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Obama Pushes Back on GOP Tire Pressure Attack: "It's Like These Guys Take Pride in Being Ignorant"
August 05, 2008 3:47 PM
At a town hall meeting in Berea , Ohio, today, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, pushed back against the GOP attack on his advice to a voter last week that having a tuned up car and fully inflated tires would help save energy.
"Let me make a point about efficiency, because my Republican opponents - they don’t like to talk about efficiency," Obama said.
"You know the other day I was in a town hall meeting and I laid out my plans for investing $15 billion a year in energy efficient cars and a new electricity grid and somebody said, 'well, what can I do? what can individuals do?' Obama recalled.
"So I told them something simple," Obama said. "I said, 'You know what? You can inflate your tires to the proper levels and that if everybody in America inflated their tires to the proper level, we would actually probably save more oil than all the oil we'd get from John McCain drilling right below his feet there, or wherever he was going to drill.'"
(Note: that's not accurate, as we fact-checked last week. But the larger point about energy savings is correct.)
"So now the Republicans are going around - this is the kind of thing they do. I don't understand it! They’re going around, they're sending like little tire gauges, making fun of this idea as if this is 'Barack Obama's energy plan.'
"Now two points, one, they know they're lying about what my energy plan is, but the other thing is they're making fun of a step that every expert says would absolutely reduce our oil consumption by 3 to 4 percent. It’s like these guys take pride in being ignorant.
"You know, they think it is funny that they are making fun of something that is actually true. They need to do their homework. Because this is serious business. Instead of running ads about Paris Hilton and Britney Spears they should go talk to some energy experts and actually make a difference."
-- Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller
August 5, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (184)
Omar, you wrote: "When will republicans understand that conservation and alternative energy is the only way to become energy independent?"
Even Sen. Obama and the Democrats acknowledge that it will take TWENTY YEARS for alternative energy sources to EXCEED (not eliminate) oil as our leading source for energy. So even after 20 years oil will still be nearly half of our source for energy.
Oil is a natural resource. Why do you Liberals hate oil so much? You Liberals tout conservation...yet you want to increase our water usage in order to grow more corn in order to produce ethanol which when used as auto fuel emits almost as much carbon dioxide and MORE hydrocarbons, oxides of nitgrogen, and ozone than regular gasoline. It take 3.5 to 6.0 gallons of water to produce just one gallon of ethanol.
Finally, you also wrote: "...and the oil companies already have land they haven't started drilling on." The vast majority of the 68 million acres of leased land that you Liberals keep bringing up is on federal park and federal monument lands. The Democrats and Liberals SAY that the oil companies should begin drilling on these lands, but as soon as they attempt to many of these same people are the ones going to court to block drilling on these lands. Furthermore, these leases are for exploration of the land. It take years to assess whether there is any oil, whether there is enough oil, and whether it is cost efficient enough to drill. Upon determining that the land is worth drilling, then the oil companies have to go through all of the red tape in submitting environmental impact statements, obtaining drilling permits, undergoing years of litigation from lawsuits filed by environmentalists and nearby landowners.
Posted by: James Danley | Aug 7, 2008 10:06:43 AM
Obama got it wrong. Again.
Experts say properly inflated tires will increase your gas mileage 3 to 4%. Of course this is assuming everyone is going around with very low air pressure in their tires.
It will not reduce our oil consumption by 3 to 4%. There are no "experts" stating this.
Big difference Obama.
Posted by: Expose Reality | Aug 7, 2008 7:58:32 AM
Let me state first and foremost--our bi-partisan system of government sucks. What I find TRULY comical is the number of people pointing fingers at the GOP and their ignorance because of the time-frame required to bring drilling rigs online in ANWR. This is a true statement. What many are failing to mention is that we have NONE other to thank than the liberals and Slick Willie, who, if you recall, vetoed a bill back in 1995 to allow drilling in ANWR. Hmm...so if we do the math here, 10 years AFTER that fact would put us in 2005 and we probably wouldn't be seeing this mess. Contrary to popular opinion, we have enough resources in ANWR ALONE to sustain us at current usage for the next 250-300 years.
And the argument of "Oh the poor earth can't take this abuse any longer"....gimme a break. We have resources to use and we should be tapping them. When all is said and done, the earth will shake us off like a bad case of fleas.
Tire pressure?? This is the new energy plan? Neither one of these presidential wanna-be's has a clear cut energy plan and both of their campaigns is hell-bent on flip-flopping to succumb to a different voter base. Either way, we're screwed! We have to use the resources we have now and we DO have rigs online and ready to go...now we just have to figure out a way to make the Sierra Club disappear. Drill the hell out of ANWR!!!
