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Obama to McCain: Your "Juvenile" Tactics Are Fattening Our Campaign Coffers

August 01, 2008 5:37 PM

The campaign of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, has a message for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz, and his newly aggressive tactics: you're being juvenile, and all you're doing is helping us raise money.

McCain has this week issued a TV ad comparing Obama to an Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, which McCain-backing Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-SC, said was to show that Obama-mania is "hysteria around a personality that's attractive, but when you look under the hood there's not a whole lot there."

Today McCain issued a web video insinuating that Obama -- called "The One" -- is a false messiah, perhaps not unlike Shabbatai Tvi, or that dude that owns The Washington Times.

Of McCain's new messiah web video, released today, Obama campaign spokesman Hari Sevugan says, "it’s downright sad that on a day when we learned that 51,000 Americans lost their jobs, a candidate for the presidency is spending all of his time and the powerful platform he has on these sorts of juvenile antics. Senator McCain can keep telling everyone how ‘proud’ he is of these political stunts which even his Republican friends and advisors have called ‘childish’, but Barack Obama will continue talking about his plan to jumpstart our economy by giving working families $1,000 of immediate relief."

The Obama campaign also claims that yesterday more than 100,000 donors -- more than a third of them first-time contributors -- contributed to Obama's campaign on the internet, prompted -- they believe -- by McCain's newly aggressive and negative approach, "taking this campaign into the gutter," according Obama campaign manager David Plouffe .

"You responded this week" to McCain's attacks, Plouffe says in a new web video emailed to contributors, because "you want a different kind of politics…You're not going to allow these attacks from John McCain to dominate this campaign."

"I think John McCain has harmed himself in the last week, really eroding any capital he had built up in terms of the kind of politician he is," Plouffe says, "but he's really helped our campaign. Because so many of you now have contributed in the last week, our field offices across the country had people pouring into them yesterday. Because while John McCain may want to make this campaign about Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, you want to make it about our future and the change we all need to make."

- jpt

August 1, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (202)

User Comments

Since Obama's response to the protestor was "You don't like it, do it yourself then" paraphrasing, yet same difference. The young man, was not allowed to respond to that because the crowd cheered Obama, as they jeered the kid. When the kid was questioned by the MEDIA he answered he "Was not satisfied with Obama's (dismissive) answer and so he won't be voting for Obama. As someone said in another post, that with all that money from HUGE donors monthly installments from little rich college kids why is Obama turning into such an EXPENSIVELY, High media backed LOSER?

Posted by: irma | Aug 4, 2008 2:33:37 PM

John McCain = $540 shoes

Posted by: McPain | Aug 4, 2008 2:01:54 PM

The best defense against the Schmidt/ Rove/ McCain offensive. Focus on the people behind the negative strategy, the new McCain campaign. Use their strength (the negative campaign) against them, repeatedly.

1. The takeover is now complete. The McCain campaign is now run by the Schmidt/ Rove/ Cheney/ Neocon/ Haliburton/ Swiftboat/ Smear apparatus. The same team that gave us Bush, the same dirty politics, the same distractions, the same disaster awaiting the country and economy, is now controlling the McCain campaign.

2. They know how to win Presidential campaigns. And when let loose in the Whitehouse in just 8 short years – they will also run the economy into the ground, lose 50,000 jobs per month to China and India, send billions a month in US wealth to middle east oil despots who stoke terrorism, lose prime US assets to our enemies, lead us into record national debt, the subprime crisis, Enron and more.

3. They must think we are stupid. Will we vote against Rove, Cheney and the neocons and show them that you can fool all the people all the time? Will we tell McCain it is sad that he is embracing the same dirty politics and desperate Bush strategist that smeared McCain, his family and his adopted Bangladeshi daughter Bridget in 2000?

Posted by: Couper | Aug 3, 2008 11:46:02 PM

Some of you are Democrats, some are Republicans, and some Independents. It doesn't matter the party, we all need to wake up and think about our pocketbooks when looking at McCain vs Obama on tax agenda.

Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales

How does this affect you?

If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain in taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will also adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.

