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Obama Uses "He" Pronoun When Discussing His VP

August 19, 2008 8:18 PM

RALEIGH, NC -- Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, is almost always diligent about saying "he or she" when discussing his potential running mate.

But at a lively town hall meeting in the Tarheel State Tuesday evening, the senator -- who is expected to announce his vice presidential pick at the end of this week -- used a decidedly male pronoun.

Asked what his plan is to utilize his vice president as President Bush utilized his, Obama said, "Let me tell you first what I won’t do. I won’t hand over my energy policy to my vice president, without knowing necessarily what he’s doing."

What HE'S doing. Could be a reference to Vice President Dick Cheney -- to whom Obama is clearly alluding.

But, as I said, Obama is usually pretty careful about saying "he or she." And surely it hasn't escaped anyone's noticed that despite references to dark horse candidates such as Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, or Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, all three finalists -- Sens. Evan Bayh of Indiana and Joe Biden of Delaware, Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine -- are male.

"My vice president also will be a member of the executive branch," Obama continued, "he won't be one of these fourth branches of government where he thinks he’s above the law."

He gave other criteria which were gender-neutral.

But for those political junkies out there looking for clues -- it's quite possible Obama just dropped one.

-- Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

August 19, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (226)

User Comments

I'm not an Obama supporter, but I can readily admit that the Obama team has been very intelligent and has handled this race exceedingly well. It is with that thought in mind that I say that Biden is the logical choice for VP. He's smart, he's a straight-talker, he has foreign policy experience, and he can give Obama some credibility.

On the downside, he completely flies in the face of the items Obama's been touting - he voted for the war and he is representative of a long political career. He also is clearly ego-centric, which Obama recently stated is something he's not interested in.

I have to say that I was a Biden supporter before he dropped out of the primary, at which time I switched to Clinton's side. Now I have no use for either of them, frankly. I've lost all respect for those who support a candidate for president who is completely unqualified and unable to lead our country. So to me, as a former Clinton supporter, it wouldn't matter if he chose her or Biden or some shmuck he pulls off the street - I'm voting McCain.

Posted by: Deidra | Aug 21, 2008 8:10:02 AM

For those of you who choose to call Hillary supporters "sore-losers," I think you had better take another gander at the polls. I think we were the ones who had it right in the first place; it is your guy BHO who cannot not even gain a solid double digit lead over a "fossil," as someone so eloquently put it, in a year where the Democrats should be cleaning house. I think a lot of you are starting to realize that you supported the wrong guy but you are to tender hearted to admit it! Oh well, there's always 2012 when a REAL Democrat will run for President and will win!

Hillary 2012

Posted by: NikonOakland | Aug 20, 2008 9:06:18 PM

Anybody, but Hillary. Otherwise, she'll see her entitlement to run the show and Bill Clinton by claiming experience will even attempt to get the chair back in the oval room. Enough with them or let grandpa McCane take over.

Posted by: Bill | Aug 20, 2008 8:35:27 PM

McCain 08/Hillary 12...nice fantasy for the sore losers and bitter enders. If Hillary is perceived as having helped defeat a fellow Democratic, she won't stand a chance in hell of being nominated in 2012. Speaking as a New Yorker, she might not even be able hold onto her Senate seat.

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You do realize the state of NY is bigger than the city of NY dont you. Brooklyn is a very small part of a big state..

Posted by: Patti | Aug 20, 2008 7:44:59 PM

JD: There were at least 2 terrorist attacks on US soil during Clinton. The World Trade Center bombing by radical Muslims. Everyone involved was rounded up and put in jail. Then there was the Oklahoma City bombing by a Republican. McVeigh and Nichols were arrested, but there never was any good investigation into how high their connections went. I'm not saying Gingrich or Cheney were involved, but I never heard them deny it or speak out against the attacks.

Since 9/11, there have been a few attacks. Nothing like 9/11, but there was the anthrax attacks, attacks on the green zone, and Bush will tell us every time an Iraqi shot a gun it was a terrorist attack on the US. So, it's hardly accurate to say there have been no terrorist attacks since 9/11

Posted by: Denver Dave | Aug 20, 2008 1:39:23 PM

I'm sick of the whole thing. Am beginning to feel "used" by the Obama campaign. This is dragging on and on and one begins to feel less enthused and more angry about the way they are going to email you the vp choice....just to get more names and more money. I feel duped and disgusted!

