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Pelosi Will Allow Vote on Off-Shore Drilling; Rejects Idea that Edwards Cost Clinton Iowa
August 12, 2008 7:56 AM
On Larry King Live last night, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi suggested that her mind was opening towards allowing a vote on off shore drilling.
"There are things that Congress can do" to alleviate the energy crisis, Pelosi said, "but the Republicans and the president have resisted. Instead, they have this thing that says drill offshore in the protected areas. Well, we can do that. We can have a vote on that. But it has to be part of something that says we want to bring immediate relief to the public and not just a hoax on them."
Asked if she would support an energy package that includes drilling, Pelosi said she would not, then added: "It depends how the drilling is put forth. But I don't -- that is not excluded, let me say it that way. It depends how that is proposed, if the safeguards are there."
Pelosi also rejected the contention by Howard Wolfson, the former communications director for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, that John Edwards' lies about his infidelity ultimately cost Clinton the nomination, since -- the theory goes -- Clinton would have won Iowa had Edwards not been in the race.
"I don't buy that," Pelosi said. "You don't know. Who knows? How does he know that?"
The Speaker continued: "what we have learned about what happened in Iowa was that it was a very strong anti-war vote. Barack Obama never supported the war. Edwards backed away from his vote on the war. And that was a differentiating issue in that campaign. I don't know who would have benefited. It probably would have been spread around. Some of the other candidates for president may think that they would have benefited as the alternative to Hillary Clinton and to Barack Obama. Maybe somebody else would have run if he were not in the race. Nobody can tell you what would have happened."
- jpt
August 12, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (70)
Dont fall for Pelosi scam on "limited" offshore drilling. Just let the ban expire and then talk about ANWAR if she wants to negotiate a complete energy plan!!
Posted by: Charles | Aug 17, 2008 11:13:05 AM
... since any solution that doesn't conform to an environmental extremist idea seems to be resisted without logical arguments"
Cyros, Were you alluding to me as an environmental extremist? My,my,that wasn't too nice if you were. I was just responding to your question about swapping leases which neither you nor I have. I'm totally lost with your last argument, but that's okay. You needn't explain again.
Posted by: kat | Aug 13, 2008 11:21:03 PM
"Cant wait to see the pork she puts in the bill and the restrictions!!
This is a cover for her!!
Posted by: spock"
Yep spock totally agreed. She has already indicated ONE of the necessary provisions would be emptying the SPR. I posted below how disastrous and short sighted I believe that idea is and have yet to see someone on any thread come up with a rational based justification for emptying the SPR.
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 13, 2008 4:46:16 PM
Cant wait to see the pork she puts in the bill and the restrictions!!
This is a cover for her!!
Posted by: spock | Aug 13, 2008 2:56:23 PM
"Rodney. What is wrong with drilling for an insurance policy? OK, Use your ALTERNATIVES, but give us the oil, NOW!!
Posted by: Manitu"
This post is straight to the point of the situtation I think. No one is saying drilling for oil replaces any alternatives. We are saying affordable energy requires short term, transitional and long term solutions if we really want to solve the problem.
Alternative energy simply is not viable in the short term and things like the SPR, domestic drilling, nuclear, etc are good ideas strictly from the idea of having a backup plan. PC and environmentalism try to seperate their ideals from the consequences of those ideals but in reality they are tightly coupled.
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 13, 2008 1:49:45 PM
"what you dont understand is that in our blindness we are putting pressure on the people rthat represent us to do things that they know are wrong---if 80% of the public want offshore drilling then that is what you will get-----BUT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WILL BE GAINED AND THE 70 % WE IMPORT MAKES US OWNED BY OPEC---DONT BELIEVE ME---JUST LET THEM TURN THE OIL OFF--AND GET A LESSON IN KAOS"
So how will depending on more and more of OPECs oil make us any less dependant on them? Wouldn't having our own oil fields at least ready to produce help us prevent some of the intense crisis in this scenario since we could increase our domestic production to hopefully cover at least some basic needs?
Do you support the liberal positions such as Pelosi's on this issue? If so I have another question
As you pointed out if OPEC shut off the oil we would be in chaos. Don't you think this makes Nancy Pelosi's propsal of emptying our Strategy Petroleum Reserve scary?