Posted by: Nobama | Aug 3, 2008 1:54:46 PM

********************************************
If you believe any of the things politicians
promise, BEFORE the election,then I have a bridge
in Brooklyn I want to sell you.
All bets are off on spoken promises
"READ MY LIPS !!!" Have them put it in writing
and watch them squirm like snakes.

Posted by: spacerook1 | Aug 3, 2008 7:09:57 PM

Don't you know he got more money than any candidate has collected and that still doesn't help him at all, he's still at or worse in the polls than he was before. So u can continue to give all you want but money isn't gonna buy more voters. You people are delusional if you think voters can be bought. Obama is an empty suit full of promises duping you into thinking your lives will get better with him being president. Your lives should be better already, cause he's going around acting as if he was the president already.

Posted by: ArrogantObama | Aug 3, 2008 2:24:44 PM

Obama flip flops again about the debates. He first say it would be a great idea to old town hall meetings with McCain besides the 3 standard. Now he says no so far. He's playing it safe and don't want to stumble or make mistakes. Why are we letting this happen? Why are we giving Obama a free ride on this election? What is he hiding from the voters? Obama cannot be trusted, he's dangerously inexperienced and is afraid that negative issues will come out to the public in debates. He also shun Hillary and the debates she proposed. This is our country, we cannot elect someone that is not coming to us transparent and with nothing to hide.

Posted by: ArrogantObama | Aug 3, 2008 2:16:42 PM

Some of you are Democrats, some are Republicans, and some Independents. It doesn't matter the party, we all need to wake up and think about our pocketbooks when looking at McCain vs Obama on tax agenda.

Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales

How does this affect you?

If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain in taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will also adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN 20%/15% (no change)

OBAMA 39.6%

How will this affect you?
If you have any money invested in the stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned in taxes if Obama become President. The experts predict that higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN (no changes)
Single making 30K -- tax $4,500
Single making 50K -- tax $12,500
Single making 75K -- tax $18,750
Married making 60K -- tax $9,000
Married making 75K -- tax $18,750
Married making 125K -- tax $31,250

OBAMA
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K -- tax $ 8,400
Single making 50K -- tax $14,000
Single making 75K -- tax $23,250
Married making 60K -- tax $16,800
Married making 75K -- tax $21,000
Married making 125K -- tax $38,750
How will this affect you?

Pretty straightforward. Under Obama your taxes will almost double if you're making $30K -- is this the "middle class" that Obama wants to help?

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax

How does this affect you?

Many families have lost businesses, farms and ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will subject those assets to these taxes.

NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA

* New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet

* New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already)

* New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating, gas, water, electricity)

* New taxes on retirement accounts and last but not least ...

* New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries.

Posted by: Nobama | Aug 3, 2008 1:54:46 PM

THE MESSAGE of McCain's ad is spot on! We could have done without Brittany and Paris, but the MESSAGE is clear: No matter how much of a celebrity you are, it doesn't qualify you to be the leader of the free world, Commander in Chief and the president that the American people would be proud to have lead them!Obama has such a THIN RESUME!!!!! He's running on "change" and hope for the future. McCain has a lifetime of changing things that are not working right, even if it has meant going against his own party. He is nothing like Bush. He is his own person. You couldn't find a politician more independent if you tried, on either side. He probably holds the record for putting out more bi-partisan pieces of legislation than any public servant in history. He will make a fine president.

Posted by: martha | Aug 3, 2008 1:21:35 PM

What a week!! The Bush-McCain people were reduced to issuing the most childish ads in the history of American politics and Obama's fund raising from ordinary folk soard!!

Posted by: Herb Gray | Aug 3, 2008 10:38:15 AM

Wouldn't it be interesting if all message posters on this subject were sent off to a deserted island somewhere and told that the only way to survive was to come to grips with reality?

Posted by: paisley13 | Aug 2, 2008 9:51:38 PM

I am a 39 year old man. I have never voted. I wasnt even registered. And I NEVER gave money to political campaigns.

Today - I registered online, I gave a large chunk of change to Obama's campaign. And I will Vote this fall.

Truly - it was inspired by McCain's ads. I was planning on voting, but not planning on giving money. But this joker McCain is an embarassment.

