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Hillary Clinton sucks! I hope her 13 millon in debt chokes her!

LETS GET A FEW THINGS STRAIGHT..
1ST,ALL THIS TALK ON WHAT HAPPENED TO HILLARY AND HOW SHE LOST IS SIMPLE..
SHE GOT BEAT!!

SHE GOT BEAT BY SOMEONE WHO PREPARED BETTER,FOUGHT HARDER,AND WAS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO ATTACK HER LIKE SHE DID HIM AND COME OFF AS A BULLY BEATING ON A GIRL..

2ND, FROM THE DAY SHE ENTERED THE RACE,SHE HAD NAME RECOGNITION,8 YEARS AS 1ST LADY,POLITICAL POWERHOUSES AS FRIENDS,AND MOST OF ALL.. MONEY!!!!
SHE DID NOT PREPARE OR RUN HER CAMPAIGN FOR THE LONG HALL LIKE HE DID..
HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE INTERNET,HIS ORGANIzATIONAL SKILLS,AND HIS ABILITY INSPIRE PEOPLE AND MOVE THEM WITH HIS SPEECHES..

3RD,SHE RAN ON THE SAYING,"I HAVE OVER 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE"..WHAT EXPERIENCE????
THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WERE IN CLINTONS CABINET AND ADMINISTRATION HAVE SAID THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN FOREIGN POLICY DECISIONS,OR EVEN SITTING IN MEETINGS CONCERNING THE ECONOMY,OR EVEN VOTING ON ANYTHING..

BUT AS U PUT IT,SHE HAS EXPERIENCE..LMAO,GIVE ME A BREAK PEOPLE..

OBAMA,RAN ON JUDGEMENT..
REMINDING ALL,THAT THE SAME PEOPLE WHO CLAIM EXPERIENCE,LIKE SHE AND JOHN MC CAIN,AND ALL THEIR EXPERIENCE,GOT US IN THE WAR AND PREDICTAMENT THAT WE ALL ARE IN NOW!!

3RD,BE HONEST..THE REASON I SEE ON THE INTERNET,HEAR ON TALK SHOWS ON THE RADIO,AND SEE ON TV ABOUT HOW U CAN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE U ARE AFRAID,IS WEAK..AFRAID OF WHAT???

U GOT A BLACK MAN WHO HAS FACED PREJUDICE,LIKE HILLARY,AND OVERCAME IT..

HE GREW UP POOR AND ON FOOD STaMPS,UNLIKE
HILLARY AND MC CAIN,aND OVERCAME THAT TOO!!

HE GREW UP WITHOUT KNOWING HIS FATHER WITH HIS SINGLE MOTHER AND GRANDPARENTS RAISING HIM LIKE MOST YOUNG KIDS DO NOW,AND U SINGLE MOTHERS OUT THERE THINK THAT HILLARY KNOWS BETTER OR BEST FOR U???

SHE HAD PARENTS AND MONEY...
SO DID JM AKA JOHN MC CAIN...

OBAMA KNOWS WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE POOR..
BUT DID HE RAISE THIS AS AN ISSUE OR COMPLAIN ABOUT IT???

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HE STAYED HEAD STRONG,WAS SELF MOTIVATED,AND WHAT DO U KNOW,ENDED UP AT HARVARD!!!

MS.CLINTON,WOULD SAY OR DO ANYTHING FOR YOUR VOTE..
4TH..THE LIES aBOUT GETTING OFF A PLANE UNDER GUNFIRE,THAT SHE REPEATED ON MORE THAN 2 OCCASIONS..AND HER SUPPORTERS CLAIMING THAT THE MEDIA WAS ATTACKING HER BECaUSE OF THE STATEMENT..WELL,SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE LIED,AND TRIED TO COMPETE WITH JM TO SAY SHE TOO HAD COMBAT EXPERIENCE,LOL...WELL....

5TH..HAVE U CLINTON BACKERS EVEN LIFTED A FINGER ON YOUR KEYBOARD TO SEE JUST WHAT SHE'S DONE IN THE SENATE????

SHE HAD ONE MEANINGFUL BILL SHE SPONSORED,AND IT WAS ABOUT HEALTHCARE...THAT WAS IT!!!
THE OTHER 19 HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH NOTHING..LIKE,NAMING POST OFFICES AFTER SOMEONE..WHAT THE HECK???