He needs to pick Hillary, he's down in the polls, took a stupid vacation, stuttered his way through the conversation on Saturday night and will pprobably pick another light weight for his running mate. I WAS EXCITED about this guy and never really supported Hillary, but unfortunately, he needs her.

I'm bored and disgusted with the whole hiped up nonsense. It's getting old.

Posted by: Peg | Aug 20, 2008 1:08:34 PM

I think Hillary dumped Obama, not the other way around, because she wants to campaign in 2012. Kathleen Sebelius? I dunno. She might like her current job as is. That leaves the guys. In that case, I'm more interested in who McCain picks as a running mate, given that I don't know very much about the three men on Obama's alleged short list.

Posted by: America | Aug 20, 2008 12:35:30 PM

Means nothing. He'll probably flipflop to "she" tomorrow.

Posted by: marylou | Aug 20, 2008 9:52:42 AM

How anyone can talk about voting for McCain is beyond me. A man that leaves his wife and two kids for another woman is definitely not qualified to lead. How can anyone vote for someone that voted against a holiday for a man that gave his life trying to get basic civil rights for others. If McCain becomes president we are in for a longer four years than the eight we're already in.

Posted by: Alfonso | Aug 20, 2008 9:42:36 AM

McCain 08/Hillary 12...nice fantasy for the sore losers and bitter enders. If Hillary is perceived as having helped defeat a fellow Democratic, she won't stand a chance in hell of being nominated in 2012. Speaking as a New Yorker, she might not even be able hold onto her Senate seat.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | Aug 20, 2008 8:54:35 AM

Nick - don't start whining about Hillary, it makes you look childish. The facts remain: The Primaries are over. Hillary Lost. Barack Won. And due to the sneaky, snide, off-handed remarks she and Bill have been making about Barack since Hillary lost the primaries, I wouldn't want a Clinton in my administration either. It's bad enough that the Clintons have weaseled their way into the convention like it's "all about them." Hillary will never get my vote if she ever attempts another run for the whitehouse. NEVER.

OBAMA 08/12

Posted by: Debbie, Columbia, SC | Aug 20, 2008 8:35:54 AM

Obama's first "Challange" were the Clintons.....and what did he do ??? He caved in and let the Clintons rule the democratic convention. Hillary was all washed up and still kept spending and spending and now wants Obama to pay her bills.....will he ??? And what about this Senator from Indiana ???? A Stone cold Hillary supporter and yet he is being considered to be Obama's VP ?????
From my point of view, seems like Obama is kissing a lot of Clinton Booty....Can't have the Clinton's calling the shots......my vote will now be for McCain.

Posted by: Dave Peck | Aug 20, 2008 7:47:08 AM

McCain for 2016' oh, wait the guy is a fossil.

Posted by: JD | Aug 20, 2008 5:59:14 AM

"Give President Bush a little credit for the fact that the US has not had another 9/11 and maybe the interrogation techniques used had gitmo may have had something to do with that fact."
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Another 9/11? Exactly how many attacks were perpetrated on US soil (continental US that is) before 9/11? Yup you got it 1 and only 1 (unless you want to include Pearl Harbor). So in 232 years there have been 2 or possibly 3 attacks on the US by terrorists but Republicans want you to believe that we live in Israel and they are going to happen weekly.

I'll give Bush credit for vacationing and dismissing the intelligence which if acted on may have stopped the attacks. Bush gets credit for doing little aside from killing soldiers for oil and permitting Osama Bin LAden to run free because if captured he would have no excuse to run roughshot over the world............. one has to be ither blind or just plain ignorant not to see it.

Now we have McCain saying he won't sleep until he captures Osama Bin Laden? Where have you been the past 7 years McCain? Now that you're running for President and it makes a good soundbite you care about Bin Laden? You've done and said nothing to make that a reality yet we're suppossed to trust your record and experience? The only experience I see is a record of caring more about iraqi oil than American soldiers or Osama Bin Laden. Who does this man think he's kidding?......... aside from the mindless uneducated religious righties?

