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Obama Offshore Drilling Drift

August 02, 2008 2:08 PM

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, now says he'd be willing to consider legislation including exanded off-shore drilling if part of a larger package, despite his long-time opposition to the idea.

I'm with my friend Marc Ambinder -- this strikes me as not quite a complete and utter reversal, but certainly a shift in tone and language, indicating a softening of his opposition and a recognition that energy legislation requires compromise.

Not unlike Sen. John McCain's statement that when it comes to Social Security reform, everything must be on the table, even though he personally opposes tax increases. (Though the back-peddling on that was confounding.)

My colleague Sunlen Miller has more on Obama and his off-shore drilling drift HERE.

- jpt

August 2, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (209)

User Comments

Shawn Curtis,

Most of people know that ABC is on Obama.
Especially George S is a loyal Democrat.
He said on "This Week" this election is about Obama.
I could not believe what I heard.

Posted by: catleya | Aug 4, 2008 8:03:37 PM

This is great, the Longer that MORON PELOSI Stalls on an Off shore drilling vote, the WORSE it gets for Obama and the DEMS, thats right Peplosi, keep stalling, soon the Public will revolt on you and Obama, November is just a FEW Months away, ths was a Great time for the Republicans to bring this up, it will only Hurt Obama more!!.

Posted by: Aden | Aug 4, 2008 4:52:46 PM

And so it came to pass that the "Anointed One" while speaking to the multitudes found a way in his infinite wisdom to transform his views to fulfill the prayers of the masses.

Posted by: Fred 2:1-4 | Aug 4, 2008 2:30:45 PM

I was on the verge of believing that GMA was trying to be fair in its election coverage..until I heard this morning's story on the Republicans speaking in the HOuse. What a disengenuous spin GMA!!!! The Republicans started their speaking on Friday..even after Pelosi ordered the lights and microphones shut off. The Republicans were doing this way before Obama flip flopped his position on off shore drilling. Your story this morning leads viweres to believe that it was because of Obama's choice that the Republicans started speaking! Tell the truth media! Obama is the follower not the Republicans..and hey while we are at it..why not talk about how McCain has pulled even in the polls..I guess GMA and others will be working doubly hard this week to help Obama make back the ground he lost last week.

Posted by: Shawn Curtis | Aug 4, 2008 7:51:04 AM

It would be fun if next month the poll shows opposite from now.
He would change his position again.

Posted by: catleya | Aug 4, 2008 1:23:17 AM

"Obama makes a common sense suggestion on how to increase gas mileage and save a few dollars. The requisite political snarks start kicking in and the suggestion is ridiculed."
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"taking this campaign into the gutter," according Obama campaign manager David Plouffe, as he checked the air pressure in The CHANGEling's limo tires for the third time that day.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Aug 4, 2008 12:48:41 AM

Obama drifting on drilling..........So, what did you expect? The polls MADE him to do it.
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The polls DIDN'T make him drift on FISA -- who DID??

Posted by: Belle Starr | Aug 4, 2008 12:40:45 AM

Ha! You should then have your ac on and all your windows open? You kill me, Buzz!

Posted by: Mike | Aug 3, 2008 10:42:48 PM

Buzz, why did the Republicans kill the bill 2 weeks ago that would have forced the oil companies to give up the leases they refuse to drill on?

That just proves that this isnt about drilling at all, but speculation and oil company profits.

Posted by: Mike | Aug 3, 2008 10:40:38 PM

"The more you spend on wind and solar, the cheaper it gets."

Really?

Ask Teddy Kennedy about that.

How about Nuclear power? Is that off limits in the liberal playboOK?

If you were serious, your computers would not be on, they'd be dark. as your apartments and houses.

But they aren't, are they?

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller | Aug 3, 2008 10:36:31 PM

If this is so important, which it is, why did the marvelous Democrats run away to take a wonderful vacation rather than work something out that might help us?

Were they just so busy that nothing could be done to alleviate the gas price problem?

Or do they want it to go high, like Barry Obama's advisor's wish that we all adopt wind power for our cars?

