008 3:32:07 PM
Scared and angry? No.
Know a liar when I see one? Yes.
Obama '08
Posted by: James Andre | Aug 18, 2008 3:27:47 PM
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