Posted by: dk | Aug 20, 2008 4:11:14 AM


If republicans chose Bush over McCain in 2000 because Bush was best of the two. Now the best candiddate of 2000 Mr Bush leaves us in this terrible state.

What should we expect from the second Best candidate of 2000. (logically, your expectations of MCCain should be lower than what you expected from Bush, which is more pity).


Thats pure Logic no reasoning.


Posted by: Sai | Aug 20, 2008 3:11:35 AM

McCain 2008!!!!!

Posted by: Sue | Aug 20, 2008 2:07:15 AM

He or She, I am still voting for McCain. McCain 2008!!!

Posted by: al4mcattack | Aug 20, 2008 1:52:20 AM

I didn't realize the blog on ABC's website bled so red. What is wrong with you people?

Do you not realize the past 8 years have been hell for us Americans. Our gas is higher than ever, innocent people are dying in Iraq -- a war of lies, the federal budget deficit is greater then it ever has been, our health crisis is absurd, the taxes levied to the rich are unfair compared to the rate of the poor, the unemployment rate is sky high, and the housing crisis has struck nationwide. Explain to me: where do you get off putting down Senator Obama -- a man who wants to try something new to revive the country. Where do you get off supporting McCain, who has sided with GW Bush on nearly ever governmental failure in the past 8 years.

For the sanctity of this nation and for the future of our children, we need Barack Obama as our president.

Obama '08.

Posted by: Jon | Aug 20, 2008 1:48:59 AM

The question is are you in much better shape than you were eight year ago.

Posted by: gman | Aug 20, 2008 1:37:06 AM

No Hillary, no vote from me. She clearly earned it and if he can't be trusted to do the right thing with her then he can't be trusted to do anything. I'll write her in as a write-in vote. He obviously doesn't need us Hillary supporters to vote for us- he thinks he can win anyway. Good luck- he'll need it!

Posted by: nick | Aug 20, 2008 1:16:29 AM

Hey Jim:
Your choice for president finished near the bottom of his class. He wrecked many planes and got captured.Most of his military experience was spent as a POW. We salute his efforts but once he was in the Senate, he voted 99% Bush on policies when he was at the meetings, which was sparingly to say the least. He deserted his ailing wife and children without looking back. He was caught up in th Keating Five Scandal and got off with a slap on the wrist, even though he was guilty as sin. (Cindy's money helped). And if you were to put McCain in school for next forty years, he would not gain the intellect and fortitude that Senator Obama has. Senator Obama is methodical thinker and make decisons based on the facts about a situation and McCain is a warmonger who says attack first and then find out what is really going on in any given situation later.McCain is a loser and a liar and has always felt that he had something to prove to his father and grandfather who were Admirals. In that vein, McCain cannot wait to get into Presidential seat so that he can start more wars, allow more American soldiers to be killed so that he can thumb his nose at his father and grandfather, as if to say I made it. I am the POTUS so I did better than you guys did. Even though they propped him up for years and quietly kicked doors open for him that people with his I.Q. would never been abe to get through. And at the same time, Cindy's money and political contacts helped to boost him up the political ladder that would would have otherwise been out of his reach. He has no more experience in running this country than Senator Obama. He does have the experience in losing planes and finally getting shot down and being a POW. These are not the qualifications that make for a qualified President. Although Barack Obama has not personally been in the military, he is far more versed and knowlegable about the situations in foreign policy, the economy and health care etc. Senator Obama has leadership qualities and the intellect to help pull this country out of the mess that Bush and the likes of McCain has put this country in for the last 8 years. He also has the intelligence to consult with experts on situations and McCain does not listen to his advisers. I cannot believe that any sane adult who has had to live with yhe mess the Republicans put this country, could even entertain the thought of another 4-8 years of this madness. You think Bush trashed this country, just wait and see if McCain gets in, we will be in so many wars our country will look much like Iraq and the other was torn countries. So, say goodbye to everything you have taken for granted for so long, such as freedom, the America Dream and a healthy future and economy for our future generation.