Posted by: Brian S | Aug 2, 2008 9:43:18 PM

Irma, you wrote: "Grant, his answer was, to include helping everyone of all colors, then dismissed the kid with a "If you don't like it...you can run for President." So, if we have a problem with the candidate, rather than analyze any issues, our sole offer from this man in his job is to run for his job as a solution to the way he runs things. Sounds pretty RIGID."

Umm, Irma, you might want to check your facts. Senator Obama said that he had put forward his views on all the issues that the protester incorrectly said he had been silent about. Then he acknowledged that the protester might not agree with him, which seems pretty reasonable, not rigid. He then pointed out that the protester, or anyone else, could vote for a different candidate or run for office (he didn't say for president) themselves.

I guess you feel that instead, he should have abruptly adopted the views of a local fringe group that is reduced to heckling to get attention, and abandoned his own considered views based on a lifetime in the policy field? Sorry, I don't think so.

Gosh, after reading your comments, I feel like donating to Obama again now -- but I agreed to donate and volunteer on his birthday (Monday) as part of a volunteer-led initiative, so I think I'll save it til then.

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | Aug 2, 2008 8:26:10 PM

mcaine is to old and full of old resentments in his war times to even think he has a chance to win this election he might want to get even like bush did and further weaken the economy

Posted by: phillip | Aug 2, 2008 8:05:38 PM

why all of a sudden, nearing bushs end in the whitehouse this administration is trying to get something done. why was drilling for oil, and all these other favorable options for energy efficiency talked about last year or the biggining of this year?

Posted by: phillip | Aug 2, 2008 8:01:51 PM

Grant, his answer was, to include helping everyone of all colors, then dismissed the kid with a "If you don't like it...you can run for President." So, if we have a problem with the candidate, rather than analyze any issues, our sole offer from this man in his job is to run for his job as a solution to the way he runs things. Sounds pretty RIGID.

Posted by: irma | Aug 2, 2008 5:58:06 PM

Hey, Obama, I guess marketing yourself to entice juvenile interests is okay though huh?

Posted by: irma | Aug 2, 2008 5:52:47 PM

One of the key questions in this campaign is whether we as a nation can collectively discuss controversial topics like race in a mature, sophisticated, and civil manner, or whether we must inevitably decline into immature point scoring, 'gotcha' politics, and ad hominem attacks.

I would venture to say that Senator Obama's campaign has been betting on the former. Meanwhile, the increasing influence of former Karl Rove staffers in Senator McCain's campaign is a clear sign that the McCain campaign is betting on the latter holding true.

Just because you talk about (let along obliquely mention) race doesn't mean you are "playing the race card."

Race is an important issue and a legitimate topic for discussion. Some people may want to bury their heads in the sand and ignore the issue, or pretend it doesn't exist, but it does.

The key is how you address race.

Obama was using humor to obliquely reference his own race while addressing the larger issues of some of the rumors and skepticism that have been circulating about him.

Meanwhile, the McCain campaign shows its immaturity in talking about race, by immediately categorizing the mere mention of something remotely racial as "playing the race card." In doing so, they show that they are willing to drag the level and standard of public discourse down to the lowest level.

Posted by: Gene | Aug 2, 2008 2:54:09 PM

"If the way Obama handled the protesters is any indication as how Obama would handle an international crisis... WE'RE IN TROUBLE!!!" Aug 1, 2008

WHAT???? He allowed them to ask their question after he was done talking and answered it in full. He also let them stay for the entire event!!~

Posted by: Grant | Aug 2, 2008 12:40:16 PM

Nice way to ask for more money from Americans who have to choose between gas and food on the table! Just keep the money rolling in!

Posted by: Beckie | Aug 2, 2008 12:25:05 PM

I would like some thorough research into where Obama's contributions are really coming from. I have heard that although he claims most of his donations come from first time, small $ contributors, that he is really getting funded by a number of powerful people with hefty agendas and favors that need filling. .

Posted by: Nikki | Aug 2, 2008 8:58:07 AM

Nikki,
These filings are required by the Federal Elections Commission and when they do the numerical breakdowns the percentage of "small" donors that Obama touts is in fact true. Several CNN reporters and even one broadcast on FOX have verified the numbers.