OBAMA HAD MORE EXPERIENCE ON HIS 1ST DAY IN THE SENATE THAN CLINTON DID..
AND HAD WRITTEN,SPONSORED,AND PASSED MORE BILLS THAN SHE DID..

U HILLARY SUPPORTERS NEED TO GET A LIFE AND GET OVER IT!!!
SHE LOST....

hfp - All of your conspiracy theories lead to one logical conclusion: Evil Obama has been smart enough to fool everyone in the US government. You're right, it would be terrible if we elected someone smarter than everyone else...

So let's get this straight... those who believe unsubstantiated rumors are "informed" and those who will only believe what they can prove somehow are not informed?

Interesting take on things...

jeff, let us catch you up... Soetoro adopted Barry and his name was changed as was his birth certificate, to Barry Soetoro, and he traveled to Pakistan on his Indonesian citizenship passport in 1981. You can't even get a low-level security clearance at the FBI with dual citizenship, fyi.

Obama also posted a selective service registry number which he said he got in Hawaii one year after his 18th birthday which doesn't match up with his name on cross-check. He was at Occidental college at the time he said he registered, and the number is not for him or any of his many alias names (Barry Dunham, Barry Soetoro, Barack Obama)

Jeff - Please stop jeff, youre making me laugh way too hard. you are so easily taken for a ride. That birth certificate is a PROVEN PHONEY. It lacks official characteristics, found on real BC issued in Hawaii at that time. You expect to find the truth an Obamas website??? Of course you do, youre an Obamna supporter. Was his 20 years membership to black liberation church just a figment of our immagination also? Howabout his choice of anti-american associates? No lies there. Count em, Frank Davis, William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan,Tony Rezko, Louis Ortega, Raila Ordinga,,,, Shall I go on. Stop watching MSNBC before they make a complete sucker out of you. The man is a Marxist ideologue.

Amazing...dozens and dozens of outright lies attempting to smear Obama. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Whatever happened to "Thou shalt not bear false witness...?"

I would love to hear Obama's plan to beat Hillary. I bet it includes playing the race card.

It is really sad that we have a chance to elect Hillary; a candidate that really understands the issues and would put this country back on track, but instead we end up a with Obama; a candidate that is going to announce his choice for Vice President in a text message--this is becoming extremely embarassing.

Bart.

Ever hear of issues? For example.... Obama wants to repeal the capital gains tax break.... do you understand what that means to millions of seniors just getting by on limited income? Have you researched this? FEELING GOOD ABOUT OBAMA IS JUST NOT RATIONAL... DO YOU UNDERSTAND???

If you Liked Cheney, You'll Like Obama, his cousin, they both have turned out to be alike.

McCain is terrible: massive flip-flops and deception. He is completely immoral: he voted against his own anti-torture bill to curry favor with his political bosses. His campaign is staffed by lobbyists. He even had a lobbyist campaign staffer announce that he wouldn't have lobbyist campaign staffers.

His website pays people points to post anti-Obama posts. They are called trolls and Badger is one of them.
McCain has to pay people to write lies about Obama because he can't win on his own accomplishments.

If McCain is elected, he will crash the American economy just like he crashed FIVE planes when he was in the military.

PCC - Yes, it really does boggle the mind. Obama could rob a bank today,,, it would be news for a day, and the liberal media would be right back to promoting obama, while cleaning his diaper. The flip flops, the lies, the church affiliation, the shady associates. Unbeliveable.

What alot of you Obama supporters don't understand is we don't hate Obama ...Obama has done more then his share of hating what America stands for by staying with wright all those years...You see we don't trust Obama and all his friends alot of American's don't trust him and this is going to show come Nov...Its called trust ..If you can't stand for something you will fall for anything and thats what alot of you Obama supporters are doing ..You will not stand up for America against wright and Obama and Farrahkan ..You are saying it's ok to G.D America and that we had 911 coming to us...Obama thanks it's ok to or he would have left the trash he was being feed..

Ben - got news for you - your story is pretty old too - been around for years!!

badger1...It just is amazing that so many people are falling for Obama knowing what they know about him...All his life he chose to have the people that hate America all around him and Why?...It sure does tell you how some
American's feel about this country
...Sad really really sad that they will not stand up for this country and all it gives them...Because they really think Obama is going to do something for them...Some just can't understand that he's just another typical politation.