Posted by: 1776_vol_2 | Aug 7, 2008 7:14:03 AM
The republicans are being disingenuous. Adding more land for offshore drilling won't do anything for 7 years, and the oil companies already have land they haven't started drilling on. They are pushing hard for this just so they can get their greedy hands on more land for future drilling. When will republicans understand that conservation and alternative energy is the only way to become energy independent? Oil is a precious non renewable energy source that we shouldn't be burning up in our cars. Its insane to do waste it like that for so many years.
Obama didn't lie, he said inflating tires would probably be as much savings as drilling offshore...so he was wrong...big deal. That's not lying.
Posted by: Omar | Aug 7, 2008 4:28:36 AM
"...(Note: that's not accurate, as we fact-checked last week. But the larger point about energy savings is correct.)..."huh?
Posted by: Bill | Aug 6, 2008 11:53:36 PM
Tyler,
Offshore drilling will not save we Americans any money at the pump. When the price initially drops, demand will once again rise, and price will therefore rise once again. Conservation, and renewable resource development are the only ways to drop the price of oil. Also your "70 percent" of the country Obama stated as ignorant is more than a little exaggerated. There is no way the GOP makes up 70 percent of the country.
Posted by: andrew | Aug 6, 2008 9:52:59 PM
Obama lied about how much tire pressure will help us
The drive-by reporter of this story must be in the tank for Obama, because no where in the story does he reveal the truth of what Obama actually said. Instead, he tries to cover for Obama. What Obama actually said was that we could save as much by inflating tires and getting tuneups as we would gain by drilling for American oil offshore.
That statement is false. No one would argue with the fact that tire pressure, avoiding jackrabbit starts and so on saves gas. Obama has a firm grasp of the obvious here. Obama’s problem is that he lied about the extent that tire pressure could help save gas, and he lied that we would save enough as we would gain by drilling offshore.
So Obama lied when he said simply inflating tires and getting regular tuneups would save just as much oil as the offshore drilling McCain is proposing. The Obama campaign could not provide figures to back up his claim that inflating tires and getting tuneups would save just as much oil as could be produced by offshore drilling. The reason Obama had to lie to avoid supporting drilling is that he is beholden to the radical environmentalist leftists who want America to fail.
John McCain wants to lift the ban on drilling and that would help Americans by reducing high gas prices. Obama wants to keep the ban in place and keep us buying oil from over seas, which will keep the price high. Obama doesn’t care about the little guy and his gas bills.
Also, Obama assumes we as Americans are too stupid to know that we should keep our tires properly inflated. Even if 90% of Americans were riding around with half-flat or overinflated tires, we STILL could not save much oil just by fixing that. And the reality is most people inflate their tires correctly, so any impact from a few more doing things right is MINIMAL!
I like John McCains “all of the above” approach. Of course McCain is like all of us, he understands that maintaining proper tire pressure is a good thing that provides minimal benefits. But even if Obama’s lie WERE correct, if we actually COULD save enough by changing tire pressure to offset drilling offshore, wouldn't it be even better to do both? Because just think of how many gallons of gasoline we could have, how it would drive down the price of gasoline and a barrel of oil. Why not combine both: the drilling of new oil here in the United States, the continental shelf; plus the proper inflation of tires, to double the effect of the oil that we are drilling? Obama is for the weak “tire pressure” strategy while McCain is attacking the problem head on to lower our price at the pump, while agreeing that conservation and new sources are also important.
Besides, you cannot grow an economy like America’s with just conservation.
Posted by: Tom Paine | Aug 6, 2008 9:45:44 PM
notafool, the price of oil went down because demand went down. Some of us can't afford to drive as much at $4 a gallon. Simple economics. Nothing to do with offshore drilling.
Posted by: obamamama | Aug 6, 2008 5:33:51 PM
re: "Nanny-state busybody Obama keeps telling us what we should do"
You know what? We need more of a nanny-state. The people in this country are so unbelievably selfish, greedy and destructive. Americans have no idea how to think in the terms of "we" instead of "me-me-me." If we're going pull ourselves out of our gas crises, healthcare crises, economic crises, etc etc, y'all better start realizing we're all in the same boat. Oh yeah, stop driving the SUV to the WalMart to buy garbage how about? How about doing that for me and Alaska? No. I didnt think so.
Posted by: jeff | Aug 6, 2008 4:41:14 PM
So this is what it feels like to be surrounded by insane people. I had no idea that there were that many people who were willing to twist the truth to fit their agenda.
First, why can't people see that being an admiral's son and being a child of privilege does not make you qualified? Being a prisoner of war for many years does not make you a good commander. Constantly changing your core beliefs does not make you a maverick. Changing your stances on issues because Big Oil is backing your campaign does not make you ethical. Tearing down your competitor, who happens to be right, does not make you a better choice. What is so good about McCain, other than he is not a Democrat, he was a prisoner of war, and he is a friend of the current President?