What a joke the Dems are on this subject. How many years must we submit to this nonsense?

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller | Aug 3, 2008 10:33:18 PM

Obama drifting on drilling..........So, what did you expect? The polls MADE him to do it.

Posted by: Bea | Aug 3, 2008 9:58:03 PM

Riley, President Bush has already received numerous requests from senators and congressmen to call for an emergency session of Congress. At least for now, President Bush says he prefers to let the Democrats hear the anger from their constituents back home. This being an election year every member of the House and 1/3 of the senators are up for reelection. So either they listen to their constituents and pass a new energy bill that rescinds the offshore drill ban when they return or they may face defeat in November.

Just a few weeks ago it looked like the Democrats would likely gain 30+ seats in the House and possibly 5-8 seats in the Senate. But all bets are off should the Democrats not rescind the ban on offshore drilling before the general election.

Posted by: James Danley | Aug 3, 2008 9:25:03 PM

The more you spend on oil, the more expensive it gets.

The more you spend on wind and solar, the cheaper it gets.

Posted by: Mike | Aug 3, 2008 8:39:50 PM

Don't forget that Senator McLame flip flopped on this VERY ISSUE a couple of months ago. I agree with the author, however. Sen. Obama is not for off-shore drilling, but is willing to compromise on bi-partisan bill to get to the long-term goal of weaning America off of oil.

Posted by: LMartin | Aug 3, 2008 8:00:25 PM

Obama will call the Congress back in to vote for drilling. This time they will vote yes and make Obama look like a hero.

What does Congress have to lose--they already are at a 9% approval rating, and Obama's polls are crashing. They are in a panic.

I only hope McCain beats him to it by asking Bush to call Congress back.

Posted by: riley | Aug 3, 2008 7:37:45 PM

I think the "discussion" of checking the air in your tires is emblematic of why so few things get accomplished in this toxic political environment.

Obama makes a common sense suggestion on how to increase gas mileage and save a few dollars. The requisite political snarks start kicking in and the suggestion is ridiculed. Some of the McCain surrogates are even suggesting that this is his "energy plan."

This stuff is so pathetic...I feel like I'm watching a sixth grade class president election (although I expect they're more civil).

If paying what you're paying for gas doesn't bother you, leave your tires and air filter alone. If it does bother you, check your tires and air filter and you'll save some money.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | Aug 3, 2008 6:36:02 PM

Anyone who has done any of their own research on this topic has run across this statement from the US Geologic Survey. It has been past around so many times it is not clear where it originated from or whether it is true or not.

The U.S. Geological Survey estimates...
There are 17.8 billion barrels of recoverable oil offshore—about 60% of proven U.S. reserves.
This could increase crude oil production about 7% over the next twelve years.
How will this affect gas prices? According to the Energy Department...

A barrel of oil now costs $140.
Increased supply would cut that price to an estimated $138.60 to $139.60 a barrel.
No one knows how this would affect the price of a gallon of gas for consumers at the pump.
If it is true, then our increased production of 7% over the next 12 years may have little effect on demand, in that China's annual demand growth is estimated to be about 20%. If this true, then it seems our increased of production of 7% will have little effect. Now lets suppose this is all internet trash and there is not one spec of truth in any of this, then will increased drilling lower the price of gas at the pump?

It seems logical that if you increase supply that demand will trail-off somewhat. In addition it does seem reasonable that predicted increased future oil supplies could have an effect on current prices. So maybe more drilling and predicted increases in supply could have a more near-term impact on the price of gasoline. There does seem a fair amount of discussion as to what degree the price would drop.

There is also the issue of the oil companies themselves. It is a fact that the huge multi-national conglomerates such as Exxon-Mobil and Shell have all seen record quarterly profits for several quarters now. Can we all agree that the oil companies have never had it this good? It has been proven that Enron generated billions of dollars by creating artificial shortages. My question is with oil companies currently out pacing their earnings, what will motivate them to act in the interest of suffering Americans and begin to increase supply? Don't skyrocketing prices at the pump have a direct connection to their huge profits? What action will cause these corporations to abandon their record earnings, take on huge risk and expense to start a massive drilling campaign across America?

