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Ooooh, That Smell. Can’t You Smell That Smell?

August 15, 2008 10:03 AM

Democrats are pounding Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., on the August 18 Georgia fundraiser for his campaign where he will hang with Ralph Reed, the former head of the Christian Coalition and a figure in the Jack Abramoff sleaze-a-thon.

Indeed, the Dems even released this web video.

Reed earlier this month emailed friends and colleagues, saying he’d joined the "McCain Victory 2008" team, a joint fundraising effort between the McCain campaign and Republican National Committee, and writing, as reported in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “Never in my career can I recall a starker contrast between two major-party nominees for President.”

Though the McCain campaign says Reed has no official role in the fundraier, Democrats have hammered McCain for the fact that he is taking money from Reed, whose PR firm took $4.2 million from Abramoff to gin up Christian opposition to casinos that would have competed with casinos run by the Native Americans whom Abramoff called clients.

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean this week assailed "McCain's decision to cozy up to one of the central figures in the Republican culture of corruption."

I would never compare the Jack Abramoff scandal with the John Edwards one. They are different in scope, sin, and criminality.

But as the Democrats ramp up their Reed rhetoric, there are also questions about a tangential financial supporter of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, as well.

On Monday, we noted that Fred Baron -- the chairman of Edwards' campaign finance committees in both his 2004 and 2008 presidential campaigns -- was not only sending thousands of dollars to Edwards’ mistress Rielle Hunter and others involved in the scandal, he is, according to the Dallas Morning News, "raising money for nominee-to-be Barack Obama."

I asked the Obama campaign if that's appropriate. They have yet to respond.

The New York Times has a closer look at Baron today and how he may have played a role in the legal representation of both Hunter and Andrew Young, the Edwards staffer who claims he's the father of Hunter's baby daughter.

"After initially saying that he did not know how the lawyers were chosen to represent Ms. Hunter and Mr. Young, Mr. Baron acknowledged that he might have played a role," the Times writes. "The revelations of ties among the lawyers emerged through public records and interviews with people close to Mr. Edwards and Ms. Hunter, which suggested that their affair went on longer than Mr. Edwards admitted and that the effort to conceal it by Mr. Edwards’s inner circle was much more extensive than has been reported."

Does it matter to you if Baron raises money for Obama, or if Reed raises money for McCain?

- jpt

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Sounds a quick response time. Both campaigns have to mult-task faster. For example as soon as the Edward scandel hit the media. Does the Obama quick response team throw its resources at this or deal with Jerry Corsi, McCain Attack ads or Georgia & Russia.

McCain doesn't worry about this as we can see hes trying keep the Republican Base and Ralph Reed is still important to him.

Posted by: Tongassberry | Aug 16, 2008 7:54:21 PM

One serious question, does McCain have the lobbyist in his pocket or does the lobbyist have McCain in theirs. McCain is not only tainted with the unehtical practices, he knee deep in influence peddling. "One hand washes the other" or two peas in a pod. With McCain can you be sure that he would choose what is best for America or what his lobbyist friends demand in reapyment?

Obama 08

Posted by: Elitist | Aug 16, 2008 8:19:34 AM

It just proves that Obama is just another politician. Nothing new about him, maybe even worse with all his lies, false certificates, flip-flops, shady Chicago connections, and vile campaign practices.

It was obvious during the primary season that Edwards was in the tank for Obama. Why wouldn't they share the same corrupt ways and means.

Posted by: hype bites | Aug 15, 2008 5:15:06 PM

This is another example of what the right wing really thinks of their supporters. After learning about the Reed/Abramof scam, can anyone really argue that they dont think their followers are rubes and suckers?

Posted by: Mike | Aug 15, 2008 3:56:32 PM

Thank you, thank you, thank you for bringing this to the attention of the world that the Democratic party is beginning to act just like the Republican party. The Republicans had K street and the Dems now have Obama street. He is getting so much money from so many big wash gasbags contributor's lists, so he is no better than the republicans with K street and that scandal. This is why women are so angry with the Democratic party. It is not just about HIllary being mistreated and abandoned and stabbed inthe back. It is about the demise of the party that we grew up and always loved. Our party was supposed to be above this kind of behavior and tactics. This is what we are so angry about. This is why we are voting for John McCain. Because we now feel there is no Democratic party, just two Republican parties, because they are all acting the same way. So, what difference does it really make with regards to who you vote for in November? We are sending the Dems a message they will lose us forever, not just in this election, if they don't clean up their act and stop trying to mimick the Bush and Reagan Republicans and K Street.

Posted by: Mary Anne | Aug 15, 2008 3:08:31 PM

In Oct 2007, Obama held a fundraiser at the offices of Greenberg Traurig, Abramoff's former firm.
Was that bad?

Posted by: MayBee | Aug 15, 2008 2:32:34 PM

Stepping back to look at the Big Picture, it's hard to reconcile the difference between Campaign Finance McCain, and Completely Reliant on Lobbyists McCain.

I don't think he's been put on the hot seat enough over this glaring contridiction in his values now and just a few years ago.

And his chief advisors monetary ties to Georgia is not some small matter. It needs to be aired and discussed. But the media won't of course....

Posted by: BBpd | Aug 15, 2008 1:15:16 PM

Did John McCain try to cover up his numerous affairs on his first wife? Did he lie to his first wife when he was running around with Cindy while still living in the same house with his first wife?