Posted by: Coleen Kennedy | Aug 2, 2008 11:47:25 AM

"As Catholics, this is beyond insulting... to use one of the most revered man in the Bible is beyond the pale."

As a Methodist, JMC, I have to inform you that is Charlton Heston, not Moses. The one thing we know about Brittany and Paris is they are NOT actresses. They play themselves everywhere they go. Obama should consider doing the same but then who knows if he knows who he is at this point.

Obama: The Symbol Or The Lawyer?

Posted by: len | Aug 2, 2008 11:09:42 AM

How much money is mccain collecting in Social Security? Is his first wife
still living, the one he cheated on and then went on to marry the millionaire?
Why did he flip-flop on the tax breaks for the super rich? Why did he not
denounce the hagee endorsement earlier? What was his role in the keating-5?
Why didn't he want any cameras around during the bush fund-raiser last week??
Really makes you say hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm doesn't it??

Posted by: pt | Aug 2, 2008 10:16:31 AM

So more money will convince Americans
that Obama can be trusted and is qualified to be president.

I don't think so..It does make him look like a desperate politician trying to buy the election.

Obama will raise our taxes to support his enormous spending habits.

Taxpayers will pay for Obama's pet projects and probably foot the bill for some of his crazy pastors.

Posted by: cindy in nc | Aug 2, 2008 9:54:36 AM

What's more juvenile than a make-believe presidential seal.

Or a presidential candidate posing for reporters on his airplane--twirling around in his jeans.

Or giving free concerts and beer to attrack huge crowds to feed his ego.

Or a middle-aged presidential candidate kissing up to disgusting rappers just to look cool.

Yes Obama is real mature.

Time to send a donation to McCain.

Posted by: riley | Aug 2, 2008 9:28:54 AM

geevil said:
Yeah, a guy who does fist bumbs with his wife...
************
Clue alert! George H.W. Bush was photographed doing the fist bump in 2006! So I assume he is "juenvile" too? LOL!

Posted by: jmc663 | Aug 2, 2008 9:20:58 AM

Love it! After seeing the "Moses" ad, my entire family donated, most for the first time ever. As Catholics, this is beyond insulting. Every Christian should be outraged. It's ONE thing to use Paris and Brittany, but to use one of the most revered man in the Bible is beyond the pale.

It shows you just how McCain feels about religion, he will use it to smear his opponent. DIGUSTING!

Posted by: jmc663 | Aug 2, 2008 9:17:40 AM

I would like some thorough research into where Obama's contributions are really coming from. I have heard that although he claims most of his donations come from first time, small $ contributors, that he is really getting funded by a number of powerful people with hefty agendas and favors that need filling. I wish a journalist would look further into this. This could be some pretty shady stuff. When Obama declares so often that his money comes from small donations, I start to think 'He doth protest too much'.

Posted by: Nikki | Aug 2, 2008 8:58:07 AM

If the way Obama handled the protesters is any indication as how Obama would handle an international crisis... WE'RE IN TROUBLE!!!

Posted by: Manitu | Aug 2, 2008 7:34:20 AM

Yeah, a guy who does fist bumbs with his wife, Jay-Z brush offs and Will Smith bird flipping is calling someone juvenile. And Obama the fool has turned old McCain into juvenile McCain. Not very bright is it.

Posted by: geevill | Aug 2, 2008 7:23:57 AM

I just wander how many youngsters would like the comparison of them with politicians who are throwing garbage on each other.

Posted by: Krishna Dixit | Aug 2, 2008 7:21:56 AM

Every day this week because of these attack ads, I have donated to Barack's campaign. The latest ad about Moses really reminds me that not only did God part the Red Sea, but Jesus feed at least 5000 with 5 fish and 2 loaves of bread. Thanks to John McCain and the Republican party the money donated to Barack's campaign MULTIPLES!!

Posted by: Not This Time | Aug 2, 2008 2:14:42 AM

Desperation!!!! Sheer manic desperation on the part of John Mccain's campaign. I have always felt that John McCain is not just a maverick as he boasts (indisciplined man), he is a dirty old man. His tactics are dirty. his words are laden with filth. I just cannot understand why in heaven's name anyone would want to put this angry, demented old man in the White House in the 21st century.