ABC quoting the Wall Street Journal yesterday stated that the oil companies are spending more money on commercials that tout their work on alternative energy than they are on the actual research.
This appears to support the argument that oil companies are not really interested in moving away from their current business model.


I am also concerned that since oil is a commodity that is sold to the highest bidder, it seems likely that American's will get caught in a bidding war with China and other rapidly developing countries for oil that was extracted from our territories. If this happens, then it does seem plausible that the price at the pump might not drop all.

Is this reasonable? What am I missing here?

Posted by: HopingForABetterWorld | Aug 3, 2008 3:31:39 PM

Ultimately it comes down to how long it will take to find other resources...

Since we do not know the answer to that then I believe the best time to start drilling is asap.

It is definately an arguable case of when to start. However, to say NEVER is the worst possible idea.

Posted by: mike | Aug 3, 2008 3:12:58 PM

I'm for alternative energy resources, BUT in the mean time until we get all our engines converted to something much more reliable then we need to rely on oil.

Posted by: mike | Aug 3, 2008 3:07:46 PM

Are you trying to say that drilling in our country will actually cause us to be more dependent on middle eastern oil????
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Yes. Because drilling does nothing to wean yourself off oil. The increase in demand for oil will be greater than the increase in supply.
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No. Because then the government can set it's own price. Instead of it costing $140/barrel, it could be more like $80/barrel.

Posted by: mike | Aug 3, 2008 3:05:50 PM

@mike "Because in the time oil is drilled, the price of gas went up due to increased demand."

Exactly. That's why it is stupid to try to drill you out of this mess, it will be impossible.
The only smart thing to do is decrease demand for oil.

Money spent on drilling for oil can not be spent on investing in green technology.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | Aug 3, 2008 3:05:17 PM

@Mike: "Are you trying to say that drilling in our country will actually cause us to be more dependent on middle eastern oil????"

Yes. Because drilling does nothing to wean yourself off oil. The increase in demand for oil will be greater than the increase in supply.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | Aug 3, 2008 3:01:50 PM

Because in the time oil is drilled, the price of gas went up due to increased demand.

Posted by: mike | Aug 3, 2008 2:57:23 PM

Two years ago, we opened most of the Gulf of Mexico — with its estimated 41 billion barrels of oil — and oil prices since then have doubled.

The remaining prohibited coastal areas have only 18 billion barrels.

Why would releasing the additional 18 billion magically drive oil price down, while the 41 billion that actually were released, resulted in doubling the oil prices?

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | Aug 3, 2008 2:54:02 PM

Exxon has still put more money into finding future resources than any other organization...

However, the news isn't going to report that information...

The media is more concerned with Obama being compared to Hilton and Spears...

Posted by: mike | Aug 3, 2008 2:48:16 PM

"I bet you would find a majority of people support the government taking over the oil industry right about now."

This is the Democrat solution. Give the government an extreme amount of control over an American industry.

Do you know of the fraud at Freddie Mac and Sallie Mae?

Do you happen to think that the same thing might happen if the government controlled the oil production chain?"

As a matter of fact, yes. This is why you cant stand Social Security and Medicare - because they work. 40% administrative overhead in private health insurance, 2% in government. Let me know when you get tired of paying more than anyone else in the world and getting less for it.

Posted by: Mike | Aug 3, 2008 2:46:26 PM

Do you know of the fraud at Freddie Mac and Sallie Mae?

Yes, thats what happens when Republicans are in power, isnt it?

Posted by: You Make ME Laugh | Aug 3, 2008 2:43:51 PM

By the way, almost half of the profits earned by Exxon went into technology developing alternate enery resources....

Ha! Sadly, no. As a matter of fact, they spent more advertising their committment to alternative energy than they spent on energy research.

Posted by: The_Original_Mike | Aug 3, 2008 2:42:44 PM

Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller

Exactly, what have the democrats done in congress since they retook the majority of seats???

Gas at record highs, Still in Iraq and Afghanistan, Econonomy still poor...

