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Really something to see, the hatred and lying, from both sides.
No wonder WE are in the situation we are in.

hfp said: Obama sicks JUSTICE DEPARTMENT on legal makers of legitimate truthful campaign ad.

Sidekick McCain "don't know nothing 'bout the economy" and has new ideas or plans to stimulate it. So he tries to distract with his Karl Rove strategies. BTW freedom of speech was sent packing by the current administration. No third term and no McCain.

Obama sicks JUSTICE DEPARTMENT on legal makers of legitimate truthful campaign ad. This is abuse of his position as a Senator and presidential candidate. This is the tactics of Stalin and China, right here in the good 'ol USA.
There was nothing factually incorrect with the ad, so his campaign is using intimidation tactics. Goodbye Free Speech, Goodbye Freedom if he's elected!

It also worth noting that the difference between Obama and McCain when it comes to public appearances is that Obama can DRAW crowds of thousands, while McCain merely inserts himself into any place where more than a few people have loitered.

The lame complaints of the anti-Obama crowd smack of candidate envy.

History will laugh at those of you who actually try to discredit Obama by claiming that he is the anti-christ. I laugh every time someone actually argues this point. The fact that these people are foolishly and selectively mixing scripture from Revelations and Nostradamus prophecies makes me laugh every time. The very argument goes against the tenets of Christianity.

For those that take issue to the columns, do a little searching and you'll find that almost every presidential candidate, senator or congressman has had their picture made or been filmed in front of, you guessed it, greco-roman columns. Possibly because they are pert of the architecture in D.C.

Come back to the discussion when you can argue a point that the GOP or Fox hasn't spoon fed to you.

Swirl,

Isn't your "man of the people" the one who measures inflation by what the price of arugula is and states he doesn't think high gas prices are a problem?

How about you rely on yourself, not government?

They have to try and poke fun at his ability to attract 80K people because what else do they have? McCain would be lucky to draw 5000 or less. They would have to pay people to fill the bleachers at a local HS for him.

Obama - I hope you are elected so I can quit my job and live off the government. I don't like getting up in the morning, but until now I had to so that I could eat and have healthcare. If you are elected, I will no longer have those problems - so I'm pulling for you.

John McShame & the Republican's political gospel: public office is private graft.

Google it!!

Obama/Biden 08

"listen, im done with the war subject... lol im so sick of talking about what bush's intentions were. frankly, at this point i dont care."

You fear government takeover of health care yet don't care about government lying its way into war that has left thousands of American men and women dead.

Thanks Republicans for putting yourselves on display for all to see.

If the Democrats honestly believe that the edifice they have raised in Mile High Stadium is the best way to convey a message to the people tuning in tonight, they don't or won't understand why millions of Americans are not supporting him. Clue: it has nothing to do with "funny names" or exotic background.

All this making fun of Obama for having his speech at a big venue is hilarious.

Why wouldn't we want a president who people actually want to come out and listen to instead of someone they won't even to bother to watch on TV during prime time?

It's a TEMPLE OF DOOM, is what it is.

This is what happens when a campaign gets into BUBBLE mode, and overeager advisors sell stupid ideas to an insulated, INSECURE, and not-too-savvy, candidate.

This temple idea was STUPID.

Why is Obama continually pandering to the "Nose in Air" Whole Foods and Starbucks wing of the Democratic Party? Does he feel so sure of the AA vote that he thinks he can throw the poor white blue collar contingent under the bus with Grandma and Rev. Wright?

Someone should teach the man that there is elegance in simple settings. There's DIGNITY, too, when you don't need silly visuals to prop up a real message--if you have one.

Fake, plywood columns straight out of the Christopher Lowell school of decorating aren't going to impress "regular" or "real" people. The latte and arugula wings of the party may be loving it, but Joe Sixpack thinks the candidate has gone overboard, and is INAUTHENTIC.

And he HAS. And he IS.