McCain is not qualified and I have NOT seen any proof to the contrary. He is not a good speaker and he doesn't have a stellar record as a student nor as a member of the military. He finished near the BOTTOM of his military class. He has not been tested in any relevant way to show him being a good leader. However, I have seen signs that he would make a HORRIBLE leader. He is not well spoken, doesn't listen to experts, and has a bad temper mixed with a bad memory. He has no understanding of a world map. Stating that Pakistan and Iraq share a border worries me. This is the man that people say has an understanding of the Middle East? More people need a map if they think those two share a border.
Posted by: CeeAyy | Aug 6, 2008 4:36:39 PM
Who are you people who want to drill? Do you not understand that the Earth cannot go on being plundered forever? That this is our chance to make the leap into renewable energy? And you think drilling in America would lower gas prices - thats a hoot.
Posted by: tyler | Aug 6, 2008 4:30:30 PM
Andrew sd:
"When will the right realize that Obama said this in reply to the question "
Who am I going to believe you or my lying ears? Your spin might work before there was an internet but nobody is going to buy what you are selling when Obama clears says inflating your tires will conserve as much gas as McCain is talking about drilling. There is no explaining away what Obama was trying to imply. He even paused waiting for the ovation for his display of brilliance and when the audience sat in stunned silence at his idiocy he stutters on.
Anyway, yesterday, your juvenile nominee reacted like a child by calling the 70% of the American population ignorant because they don't understand the "brilliance" of himself.
Posted by: LogicalUS | Aug 6, 2008 3:53:40 PM
Why does this remind me so much of Chris Rock's old `keeping it real` rant about the pride of willful ignorance ...
Posted by: AvangionQ | Aug 6, 2008 3:15:18 PM
@Angela
Read his books. Sure, he has a ego, who doesn't, and sure you have to have a big ego to want to be president of the USA, McCain is no different, but I don't get the feeling he is being anything other than genuine. To me the telling factor is that Obama has done exactly what he said he would do, run a clean, issues driven campaign and McCain has done the opposite of what he said he would do by running a tacky, meaningless campaign. So, I think I'll go with the guy that isn't lying to me before he even gets the job.
Posted by: David | Aug 6, 2008 3:01:58 PM
Opps!
Just noticed. That should have been "and resumed the war."
Posted by: James Danley | Aug 6, 2008 3:00:06 PM
Iraq Veteran...sorry but no lies. The Democrats said the same thing back in 1998. It was bad intelligence! Besides it was totally irrelevant as to whether WMDs were in Iraq or not. We didn't invade Iraq because they had WMDs. We invaded Iraq because Saddam Hussein refused to comply--for 12 years--with the conditions of the 1991 cease fire. So even after President Bush issued his final ultimatum Saddam Hussein refused to comply. SO President Bush rescinded the cease fire and resumed the was.
Posted by: James Danley | Aug 6, 2008 2:59:24 PM
Wow! All of these people who actually are defending the GOP scare me! These are some of the same IGNORANT SOB's that voted for Bush and are losing money at the pumps, and want the same thing with McSame?
Drill here, more oil! How many lives lost because of their lies and manipulation? So much for the UNITED States of America!
Posted by: Iraq Veteran | Aug 6, 2008 2:18:56 PM
When will the right realize that Obama said this in reply to the question "what can the ordinary citizen do to help?" he never said it would solve the energy crisis. Obama also said he's ok with limited offshore drilling, as long as his plan for renewable energy is still carried out.People can say hes flipping sides to gain votes, but at least he's showing that he will listen to what the people and experts say (unlike Bush, and more than likely McCain if elected)
Posted by: Andrew | Aug 6, 2008 2:17:14 PM
Freeper ,
The oil isn't going come out of the ground as soon as McCain is making out.That's the problem and the hype. You can check it out for yourself.
Posted by: ObaMan | Aug 6, 2008 2:04:44 PM
a great news
Posted by: erichansa | Aug 6, 2008 1:59:00 PM
How is drilling for more oil a hoax while inflating your tires is a solution?
Posted by: Freeper | Aug 6, 2008 1:54:53 PM
Greater supply does not necessarily mean lower gas prices. If world demand continues to grow then the price will remain high. Gas prices have shot up a lot in the last couple of years, but historically they are not that far out of line with real value (as compared with silver for example). BUT even if drilling does not lower price, it STILL needs to be done to work toward energy independance. WE NEED TO STOP BUYING ARAB/TYRANT-CONTROLLED OIL. Plus new drilling creates THOUSANDS of NEW US JOBS. Call it the NEW NEW DEAL AND START DRILLING NOW!
Posted by: Larry | Aug 6, 2008 1:45:47 PM
The math coming up with 800,000 barrels of savings is seriously flawed. NHTSA survey said about one fourth of the cars on the road have ONE or more underinflated tires. So the estimate of savings, at best would be about 1/4th of 800,000. They also quickly lumped in tune-ups, air filters and 'correct' oil to inflate (pun intended) the 'savings'. Nice try. Conservation is fine, but it will never fuel growth. WE NEED MORE OIL.