These are the questions that the McCain camp would be faced with if they push the Baron story to counter the Reed fund raiser (assuming they are comparable in the first place - which they are not. Reed betrayed the public trust, Edwards is a private citizen and it would have only been news if he won the party nomination, which he did not).

Posted by: Jonze | Aug 15, 2008 1:12:46 PM

I think that Obama can plausibly claim to not know what Baron was up to until now.

It's harder for McCain to claim that he doesn't know Reed's well-covered background.

Posted by: BBpd | Aug 15, 2008 1:12:02 PM

Mack,

The only arguement is that Obama has SO MUCH INFORMATION that he has to sift through it all?

You would rather have the president make decisions based on a few scraps of information?

Besides, as editor of Harvard Law Newspaper, while getting his degree, I'm sure he found a way to balance alot of work and decision making.

On the other hand, 300 advisors for McCain would probably cause him to have a stoke. He would have trouble remembering names let alone understanding what they are all talking about.

Posted by: Tim | Aug 15, 2008 1:00:40 PM

Reed is dirty as they come and McCain going near him shows you just how far McCain has strayed from any moral standings he once had.

McCain cosying up to Reed could be a boon for Barr Barr in Georgia come Nov. 4th.

Posted by: Jonze | Aug 15, 2008 12:58:12 PM

"Ever hear the phrase garbage in garbage out? I don't want a president that has to hear and sift through information from 300 advisors before he can make a decision. Why not just elect those 301(including George Looney) advisors? We are electing a president based on his qualifications and ability to lead. I guess with Barry we would just be getting a empty figure head.
BTW - are Ayers and mentor Wright included within that 301?"

Of course a McCain fan wants a president who has less information to help him make decisions.

If Bush had 300 advisors, he would have known that Iraq had no WMD's and we would be 400 billion in debt.

I know the day he said that he was planning to invade Iraq, that he was using 9/11, and all the people that suffered and died, as a stepping stone for his personal war gains.

But I guess that was a good idea to you.

Posted by: Tim | Aug 15, 2008 12:57:28 PM

Ever hear the phrase garbage in garbage out? I don't want a president that has to hear and sift through information from 300 advisors before he can make a decision. Why not just elect those 301(including George Looney) advisors? We are electing a president based on his qualifications and ability to lead. I guess with Barry we would just be getting a empty figure head.
BTW - are Ayers and mentor Wright included within that 301?

Posted by: Mack | Aug 15, 2008 12:51:11 PM

Get smark and vote McCain....Obama is a sleeper.

Posted by: Jeri | Aug 15, 2008 12:38:53 PM

Like George Bush, John McCain has demonstrated himself to be a muddle-headed sycophant. In terms of deeply felt moral principles, a solid life ethic and organizational skills he is a ship without a rudder. In most respects his is a record of paltry accomplishments as a citizen, senator and husband. If Americans fail to grasp and vote for Barack Obama's unique qualities as an original thinker, organizer, motivator and courageous leader, we will deserve what we get: another term of George Bush and a further American decline in most every category imaginable. We need an extraordinary president for these extraordinary times, and John McCain is not the man to choose.

Posted by: Jerome Thomas | Aug 15, 2008 12:38:48 PM

"That song had nothing to do with the crash unless they wrote it using a crystal ball."

I didn't say it did. It is associated with it because it came out soon before the crash and there was an album cover (quickly withdrawn) of the band standing flames. It weirded people out for the timing which was superstitious but creepy.

The song was by Ronnie Van Zant and Allen Collins who were pissed at Gary Rossington for his substance abuse problems screwing up the start of the 77 tour. He crashed a car into a tree. The plane crashed a few days into the tour.

By 77 most of us in that generation knew the party was getting the better of us. This song resonated with that. I'm not sure where JT is going with this because I don't think he is that old.

Posted by: len | Aug 15, 2008 12:29:54 PM

Mack,

Please stop skirting the issue, and explaing to me why McCain has 134 Lobbyists that are advisors.

Then I will explain why Obama has 300 advisors. I asked first.

Posted by: Tim | Aug 15, 2008 12:26:39 PM

The attempts to make these two situations parallel is more than a little, ridiculous, no?

McCain is a hypocrite, claiming to renounce lobbyists while letting them run his campaign.

That's the problem.

The Baron thing is a media manufactured distraction.

Posted by: Nobodys fool | Aug 15, 2008 12:13:55 PM

"McCain has at least 134 Lobbyists running his campaign and raising money for him"

And Barry has 300 close advisors to help load the teleprompter.

Posted by: Mack | Aug 15, 2008 12:08:24 PM

McCain's association with anti-abortionist bigot Ralph Reed fits perfectly with his management by the Karl Rove team of the Big Lie ans Smear. These handlers have muzzled McCain so he can no longer make a fool of himself in front of reporter on his bus. they have cut way back on his favorite platform, the Town Hall, because he can't answer the questions. Having Reed on board cements him with the religious right and provides another reactionary mouthpiece for his ugly campaign. Maverick? Straight-talker? - what a joke! He is nothing more than addled old hack who has turned over his campaign to the worst elements in US politics. Why? Because he is incompetent.

Posted by: jefflz | Aug 15, 2008 12:02:27 PM

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