Hey Dave...It's not a sin to be rich, but I won't vote for someone who is out of touch with those of us who aren't.

Frankie, most people don't have any problem with his skin color or whatever his race is. One of our most cherished leaders stated "I dream of a day when a man is judged not by the color of his skin but by the strength of his character."

By far and away, most people who object to BHO is due to his lack of experience, his poor judgement in not backing the surge, his stubbornness in not admitting it has been successful, his unwillingness to meet the press and answer questions without a teleprompter telling him what to say, and his policies that he would like to implement should he become president.

The color of his skin is not a material concern except for those who want to see him become the first black president only because he is black.

If Biden has been a carreer politician in the Senate over the last 30 years and he he didn't marry a woman with a lot of money, how could a person end up with a sprawling compound in Deleware on a government salary?

I am a Singaporean and I am following the United States Election Campaign everyday. I think history is going to be made this time and Barrack Obama will be the next president of U.S.A. One thing puzzles me - why do so many people have a problem with the color of his skin? I thought his mother is a white women, an American? So, logically, he actually represents both the white and the blacks in America. You should be happy....

One thing the Dems do well is throw a great party. They stay in the most expensive rooms at the Ritz, eat the most expensive food, have the biggest screen monitors in the world, fly in on their jets, give record amounts of money to their cause and spend their time saying how terrible the country is and how poor the people are.

Meanwhile their leader made over $4M last year and the best descriptions of the houses of their leaders are not houses or condos but sprawling compounds.

OK Let's talk substance. The GDP is actually up over 3% for the second quarter. Where's the recession? Ooh, I saw a homeless man today. Ooh, I heard someone saying we MIGHT lose our health insurance. Ooh, I had a bad time with cancer treatment. The census reported yesterday the number of unemployed people DROPPED by over a million people OVER THE LAST YEAR!

I believe we can agree we do have economic problems caused by high gas prices and the conversion of corn to ethanol is driving up food costs. JM's plan, increase oil production, invest in alternatives for the future, develop nuclear and clean coal production to lower the price of gas, improve our trade balance and provide jobs here in the US. JM is also calling for the reduction/elimination of ethanol subsidies.

BHO calls for inflating tires, buying cars that don't exist and can't with today's technology, continuing with high gas prices and keeping the farm subsidies that are hurting us.

The Dem response to our economic issues? "What if the hurricane turns into a cat 5 and hits New Orleans? Wouldn't that be great!"

I think if anyone has an oversize ego it's McCain. And he has a terrible temper to match. It is interesting speculation to wonder where he would be today if he had just been a veteran and not a POW also. I don't buy his vast foreign policy experience -- if that was the criteria for election than it would have been Bill Richardson in a landslide who had both official diplomatic posts and key unofficial negotiations that resulted in hostage releases. I also seem to recall that Greece is where the whole idea of Democracy started, although it was limited to a free population in City states where slavery was widespread. I would also agree that many of our government buildings and monuments (Jefferson and Lincoln) use this style of architecture as well and it echoes the 1960 JFK appearance at the LA Colosseum which also has classical architecture. Once again the Republicans who have nothing to offer but fear and smear are making something out of nothing on the other side.

With all the problems facing our country, the McCain camp focuses on the Roman/Greek architecture of the set? McCain is still fighting the VietNam conflict and suffers from an Oedipal complex as does Bush, but with this he's showing senility.

Like the mix of responses here. Leadership requires qualities, some of which can't be learned--the ability to inspire, the ability to bring the best out of one's rivals and find that useful; the ability to stay calm; the ability to listen to those with whom one is in disagreement. The Mc Cain camp is clearly envious of Senator Obama's ability to inspire large numbers, to bring those numbers into the electorate. They want disaffection; they want disengagement; they want the masses of Americans who have been given the shaft by Republican policies of a sawbuck of a taxbreak for most and Fort Knox for the wealthy, corporate welfare, and bomb, bomb, bomb to keep their nose out of politics. The look down their noses at investing in the health of their fellow citizens; global warming is a hoax; the war in Iraq was something related to 9/11. They think George Bush's policies were fundamentally a success.