We only have a 35 day supply (we used 20 million barrels a day and have 700 currently in the SPR) and to me that is the only buffer we have to prevent OPEC or world events such as nuclear war from causing huge problems in the US within a couple days and completely immobilizing our military.
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 13, 2008 1:36:49 PM
"What do you think of my proposal to swap leases for the new land for the old land that is not explored.
Cyros- I assume the "new land" you're referring to is the protected off shore areas. Before leasing can occur with these areas, legislation needs to lift the ban. So it's hypothetical at this juncture if there would be leases available for the protected areas. So no, I would not swap non-explored leases for hypothetical leases in federally protected areas, or trade something for nothing. I do respectfully disagree, though this has truly been a Lewis Carol exercise in logic.
Posted by: kat "
Since most of the energy proposal is hypothetical I don't understand how you can consider this argument valid unless you want to extend it to the entire energy issue since any theory or planning is hypothetical until it takes place. So should we not support any energy plan since they are all hypothetical? This appears to be a cop out to not answer the question.
It costs hundreds of millions of dollars to explore different areas. Americans want cheap gas. Wouldn't the best and most efficient way to provide cheap gas and to quell speculation be to drill in areas of known oil reserves rather than spend a lot of money and time surveying areas that likely won't have any? Bush lifting the presidential moratorium lowered oil prices by $10 a barrel. Mike D's comments regarding OPEC and their gouging tie into what I am describing perfectly so I won't rehash the same idea and take up space.
The "unused leases" argument is mostly used as an excuse not to drill. It seems that the normal logical rules of solving a problem are not followed with energy and oil since any solution that doesn't conform to environmental extremist ideal seems to be resisted without logical arguments.
Once again if people think that drilling is bad that is fine everyone has the right to an opinion, but please be honest and fess up that the reality of the environmental ideals require expensive energy including gas and that we need to sacrifice the health of our economy to meet the ideals. That is the reality.
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 13, 2008 1:23:02 PM
Hillary is right the press chose the candidates
Posted by: spock | Aug 13, 2008 12:10:55 PM
Oh Nancy, just admit it already that you do not want Hillary Clinton to be POTUS. You never have and you never will.
Earth to Nancy: Hillary will be POTUS! If not this election, in 2012, and you will once again be on the outside looking in!
Nancy Pelosi-Worst Speaker ever!
nancy Pelosi is the epitome of a do-nothing Speaker!
Posted by: US Vet | Aug 13, 2008 11:56:25 AM
Time for a history lesson people. Does anyone remember the gaslines of the 70's? Does anyone know how we got out of that? I do. Reagan decided we were going to make ourselves energy independent and started moving forward with plans. OPEC decided they couldn't lose the money they make off the U.S. so they lowered oil prices and increased production. The price eventually got so low that it was no longer cost effective for the U.S. to continue with their plans. We stopped and bought cheap oil from OPEC. Slowly the price started to rise and rise and rise. Fast forward to 2008 and the cost of a barrel of oil hits $140.00. America gets serious about drilling and, (GASP!!) the cost per barrel starts to drop. Why do you think that is? Strange coincidence huh?
You hear all the talk about the economy and futures and trouble in the middle-east. To my knowledge those things are still going on but the price of oil keeps dropping....hmmm...
Anyone ever hear "Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it"?
Posted by: Mike D. | Aug 13, 2008 10:25:37 AM
What do you think of my proposal to swap leases for the new land for the old land that is not explored.
Cyros- I assume the "new land" you're referring to is the protected off shore areas. Before leasing can occur with these areas, legislation needs to lift the ban. So it's hypothetical at this juncture if there would be leases available for the protected areas. So no, I would not swap non-explored leases for hypothetical leases in federally protected areas, or trade something for nothing. I do respectfully disagree, though this has truly been a Lewis Carol exercise in logic.
Posted by: kat | Aug 13, 2008 2:11:11 AM
Rodney. What is wrong with drilling for an insurance policy? OK, Use your ALTERNATIVES, but give us the oil, NOW!!
Posted by: Manitu | Aug 12, 2008 9:52:08 PM
Edwards lying cost Hillary Iowa. Pelosi is a fool!!
Posted by: Manitu | Aug 12, 2008 9:47:49 PM
Yes, Pelosi, John Edwards, Dean, Reed, Kennedy, MSM and you, cost H.R. Clinton the elections and as they say in the movies, the voters are going to take you down!!!
You will see the results of your arrogance come the General Elections, if not before.