But i think we should trust them this time.....

Posted by: mike | Aug 3, 2008 2:41:44 PM

"I bet you would find a majority of people support the government taking over the oil industry right about now."

This is the Democrat solution. Give the government an extreme amount of control over an American industry.

Do you know of the fraud at Freddie Mac and Sallie Mae?

Do you happen to think that the same thing might happen if the government controlled the oil production chain?

More oil on the world market will lower oil prices. More oil produced by us will lower the world oil price. Democrats getting out of the way of building nuclear plants will help us power electric cars, but they won't do it.

Democrats never come up with a single plan for anything, just a lot of whining, mocking and bitching.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller | Aug 3, 2008 2:36:50 PM

Willem van Oranje


Are you trying to say that drilling in our country will actually cause us to be more dependent on middle eastern oil????

Posted by: mike | Aug 3, 2008 2:33:43 PM

Isn't the point of every business to make money??? If you do not support a business, then boycott them by going to a different gas station. In which case then people will complain about that company.

By the way, almost half of the profits earned by Exxon went into technology developing alternate enery resources....

So don't complain about them only keeping their half....

Posted by: mike | Aug 3, 2008 2:30:51 PM

@Ann

And on another note: when you are worried that in 2003, 65% of our demand will still be ME Oil, then you definitely should NOT vote for McCain. He doesn't want to tell you but under his plans, we would be even more dependant on Middle Eastern oil.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | Aug 3, 2008 2:27:38 PM

AkaDad:"Why do people support offshore drilling when it does nothing to lower gas prices or get us off oil?"

They actually don't support drilling at all. Here's how to undercut the Republicans on offshore drilling: propose that the government begin to do offshore drilling.

What they support is offshore oil leasing, which is totally different, and just leads to speculation, whereas government offshore oil drilling would actually bring down the price.

I bet you would find a majority of people support the government taking over the oil industry right about now.

Posted by: Mike | Aug 3, 2008 2:26:04 PM

@Ann

I've read several post by you and I'm sorry to say but you are incredibly misinformed:
First, increased offshore oil drilling will not bring prices down, not in the short term (because it will takes decades before any oil of the increased offshore drilling will enter the markets) and not in the long term because oil is a world commodity and is sold on world markets.
Second, the amount of US resources are tiny compared to world production and world demand.
This is not my ‘belief’, this is the conclusion of the U.S. Department of Energy's Energy Information Administration (EIA). Access to offshore areas currently off limits "would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030."

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | Aug 3, 2008 2:22:30 PM

Why do people support offshore drilling when it does nothing to lower gas prices or get us off oil?

Posted by: AkaDad | Aug 3, 2008 12:41:51 PM

"Is Obama copying Kerry when he says "I was for it before I was against it even though I'm now for it"?"
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Is he ever NOT "copying Kerry"/Dukakis? And why's The CHANGEling afraid of unscripted town hall meetings, when he's claimed he's such a bring-em-together fella?

Posted by: Belle Starr | Aug 3, 2008 12:03:43 PM

I guess Bush didn't "flip-flop" did he.

Is it good to not compromise and negotiate?

Posted by: d | Aug 3, 2008 11:55:44 AM

Is Obama copying Kerry when he says "I was for it before I was against it even though I'm now for it"? Certainly seems that way. How can anybody seriously believe a word he says? When Obama flip-flops, he does so at a very major level and always seems to convince his lemmings that he hasn't changed at all. The guy can talk but falls very short on substance!

Posted by: Truman | Aug 3, 2008 11:35:01 AM

dl --Go to Obama's website
Go to Issues
Scroll down to Energy section
Scroll down to Set American on Path to Oil Dependence
Obama's plan will reduce oil consumption by at least 35 percent, or 10 million barrels per day, by 2030. This will more than offset the equivalent of the oil we would import from OPEC nations in 2030.

I printed the truth and I am sorry if you do not like it. That is 22 years from now and we would still require 65% of our oil from the Middle East under Obama's plan, of course we will have to wait 22 years to see if it works.