Good luck with that. Barack Obama is more ready to lead Americans on day one than John McCain with all his so called experience ever will

Anybody read the new book, The case against Obama"?

Good reading! Also, how about those Ayers commercials???

Obama is just your usual, every day Greek god.

I have heard that after his speech, Obama will lift himself to the heavens with the other gods.

If ego alone could do it, Obama would be in orbit.

The columns at the RNC in 2004 are quite different. They were video projections, not a solid "Spartacus" set. The tangibility of the Obamalumns (joke, joke!) make them seem more...artificial?

Also, Bush was already president, so the White House motif may have been more appropriate? Maybe not.

In any event, they don't look as cheesy...sorry folks, the Obamalumns are cheesy.

kat:

!!! that would be even worse if he were to presume that his speech would have the same power and significance as King's BEFORE he gave it! Wouldn't it?

Probably the best explanation is that the columns are a facsimile of the Lincoln Memorial where King gave his "I Have a Dream" speech, which will tie into Obama's. The Republicans and some pundits will have crow to eat if that's the case.

Bush had greek columns at his 2004 acceptance speech. McCain has a head shot photo of himself in front of columns. Lots of columns in Washington. This is a stupid story.

Why don't the Republicans talk about how they'll turn this economy around, save the middle class, restore our international credibility, get us off of oil, provide equal pay for equal work, bring our troops home, finish the fight in Afghanistan...

Fear and smear will not keep people in their homes, create jobs, increase wages, lower gas prices. What do they really have to offer?

Senator Obama's need for attention, admiration and elaborate speaking platforms make me wonder if he has a mental or personality disorder. Why can't he just get up and make a speech like a statesman would do. He is not a rock star but certainly acts like a stupid clown in the center ring of a circus. It shows his inmaturity and lack of judgment.

You're right, John McCain doesn't need a stage set like The Temple of Obama, and he doesn't need a sea of enthralled Germans. He'll win with his American townhalls and his visits to groceries stores. You'll see.

The Greek columned stage, I would think, goes with a theme and speaking agenda. So in that context, it's not as ostentatious as it may seem.

If Senator Obama believes that 100% health care costs, education through college is a absolute right, how soon will it be before all families should live in a above average home paid by tax money. Those who think this should read our Constitution and Bill of Rights and educate themselves. The founders of our country believed in personnal responsibility.

Why all of the grandstanding and BS? If Obama is the one who is going to turn this country around and save us from the mess it is in, then why can't he act like an adult? It should be the highest honor in the world to be POTUS, and yet Obama is running it like a Vegas floor show. Why does he need to rise up out of the floor like some teenage pop star? Show some dignity, be introduced and then for once, come out with some decorum and tell us what you intend to do for this country instead of all the CHANGE and HOPE and all of the other catch words he uses to keep from actually detailing a plan. All this crap does is give the Repubs something to make fun of for the next two months, and the bad thing about it is, they are right. This entrance and stage props are ridiculous.

Senator Obama seems to have the opinion that Big Brother should take care of all those foolish people who are so irresponsible. By this, I mean those who drop out of school, using drugs, doing crimes, having babies at 16, getting HIV from stupid behavior, etc. The number l thing people need to be educated on is BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN LIFE AND THOSE IN YOUR FAMILIES. Obama's socialist policies deny making people responsible.
A young healthy person should not be given a free place to live, food for the table, free health care, etc. Too many of them blame everyone except their own selfishness and lazyness for their problems. That is why so many people want Obama and his socialist programs--so they do not need to be responsible. The Trinity Church also blamed those rich white people for Black folks failures. Some bloggers are looking forward to getting part of the free trillions for slave reparation that Obama proposes.