Posted by: TerryDo--Puma +40 | Aug 12, 2008 9:13:15 PM
Watching Pelosi, Obama, and the lot is like watching goldfish flip floping around on the floor after their bowl has been knocked over!
Posted by: Jim | Aug 12, 2008 8:44:26 PM
Talk about flip-flops - just like her Leader! She was against the drilling, until she was for the drilling until she was against the drilling... Stay tuned!
Posted by: Beckie | Aug 12, 2008 8:09:46 PM
It looks like people have stopped commenting on this thread. I would appreciate a debate on the many questions I have asked from opposing viewpoints if anyone reads them. Thanks.
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 12, 2008 2:53:24 PM
Before someone asks no I am not "paid by Big Oil." I just believe that reality, common sense and reason should trump ideals that do not have reality, common sense or reason behind them.
If people think "drilling is bad" that is fine you have the right to your opinion but I prefer more rational arguments if you want to enact policies that will further weaken america in the global economy.
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 12, 2008 1:42:36 PM
"Increased drilling will just add to ExxonMobil's record profits while doing nothing to ease gas prices.
How about auctioning the rights to drill in these protected areas and rebating the revenue back to the taxpayer? Now THATS something I think a lot of hard-hit democrats could get behind."
Maybe I'm interpreting this incorrectly but this sounds like a greed based "me" solution. Give "me" the money. FYI this money goes to the government which equals the taxpayer so it already happens.
Also to give a scale of size internationally Exxon is the 17th largest oil company in the world.
FYI Exxon's profit margins are around 10% normal for similar industries so their "record profits" are so big because they employ a lot of americans. So are companies that provide a lot of american jobs now a bad thing too?
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 12, 2008 1:40:29 PM
"You think this oil is for America only. This is just another ruse by the Republicans and big American oil to fill their bankrolls even more. Once they get the go ahead to drill, do you think in 10 years that they will just sell it to the US? No, they will sell it on the world market for the highest price possible."
OPEC and other oil producing countries know they can put the screws to us politically and financially if we are not producing our own oil as we have no choice but to but it from them. As payment for producing oil the oil companies provide America with a percentage of all oil so regardless we do get some of it. Also if environmental concerns are an issue the biggest risk with petroleum from spills is in transportation so we are better off environmentally producing it domestically.
FYI the coffers you're talking about are largely our retirement funds.
Speaking of special interests do you think that massive contributions from extremist environmental groups to democrats to not drill, provide, nuclear, refinery capacity, etc do not influence their decisions?
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 12, 2008 1:35:15 PM
Increased drilling will just add to ExxonMobil's record profits while doing nothing to ease gas prices.
How about auctioning the rights to drill in these protected areas and rebating the revenue back to the taxpayer? Now THATS something I think a lot of hard-hit democrats could get behind.
Posted by: Frank | Aug 12, 2008 1:32:29 PM
Several of the areas have been explored and remember there is a very high cost to explore those areas. If the idea is to lower the cost of energy why would we only allow companies to explore areas with a small rate or no rate of return? The costs will come back the american people in two ways; the cost of the petroleum based products as well as the decreased value in the stocks most of us have invested in these companies.
What do you think of my proposal to swap leases for the new land for the old land that is not explored? That would negate a lot of this argument.
What do you think of my idea
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 12, 2008 1:30:02 PM
sane democrat, saying it doesn't make it true. The Bush Administration has not violated the U. S. Constitution.
1. The 4th Amendment to the U. S. Constitution protects against "unreasonable search and seizures" without a warrant. THAT means there are reasonable searches and seizures that do not require a warrant. One of these is seizing your breath in order to take a breathalyzer test during a traffic stop. No warrant is necessary for that. Well, what could be more reasonable than searching and seizing communications between the enemy abroad and individuals here at home during time of war?
2. Prior to the U. S. Supreme Court's recent overturning of Johnson v. Eisentrager (1950), the law of the land was that foreign detainees held under American command outside the boundaries of the United States did not have a right to a writ of habeas corpus in American courts.
3. The U. S. Congress authorized the use of force against Iraq. While many on the left claim the authorization was based on a lie--no WMDs--that is not the case. President Bush rescinded the 1991 cease fire because Saddam Hussein failed to comply with the conditions of said cease fire. The fact that there were no WMDs in not relevant.