Posted by: exatlantic | Aug 2, 2008 1:52:21 AM

I donated for the first time after I saw Obama fight back with that good ad.We need more of those lined up atleast every other day, never mind the money.

Posted by: Jeter | Aug 2, 2008 1:50:36 AM

I hope Obama won't be playing nice with McSame's attacks? That will be a BIG mistake. He tried it with Hillary and he narrowly won. This is the time to go full throttle against McSame.

Posted by: ddave | Aug 2, 2008 1:16:28 AM

Hey, McCain supporters, did you see where McCain said something with which his campaign did NOT agree? When the interviewer asked one of McCain's lead guys about it, he replied: Senator McCain does not speak for our campaign!! Imagine that!! So what we obviously have at McCain's campaign is his campaign heads creating and writing what McCain MUST SAY, when he goes of script as he often does, he IS NOT SPEAKING FOR THE CAMPAIGN!!! McCain's handlers are the ventriloquists and they pull the strings which make McCain the puppet speak. Who's running for president anyway?? Is it McCain or is it one of his handlers, or all of his handlers?? I am confused, aren't you? McCain does okay when IF he keeps his eyes on the written words, he does not do well with the teleprompters. If he looks away from his notes and the teleprompters, he loses his place and begins making up his own thing which does not match where he left off....the are the times McCain is not speaking for the campaign and when he sounds like an jerk. Aren't you McCain supporters getting tired of looking at that pale corpse-like face with a smirk which pauses and waits for applause which he seldom gets?? McCain has always been a vicious man, he is known for his rages in the senate. He has tried to "play nice" but cannot hide his facade so the real vicious, ugly, dispicable McCain is exposing himself for who he really is! Love it!! Am glad we are seeing the REAL McCain BEFORE the General Election and NOT AFTER!! I cannot imagine this vicious, ugly old buzzard at the helm of our Beloved United States!!

Posted by: NinaK | Aug 2, 2008 12:56:07 AM

Republicans like McCain have nothing left to do but attack. Obama is talking issues while McCain is talking about Hollywood. I want to fill my gas tank Mr.McCain and I can't do that by waiting on greedy oil companies to drill or you talking about a stupid ad. Obama '08.

Posted by: Mutee | Aug 2, 2008 12:41:02 AM

we made 145 contributions to Obama's campaign this week. It was insane, it took a lot of time, and now we're broke.

Posted by: John Powalski | Aug 1, 2008
====

Who is bonehead now, and get deceived.

Posted by: Jokerous | Aug 2, 2008 12:31:02 AM

You bonehead supporters might just save your 100 bucks rent for this month to pay your increasing gas bills. Coffers. With his inflating-your-tire-energy-strategy, you will need to pay 5 times more if he deceives enough people.

Posted by: fat cat | Aug 2, 2008 12:26:10 AM

Yes we tried the Democrat rule during the 1970's and we entered into a depression only rivlialed by the GREAT DEPRESSION.

1960's was also the Democrat rule. We entered into the quagmire of Vietnam war

Posted by: cincyr., | Aug 2, 2008 12:21:32 AM

Obama campaign cost 100 billion dollars.

Obama losing to an American hero President John McCain .. PRICELESS

Posted by: freedom rings | Aug 2, 2008 12:19:41 AM

Obama supporters are very enthusiastic about their candidate. Though we are ridiculed for it, he does give us hope for change in this country.

Many are getting involved in politics for the first time in their lives; giving of their time, their talents and financial support.

The negative campaigning will not work. Not this time. The Republican rule of this country is coming to an end.

Posted by: cincyr | Aug 2, 2008 12:18:53 AM

It is sad how McCain has gone negative. His campaign staff is damaging his career. Too Bad. I don't agree with everything he stands for but I always respected him. I feel sorry for him because he is losing respect.

Posted by: JerryZ | Aug 1, 2008 11:30:40 PM

Good job, Jake. Everything you said in that article is true. As a result of McCain's attacks, we made 145 contributions to Obama's campaign this week. It was insane, it took a lot of time, and now we're broke. But we can ill-afford to have the lying, dishonest John McCain as our president at this critical time for our nation.