Yes, the GOP doesn't have Bruce Springsteen and Bon Jovi playing the convention. Conservatives like John McCain prefer to balance the budget and keep government small and efficient rather than confusing entertainment, showmanship, and infatuation with the executive branch of the United States. But, if you have no experience or real accomplishments, I suppose fireworks, Greek temples, concerts, and rising up out of the floor are a satisfactory distraction.

Why doesn't someone pull a screen grab or post video of W accepting the 2004 nomination in front of a very similar set...These republicans are a bunch of whining babies....its ok for them to do something like this, but not Obama. What a joke.

FYI-------Watchdog groups insist Farber's presence is a contradiction of Obama's stated position.

"We will not take another dime from Washington lobbyists," Obama said in a speech June 5, repeating a theme he has main a key to his campaign. "They will not fund my party."

"So Barack Obama, who says that he doesn't want to have any lobbyist money in his campaign, is having a lobbyist bundle money from large corporations, many of which are clients, for the convention that's going to nominate Obama," said Steve Weisman of the Campaign Finance Institute, affiliated with George Washington

The poll also separately asked voters' choices if Ralph Nader and Bob Barr were included. In Colorado, Nader was at 7 percent, Barr at 3 percent, leaving 43 percent support for McCain and 42 percent for Obama.

In Nevada, the two candidates created a dead heat between McCain and Obama. Each candidate got 41 percent support with Barr at 5 percent and Nader at 6 percent.

In New Mexico, Nader was supported by 8 percent of those polled with Barr getting no support. Obama still had a lead of 50 percent to 36 percent.

NADER/GONZALEZ 2008
JUDGMENT TO LEAD!!!
OPEN THE DEBATES

Good point, S Adams. So it's a short jump for Obama to support healthcare for illegals.

Peach, Obama already supports Social Security, Drivers licenses, and welfare for illegal aliens.

Interesting the the Amish successfully petitioned congress years ago to be exempt from the SS system which includes medicare. Speaks volumes on where we have gone as a nation. Could the Amish be the last of the American Breed. VERY POSSIBLE. This relates in a way to Obama's "Hope and Change" campaign. Obama's Hope and Change originates from fed gov downward to the individual via gov programs. Most of we conservatives understand that TRUE Hope and Change can only can come from within an individual's desire to accomplish same. Moral values, religious beliefs, good parenting are but a few causes for inspiring success. Those values were major factors in making this nation great. Government entitlement programs can help economically for the short term, but the damage those programs do in the long run are detrimental to the individual AND to our society as a whole as demonstrated by the failed "Great Society" programs of the sixties. In general government handouts do more harm to the individual than good. That is but ONE major difference between conservatives and liberals. For the record I am a retired parochial schoolteacher - not a fat-cat.

kathy...

well said, and i agree. i think it is a huge shame that we cant provide health care for all americans. or at least those who abide by the law. but see you brought up a perfect point. you brought up social security and how people always get their checks. but do you realize how the government has stole our money from social security??!! im 30 years old. social security will NOT be there when i get ready to retire. why? beacuse the government couldnt keep their greedy little hands off of it and have been "borrowing" from its fund for years. BOTH PARTIES. not just dems or repubs, but both. and on top of that, they have known this for a long time ad have done NOTHING to repair this. so now let me ask again... do you trust them with your healthcare? the bigger and more control government gets, the more greed and corruption there will be. and this holds true for my beliefs on most issues. welfare? its a complete joke, both financially and socially. we have wasted BILLIONS of dollars on it since its inception. and it has done nothing but held the majority of those people down, especialy inner city black americans. and i work in that industry and see it everyday. its one of the biggest frauds in this country. but heres my point: the government should be small. survival of the fittest (to a degree). we need to lessen government handouts, and strengthen our MORALS again. we have become a country of whiners and people who "expect" everything. less government is the basis of all of this.

