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Obama v McCain, the Debates to Come
August 14, 2008 9:55 AM
At The Atlantic, James Fallows smartly assesses the two candidates' strengths and weaknesses as debaters.
His big question is why then-state Sen. Barack Obama was so strong, in Fallows' view, in his debates against Ambassador Alan Keyes during his 2004 Senate run, and so cautious and tentative when running for president.
"The Obama who took on the Republican ambassador, perennial presidential candidate, talk-show host, and motormouth Alan Keyes in the Illinois Senate debates of 2004—a relaxed, funny politician unafraid to go jab for jab—differed noticeably from the surprisingly tentative, slow-to-attack candidate who survived but did not triumph through this season’s debates."
- jpt
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re: geeviil
"Obama and liberal supporters see no moral difference between Russia's actions and the US."
... just for my own edification ... what exactly is the 'moral difference' you imply?
Posted by: Tex | Aug 14, 2008 3:40:34 PM
I hope the debates aren't scheduled past mccain's bedtime...
Posted by: pt | Aug 14, 2008 3:32:47 PM
I can't remember, who was the candidate that said "um, ah, well, ok, um, maybe, um ah" in the last debate? Was it Obama?
Posted by: Chris | Aug 14, 2008 3:10:56 PM
US troops deployed overseas are donating six times as much money to Obama than they are to McCain.
"We all know that Iraq was a big mistake"
Posted by: Mike | Aug 14, 2008 2:51:20 PM
The fact that Obama is a gentleman and was debating a woman and was more mindful than his opponent on party unity made him less willing to be aggressive.
McCain's ads and smwears has motivated him and he will do extremely well!
Posted by: lynn | Aug 14, 2008 2:49:02 PM
I think we'll see more of the Senate race Obama in the debates with McCain. He had to be cautious in the primary because he was debating a woman--look how hard he got beat up for the "likeable enough" line. If he went easy on her he was being condescending, if he was tough he was a bully. He won't have to navigate that line this time.
Posted by: CJ | Aug 14, 2008 2:11:43 PM
Obama and his supporters manipulating party caucuses for extra delegates is a show of excellent Unity
Posted by: puffer cone | Aug 14, 2008 2:09:37 PM
01.20.2009 The End of an "ERROR".
Posted by: pt | Aug 14, 2008 2:09:04 PM
Obama and liberal supporters see no moral difference between Russia's actions and the US. Which is why we will be saying President McCain next January.
Posted by: geevill | Aug 14, 2008 1:58:54 PM
Clinton's name will be put in nomination at convention
If she wins it will be a 3 for 1 victory. We will get rid of Obama, Peloci, and Harry Reed and the debate will be between Hillary and John McCain.
Posted by: Vote Hillary | Aug 14, 2008 1:41:31 PM
not to put too fine a point on common sense issues,..but.... I've always wondered which candidates really believe (no Nixonian pun intended) that if America does it it's all right but if another country does the exact same thing, it's a threat to the world.... sort of the modern 'my country right or wrong' theory..
although the many reasons given for the U.S. involvement in Iraq are different now then originally offered by Pres. Bush,.. the result as with the Russian incursion into Georgia are the same.... one country uses it's forces in another for political solutions....
would love to hear both candidates speak on that......
Posted by: Tex | Aug 14, 2008 12:58:19 PM
remember countries dont invade other countries in the 21st century
LOL
who here stands behind this mccain comment?
Posted by: bhrandon | Aug 14, 2008 12:51:13 PM
McCain may have his senior moments ('In the 21st century, nations don't invade other nations'), but the McMedia will cover for him, so it doesn't matter.
Posted by: Mike | Aug 14, 2008 12:40:38 PM
re: D'Obama
"If - finally - Obama is asked the questions he hasn't answered (relationships w/ shady figures, his abortion positions, his Marxist-tax policies),"
well,.... there certainly are a lot of questions that could be asked of McCain also, working with Ralph Reed, marital affairs & abandonment of his 1st wife,, campaign staff that are the biggest lobbyists in D.C....Phil Graham..and with very little effort a large list of seeming 'flip-flops' he usually can't remember that he spoke about... McCain's pat answers about 'America' as a response to everything he's asked that is uncomfortable for him at some point will not be enough.
and just to be fair.... there are a lot of things Obama needs to clear up policy wise,..
but as you can see, if one wants to dish the dirt on meaningless issues there is more than enough to go around for all concerned in both parties.
Posted by: Tex | Aug 14, 2008 12:37:52 PM
D'Obama,
We'll see about that. Without his notes and a phony Repub stacked "town hall" John McCain will turn into an angry gaffe machine.
You can just bet the Obama team is already coming up with all kinds of points/themes to get that old guys goat and get him to lose his temper and explode!
Obama is going to wipe the floor with McSurge....
Obama '08!!!!
Posted by: Davis | Aug 14, 2008 12:31:01 PM
I think all Democrats should sue John Edwards for all the campaign contributions to be returned
Posted by: puffer cone | Aug 14, 2008 12:16:22 PM
You people are kidding yourselves if you think Obama will walk all over McCain. W/out a teleprompter, Obama folds into a rash of pauses, and "ya-knows" and says things like, if we only gave a kid w/ asthma a "breathalizer." McCain isn't a great speaker, but if they really get down to facts and real policy decisions, there is a real opening for McCain! If - finally - Obama is asked the questions he hasn't answered (relationships w/ shady figures, his abortion positions, his Marxist-tax policies), McCain could gain.
Posted by: D'Obama | Aug 14, 2008 11:53:46 AM
Alan Keyes is a nutjob who earns a living running as a black Republican. He is and never was a serious candidate.
Posted by: geevill | Aug 14, 2008 11:48:50 AM
Ifill is a personal friend of Rice, and Scheiffer of Bush. I dont think Obama should have agreed to any of these debates.
If you remember 2000, Gore cleaned Bush's clocks, according to the public opinion polls of the debate, but the talking heads liked Bush better, and they kept yammering about him winning until everyone forgot what really happened.
Posted by: Mike | Aug 14, 2008 11:47:11 AM
One flaw with Fallows' argument: on the one hand, he says that Keyes is considered a good debater; on the other hand, he states that McCain is a terrible debater. Why then is it smart for Obama to treat McCain like Keyes if they are so different? I think if Obama dismisses McCain quickly or with attitude, he will perhaps come across as too callous and condescending. I think it is best for Obama to let McCain dig his own grave. No need to kick a dead horse while its down.
ptu
Posted by: ptu | Aug 14, 2008 11:09:57 AM
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