Posted by: Larry Wright | Aug 6, 2008 1:39:54 PM
"Notice noone has yet been able to explain how Obama plans to reduce our electic consumption by 15% at the same time adding 1 MILLION new electric cars to the power grid. "
Answer: Hope
Posted by: notafool | Aug 6, 2008 1:17:15 PM
The price of oil dropped $20 per barrel when Bush ended the executive order against off-shore drilling.
Gas will go below $3 per gallon when congress acts.
Even high school economic students know about supply and demand.
This nation's oil supply can be one of it's greatest sources of wealth. We'd be idiots not to exploit it, particularly now that energy has become a national security issue.
The environmentalists are 100% wrong about drilling by the way. All not drilling will do is allow other countries who are a lot less careful about the environment than we are to drill.
Posted by: notafool | Aug 6, 2008 1:14:48 PM
LogicalUS, you're exactly correct. See my post below re: nuclear energy.
Posted by: marylou | Aug 6, 2008 12:44:06 PM
Anybody who believes Obama won't support nuclear energy is not researching. One of his biggest donors is Exelon and, in fact, they're one of the reasons he voted for Cheney's Energy Bill. But that aside, they bought him to squash legislation that would have made a nuclear facility alert its neighbors when a breach occurred - thanks to him they only have to report if they think they should (kind of the fox guarding the hen house).
At any rate, Exelon wants to build 16 new nuclear facilities across the U.S. And knowing how Obama lies and going from past behavior, I'm betting they'll get them under an Obama administration.
So for all those who oppose McCain due to nuclear energy - remember that Obama is not who he appears to be, he's just a vision of agreeability to whomever he's addressing to pander for a vote.
Posted by: marylou | Aug 6, 2008 12:43:18 PM
Notice noone has yet been able to explain how Obama plans to reduce our electic consumption by 15% at the same time adding 1 MILLION new electric cars to the power grid. That is in addition to the additional amount of infrastructure which would have to be constructed to provide the addtional electricity utilizing heavy equipment which can only run on oil related products.
The short answer is he can't and it was a vapid, "pie in the sky" proposal meant to distract his know-nothing followers to coo over.
Posted by: LogicalUS | Aug 6, 2008 12:39:41 PM
Don't you all ever get tired of propping up Obama?
He said that merely inflating our tires would replace ALL the oil that could be gained by expanding domestic drilling.
McCain agreed that we should all do our part to conserve by keeping our tires properly inflated, but rightly pointed out that that isn't an energy plan (unlike his own "Conserve More, Produce More, Invent More" plan of action for energy independence.
Note to Obama: we know you don't get it. That's the problem. And when you're called out on your ignorance you cry like a little kid.
Is Obama for domestic drillling or against it today? Is he for tapping the reserves or against it today? Or have today's polls not come out yet to tell him what he's for or against?
Posted by: marylou | Aug 6, 2008 12:37:47 PM
Problem is, both parties have went off to loopy land. Both parties i don't believe are about "america". Obama i know hates this country he's already shown that. McCain, they only thing i could see good about him is he was ex-mill, and i'm sure does love his country and paid a big price for it. I have to at least give him that. So in my swing vote i believe RON PAUL WOULD OF BEEN THE BEST CHOICE, seeing how we can't have a man who would really changes things... we'll have to do with McCain. Maybe he can upset some people and get things moving. Reagan did just the same way.
Posted by: GodFear | Aug 6, 2008 12:28:31 PM
Obamas really onto something here. He should team up with the Jimmy Carter think-tank and go even further. Imagine the oil savings if drivers wear sweaters in the winter and don't run the heater. What if we pushed cars into parking spots instead of burning gas to do so. We could only drive to places that are downhill. The possiblities are endless.
Hope. Change.
Posted by: notafool | Aug 6, 2008 12:25:29 PM
Bottom line: Media trumps up Obama just to make it appear as if he has a chance. McBush will win in a landslide.
Posted by: Al | Aug 6, 2008 12:05:07 PM
yeah, Obama's tire pressure idea is stupid. Everyone should just follow McCain's improved light bulb plan from April 2007, that would be much better.
(please note the sarcasm)
Posted by: Andrew | Aug 6, 2008 11:56:55 AM
i hope McCain wins so all of his supporters get exactly what they need!
When McBush wins remember YOU ASKED FOR IT!! LOL
Posted by: Al | Aug 6, 2008 11:50:25 AM
@ mcgruff:
Your point being? Don't check your tires to improve efficiency because there's a chance some are inflated properly?
This is what the rightwing mouthpieces are hoping the populace will fall for. Talk about grasping at straws. They know the facts aren't on their side, so they resort to ridiculous talking points like these-- knowing it will successfully sway the non-thinkers.