Posted by: James Danley | Aug 12, 2008 1:28:47 PM
"no one is stupid enough to open off-shore drilling off California's coast....not even neo-conservatives..."
Exactly, because it's bad for the environment to produce and buy locally. You need production on another continent that is then transported here.
That's why I buy all my produce from China. For the good of the environment.
Oh, I'm supposed to buy produce locally, and manufactured goods locally (when possible) but buying oil/gas locally is bad, and we should ship that across the ocean to save the world?
We should require drilling to be done in countries that have fewer environmental restrictions in order to "save the world"? Really?
Interesting. Well, when you want to act seriously then I'll be willing to take you seriously.
But maybe we can trust Pelosi. In July of 2007 she told us she was very worried about $3.00 gasoline and would act quickly to resolve the issue.
How has she done so far? Are you happy with the "resolution" of the problem?
Posted by: Gekkobear | Aug 12, 2008 1:28:15 PM
"James Danley They don't all have to be made from oil, and some of them are indeed expendable."
This sort of issue I think comes down to ideals versus efficiency such as the whole energy issue does. How much of our lifestyles should we compromise to meet ideals, what is the value of those ideals, and how fair is it to push the costs of one's ideals onto everyone else ?
Is restricting freedoms and choices in the name of ideals for the environment (of course sensible environmentalism is not an ideal but necessary), the children or the poor any better than restricting freedoms for national security? I personally don't think so except to a limited degree.
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 12, 2008 1:26:39 PM
Cyros, First of all, it can't be determined yet whether the presently leased areas actually have oil or gas because there hasn't been exploration yet of these regions. And likewise, it can only be speculated if the protected areas can be exploited. So how about if the determination of existing fossil fuels is put in front of the drilling, or more simply stated, the horse is put ahead of the cart? There doesn't need to be this sense of urgency and demand when the existing leases are dormant.
Posted by: kat | Aug 12, 2008 1:25:14 PM
RE:Cryos. So if this is a world market, which I agree with, how are we going to keep prices down by drilling for more oil? You think this oil is for America only. This is just another ruse by the Republicans and big American oil to fill their bankrolls even more. Once they get the go ahead to drill, do you think in 10 years that they will just sell it to the US? No, they will sell it on the world market for the highest price possible. It will be too late then and we won't be able to do a thing about it! It's called deceit...look it up in the Rove Dictionary of Deception and you will see Bush and Cheney's pics on page one.
Posted by: sane democrat | Aug 12, 2008 1:21:52 PM
"no one is stupid enough to open off-shore drilling off California's coast....not even neo-conservatives..."
And what is the reason for this again? Couple counters to what likely will come up.
1. Most rigs would be far enough offshore not to ruin the view
2. Strong environmental rules are in place to prevent and/or recover from any spills (very low incident rate in modern times). The Santa Barbara incident is looking at 30-40 year old technology.
3. If oil drilling is bad why do Norway and Canada agressively pursue oil? They have a couple of the best environmental records in the world.
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 12, 2008 1:05:43 PM
As a life-long Democrat, I am sorry to admit the way Pelosi has manipulated the outcome of the primaries and now is considering drilling offshore as an answer to our oil woes. Surprise, surprise...this falls just in line with Obama's change of heart on the issue! As much as I detest those ignorant, backwards Republicans, I'm NOT voting for Obama either. He is a phony who was shoved down our throats by the DNC and media outlets like CNN and NBC.
Pelosi should be run out of office as quick as possible. Poor America...what a shape you are in! Bush and Cheney would be tried for war crimes and be in jail by now if we upheld our Constitution.
Posted by: sane democrat | Aug 12, 2008 1:02:53 PM
As a life-long Democrat, I am sorry to admit the way Pelosi has manipulated the outcome of the primaries and now is considering drilling offshore as an answer to our oil woes. Surprise, surprise...this falls just in line with Obama's change of heart on the issue! As much as I detest those ignorant, backwards Republicans, I'm NOT voting for Obama either. He is a phony who was shoved down our throats by the DNC and media outlets like CNN and NBC.
Pelosi should be run out of office as quick as possible. Poor America...what a shape you are in! Bush and Cheney would be tried for war crimes and be in jail by now if we upheld our Constitution.
Posted by: sane democrat | Aug 12, 2008 1:02:52 PM
"If I'm not mistaken, I think there are presently a substantial number of available leases for offshore drilling in non-protected areas which haven't been utilized."