America is a great nation and full of experienced, capable, highly scientific experts in technology---we do not have to wait 22 years and still get our oil from the Middle East. We can drill and forge ahead with what made us great to begin with our American resources of intelligence. We can be responsible in 6-8 years and NOT WAIT 22 years and still get most of our energy source from the Middle East. Wake Up.

Posted by: Ann | Aug 3, 2008 11:14:45 AM

Can anyone other than the Luddite reactionaries explain to me why drilling our own oil is a bad idea?

Posted by: eric | Aug 3, 2008 11:14:06 AM

dl, you are correct! The stats are now coming in...it is all bogus. Man does have an affect, but it is no more that 5%. The cosmos causes the rest. If man really caused global warming then how is man causing the other planets to be in a warming trend?

Posted by: James Danley | Aug 3, 2008 11:13:19 AM

Ann are you freakin kidding

Obama has called for moneys to go into alternative energy r & d

Mccain has offered a 300 mil prize to someone who creates a battery...

Posted by: dl | Aug 3, 2008 11:01:30 AM

James Danley

I just realized who you are

calling global warming that "bogus issue"

Posted by: dl | Aug 3, 2008 10:59:31 AM

Yes dl there is a HUGE difference. Read Obama's website....2030 the US will still be buying oil 65% from the Middle East under his plan...that is another 22 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!to wait to see. America stand up and roll up our sleeves we can do it. We have the technology, we have the expertise, let's drill and in the meantime start putting other sources of energy into place so come 22 years from now we do not have to sit back and say we are still counting on the Middle East as Obama and the Democrats want.

Posted by: Ann | Aug 3, 2008 10:59:26 AM

OBAMA Says NO off shore drilling!
OBAMA MAYBE off shore drilling.
OBAMA off shore drilling? Yeah, why not.
John McCain is getting votes for his stance on off shore drilling, and I want those votes.

Posted by: Mike | Aug 3, 2008 10:55:19 AM

Riley

It is called a carrot...and it is brilliant...

"we can talk about off shore drilling but you need to do real thins right now oil companies...not things to try and fool the system into getting access to state politics with your lobbyist money"

Mccain is in favor of lifting the whole ban...

that is what the oil companies want

Obama said we can talk about expanding the approved area...

there is a HUGE difference

one is from a candidate taking his directives and stances from the oil industry lobby...the other is from that of a good President.

Posted by: dl | Aug 3, 2008 10:54:36 AM

Rodney, you wrote: "WOULD GUESS YOU WERE NOT AROUND IN THE 70S---OR YOU WOULD HAVE LEARNED A LESSON."

Wasn't it in the 1970s that the Democrats and environmentalists began their crusade to get us off oil by banning offshore drilling, blocking the building of new refineries and blocking the building of new nuclear plants? Oh! And look it up...in the 1970s we only imported 30% of our oil. Today we import nearly 70%.

Why should we only wait for just the one solution (lowering demand of oil), which will take 20 years to get us just beyond the break even point--50.01% alternative energy vs 49.99% oil? That's right in twenty years we will still be relying on 49.99% oil for our energy--and importing nearly 80% of that oil.

The quickest way to lower the price of gasoline AND end our dependence of foreign oil is to drill here (offshore) and NOW; build nuclear plants here and NOW; develop renewable energy here and NOW.

People wake up. The Democrats don't care how much you pay at the pump. They will do anything to get rid of the "evil" oil companies. Why do you think they are so adamant about blaming them for global warming? They are using that bogus issue to convince the American people that we need to end our dependence on oil right now (as in 20-30 years) in order to save the planet.

Vote Democratic and pay higher prices for energy!

Posted by: James Danley | Aug 3, 2008 10:54:04 AM

Here's what Obama is doing.
1) Each time that McCain calls Obama on Obama's lazy campaigning (hangs out at the gym, doesn't bother to visit injured troops, won't think about the surge, casual shifts in major positions like oil drilling), Obama counters with release of a major "policy" statement and manages to control the debate.
2) Obama is attempting to paint McCain as a cynic as a coded word to disparage McCain's age or racial views.