Posted by: John Powalski | Aug 1, 2008 11:15:15 PM

Just because mc-more-war was a pow does not mean he should be president. The guy used to have a spine but now is nothing but a flip-flopper and a panderer. He's also an OLD fart. The real straight-talker, John Murtha said that the Presidency is no place for an OLD man. There's a reason they make pilots retire at age 60. mc-more-war needs to retire with his millionaire wife. (The one he had an affair with after his first wife waited for him to come back from the war.) Obama 2008!!!

Posted by: pt | Aug 1, 2008 11:09:39 PM

I donate every week to Obama.

On Monday, August 4th, thousands of supporters will be donating online to celebrate Obama's birthday and the change he is bringing to American politics.

Join this massive grassroots fundraising event on Monday!

YES WE CAN.

Posted by: Joe | Aug 1, 2008 11:03:49 PM

"taking this campaign into the gutter," according Obama campaign manager
David Plouffe,
-----
tossing another dart into the watermelon on top of the television set, and pouring another three fingers of gin

Posted by: Belle Starr | Aug 1, 2008 10:59:05 PM

True enough story. I actually donated twice yesterday bringing my donations for the month to four. McCain supporters, on the other hand, got ads the guy's own mother called "kinda stupid."

Posted by: MKSinSA | Aug 1, 2008 10:55:06 PM

The Amount of money being spent on the election process is OBSCENE. People are suffering . As americans if you expect the govt to change you are living in a dream world.

Posted by: Who Knows So What Who Cares | Aug 1, 2008 10:55:01 PM

i will go to sleep tonight knowing obama will be our next pres.
and dreaming of paris washing my car what could possibly be better

Posted by: rodney | Aug 1, 2008 10:20:47 PM

I'm still trying to figure out why mccain confused the Packers with the Steelers 3 weeks ago while speaking to a Pittsburgh crowd. He said he used the names of the famous Steelers Defensive line of the 1970's while being interrogated, too bad these guys weren't even playing when mccain was being interrogated. He is either going senile or he was trying to pull one over on the Pittsburgh crowd, either way this is BAD news for mc-more-war. You can check out the article by going into google and typing "mccain steelers" and picking the first link.
Obama 2008!!!


Posted by: pt | Aug 1, 2008 10:15:05 PM

Can we please stop calling McCain childish/juvenile, and start calling him senile? Senile people do childish things but let's cut to the chase my friends.

McCain for President (of Iraq).

Posted by: rambo | Aug 1, 2008 10:02:33 PM

Can't speak for anyone else, but I gave another $150 to Senator Obama yesterday.

This is important and it's worth it to me. We cannot stand 4 more years of the same old BS. And that's what you are gonna get with McCain.

Posted by: toothchipper55 | Aug 1, 2008 10:00:04 PM

fighty
mccain is the worst candidate i have seen in my many years and that includes bush

Posted by: rodney | Aug 1, 2008 9:58:10 PM

lets get back on track obama thinks mccain is acting juvenile---i think that alzhimers has progressed
yes at 72 alzhimers is correct

Posted by: rodney | Aug 1, 2008 9:55:43 PM

big oil here and opec have the perfect monopoly

Posted by: rodney | Aug 1, 2008 9:51:34 PM

jschmidt,

Well reasoned. I suspect we may disagree with the tactics of what we should do, but your view is spot on.

W.R.

Posted by: W.R.Printz | Aug 1, 2008 9:47:39 PM

jssmidt
just remember that big oil and opec are in total controll-- and if we produce more the arabs will produce a little less--therefore nothiong changes---big oil here will sell on the world market and we here will see very little or no change---big oil will make bigger bucks.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 1, 2008 9:46:41 PM

confused,

I do think that McSame has some temper issues, but not ones that are a danger to National Security. He is not going to drop a bomb on someone in a fit of pique, etc. (Though, he did show that he was willing to beat up Strom Thurmond should the need arise...)

The main problem with his temper is that the GOP has a lot of people who just plain hate McSame. He is going to have a very hard time governing if Diebold manages to get him elected.