This is a classic argument that I don't think people have looked much into when they use it.
1. Much of that land does not contain oil or contains oil in small amounts making it cost prohibitive.
2. The land is not considered "active" until all facilities are online and a certain amount of oil is leaving the ground. For example if offshore drilling was approved and oil companies starting surveying and preparing the infrastructure democrats could claim these new leases were inactive until everything was in place and oil was pumping.
Here's a compromise. Since the amount of land seems to be the issue how would you feel about the companies swapping acre for acre the land they already have for the land they want to acquire? Then they wouldnt have leases on any additional land and I bet oil companies would accept this is a heartbeat.
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 12, 2008 1:01:49 PM
On the Edwards situation who knows what the results would be but I'd hope even the biggest Edwards supporters could admit MSM and democratic politicians tried covering it up as long as they could. I'd like someone to try to honestly say the lack of investigation of simple verifiable facts would have happened if it had been a prominent republican.
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 12, 2008 12:56:38 PM
First off when people talk about Big Oil I wish they would refer to it as American Big Oil. Apparently libs think foreign companies don't exist and somehow making american companies go out of business is going to help us.
Wake up libs its not the 50s the "corporations versus the people" argument only works with the naive who don't realize in a global economy if we stop our companies from profiting they will go out of business, get bought, or move offshore making us rely solely on foreign companies. I guess to me that is not the most brilliant strategy to be "independant."
Second I guess people like Pelosi need to be taught the definition of strategic. Her main plan is to empty the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. The high oil prices are not a true crisis that the SPR was designed for. If we follow liberal policies we'll never be able to fill it back up since the cost of petroleum will just go up and up. We use around 20 million barrels a day. The reserve is at 700 million barrels. If there was a true crisis such as a nuclear war in the middle east we would have 35 days of oil and combined with liberals refusal to drill we wouldn't be able to produce much of our own to cover it.
In the long run getting off oil as much as possible is a good goal but in the short term emptying the reserve makes us vulnerable and slaves of the oil producing countries. Perfect example you won't see much action from the EU on the Russia/Georgia situation because Russia is a huge European oil supplier and they could turn off the oil and Europe would be in chaos.
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 12, 2008 12:53:17 PM
We'll never know what really would have happened without Edwards, but the evidence in the states that were polled before their primaries is that all of the Edwards supporters ended up casting their votes for Obama, not Clinton. Based on that evidence, it is highly unlikely that something different would have happened in Iowa.
Posted by: Mike | Aug 12, 2008 12:46:14 PM
i'm still waiting for one obama lemming to present one original idea or policy this snake charmer has come up with to make America better
Posted by: chris | Aug 12, 2008 12:42:41 PM
no one is stupid enough to open off-shore drilling off California's coast....not even neo-conservatives...
Posted by: chris | Aug 12, 2008 12:38:35 PM
DNC rules state that a petition to place a candidate in nomination at the Convention, signed by no fewer than 300 delegates, must be accepted by the Chair. Our contacts in the 300 Petition effort tell us they are quite confident they will meet and easily exceed the 300 signatures, all of which are notarized, in the likely event that the Obama campaign, following the lead of Barack Obama himself in his discrediting campaign against Alice Palmer in Chicago, will attempt to challenge the validity of the elected delegates’ signatures.
“We know how Obama operates. We’ve seen it in Chicago for years, and we’re not taking any chances,” says one of the delegates I spoke with who is organizing the 300 Petition.
____________________________________
The totally UN-Democratic PARTY!!!
Posted by: HP Boston | Aug 12, 2008 12:10:56 PM
If I'm not mistaken, I think there are presently a substantial number of available leases for offshore drilling in non-protected areas which haven't been utilized. There is a rush and emphasis to drill in the protected areas before the other areas are exploited. It may be a matter of grabbing what you can while you can, just a simple issue of greed. As far as the Edward's affair goes in speculation to Clinton winning or losing Iowa, that amounts to predicting the past.
Posted by: kat | Aug 12, 2008 11:52:48 AM
Edwards was a spoiler for Obama just as Thompson was for McCain against Huckabee. People who have followed this election know this. Edwards and his wife are both losers, no pity from me, she(Elizabeth) knew going in about the affair, she is just as power hungry as her husband.
Pelosi has to change or she is out. The people want to drill. I hope they see through the lies Pelosi is putting out there.