Posted by: pdyoung | Aug 20, 2008 1:12:40 AM

Sherry, Republicans are not "torture lovers". Republicans love their Nation just like you do, I assume, and are doing what they can to help prevent another 9/11. In case you forgot, Al Qaeda murdered over 3000 people on 9/11 and have vowed to kill millions more if they get half a chance. Give President Bush a little credit for the fact that the US has not had another 9/11 and maybe the interrogation techniques used had gitmo may have had something to do with that fact. Just don't take the fact the US has not had a another 9/11 for granted. If Obama gets elected and implements the much looser security policies Obam is talking about there could wery well be another 9/11. Oh well, another 9/11 but all you Obama supporters can feel oh so much more morally superior I guess.

Posted by: mary | Aug 20, 2008 1:09:52 AM

Kathy; you see what hypocrites they are willing to vote for man who polices are killing our young men and women in a unjust war.

Posted by: gman | Aug 20, 2008 1:05:28 AM

Food fro thought. If the Navy Brass found that John McCain wasn't fit for promotion to the Rank of Admiral, what makes him fit to be the "Commander in Chief", President?????????"
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If McCain had chosen to stay in the Navy, he would have BEEN an Admiral!

DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!!!

Posted by: EYES OPENING | Aug 20, 2008 1:03:55 AM

I am ready to vote for John McCain because Obama mentioned "he". He is very obvious macho for seemingly not choosing a woman as a vp.

Posted by: Lloyd | Aug 20, 2008 1:03:19 AM

But they would vote for someone who will put their sons or daughters in harms way,plus he is immoral.

Posted by: gman | Aug 20, 2008 12:51:04 AM

Mary,

I see your point about the theoretical you propose. I just disagree that it applies to what the Republican torture lovers actually did.

Posted by: sherry | Aug 20, 2008 12:50:06 AM

Kathy, Obama voted against a bill that would save the life of a baby born alive after an abortion. That makes me sick to my stomach and I never would vote for anyone who would let a baby die. What about you?

Posted by: gray | Aug 20, 2008 12:48:08 AM

Regarding, "In fact, I doubt Obama could pass a security review if he wanted to be a member of the FBI or other government agency," we do not really know enough to make that conclusion. But we do know McCain is immoral because he wants to continue to torture people in Guantanamo. While McCain is out there defeating evil and starting wars, it might not always be best for our country in the long run. I think maybe we should go a different direction for a while, although I share the concern that Obama is a little weak on defense. The biggest concern is that he might overreact to something due to political concerns. But Obama is pretty smart, and I think in the end he will keep us safer than the "war is all I know" guy (McCain).

Posted by: sherry | Aug 20, 2008 12:44:47 AM

McCain cheated on his first wife and left her and the kids for a woman 25 years younger than him, he makes me sick.

Posted by: Kathy | Aug 20, 2008 12:41:58 AM

Sherry,

The people in Guantanamo are not being "tortured". What I would ask you, is if your child's life was at sake and the only way to get the information necessary to save your child's life was via the interrogation methods used at Gitmo, what would you do? I suppose in your case you would let your child die so you could feel morally superior.

Posted by: mary | Aug 20, 2008 12:37:58 AM

Harry...you said it....what boggles my mind is how could anyone have got this far along, as Obama has. If he were white, with all the same background would he be where he is today? Serious question...someone give me an answer.

Posted by: Debra | Aug 20, 2008 12:31:37 AM

Churchill,

Here is your answer:

Obama is for the redistribution of wealth via higher taxes because he thinks that is the "fair" thing to do, not because it will raise revenue.

Obama wants to spend a trillion dollars on government welfare programs that will force people to do what he tells them to do before they see a penny of the money Obama has confiscated from the private sector.

The wealth redistribution plan that takes money from the private sector will destroy the private sector economy and make one of the most economically rich nations in the history of the world into a third world Nation.

Obama is against drilling for our own oil here, against building new refineries, against nuclear power plants In Obama/s own words "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.

"That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," he added.

Obama will weaken our military in very dangerous times, Obama: "First, I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president, I will end it.
Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending. I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems. I will not weaponize space. I will slow our development of future combat systems...and I will institute an independent Defense Priorities Board to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.
Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal I will not develop new nuclear weapons...I will seek a global ban on the development of fissile material...and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off of hair-trigger alert...and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals."