Posted by: W.R.Printz | Aug 1, 2008 9:35:34 PM

I am an Obama supporter but I think he is all too human unlike McCain. He is enduring multiple disabling conditions; possible post traumatic disorder syndrome, life-threatening cancer, and aging. All of them might affect his cognitive, affective, and behavioral performance. In spite of all these adversary conditions, republicans believe McCain will be a better president than Obama. McCain is truly an Uebermensch, more powerful than Moses.

Posted by: confused | Aug 1, 2008 9:30:27 PM

Dream on about all those new donors. I don't believe anything his campaign says.

Posted by: s. valenti | Aug 1, 2008 9:26:37 PM

I'm certainly one of those who contributed, though not for the first time. I thought at the time that Obama was lucky McCain launched those ads right near the end of the month, which is usually a good donating time already. It certainly inspired me to give more!

I have learned through the Obama campaign that there is always something concrete I can do when I get angry at the media coverage, opponents' statements, or the like, or when I worry about the results from a poll. One easy thing I can do is to make a small donation to Obama or the DNC. Another one is to go out and register more voters. I did both this week and it made it a whole lot easier to handle the barrage of negative and viciously false attacks and smears.

I think the thing that made me maddest, if you will forgive a reference to another network, was to see Rick Davis, the McCain manager, repeatedly talking right through Andrea Mitchell for minute after minute during an "interview," because he was scared to have her ask him rational questions about the celebrity ad. Of course, I'd say he lost a number of the remaining Hillary voters who had been intrigued by McCain with that incredibly disrespectful performance, but it was still disgraceful.

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | Aug 1, 2008 9:25:41 PM

If you think that I am going to say that Jack Murtha is clean, or any pol. is clean, you are sadly mistaken.

McSame, along with four others, including John Glenn, deserved JAIL TIME for the Keating scandel, IMHO.

However, to say that they are under investigation from the Fed. Government, dominated by Republicans who have shown to be willing to abuse their power and put people in jail for false crimes....I think I can accept Conyers and Murtha on Ethics.

Posted by: W.R.Printz | Aug 1, 2008 9:10:25 PM

I see your point. By countering his/her false stories, I'm just trying to help the truth get out there to others in the public rather than actually expecting an honest debate with him/her/it.

Posted by: JoMama | Aug 1, 2008 9:08:34 PM

Nancy Pelosi goes to bed at night dreaming of having Bush's 29% approval rating, but every morning she wakes up to the nightmare 9% approval.

Poor Nancy. Oh yeah, and her new book is a big fat bomb.

Posted by: Jo | Aug 1, 2008 9:07:31 PM

Yep. She is not only a good leader, she puts the nations interest above her own political interest.

Doing the right thing is not always popular. I think W may have said something like that...or are you calling your own beloved W a liar?

Posted by: W.R.Printz | Aug 1, 2008 9:03:50 PM

BarackStar, no I listen to everyone. If you don't listen to Fox then you only know half the story since the mainstream liberal media covers up what they dont' want you to know.

I listen to both sides to get the real stories.

Again, you lose.
Posted by: Jo | Aug 1, 2008 8:58:28 PM


Actually, I listen to an hour or so of Sean's radio show almost everyday.
I always can use a good laugh. He lies EVERYDAY and takes things completely out of context. He's a paid GOP/RNC mouth piece. Complete moron.

Posted by: BarackStar | Aug 1, 2008 9:03:15 PM

Oh yeah, Pelosi is a good leader. That's why she has a 9% approval rating.

Nancy was going to put Murtha and other people like Conyers, etc. in leadership positions AFTER she said she would come in and CLEAN UP the GOP corruption.

You're joking right? About Pelosi? Because that was hilarious.

Posted by: Jo | Aug 1, 2008 8:59:55 PM

So the Obama campaign is calling this whole thing JUVENILE. Obama is the only juvenile in this.
Put more air in your tires to save on gas and if you vote for me I will send you a $1,000 after the election. Folks, he is saying he will pay for your vote.
I keep waiting for some real solutions from Obama for our problems and all I get is hot air for my tires. LOL

Posted by: Mary | Aug 1, 2008 8:59:13 PM

The drilling is a bad idea, but a popular one. The reason it is being blocked by the Dem Leadership is not that it will pass, it won't, it is that it would give the Republicans an issue to campaign on that impacts pocket books, and makes those low knowledge voters turn out.