Posted by: 30yrdem-not any more | Aug 12, 2008 11:42:31 AM
There'll be a catch.
There's always a catch. This will be bound to something like an amnesty program for illegals.
Posted by: drjohn | Aug 12, 2008 11:36:46 AM
of course pelosi waffled on drilling...
no way she would say edwards campaign had an effect on the nomination. she has been in the tank for bho since day one...as well as dean, reid, kennedy, kerry, brazille....
Posted by: pp | Aug 12, 2008 11:34:41 AM
Oil companies are warehousing the leases, as a method of driving up prices. The Democrats tried (with some Republic support) to take back the leases that weren't being explored, but the Republicans that are in the pocket of big oil blocked it.
There is no evidence that expanding the areas leased will result in drilling, and plenty of evidence against.
Posted by: Mike | Aug 12, 2008 11:31:47 AM
Kelvin,
Your proposal is absurd for an open market capitalist society.
However, if you are arguing that the government should socialize energy, or at least oil, then that is a different point. Perhaps we should open it up to discussion. I think it's a bad idea, but I'm sure socialist Obama would love it.
Posted by: JA | Aug 12, 2008 11:06:08 AM
James Danley
They don't all have to be made from oil, and some of them are indeed expendable.
Posted by: jock59801 | Aug 12, 2008 11:02:14 AM
Those of you who say that the book Obama Nation is "lies". Find a lie in it --- and post the facts then.
I have never read a book that has so many footnotes to back up the facts in a book.
Obama is one scary person, but I don't see the liberal media reporting these facts.
I am not a big supporter of John McCain, but he is the better alternative. Most of the critics talk about his age or his $500 shoes, but at least you know where he stands. You make fun of his "rich" wife, but she has donated much of her time to charities that help children. I didn't see these same critics make fun of John Kerry's "rich" wife or John Edwards $400 hair cuts.
Posted by: susie | Aug 12, 2008 10:46:28 AM
Kelvin, price caps do not work. When a private company is not allowed to make a product for profit they stop making that product.
Posted by: James Danley | Aug 12, 2008 10:33:14 AM
Ammonia, Anesthetics, Antihistamines, Artificial limbs, Artificial Turf, Antiseptics, Aspirin, Auto Parts, Awnings, Balloons, Ballpoint pens, Bandages, Beach Umbrellas, Boats, Cameras, Candles, Car Battery Cases, Carpets, Caulking, Combs, Cortisones, Cosmetics, Crayons, Credit Cards, Curtains, Deodorants, Detergents, Dice, Disposable Diapers, Dolls, Dyes, Eye Glasses, Electrical Wiring Insulation, Faucet Washers, Fishing Rods, Fishing Line, Fishing Lures, Food Preservatives, Food Packaging, Garden Hose, Glue, Hair Coloring, Hair Curlers, Hand Lotion, Hearing Aids, Heart Valves, Ink, Insect Repellant, Insecticides, Linoleum, Lip Stick, Milk Jugs, Nail Polish, Oil Filters, Panty Hose, Perfume, Petroleum Jelly, Rubber Cement, Rubbing Alcohol, Shampoo, Shaving Cream, Shoes, Toothpaste, Trash Bags, Upholstery, Vitamin Capsules, Water Pipes, Yarn
Unless you are all willing to stop using products like these...we are always going to need oil. That's because all of the above are products made from oil.
Posted by: James Danley | Aug 12, 2008 10:32:33 AM
If I were Pelosi, the oil companies would have to sign an agreement that states if the want to acquire new drilling leases offshore or on the mainland, the oil they find will have to be used for America only. They can't sell it to other countries. And the price of gas should be capped at 2 dollars a gallon or less.
Posted by: Kelvin | Aug 12, 2008 10:10:37 AM
Hey Mike, and just when are we going to be able to fill our tanks with wind and solar? A lease allows exploration with some assurance of a return for money spent. Allow all possible locations to be explored. Produce more oil while looking for other means. Why not? Even such anti-business libs as Obama and Pelosi are coming on board.
Posted by: v racer | Aug 12, 2008 10:04:11 AM
Just talking about doing something about drilling has reduced the price of fuel. Imagine what really doing something would do. I have oil company stock, why don't you? They are in the best position to find/invent and distribute alternate fuels too. Who do you think will get to sell the stuff on every street corner from their in place stations? It will soon be "big alternative fuel" who are the bad guys to libs who are anti-business.