Posted by: deK8r | Aug 6, 2008 11:48:38 AM
Obama is like most politicians. He wants power. He comes across as full of himself.
No one really knows who he is -- since he plays to the audience so he can hear the cheers.
Posted by: Angela | Aug 6, 2008 11:47:57 AM
but if the half with bad tire pressure fix theirs, then you end up with a gain genius.
Posted by: Andrew | Aug 6, 2008 11:47:15 AM
If people check their tires and half of them are under inflated and half are over inflated what do you gain. 0. I knew you could figure it out.
Posted by: McGruff | Aug 6, 2008 11:26:21 AM
Aaron sd:
"with new ideas"
What new ideas would those be? You must be very young or you would recognize his ideas are virtually the same as Jimmy Carter's of the 1970's in both energy and foreign policy??
Isn't it amazing what people delude themselves to believing with "wishful thinking", lets go look at Chicago's Obama district and witness for ourselves the wonder of Obama's power to tranform the world, shall we?
Of course not, because Obama did nearly nothing for this district but now the "Messiah" is going to transform our entire economy and world.
Come on, surely you can see thru your fog to at least ask some sensible questions.
Why are Democrats so afraid of drilling for "our" oil but have nothing bad to say about other countries drilling everywhere and anywhere, China is contracting to drill in the waters between Florida and Cuba. If Republicans are willing to throw some more money at "pie in the sky" solutions, just like we have for the past 30 years, why are you afraid of drilling? Because Democrats are in the tank for a few radical environmentists, that is why.
Posted by: LogicalSC | Aug 6, 2008 11:25:35 AM
To those who say Obama is trying to lecture people, wasn't it George W. Bush who blamed "irresponsible homeowners" for the housing crisis, while completely ignoring the sub-prime mortgage and Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac debacles helped along by gov't?
Posted by: Alexm | Aug 6, 2008 11:21:43 AM
Would somebody tell me what McCain plans are for Energy. All I here his drill drill drill and sprout Nuclear power plants in everybody's backyard. How is that a plan?
Posted by: E. Coli | Aug 6, 2008 11:19:10 AM
You stated, "(Note: that's not accurate, as we fact-checked last week. But the larger point about energy savings is correct.)"
Unfortunately, you were corrected by a poster in the previous article that it is indeed true. You calculated using barrels of gas, not barrels of crude.
Per example. Most people are ignorant to the fact that a pot of coffee uses approx 15 gals of water when you facter the water used to produce the energy needed to transport the coffee, the water used to cool the electric plant, and the energy used to pump the water used.
The net result is cumulative on a logarithmic scale variable by complexity and scope of operation.
Butterfly wings in Africa.
Posted by: root | Aug 6, 2008 11:17:30 AM
One hilarious contradiction I caught: Yesterday Sean Hannity was railing this same talking point (implying that Obama's tire-pressure suggestion was stupid). Seconds later, an pre-taped ad came up for a tire company, in which Sean told listeners to come to this company to check their tire pressure, as "it will increase fuel economy, and every little bit helps."
What a maroon!
Posted by: deK8r | Aug 6, 2008 11:06:01 AM
@Angela: The Bush administration was full of people with long, long histories in politics, and look where it's gotten us.
If your black friends are voting for Obama just because he's black, that's stupid, but that's THEM being stupid, not Obama. Tell them to do their research, then do your own, and don't just vote for the person with the longest record (of failure). We are facing problems which have been problems for YEARS, and McCain has been part of that problem for YEARS. Obama is fresh blood, with new ideas, and an eye to change things rather than just trying to come up with temporary, BS solutions (offshore drilling which is going to reduce gas prices by a few cents 30 years from now? AWESOME IDEA, REPUBLICANS!)
Posted by: Aaron | Aug 6, 2008 10:57:07 AM
Obama was elected to the Senate in 2004. He spent barely 2 years there before he started running for President.
He is a product of the media hype, bought and paid for by Move'on.
My father was white and my mother is black.
My black friends admit they are only voting for Obama because he is black. No other reason. I tell them I am voting for McCain because he is more qualified to be President.
It really is too bad that some of you who support Obama feel the need to use so much profanity when trying to express your opinions.
Posted by: Angela | Aug 6, 2008 10:20:28 AM
"Well, thats true only in the mind of someone denying the existance of a shared reality, or someone who thinks that McCain supporters are easily fooled, isn't it?"
It would take a "shared reality" to believe that Obama is going to perform the miracle of increasing the load on our energy grid by 1 MILLION CARS and at the same time reducing electrical comsumption by 15%.
Oh, never mind, I think I know the answer...HOPE AND CHANGE!!!!
Posted by: LogicalSC | Aug 6, 2008 9:33:47 AM
if his entire energy plan is from Jimmy Carter's 1970's campaign?