What the McCain crowd should do is
A) paint Obama as a lazy political opportunist, willing to use the same old tactics that have always been used by his party. Oil drilling flip-flop is a case.
B) Hit Obama with a one-two punch, i.e., hit Obama on one of the lazy, political opportunist issues in combination with an important political issue.
C) When Obama counters, use his counter to hit him with a one-two-three punch highlighting two lazies and a second policy issue.

This will cause Obama to freeze up and he'll stop doing things like shifting his position on oil drilling to buy votes.
C) Reframe Obama's "cynic" label for McCain into a "skeptic" label concerning McCain's view of Obama's lazy journey to the White House. Why shouldn't McCain be skeptical of Obama's lazy policies, Obama has no proof he's done anything of value or can do anything of value. Obama is sheerly a marketing machine, and a lazy one at that, that's it.

Basically, Obama is willing to do or say anything to try to buy this election. McCain's crowd needs to clobber him when he tries to do this.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Aug 3, 2008 10:53:30 AM

i have to say this before i go


WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE DRIVING MILES OUT OF THEIR WAY TO BUY GAS AT 1 CENT PER GALLON LESS AND NEWS PEOPLE TELLING THEM TO DO SO---IT IS A BLATENT EXAMPLE HOW DUMB THE PUBLIC CAN BE-----10 GALLONS OF GAS SAVE 10 CENTS AND SPEND A DOLLAR TO DO IT --NEED I SAY MORE

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 10:49:54 AM

west coast
my children are independant.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 10:40:43 AM

John McCain was making progress due to his stance on drilling, so it is only natural that Obama now flip-flop to get the votes. He can simply say that he has always been for anything that will help the US energy crisis, that has been his stance all along, everyone will buy it. Why did he wait until the very day that Congress closed and Ms. Pelosi turned out the lights for the summer break for 5 weeks? They can't vote on it now---another LONG delay ahead.

Posted by: Ann | Aug 3, 2008 10:39:38 AM

Rodney,
You imply that the working man should always vote Democrat. Even if the Democratic candidate is a politically greedy opportunist in Democrat's clothing? If the candidate is without principles and shifts major positions in the final run-up, should we still vote in that way? It seems to me that a smart Democrat will recognize when a candidate is trying to pull a fast one, and then vote independently in response.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Aug 3, 2008 10:38:19 AM

b obama
you are the one paying the bill.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 10:37:34 AM

riley
and in the end drilling will solve absolutely nothing---but will boost big oil profits---but then again they give a lot of their money to us.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 10:35:25 AM

I think we need to regulate companies on a dollars per minute basis, too. And then we can make sure that they spend that profit the way we want. Hugo and I agree on that point.

Posted by: b. obama | Aug 3, 2008 10:34:37 AM

Obama called McCain's decision to support offshore drilling "an election-year conversion".

He also said he wouldn't support drilling just because it was the popular thing to do.

A few days ago Obama call drilling a "scheme".

So what does Obama call his decision?
An election-year conversion, a scheme, or the popular thing to do?

I call it desperation---just like his $1,000 rebate scheme. He is crashing in the polls and 70% of Americans support drilling.

Posted by: riley | Aug 3, 2008 10:32:53 AM

During Q2 Exxon profits at the rate of $90,000 per minute and invests twice as much of its profit in share buy backs as it does in exploration.

Greed is good...particularly when corporate America's M.O. has always been to "privatize profits" and "socialize losses" by making the rest of us pay.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | Aug 3, 2008 10:31:29 AM

dont know for sure about obama--just know that mccain is too dumb to be the answer to anything----in all my years republican party has been for big business--and democratic party has been the party of the working man----and we all know who is the majority---just get out and vote

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 10:27:48 AM

I agree, dl, Jake did a good job but because he seems to be the only one willing to talk to the evidence. He's become the young kid noting the emperor is naked.

Yet once again, the panel and yourself want to play the age card. When will you get around to looking at the facts on the ground about the economy and admit that that the goal of the Obama campaign is to give away the wealth of America. You will bankrupt the country to purge your self-absorbed guilt.