Naturally, Pelosi is actually a GOOD leader (from a political stand point) because she is doing what is best for the NATION (not offering a stupid solution to a complex problem, like the Republicans want) and at the same time not handing the Republicans a victory.

That is responsible, political leadership, and that is why you guys are here crying about it. Your side is making hay for a bad idea that helps only corporations and hurts the US.

The problem with most of you is that you claim to love the United States, but in fact you love the corporate interests in the US at the expense of the good of the nation as a whole.

Posted by: W.R.Printz | Aug 1, 2008 8:58:02 PM

Let's not forget the kind words uttered by Rev Jesse Jackson! Why is it that the Rev's (Wright and Jackson)are out to get Obama? Funny but true!

Posted by: Realist2008 | Aug 1, 2008 8:58:00 PM

Jschmidt, if you believe Democrats are evil and responsible for everything bad in America, I really encourage you to read more. Both parties have their strengths and weaknesses, that's how our democracy "checks and balances" itself. That is also why people are voting more Democratic this year, b/c it is time for a change.

Posted by: Low Road Express | Aug 1, 2008 8:55:56 PM

Low Rider- The Dems have ruined the country with their anti-business , tax and spend policies. They think the voters are not wise to their lies. They've kept GOP bills for oil drilling off the floor of the House. Pelosi has allowed criminals to keep their positions when she promised ethics rules to be enforced. The do not care about high gas and oil prices as long as they keep getting their campaign contribitions from environemtnalists. The will regulated everything to the detriment of our economy. Dems need to be voted out and Obama needs to be defeated.

Posted by: jschmidt | Aug 1, 2008 8:53:30 PM

PhillyPaul, Obama has never talked about white guilt in his life, why are you so obsessed about it. Economy, war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you want to focus on his race and racial politics of the 80s. Move on, buddy, please. The country will be better for it when we stop interjecting race and so-called reverse racism-baiting into politics.

Posted by: Low Road Express | Aug 1, 2008 8:52:44 PM

Speaking of democrats blocking oil bills, even a bunch of democrats were in DC at a press conference RAILING against Pelosi and other dems who WON'T EVEN ALLOW A VOTE ON THE FLOOR....

It's pretty bad when even other democrats see through their own party's fraud.

Posted by: Jo | Aug 1, 2008 8:50:30 PM

A black man saying he is black is not injecting racism it's talking fact. A campaign responding to fact by calling it the race card is injecting racism into the campaign. Let us not forget the Britney/Paris blondes opposite Obama and what the Tennessee Republicans did to Harold Ford in the last Senate campaign when they smeared the black (there's that word again)candidate with a suggestive blonde looking into the camera and speaking to him seductively. Subliminal racism anyone? It worked in Tennessee, it's not going to work this time.

Posted by: morefromLA | Aug 1, 2008 8:48:49 PM

You and your polls. You must be a fool to believe in polls. We have millions and millions of registered voters in this country, and you want to tell me that views of about a thousand(atimes 600 or less) individuals represents the views of millions of registered voters. Polls have been proven wrong on multiple occasions, it is nothing but a voodoo/speculation by individuals that have nothing serious to do. That's why I don't believe in them no matter who is ahead in the so called polls, be it obama or mccain! Wait for november and we will be in a position to know who is who.

Posted by: Dew5050 | Aug 1, 2008 8:48:46 PM

Jo,

Stating you are reading things from all sides, and offering no proof other than half-right, yet misleading lies means you convince only your own brand of kool-aid drinkers.

Typical tactics of political hacks on both sides.

W.R.

Posted by: W.R.Printz | Aug 1, 2008 8:48:45 PM

Jo, I thought you said you were informed. McCain actually appeared in videos for the Vietcong, but the so-calledl liberal media doesn't acknowledge that he was broken.

Posted by: Low Road Express | Aug 1, 2008 8:48:05 PM

Bob, well since the democrat controlled congress has a 9% approval rating, it looks like people would rather elect another republican over a democrat.

Democrat congress DREAMs of Bush approval ratings. Lol.

Posted by: Jo | Aug 1, 2008 8:47:54 PM