Well, thats true only in the mind of someone denying the existance of a shared reality, or someone who thinks that McCain supporters are easily fooled, isn't it?
Posted by: Mike | Aug 6, 2008 9:23:05 AM
I lOve it! Read all of the whining, moaning GottaOilPartiers comments!
The only way to reduce the price of oil is to not use as much. That means alternatives ( KUDZNOL anyone? Smart TN folks are using a weed to make fuel)and changes on our part. I love the uproar coming from the RRW side. Makes my day!
Posted by: MaeScott | Aug 6, 2008 9:19:21 AM
Seriously, Jake, how about someone in the media asking McCain what he thinks an individual could do and see what McCain says. Obviously, he can't now say that it would be wise to inflate their tires. Whats he going to say , that there is nothing we can do as individuals without waiting for government? Somehow, I dont think that is going to sound too good to his base.
Posted by: Mike | Aug 6, 2008 9:18:42 AM
Jo -
P. Kael also said, you can learn a lot more about movies from a bad one than a good one. Boy...have we learned a lot it the last eight years.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | Aug 6, 2008 8:40:46 AM
Note: Your fact check isn't even close. (Clarification is probably needed) It's wrong.
Posted by: Dave | Aug 6, 2008 8:00:16 AM
Hillary For President!
Posted by: misspris | Aug 6, 2008 2:51:13 AM
Another classy comment from the post partisan "chosen one."
Posted by: Thank God for Karma | Aug 6, 2008 1:24:59 AM
Obama can only muster up the courage to talk down to the American people about tire pressure. But when it comes to taking on Pelosi and Reid he quakes in his boots.
Wuusssss ... that's both what he is and the sound of Americans filling up their tires with Obama hot air.
McCain 08
Hillary 12
Posted by: fob1989 | Aug 6, 2008 1:23:30 AM
Obama can only muster up the courage to talk down to the American people about tire pressure. But when it comes to taking on Pelosi and Reid he quakes in his boots.
Wuusssss ... that's both what he is and the sound of Americans filling up their tires with Obama hot air.
McCain 08
Hillary 12
Posted by: fob1989 | Aug 6, 2008 1:23:23 AM
squintz, I'm fairly certain the DOE has been around at least since Carter. So they've likely dispenced such advice even under Rhodes scholar Clinton's tenure.
Posted by: Dave | Aug 6, 2008 1:05:15 AM
"You mean like when the press SHOWED Sen. Obama talking about himself when he said: "he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills." First he denied the comment was about race. Then a couple of days later he backtracked and admitted the comment was about race. "
Posted by: James Danley | Aug 5, 2008 10:12:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And the strangest part about this tempest in a teakettle is that OBama initiated the whole magillah when he audaciously and presumptuously re-engineered the Presidential Seal to accomodate his head... and ears.
But nobody cried "racism" then....
hmmmmmm
Posted by: hmmmmmmm | Aug 6, 2008 12:58:29 AM
You silly libs are missing the point. It's not about properly inflated tires. Hell, I learned that in auto shop and AAA sends out a press release almost every month about it.
The fact that some disciple in the audience asked the Obamassiah what to do is almost right out of the new testament.
"A lone disciple from the gathering asked
What can we do, o Obamassiah, to save ourselves this crisis. We are merely thy servants and have not the faith to achieve these things on our own;
And Behold! The Obamassiah rose up to address the disciples that had gathered;
"I say unto thee my servants. Go forth and get thee an tire gauge. For with powerful tool he will be able to know the proper inflation for thine tires on thine chariot.
And with such knowledge he shall be able to suffer through the fuel price challenge.
And if ye heed these words;and abide by my commandments, upon election day will I then reveal
all that he should know"
And upon hearing these words the crowd wept with grateful that one Man could posses such knowledge.
And yea, verily the disciples did proceed to forth and purchase tire guages.
And they remained faithful to his words, knowing that if they did so;
On that great and glorius Election Day, all would be revealed"
This is Barry's Jimmy Carter in a cardigan sweater telling us all what to set our thermostats at moment. Comes close to being his Dukakis in a tank moment.
While few dispute the validity of his advise, it makes him come off as arrogant and condescending. Wait! What's different about that? I guess I mean to say it makes him come off as his usual self
Posted by: Dave | Aug 6, 2008 12:57:15 AM
"3) They had to ignore that he was talking about the amount of oil in the areas McCain wanted to add, and instead pretend that he said the total amount of offshore oil, so they could 'fact check' it and have the numbers come out wrong for Obama."
I've run the numbers both ways, see my previous posts.
If you use the total OCS numbers, Obama comes up way wrong.
If you use just the additional 18 billion barrels in OCS resources that lifting the drilling ban would add ... OBAMA STILL COMES OUT WRONG.
18 billion barrels is a heck of a lot MORE oil than 200,000 barrels a day.