Posted by: v racer | Aug 12, 2008 9:54:59 AM
Hummm. The DNC is getting mighty defensive about Edwards costing Clinton the nomination. Sounds like a lawsuit in the making. The lying, cheating DNC insiders seem to be getting caught left and right. And Edwards 61 delegates? What's to become of them? If he has to forfiet them, I believe that will put Clinton ahead in Pledged Delegates. Stay tuned.......
PUMA!
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | Aug 12, 2008 9:54:55 AM
Hopefully, if Obama wins, he'll get Pelosi & Reid out of their leadership positions.
What weak-kneed people.
As for the Edwards/Hillary thing, Wolfson is just wrong.
Exit-polling asked who people voted for, and who their 2nd choice would be. Most Edwards supporters said Obama was their 2nd choice.
So, Obama would have won by a larger margin.
And just so y'all know, I voted for Hillary in the Primary, so, this just happens to be a fact, and not being biased to Obama.
Posted by: jon | Aug 12, 2008 9:52:00 AM
The book "Obama Nation" is loaded with facts that have been thoroughly researched and footnoted in a full 34 pages. Those that haven't read the book should and those that have but don't agree with it need to give actual facts in disputing it. Emotional opinions just don't cut it anymore.
Posted by: Kathy | Aug 12, 2008 9:35:03 AM
It's about time she allows a vote on
"Drill Here..Drill Now". We need to
be independent from foreign oil. And
she is way behind on all the things
she promised when elected. Worse
House Speaker ever.
Posted by: Annette | Aug 12, 2008 9:34:35 AM
Sorry....Oil is a WORLD commodity...it goes on the WORLD market, not the LOCAL market. Wake up people! They ONLY reason the want to drill is because of how MUCH it's bringing on the WORLD market. Besides, if the Middle East wants to keep the price up all they have to do is DECREASE production. Why don't they drill where thet=y already have leases?....Because they want it ALL. It's called greed.
Posted by: itslyintimeagain | Aug 12, 2008 9:31:40 AM
There is a sad pattern I see going on everywhere through this election. McCain supporters are not actually supporting McCain but protesting Obama. You will notice this everywhere they talk and blog - they are continuously talking about how Obama is bad for the country. But, you'll never find them promoting McCain because there is nothing to promote. Everything from himslef to his policies are OLD, WEAK and DANGEROUS.
Posted by: Yoni | Aug 12, 2008 9:27:27 AM
The "I was neutral" about the election because "I am the convention chair" was as blatant a lie as I thought I would ever hear from a House Speaker and in the last five decades I've heard some whoppers.
Pelosi is starting her own run for the Presidency with her book and the Amazing Money Machine's contributor list she created for Obama. Now that she believes she has eliminated her rival, Hillary Clinton, she is stumping for women's rights.
Pelosi is damaged goods and she knows it. She believes women will forget what she did to the best woman candidate of a generation. Sorry Jake, but we aren't sitting in rusty bunkers in the Phillipines. We're right here, very much engaged and determined to retake the Democratic Party.
Go PUMA.
Posted by: len | Aug 12, 2008 9:27:13 AM
DONT GET ON THAT HILLARY PARADE AGAIN AS YOU MUST REALIZE THAT SLICK WILLY SOLD US OUT WITH NAFTA ---AND REALLY SLAMMED IT TO US WITH THE CHINA TRADE AGREEMENTS----AND SHE WAS THERE AND A PART OF IT----AND THAT IS A FACT.
Posted by: rodney | Aug 12, 2008 9:19:31 AM
SNOBAMA
TAX CUTS WOULD BE FOR MIDDLE CLASS --AND THOSE OVER 250,000 PER YEAR WOULD PAY A LITTLE MORE----WHERE DOES WELFARE FIT INTO THIS.