Obama has no experience that would qualify him to be President

Obama's long time friends and associates include crooks, unrepentant domestic terrorists and anti-Americans. In fact, I doubt Obama could pass a security review if he wanted to be a member of the FBI or other government agency.

The above is just a partial list of very real concerns with an Obama Pesidency. What is amazing to me is that anyone with any common sense would even think of voting for Obama.

Posted by: harry | Aug 20, 2008 12:25:51 AM

McCain voted for the continuation of the torture in Guantanamo. I do not think anyone there had a nuke. So if you support McCain, you support torture of people who do not seriously threaten the U.S. Therefore, you yourself are a torture enabler. How proud you must be. McCain's new slogan: "Torture First."

Posted by: sherry | Aug 20, 2008 12:25:05 AM

Debra-That explains a lot. I get my info. from non-partisan, numerous reputable sources and do a great deal of legislative research. You get your information from sitcom disguised as a news organization. Good luck to you.

Posted by: Jennifer | Aug 20, 2008 12:23:07 AM

Jennifer...I just got thru watching a one hour bio on McCain on FOX (saw Obama's last night) and you won't be able to test me on McCain's patriotism...sorry. I'm willing to bet many more Americans with me on this one. McCan has only SERVED THIS COUNTRY FOR OVER 50 YEARS....Nobama can't compete in the service department. Now self-service....is another story.

Posted by: Debra | Aug 20, 2008 12:18:58 AM

Of course, Obama used the he pronoun because in both quotes about some one creating a fourth branch of government and running the energy policy, he was clearly referring to Cheney.

Posted by: kat | Aug 20, 2008 12:18:14 AM

Obama doesn't scare me so much....only if he become POTUS! I'd like him to go back to the Senate and put in more time than 143 days.

Posted by: Debra | Aug 20, 2008 12:13:50 AM

sherry,

McCain is on record against torture, which I disagree with. I say, if a nuke is about to hit New York it would be immoral to let millions of people die because you think torture is wrong.

Posted by: mary | Aug 20, 2008 12:09:37 AM

All these jaundiced and opinionated commentators.
What is at about Obama that scares you so much? This man has a wife and two lovely daughters. He has family that he loves too. Why these nonsensical fear mongering about his patriotism?

Posted by: Churchill | Aug 20, 2008 12:02:08 AM

I know a certain "he" who showed interest in the VP spot back in April....Rev. Jeri Wright! What do ya think?

Posted by: Debra | Aug 20, 2008 12:01:45 AM

Sherry,

What's your point? Are you trying to compare Russia's invasion of Georgia to actions America may have taken (according to you) over a hundred years ago? Some people might even say you are a propaganda tool of the Russians. However since you seem to think so poorly of America, just like Obama and his wife seems to think, I am sure you could go live in Russia and live there very happily.

Posted by: yale | Aug 19, 2008 11:59:06 PM


Debra.

You're right....COUNTRY FIRST.
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Posted by: Nicholas | Aug 19, 2008 11:57:51 PM

McCain is a patriot who prefers low taxes.

Obama is a liberal intellectual who has never met a tax he didn't like.

Posted by: HawkTheSlayer | Aug 19, 2008 11:57:12 PM

Jennifer, I want a President who loves this country more than himself, who has a history of serving it (and 100 years of service from his family before him), and one I can TRUST to not associate with America haters, so I can put my head on my pillow and night knowing a Patriot is at the helm. COUNTRY FIRST!
McCain '08/Hillary '12

Posted by: Debra | Aug 19, 2008 11:51:40 PM

Do we really know the history of the Georgia border areas enough to agree with McCain How bad Russia is behaving? Is it like the Gadsden purchase where the U.S bought a little piece of Mexico to run a southern railroad?

Posted by: sherry | Aug 19, 2008 11:50:16 PM

Debra-You first. Please provide us with policies of McCain, past voting record and legislation that has convinced you he is your candidate. You may not use the word Hillary in your argument.

Posted by: Jennifer | Aug 19, 2008 11:45:59 PM

William at 10:38, I posted earlier that McCain's divorce was not hush hush, it's in his book and well documented. However....how many "hush-hush" subjects do we have with Obama (not to mention his inability to kick cigarettes)....how involved with drugs was he, how close is he with terriorist Ayers, and criminal Rezko, who will be sentenced Sept. 2....please, let's not use the words "hush hush" against McCain when Obama wins hands down in that department.