We have real change to make. It will take leadership across the aisle to accomplish it. It will take a heart to heart with the voters. Instead, you offer guilt and warfare on the middle class. That's not change. That's a strap across our backs. In my experience all that achieves is to make people resentful and angry.

Posted by: len | Aug 3, 2008 10:23:32 AM

what you guys dont understand is i have absolutely no agenda other than the welfare of our country--i will not get paid by anyone as i dont need it----but i do see people hurting from the failures of our present government--and the runaway amount of money leaving our country will eventually destroy our way of life--i do not know if anyone can change the downhill spiral we are on---.but do give it a lot of thought--as big business and not only oil is using you to no end--check how many new billionairs are profitting from you.china is the the one i would fear most at this time.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 10:20:32 AM

Jake great job on This Week today...

seriously...perfect back and forth between you all...and you added a lot to the discussion.

I see your appearances going up in the future...
"ditz"...perfect...and whether you were right or wrong...the discussion had a younger energy...and that si what they need.

they had dueling youth "tests" with you on this week and Chuck T. testing on MTP

as if we could not tell that they are testing imagery between Andrea Mitchell and Chuck T. on MTP...

I think having you on This Week...and Chuck T. on MTP actually showed where both network sunday mornings need to go (not that George S. is going anywhere but).... even if you guys (pardon my honesty) still have a little green around the edges... the energy is the right place to go.

Posted by: dl | Aug 3, 2008 10:13:51 AM

sam
i know you just want to argue but the facts will get through.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 10:11:52 AM

jim
if he does he also will pay the price--as the present administration is.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 10:03:17 AM

ERIC
i wuld guess that oil and its controll by big oil and opec are beyond your understanding.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 9:59:41 AM

SAM
I AM SHOWING YOU THAT DRILLING WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING-----AND I KNOW YOU DO UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING.
THANKS

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 9:57:24 AM

manitu since it took ten million years to develope---10 FOLD OR TEN PERCENT---GUESS WE CAN WAIT ANOTHER MILLION YEARS.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 9:51:30 AM

DRJON
i told a person on here that he could produce biodiesel for around a dollar a gallon--and i got ridiculed to no end----HOWEVER HE CAME BACK AFTER DOING SOME RESEARCH AND APOLOGIZED TO NO END STATING HE WAS TOTALLY IGNORANT ON THIS FACT,we have the tec and we have the ability---all we need to do is get rid of the corruption brought on by big oil.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 9:49:17 AM

McCain is a leader while Obama is a follower.

Changing circumstances, included crippling gas prices, caused John McCain to include offshore drilling as part of his energy plan i.e. "conserve more, produce more, invent more".

Obama has stated over and over that expanding domestic drilling is not an option, but since seeing polling that 70% of Americans agree with John McCain, he has flipped his position (though cleverly couching it to look like a compromise as opposed to a sellout).

That's not leadership. A leader lays out his reasoning and gets people to follow his plans and ideas - Obama follows what the polls tell him he needs to do or say to win this race.

I want a mature, experienced leader in the White House like McCain. Obama is so wet behind the ears it's embarassing. He should have been content to spend more time in the Senate before thinking he was ready to be POTUS. He gave a good speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention; since then, he's been reduced to a media celebrity who twirls in the wind to try to attract voters. His multitude of flipflops begs the question: what exactly does he stand for, if anything?

Posted by: marylou | Aug 3, 2008 9:46:48 AM

Rodney.

Guess you don't know that there are new methods for speeding up mother nature's creation of oil by ten fold. Coming in near future. Windmills, experts say, might produce at most five percent of our CURRENT electrical needs - IF THE WIND BLOWS!!