Posted by: rodney | Aug 12, 2008 9:16:19 AM
i would think that pelosi is doing the right thing BUT ONLY IF DRILLING PUTS THE OIL HERE AND NOT ON THE WORLD MARKET---AMERICA HAS TO BE FIRST---AS IT NOW STANDS WE WILL GAIN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND BIG OIL WILL MAKE MILLIONS MORE OFF US.IF WE DO NOT GET TO ALTERNATE FUELS AND ENERGY WE WILL BE DOOMED AS WE CANNOT OVERCOME THE 70% WE IMPORT BY DRILLING--MOST LIKELY 10%---IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND--PICTURE OUR COUNTRY WITH EVEN 60% OF OUR NEEDS CUT OFF AND YOU WILL BEGIN TO REALIZE WHAT COULD BE DONE TO YOU----THEY COULD VIRTUALLY DESTROY US.DOMESTIC OIL HAS TO STAY HERE AND GOVERNMENT MUST CONTROLL THE PRICE ---FOR OUR OWN SECURITY.BIO FUELS CAN AND WOULD CREATE A COMPETITIVE MARKET---AND PRICES WOULD TEND TO BE STABLE--AND A LOT CHEAPER--THAT AND THE MONEY WOULD STAY HERE IN AMERICA.
Posted by: rodney | Aug 12, 2008 9:10:57 AM
Nancy Pelosi going against the Hillary campaign? I'm shocked!
Wasn't she the hope killer of this election when she said there would be no dream ticket *while* Hillary was still competing for votes?
Posted by: jose | Aug 12, 2008 9:00:39 AM
Who knows what will happen in the future. All we can go by is what we have already been through. Bush was voted into office by many people who believed that he would be able to lead our country to be prosperous and make everyone feel secure. That did not happen. America is embarrassed about what the president has done to them. Most of them don't want to admit that they have been taken on a big oil ride for 8 years, and some just totally deny it. Obama is trying to help our country and he seems to be genuine about his intentions. I have a hard time talking down to anyone who will take the mess America is in right now and want to clean it up. I have respect for Obama and I hope he will win this election. He has not lied to us nor has he embarrassed us. He can speak a full sentence and he has a mind of his own. He owes nothing to the people in Washington and he has support from the people. What else could all of you want?????
Posted by: Carbon unit | Aug 12, 2008 8:58:08 AM
Question for the sore loser: Where was your opposition research?
Posted by: El Guapo's Ghost | Aug 12, 2008 8:57:17 AM
Obama is the best!He will win the election against old man,John Mcanger who flip flops all the time!
Posted by: Ndali | Aug 12, 2008 8:51:44 AM
Where did my post go? Nancy Pelosi needs to hush since she has done nothing she promised since becoming speaker of the house, and Obama will continue the trend of empty promises by the party I once loved. Will the media really do its job and just stop reporting on what type of music the canidates like and where they vacation what about foreign money in the campaign
Posted by: rachel | Aug 12, 2008 8:50:26 AM
Whatever Pelosi. You have done none of the things you promised since beign named speaker of the house, and Obama will will continue the empty promises of the party I once loved. Why in the world does non of the books against Obama get any media attention? I bet the media will fawn over his new book when it comes out oh so strategically right before the election.
Posted by: rachel | Aug 12, 2008 8:41:45 AM
shocker, I am shocked at what you still dont know. That 'book' has been utterly debunked. If you post anything in it, you'll only embarrass yourself.
Posted by: Mike | Aug 12, 2008 8:35:32 AM
Since you brought it up, those books are only "best sellers" in the most liberal interpretation of the term. They are marked with an asterisk because they are being bought up by filthy rich donors and operatives. The Republicans again think that they can buy an election.
Posted by: Mike | Aug 12, 2008 8:33:58 AM
People like Nancy Pelosi & Howard Dean are the main reason I'm voting against my own party this year. I don't care what positions the Democratic Party takes. Until they straighten out their nominating process and make it more democratic, I'll be casting a protest vote for the Republicans or stay home.
Posted by: Carrie Ann | Aug 12, 2008 8:23:04 AM
MEDIA LINKS OFFSHORE OIL LEASING TO ENERGY CRISIS:
In a blatant act of stupidity, the media is claiming a link between offshore oil leasing and the current energy crisis. Despite the fact there is no evidence that FURTHER leases would result in any oil drilling at all, the media persists in allowing the oil companies to set the terms of debate by calling it 'drilling'. Despite the fact that if by some miracle, extra leases did result in a drill being sunk, it would take many years for the oil to reach the consumer, the media persist in linking the leasing plan to the current crisis by allowing the oil companies to frame it as a solution. Despite the fact that much evidence of speculative activity being the cause of much of the current crisis, the media persists in ignoring it.
Posted by: Mike | Aug 12, 2008 8:10:02 AM
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