Posted by: Debra | Aug 19, 2008 11:42:30 PM

The Democratic party will continue to suffer, decade after decade, until each state can pick its maximum number of pregnancy weeks for abortion rights. I believe the supreme court would honor a congressional law, signed by the president, allowing state lattitude in this way.

Posted by: sherry | Aug 19, 2008 11:41:22 PM


Obama has no military experience so bringing up McCain's military experience only highlights this fact. As to Obama's experience:

As a community organizer, the only project Obama could possibly take any credit for are decaying slums.

As the politically-elected editor of the Harvard Law Review, Obama did not write a single article.

As a University of Chicago law professor, Obama did not author a single scholarly article.

Obama refuses to make public the details of the legal work for which he billed at the law firm that represented Tony Rezko.

As an Illinois State Senator, all Obama did was vote "present," and the bills he claims to have passed were given to him by Chicago political fixer Emil Jones.
Oh I forgot, Obama also voted against a bill that would save the life of a baby born alive after an abortion.

As a freshman United States Senator, Obama was in the Senate for a total of 141 days and never even convened a meeting of the Subcommittee he was assigned to Chair.

Obama is unfit to be President.

Posted by: Jim | Aug 19, 2008 11:37:26 PM

I don't think any VP is going to be able to help Obama.

Posted by: chattyway | Aug 19, 2008 11:36:21 PM

Can someone just tell me, if there were a poll, what would the majority of Obama supporters say they are voting for him......because.....?
Really someone tell me the #1 reason BO supporters are voting for him.

Posted by: Debra | Aug 19, 2008 11:35:56 PM


Who cares about Obama's VP.......
Obama will be the next member to
join the losers CLUB after the november
elections......
Hey...DNC...deal with it.....
I'm a democrat voting republican in
november......
Democrats lose every 4 years....
ARE THEY EVER LEARN?????????????

Posted by: Nicholas | Aug 19, 2008 11:35:45 PM

Thanks to my crystal ball, I know who the next President will be. Surely, he will be a lot different from any past president. Can any one read this hint? By the way, the VP will be a lot diffrrent too!

Posted by: saif1028 | Aug 19, 2008 11:34:42 PM

Obama voted against a bill in Illinois that would save the life of a baby born alive after an abortion than lied about why he voted against the bill. Obama said the reason he voted against the bill was because it did not contain the wording necessary to protect Roe vs Wade. Fact is the aforementioned wording was in the bill and Obama still voted against the bill. I do not think Jesus would vote for a guy who would vote against a bill that would save the life of a baby. Once I found out about this I do not understand how anyone who claims to be a Christian could ever vote for Obama.

Posted by: terry | Aug 19, 2008 11:29:54 PM

Where is the "certified copy of birth certificate" for Obama? This is a constitutional requirement.

Posted by: sherry | Aug 19, 2008 11:29:34 PM

Obama being secretive is par for the course. Obama is so secretive about so many things one wonders what Obama is hiding?
A partial list of documents the Obama campaign has declined to make available: Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Harvard University records, medical records, Illinois State Senate records, certified copy of birth certificate, Selective Service registration, law practice client list, undergraduate thesis, SAT and LSAT scores, law school application. Yeah, they're a veritable font of information and a model of transparency. What the heck are they hiding?

The most recent group of documents that are being withheld from the public are records related to Obama's work on the Annenberg Challenge, a non profit group linked to William Ayers, an unrepentant domestic terrorist. Per The San Francisco Chronicle:


"The University of Illinois on Tuesday refused to release records relating to Barack Obama's service to a nonprofit group linked to former 1960s radical activist William Ayers.

The university's Chicago campus said the donor of the records that document the work of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge has not yet turned over ownership rights to the material."

First off, I did not know that there was an "owner" of a non profits documents. The documents by law should be available to the public. So what is the University of Illinois trying to hide and does it have any thing to do with the fact Ayers is one of their professors? Just hope no one is in the process of destroying the documents.