I wonder how many of those people who don't have health care are illegals?

tim,

I dont trust the government but at least with a government I can vote them out. Socail security is ran by the government and most of the time everyone gets there checks on time... True ? The fire department is ran by the government and the get the job done with honour!

I have lived for short periods in the UK and Australia anfd think they have it right! On healthcare. I fell there in australia Some years ago and was treated straight away as my daughter married and Australian. I fell here and Bluecross told me to sue my work and denied me treatment! Hmmm

We are a rich and carring nation and yet we cant even provide care for our people when we need it! The world think our way is greedy and wrong and sadly I think they are right! We are better and can do better Tim!

kathy...

thank you, but i do have to agree with temagami.... where in the constitution does it say health care is a right?

kathy...

listen, im done with the war subject... lol im so sick of talking about what bush's intentions were. frankly, at this point i dont care. i know we are there, i know we need to get out. and we are working on that. im not saying you are wrong and im right. i may be wrong, its just so exhausting to me.. but i do want to hear your reply on why you trust the government so much? its funny, whenever i come in here and have chats with democrats or liberals on the issues, i always ask "why do you trust the government so much" and i never get any replies... lol

HEALTH CARE IS A RIGHT? MUST HAVE MISSED THAT IN THE CONSTITUTION?

McCain is so in love with Obama that's why he keep picking on him. He want Obama to love him back!

tim | Aug 27, 2008 8:29:49 PM

Your question about just fixing the healthcare system that we have is what Barack Obama is offering!

I myself believe a government run system would be far better and the data supports that but Barack's plan will have to do for now!

Temagami

The figures I gave you are true!

FACTS ARE FACTS

CANADA AND EUROPE AND AUSTRALIA DDONt have problems with fraud!

The Problem they have is you have to wait for things you dont have to wait for here.. Thats because everyone is covered! We dont have to wait because lots of Americans are just plan left on there own! In the UK and Australia you have the choice of the government system or Private cover! Everyone in Autralia pay on avverage $550 and get government coverage! they can then enter in to private cover and pick there doctors and hospitals!

Private system is for profit...

Public healthcare is for care...

Frmo the sound of these comments you republ and Hilliary angry suppoters are making just let us Obama lovers know you guys are shaking in your boots. Love all your hatefull comments.
Obama 2008! EAT YOUR HEAR OUT!

Every government building has Greek columns. Bush's 2004 convention speech was framed by Greek columns.

Jesus are these people hypocrites about EVERYTHING? Apparently YES!

Kathy.

Please explain how Bush and Cheney are OIL MEN? I guess that I now much more about their current status than you do. Source? By the way Tim makes a lot of sense - JUST HOW WERE WE SUPPOSED TO HIJACK ALL THAT IRAQI OIL... AND WHERE IS IT???

tim,

Iraq isnt going to let us keep them!!

Thats what all this is about the Iraq government has made friends with Iran to make sure the cushy deals we made for US and British compaines with our troops lives are retendered and that the oil from Iraq, profits Iraq not those compaines!

Its a mess BP and the British government have already given up and excepted less and are pullingtheir troops out!

In the end it will be Americas biggest miss adventure! Leaving us indebt to China! Because Bush took us to war on a lie and didnt ask us to pay for it but borrowed the money from China! We are in bad shape!

spacerook..

you're right. there has been, and will always be, hypocracy in world politics. thats why i just cant believe that some people get behind one canidate so strongly. and i dont just mean obama supporters. THEY ARE ALL LIARS!!!! no matter who wins this election, if everyone on this board cant agree that there will be HUGE hipocracy by the next president, what can we possibly agree on? it happens with every president.

tim...look, the idea that dems and libs want a socialist government is so trite and so old, and so annoying. Pick a new line of attack you selfish selfish person. People are DYING in America because of tooth aches. The health care system we have OBVIOUSLY is not working and McCain is NOT going to change it AT ALL. Healthcare in the RICHEST country is not a privelage, IT IS A RIGHT. But many of you cold hearted neo cons could care less i'm sure if some poor slob dies from strep throat or a tooth ache.

but you wont hear the democrats talk to much about those because their bot slick willy ignored all of them, along with numerous alerts about the danger of osama bin laden.