Posted by: Manitu | Aug 3, 2008 9:46:47 AM

drjon
just remember that unless we do something outside the oil industry the arabs can controll us-----SOMEONE STATED THAT PRICE FIXING IS ILLEGAL----I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT YOU ARREST THE ARABS---

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 9:44:54 AM

JIMBO
IF YOU HEAT YOUR HOUSE YOU WILL GET A LESSON THIS WINTER AND I CAN ASSURE YOU NEXT YEAR WILL BE WORSE---OIL IS NO LONGER THE ANSWER--WE ARE TRULY AT A CROSSROAD.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 9:41:26 AM

DRJON
OIL EMBARGO---AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PRICE --GET THE PICTURE--AND SINCE NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE DRILL WE WILL STILL HAVE TO IMPORT APPROX 60%OF WHAT WE USE.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 9:38:59 AM

OIL COMPANY PROFITS?

STEADY 7-8 PERCENT PROFITS FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER. EXCESSIVE? MOST ON LEFT CONFUSE INCOME WITH PROFIT!!! AS ON THIS SITE!!

Posted by: Jimbo | Aug 3, 2008 9:38:59 AM

JIMBO
FIRST OBAMA STARTED OUT PROMOTING WIND GENERATORS AND YOU ALL LAUGHED AT HIM--SURPRISE IT WORKS--ALSO HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN FOR NUCLEAR AS HE KNOWS THAT WE HAVE THE TEC --AND YOU ALL STARTED THE CRAP ABOUT BEING POISONED OR BLOWN UP--TOTALLY REDICULAS----AND IS GUESS ALTERNATE FUEL IS ALSO NOT A GOOD OPTION----NOW ASK WHY YOUR PAST GOVERNMENT HAS NOT DONE A THING IN THESE FIELDS-----ALL YOU HEAR IS DRILL DRILL --JUST KEEP IN MIND OIL IS NOT RENEWABLE AND WILL GET MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE BEFORE IT RUNS OUT.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 9:36:44 AM

There was thing called the Arab Oil Embargo, Rodney. That means they reduced supply to us. Lowering the supply of a commodity tends to increase the price, Rodney.

-sorry about that-

Posted by: drjohn | Aug 3, 2008 9:35:10 AM

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS FOLLOW THE MONEY---AND IF YOU THINK YOU WILL SEE GAS AT 1.00 PER GALLON AGAIN YOU WILL BE IN FOR A RUDE AWAKING----WHY ARE YOU NOT NOT PROMOTING RENEWABLE FUELS.--KEEP THE MONEY IN OUR ECONOMY--I WOULD THING THAT WOULD BE THE BEST ANSWER.

Rodney, alternative fuels are fine and I am all for them. Please tell me exactly on what date they'll be available and less expensive than oil?

And how do you propose to change all the homes heated with fuel oil?

Home heating oil is the really big problem- not cars so much.

Posted by: drjohn | Aug 3, 2008 9:34:13 AM

just another flip or flop or lie or broken promise. it keeps adding up and up. this guy is a fraud. he cant be trusted to keep his word especially if it changes every other day.

Posted by: DEAN O | Aug 3, 2008 9:31:25 AM

The lesson WE SHOULD HAVE LEARNED IN THE 70s IS TO START PRUDUCING MORE OIL THEN TO BECOME MORE ENERGY INDEPENDENT. NOT TOO LATE NOW, AND WE ALSO NEED MORE NUKE PLANTS - NEVER HAPPEN WITH OBAMA AS HE IS OWNED BY THE SPs.

Posted by: Jimbo | Aug 3, 2008 9:31:05 AM

I was around.

There was thing called the Arab Oil Embargo, Rodney. That means they reduced supply to us. Lowering the price of a commodity tends to increase the price, Rodney.


Then the addle-brained Congress tried windfall profits taxes and that was a miserable failure too.

Posted by: drjohn | Aug 3, 2008 9:30:35 AM

DRJON
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS FOLLOW THE MONEY---AND IF YOU THINK YOU WILL SEE GAS AT 1.00 PER GALLON AGAIN YOU WILL BE IN FOR A RUDE AWAKING----WHY ARE YOU NOT NOT PROMOTING RENEWABLE FUELS.--KEEP THE MONEY IN OUR ECONOMY--I WOULD THING THAT WOULD BE THE BEST ANSWER.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 3, 2008 9:27:46 A