Posted by: gary | Aug 19, 2008 11:24:13 PM

If Obama WERE choosing Hillary, I doubt he would be lame minded enough to refer to the VP as HER anyway.

Seeing as how they plan to generate enormous media buzz (for example, this silly article)and hence free coverage on Saturday by keeping it secret and the guy says she? Even if it is Hillary on the ticket, Obama would never be so stupid.

This article is stupid.

Posted by: Jen | Aug 19, 2008 11:24:13 PM

Why does MSNBC find room for this kind of trivial fluff piece and doesn't even mention Obama's critical responses to McCain's continuous character smears?

Posted by: VJB | Aug 19, 2008 11:17:31 PM

I am a typical American who think through a situation before making a decision. McCain is the better man because he know how to pick a fight and start a war..and wars are good for the economy. All Obama talk about is strengthening the economy and world peace. Who needs world peace! Who needs a strong economy! Lets fight some wars and McCain is better than the O man. Lets show the world who is boss. Its all about Military power not economic power. McCain said the other day that he does not know much about the economy..why should he know! Like McCain I don't care about the economy. Its about showing China,North Korea, Iran and the others whose the real boss. McCain is a strong leader because he was a war man..Obama do not know any thing about wars..So when McCain gets in there he will start a war because he knows that we smart/wise Americans would not change the Government while in the midst of a war=two terms for the Macman. See how he cares about the country? There you go! That is why I am voting for McCain. Some of you readers are probably saying that I am stupid..know what! you are right but I am voting with the majority of Americans who are stupid and we are voting for McCain because its all about war and strong military..The military talk wins all the time with most American voters and as a result McCain will win in November. Oh! how smart we Americans are! Now can someone please hand me my glass of spiked koolaid? Thank you very much! Now you can go and vote for Obama. You loser!

Posted by: Stanley | Aug 19, 2008 11:16:59 PM

everytime I turn around, Obama is shouting out how the American people are hurting and he, the "Messiah" is going to swoop down and "save" us, yet people can afford to pay $500-$2000 to see him at an event? What is wrong with this picture? America is actually the richest country in the world. The average dwelling of the American poor person has more square footage than the average overall residence in every European nation. We have more TV's, cars and computers, yet we still find something to complain about. Obama is trying to guilt us into voting for him. What more can he do, really? We have a welfare system in place, unemployment benefits, stimulus checks, etc. The Republican party has not taken these away, but, if you listen to Obama, McCain will take away every social program and your first born child!

Posted by: S Adams | Aug 19, 2008 11:13:31 PM

And Obama just lost any chance of getting my vote... night night!

McCain/Palin 2008
Hillary 2012

Posted by: Eric | Aug 19, 2008 11:12:22 PM

I'm voting for the man i believe Jesus would vote for. Obama 2008, not just good for america, but also good for the world.

Posted by: Trace Johnson | Aug 19, 2008 11:11:06 PM

can't support a nobody, they supported bush and that's definitly an nobody,mcsame voted 95%of the bush polices, if walk like duck sound a duck it must be a duck!

Posted by: gman | Aug 19, 2008
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You can vote 100% with Bush on those mundane legislations, but when it comes to liberty and things matter, it becomes a true test.

Zero-bama voted for Cheney's energy bill that gives the big oil tax credits that you 0-bama boneheads decry about today. It is your Political Jesus who supported it, whereas HRC and McCain both voted against it.

Zero-bama first deceived you by promising you that he would vote against and filabuster if necessary Bush's spying bill. Yet, after he knew he did not need your votes, he voted to take your liberty and Constitutional rights away, by giving Bush's government the power to psy on you without warrant.

McCain and HRC voted against Bush's spy bill.

Who has the right judgment? You decide, if you have any and are not blind.

Posted by: Jokerous | Aug 19, 2008 11:07:35 PM

Debbie-McCain voted to cover Viagra, but not cover birth control. Yes, its available, but thanks to McCain - often not affordable to many. Also, the abortion argument is absurd as the two sides are not even arguing the same thing. You can be pro-choice and anti-abortion. I won't tell you what to do with your body and you don't tell me what to do with mine.