Posted by: tim |
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Be very careful, history is not kind.
Just look a little further in history and you'll
find us cuddling up with that former Saudi
Bin Laden and lets not forget good ole' Donny
Rumsfield shaking hands with Hussein,
both with big smiles.
History bring out the worse for both sides,
all for oil?

kathy...

so you're saying when we start pulling our troops out, and the war is over, britain and the u.s are going to have control of their oil?! or were these leases just set up temporarily while iraq was in chaos with the war and had no central, stable government? what did you think was going to happen to the oil?! somebody still had to take care of it. but do you think the world will just let britain and the u.s keep the leases when we leave?! cmon now...

"why are you so trusting the government can fix it and run it properly? and thats not just for healthcare, that question if for ALL government or social programs. what makes you trust the government so much?"

Actually a better question is why do you trust the free market which is based on profitability with something like your health?

Let the free market insurance compete with government single payer. Simply remove eligibility requirements from the current public plans.

The government doesn't have to pay executive pay packages or for advertising or for lobbying efforts. Their overhead is dramatically lower than private insurance.

Kathy.

That's what the Canadians and Europeans originally thought - NOT NOW. The problem is that in general almost all gov run social programs are ripe with inefficiency and fraud. Yes, private plans do have promotional expenses, profits, etc. But minor compared to the boondoggle potential of a gov run program. I am on medicare and it is FAR INFERIOR to my company health plan. EXPERIENCE IN CANADA AND EUROPE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!!

ryan c...

sorry man, you're just flat out wrong. no further reply from me. you simply have it wrong.

"except tha WE WERE UNDER SIEGE BEFORE 9/11. our foreign embassies being attacked, the first world trade center attack, the u.s.s cole bombing... but you wont hear the democrats talk to much about those because their bot slick willy ignored all of them, along with numerous alerts about the danger of osama bin laden."

Let's see the 1st WTC attackers were arrested and tried and now sit in Supermax. Clinton attempted to hit Osama in 98 but rwers claimed he was trying to wag the dog.

Why did Osama want to kill us again? Oh yeah, American troops in Saudi Arabia protecting the Bush's family favorite family the House of Saud.

Condi Rice claimed no one could have foreseen 9/11 even though she acknowledged a memo said exactly that in the hearings.

Bush ignored Osama being holed up in Tora Bora so we could start a war in Iraq.

I will take Slick Willy any day of the week over that complete incompetence.

kathy...

wow. hows this for an idea.. first of, you do realize there are goverment regulations regarding health care right now correct. i mean, essentially there is government regulations on ALL business conducted here. and thats a good thing. but how about this for an idea: we just fix the free market system!!!! even if it is done with more government regulations, i would rather do that then hand over the whole damn system to them??!! so i want your opinion on my general question to libs and democrats... why are you so trusting the government can fix it and run it properly? and thats not just for healthcare, that question if for ALL government or social programs. what makes you trust the government so much?

McCain's acceptance speech:

"That's not change we can believe in." (Creepy grimace. Uncomfortable chuckle)

Posted by: BBpd
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Hey McCain is helping in one segment of
the economy, Aunte Millie and LL Bean have
sold out of Rocking Chairs. They're all being
shipped to the Republican Convention!

In 2004, the RNC stage had neoclassical columns. Of course, finding that out would require you to do research...

"every credible country on earth agrred with intel that bush used to make his decision to go in."

Two nations created the Iraq intel that was the prompt for us to go in, the British and ourselves. Both countries have been shown to have deliberately manipulated or falsified data to support military action in Iraq.

Bush ignored data from the International Atomic Energy, US weapons inspectors, the UN, & various NATO allies.

"if bush lied, so did the rest of the free world."