It's like these no-drill Democrats are proud of being unable to do math.
Posted by: Travis Monitor | Aug 6, 2008 12:24:40 AM
This is exactly why the NObama will lose...his inability to run a real campaign. Always calling people stupid.
Well, he ought to know stupid, he sometimes calls them his supporters too.
Posted by: blackcatsoda | Aug 6, 2008 12:11:57 AM
"The reality that makes the republic party argument moot is that the oil companies could drill offshore TODAY if they wanted."
FALSE. There are 18 billion barrels or possibly much more offlimits to offshore drilling, in places like SC, FL, California, etc. Only in the gulf of Mexico is it legal, which is just a fraction of the total US OCS area. And the oil companies have more drilling rigs in the gulf of mexico, where it is legal, than any other place on earth.
" They've not even begun to scratch the surface of all the offshore parcels already available."
FALSE AGAIN. Most of the easily extractable offshore oil has been extracted and/or explored. So much so that they are going into 'deepwater'.
" Why? More oil available would lower the price. And they have no intention of drilling immediately in "
This is about a long-term shift in supply and demand by opening up known resources for domestic use.
You are spouting false and phony Democrat talking points that have no relation to the reality of the oil and gas business. More supply lowers prices, just like with any other product/commodity. Changing laws to open up a resource doesnt mean it will be for sale tomorrow, but it does mean that in a few years an oil field can be develeoped and it can produce oil for several decades.
It's not a panacea, it's just a GOOD IDEA.
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Posted by: Travis Monitor | Aug 5, 2008 11:59:53 PM
"My understanding was that McCain said people should inflate their tires to manufactures' recommendations. He just thinks we should open up more areas offshore to drill as well as developing alternative fuels. "
Yes, of course. Republicans know how to maintain cars without being told how by their leaders. Democrats expect the Govt to tell them how to do it. It's pathetic and funny at the same time that Obama and his koolaid drinkers are taking pride in this point, as if Obama had a flash of brilliance.
Actually, Obama came off like an idiot because HE IS WRONG ON DRILLING. No, Mr Obama, inflating tires will not come close to saving the oil to be gotten from drilling.
Do the math: 18 billion barrels of oil is off-limits, probably more, due to the Federal drilling ban on the Outer Continental shelf.
Obama claims, very generously, 200,000 barrels a day (3% of oil usage in transportation) from inflating tires (never mind that most people are already doing what he suggests and a mere suggestion to do it more wont impact behavior much). Even at that high number, We need to keep 150 million cars properly inflated for 200 years to match the 18 billion barrels avialable in OCS.
And these even leaves aside the obvious retort: WHY NOT DO BOTH? Conserve now *AND* drill here, drill now?
Posted by: Travis Monitor | Aug 5, 2008 11:53:07 PM
"Lecturing us about tires does not solve the energy problem. People are sick of being lectured and blamed by the like of Al Gore and Barack Obama."
BINGO! Nanny-state busybody Obama keeps telling us what we should do, and telling us how we have do this or that. Meanwhile when it comes to the Govt actually *helping* solve the energy problems, he and the drill-nothing Democrats say "NO". No to nuclear, no to drilling domesticly in OCS and ANWR, no to coal to the point of banning, no to letting oil companies reinvest - they want to tax it away, no to refineries.
We need 'all of the above' in energy production, not just say no to everything except spending billions on the impractical and expensive (like solar).
Posted by: Travis Monitor | Aug 5, 2008 11:42:31 PM
Nader/Gonzalez 2008
These are the ones who will win the White House!
It will never be the NObama
Posted by: blackcatsoda | Aug 5, 2008 10:55:57 PM
Mike, I'm sorry but I am not buying it. You wrote: "He actually said that it had a racial dimension..." To tell you the truth that sounds a lot like saying someone is a "little" pregnant. You either are or you're not. In this case, it is either about race or it isn't about race.
So what about Sen. Obama saying about Republicans: "We know what kind of campaign they're going to run. They're going to try to make you afraid. They're going to try to make you afraid of me. He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. And did I mention he's black?"
Did THAT have a racial dimension to it?
Posted by: James Danley | Aug 5, 2008 10:53:10 PM
No, It's like-uh-like Baracka takes a lot of pride in being ignorant- He is a total DORK!
Posted by: misspris | Aug 5, 2008 10:47:07 PM
Mike you wrote: "...if the press would stop putting words in his mouth or 'reading his mind' and instead just told us what he said in the first place, we wouldn't have that problem, would we?"
You mean like when the press SHOWED Sen. Obama talking about himself when he said: "he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills." First he denied the comment was about race. Then a couple of days later he backtracked and admitted the comment was about race.
Beckie is right!