Posted by: Jennifer | Aug 19, 2008 11:07:21 PM

I can understand people find qualities they like in a candidate and vote for he or she. What I don't understand is women who vote for the rights of the womb over substance. Women are afforded many types of birth control. We even have the morning after pill. When the desire to kill over-rides a mothers natural instinct to protect the unborn, I can understand why Obama is your choice candidate.

I will be voting for Senator McCain regardless of his VP choice. 100 % pro-life voting record!

Posted by: Debbie | Aug 19, 2008 11:01:48 PM

This election is not about change. It is about who can best help our country and the world. McCain would keep running up the debt, and fight as many wars as possible, which could get dangerous. Obama would do what again to help us and the world?

Posted by: sherry | Aug 19, 2008 11:00:45 PM

Jokerous...

I have decided to vote my conscience....

Obama 08

Good night to all.

Posted by: karronna | Aug 19, 2008 10:58:38 PM

To the person who wrote:

McCain/Palin 2008
Hillary 2012

I can see that. Full agreement.

Posted by: Punch | Aug 19, 2008 10:56:11 PM

and Debra,

remember what McCain reminded us at Saddleback "forum": 3 justices could be replaced in the next few years.
so go ahead, sign off on 3 more Clarence Thomas'!!

Posted by: William | Aug 19, 2008 10:55:56 PM

I intend to vote for Obama....unless Hillary is his running mate.I don't want another "Clinton"any where near the White House.

Posted by: orangecat | Aug 19, 2008 10:50:25 PM

bye repubs and fellow Barack supporters.

signing off

Posted by: karronna | Aug 19, 2008 10:49:22 PM

stacy..........yes it is. it is over.

Posted by: eman | Aug 19, 2008 10:49:13 PM

The "he" pronoun leak was probably intentional to gauge responses. Either way, Obama is unfit to lead this country. It's not too late to reconsider.

Posted by: stacy | Aug 19, 2008 10:46:28 PM

Emm,

you say "...Conviction,...and Intergrity..."

interesting choice of words there.
that was some Intergrity and Conviction [of his vows] he showed his first wife. ALSO, so ironic how he loves to talke about his POW time,
but is soo hush-hush about what he did to the Honor of his wife when he got out. Very interesting!

Posted by: William | Aug 19, 2008 10:46:04 PM

It is not good for McCain, but he is aviral man, and people will understand about the paralyzed ex wife.

This comment is regarding prior post: "McCain’s infidelity will come out soon. It is a story that will shock all. John McCain’s 1st wife stood by his side and waited for him while he was a POW. Then when he was released and sent to a Navy Hospital in Hawaii, his 1st wife was involved in a car accident and paralized. What did John McCain do? He went and had an affair with a Navy Nurse in Hawaii and divored his paralized wife. He then married the Navy Nurse.

why is this story being sat on?"

- Undecided

Posted by: sherry | Aug 19, 2008 10:45:28 PM

eman...

it's either women or repubs posing as women to try to sway women....

do they think we're stupid?

If we were - we'd vote McCain for sure.

Posted by: karronna | Aug 19, 2008 10:42:48 PM

They can try to divide and split...but when we get off the blogospheres and talk to people in the community...it's not that way...

Dems ARE rallying behind Obama.

Posted by: karronna | Aug 19, 2008 10:41:38 PM

McCain voted in favor of the bill that included the bear study funding; he was absent for key votes on the Woodstock museum (including one on an amendment he co-sponsored); and he never specifically tried to eliminate the bridge earmark and missed some crucial votes on that one, as well.

Whatever happened to truth in advertising?

Posted by: Mike | Aug 19, 2008 10:41:14 PM

Glenman,

I just did a LexisNexis and Google search on this phrase. Nothing even close. Please provide credible attribution.

>>"If we want to establish an American empire, we're going to have to use nuclear weapons on our enemies" --John McCain<<

Posted by: consultofactus | Aug 19, 2008 10:41:03 PM

William:
Because there is no story. It's old news. Everybody wants to be the "Judge" on something that happened in his past that has no bearing on his ability to effectively lead this country and prevent its falling under the terrorist scourge. No one's perfect (well, maybe Obama, if you're a democrat). Bottom line: Experience, Conviction, Patriotism, and Intergrity is what we should vote on and the clear choice is Sen. McCain.