If he lied? Where are the massive stockpiles WMD? Where were the nukes that could launch in 45 minutes? It was all LIES.

Not only di Bush and his admin lie. They had a covert CIA agent exposed to cover up his lies then had to pardon the asshat that was directly implicated in said exposure. There's a word for that, its called treason.

barackstar...

is that whats happening now?

Antijake

Maybe we just got lucky over here and the bad guys thought that one attack was enough for us TO LEARN OUR LESON!!

Temagami,

You have to be joking right ?

Private healthcare is ran for profit!

Private healthcare pays for advertising!

Private healthcare has to provided services for share holders!

Look it up your self every University has done research on this!

For every Dollar spent a government run system would cost only 6 cent in admin. Government run system would spend more money on healthcare.

Its not rocket science

You neocon or neo-morons or what your ever your names are, Hitler?? LOL

Posted by: tim | Aug 27, 2008 8:16:42 PM

Dude, wake up. Bush and Cheney are OIL MEN. They have millions invested in the oil companies. The oil will be sold to by Iraq to US and British oil companies. Who, will sell it to you and me and make billions and billions and billions. Stock goes up, Bush and Cheney get richer. It's all a fraud.

antijake...

i aree with you on almost everything except tha WE WERE UNDER SIEGE BEFORE 9/11. our foreign embassies being attacked, the first world trade center attack, the u.s.s cole bombing... but you wont hear the democrats talk to much about those because their bot slick willy ignored all of them, along with numerous alerts about the danger of osama bin laden.

Both will be sorely tested by Biden's ego.

Rodney, if McCain is so lame why isn't Obama blowing him out of the water in the polls?
The answer was 0, McCain owns no homes. Didn't you listen to the news last week?

If you watch False News, listen to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, you've been mislead and you're misinformed.

McCain's acceptance speech:

"That's not change we can believe in." (Creepy grimace. Uncomfortable chuckle)

kathy...

ok, just for arguments sake, just how do you think the bush administration thought they would "get the oil"? i mean, you say we are there for oil. do you think bush thought he was going to invade, occupy the country, and steal their oil and sell it on the world market? send it all back to the states? what? i mean, its easy to claim "we went in for the oil", but what do you mean? what do YOU think bush's intentions were for the "oil"?

Kathy.

WHERE IN THE WORLD DO YOU GET THAT A GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS MORE EFFICIENT ($) THAN THE PRIVATE ONE WE NOW HAVE?? HUFFINGTON POST? CANADA AND MOST EUROPEAN COUNTRIES WANT TO TRASH THEIR HEALTH PROGRAMS BECAUSE THEY ARE COLLOSAL FAILURES AND HAVE BANKRUPTED THEIR COUNTRIES. ALSO CALIFORNIA HAS HAD TERRIBLE EXPERIENCES WITH THEIRS - STATE IS BUSTED, MASSIVE FRAUD!! CANADA'S PROGRAM IS SO BAD THAT SOME AREAS ARE EVEN SETTING UP LOTTERIES WITH THE WINNERS MOVING UP THE LADDER FOR APPOINTMENT DATES FOR OFFICE VISITS AND SURGERY!!!

Posted by: Citizen_Alerted | Aug 27, 2008 8:10:46 PM

I see you've had an OD of the Hate/Fearmonger Sean Hannity

"What did the war in Iraq do for us? For starters how about no terrorist attacks on our homeland since 911 - this was because our presence in Iraq FORCED the terrorists to PUT ALL THEIR EFFORTS INTO IRAQ ...... AND NOT HERE!!!!"

i am so tired of this tired old chestnut...had we been under siege prior to 9/11? no, we had not. it is not completely out of the question to suggest that had the outcome of the 2002 election been different, 9/11 might never have happened in the first place. so while you die-hard bush supporters like to promote the politics of fear, the truth is that there is zero evidence that the war in iraq did anything to prevent further attacks.