Posted by: James Danley | Aug 5, 2008 10:12:36 PM
James, this is a case of the press 'reading his mind', and here's why. Despite the fact that alot of the corporate media wont tell us, it is now common knowledge thanks to the internet, that Obama was talking about a McCain ad that had him photoshopped into US currency. Now, look back at what the press showed us. Obama and McCain were both pretty light-hearted about the whole thing, and neither of them mentioned race, did they?
He never 'admitted' the comment was about race either. He actually said that it had a racial dimension, and it was pretty clear that he meant that just about everything in our society has a racial dimension, but he didnt want to make it about that. He didnt accuse McCain of anything other than avoiding the issues either.
It was the press that got worked up about race here, not the candidates.
Posted by: Mike | Aug 5, 2008 10:28:15 PM
Fill your tires up to the max with Osama's hot air. This way you can visit all 57 states with no gas problems. In fact, if you follow Osama's formulas for high gas prices, you'll probably need to stop occasionally to dump your excess gasoline.
Posted by: Vituperator | Aug 5, 2008 10:26:26 PM
The GOP ARE fools. Especially the ones in power and garnering massive media coverage. Hannity I'm looking at you ...
Posted by: John Doe | Aug 5, 2008 10:20:53 PM
Mike you wrote: "...if the press would stop putting words in his mouth or 'reading his mind' and instead just told us what he said in the first place, we wouldn't have that problem, would we?"
You mean like when the press SHOWED Sen. Obama talking about himself when he said: "he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills." First he denied the comment was about race. Then a couple of days later he backtracked and admitted the comment was about race.
Beckie is right!
Posted by: James Danley | Aug 5, 2008 10:12:36 PM
Typical Democratic game playing: Speaker Pelosi told her fellow Democrats in the House to go ahead and SAY they are FOR drilling offshore so they can get reelected. She also told them that she will take the heat because she still has no intention of ever letting offshore drilling come to a vote.
Wake up America! Unless we lower demand AND increase supply we will be beholden to foreign oil for decades to come. That's because it will take 20 years for renewable fuels to just overtake oil as the leading source of our total energy. But we will still rely on oil for at least ANOTHER TWENTY YEARS beyond that. So that is 40 years of paying an arm and a leg for gasoline.
The Democrats aren't thinking of you. The Democrats don't care about you. The Democrats only care about being reelected and demonizing the oil companies. If the Democrats really had their way you would be paying $3 (or more) federal tax on gasoline. They have no intention of attempting to lower gas prices. They have been advocating that we Americans pay the same price as the Europeans ($6-$8) for years. Don't take or even dismiss my word for it. Google it!
Posted by: James Danley | Aug 5, 2008 9:51:38 PM
My understanding was that McCain said people should inflate their tires to manufactures' recommendations. He just thinks we should open up more areas offshore to drill as well as developing alternative fuels.
Inflating tires, not carrying extra weight, etc. seem like common sense ideas most people already know about. But since not everyone does, so I've included some common sense low-tech techniques to increase mpg on my blog.
Posted by: S.P. Gass | Aug 5, 2008 9:48:26 PM
Well Mike, are you accusing the Obama press of throwing their guy under the bus?
Beckie, are you serious? These are the critical errors that a free press never would have made:
1) They had to pretend that Obama was not using the example of tire inflation as an example to show how trivial the McCain offshore leasing plan is in terms of the amount of oil,
2) They had to pretend that this was an actual energy plan that Obama was announcing
3) They had to ignore that he was talking about the amount of oil in the areas McCain wanted to add, and instead pretend that he said the total amount of offshore oil, so they could 'fact check' it and have the numbers come out wrong for Obama.
I think that the last is the most telling. Any news site that used what Obama actually said says that he was right, news sites using what the GOP said Obama said say that Obama was wrong.
Im not saying that the media are in McCains pocket, just that they are easily duped.
Posted by: Mike | Aug 5, 2008 9:36:34 PM
The reality that makes the republic party argument moot is that the oil companies could drill offshore TODAY if they wanted. They've not even begun to scratch the surface of all the offshore parcels already available. Why? More oil available would lower the price. And they have no intention of drilling immediately in any new offshore areas that legislation would make available. They merely see an extended period where the free-for-all, Republic Party money grab will be over, and they want all the territory they can get before that happens. The lie that this "new" oil would help today is obvious when you understand that US refineries have no capacity to refine more oil. Only two reasons this debate is even on the table; securing freedom to drill anywhere they want in the future and drumming up a false "solution" to smack the Democrats around with. The truly ridiculous part is that lot of Americans are buying it lock, stock and barrel. Brought to you by the same people who were going to bring democracy to the Middle East.
With regard to the mouth breather railing about Obama's speeches; what's wrong with having an intelligent president for a change? Someone who's conversant in English and can actually pronounce the word "nuclear"? He's right; you really are proud of being ignorant.
Posted by: Raymond | Aug 5, 2008 9:31:53 PM