So Obama wants to suspend the income tax on seniors. How do you spell "I WANT TO WIN FLORIDA!!!" I don't know what the tapes are that Penn refers to, but I hope some REAL journalist finds them and releases them, preferably during the convention.

WOW - SO OBAMA IS GOING CANCEL THE INCOME TAX FOR US OLD GUYS!! AND... GIVE LOTS OF OTHER INTITLEMENTS FOR PRACTALLY EVERYONE ELSE EXCEPT THE FAT CATS AND BIG OIL. THAT WILL ONLY CAUSE THE NATIONAL DEBT TO DOUBLE, WEAKEN THE DOLLAR SOME MORE, AND...... CAUSE THE FIRST DEPRESSION SINCE THE 1930s. SAD TO SAY THAT AT LEAST SOME OLD GUYS WILL FALL FOR OBAMA'S GOBBLEDEGOOK!!

How can anyone keep supporting a man who knows very little about government, foreign affairs, history, people, and politics? It is a shame that so many are so determined to vote " D" when they don't veen know how pathetic their choice really is. Shameful, really.

I don't think the republicans will be as nice as Hillary. If they have the tapes also, I'm sure we'll see them after the convention.

I think there are questions about Obama's citizenship and that is why Bill Clinton said in a recent interview that the Constitution determines who is qualified to serve. Will we find out soon whether or not BHO is qualified according to the Constitution?

As we have been hearing frightening reports of Russia’s actions against South Ossenia and beyond in Georgia, you might be interested to read this statement issued by Senator Hillary Clinton on Georgia and Ukraine on April 18, 2008:

I am deeply disturbed by the latest Russian actions regarding Georgia, and Russia’s broader policies towards its neighbors.

Several weeks ago I called on NATO to extend a Membership Action Plan (MAP) to Georgia and Ukraine at the Bucharest Summit. I emphasized that this move would be a litmus test for the success of President Bush’s leadership of the trans-Atlantic community. My support for MAP was based on the need to send a positive signal to Tbilisi and Kyiv to encourage them to stay on track with their positive reforms as well as to send a signal of our concern to Moscow about the future security of these countries.

I deeply regret President Bush’s inability to convince our NATO allies to take this action. This is the first time in memory a U.S. President has traveled to a NATO summit and failed to achieve his publicly proclaimed goals.

Now the Russian government has taken advantage of the lack of unity coming out of the Bucharest Summit to further ratchet up the pressure on young democracies on its borders. Moscow’s actions this week to strengthen ties with the separatist regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia undermine the territorial integrity of the state of Georgia and are clearly designed to destabilize the government of President Mikheil Saakashvili.

Georgia is a small democratic state in a turbulent region. It must not be allowed to be undermined. Two weeks ago President Bush sat with President Putin in Sochi just a few kilometers away from the Georgian border. He prided himself on his close working relationship with Vladimir Putin. President Bush should call on the Russian leadership to immediately rescind these steps.

I also call on President Bush to immediately send a senior representative to Tbilisi to show our support for the government of Georgia. The United States should raise this matter in the United Nations Security Council, in a special 26+1 session of NATO’s North Atlantic Council (NAC), and in the NATO-Russia Council. Russia needs to hear a unified message from the United States and our European partners about our shared commitment to Georgia’s security and territorial integrity.

These are not the only Russian moves that I have found troubling. Senior Russian officials have engaged in a pressure campaign to prevent Ukraine from seeking deeper ties with NATO. President Putin even raised the prospect of retargeting nuclear missiles against Ukraine.

I am not advocating, nor do I envisage, a return to a new Cold War with Russia, which I believe ought to remain in the G-8, where the United States and its allies can together address our growing list of concerns with Moscow. But the current Administration’ s mishandling of Russian relations has contributed to Moscow’s belief that it can do as it pleases. America and its allies can and must do better.

Since Hillary is no longer ‘in the race,’ not wishing to upstage Senator Obama, I believe, she did not issue any further statement over the weekend, although clearly she has a deep understanding of this crisis and our role here. As reported previously, Senator McCain was also touted as a having a 3 A.M. moment on this issue.

In stark contrast, here was the ‘Statement from Senator Obama, on the Grave Situation in Georgia’ on his way to his Hawaiian vacation on August 8th:

“I strongly condemn the outbreak of violence in Georgia, and urge an immediate end to armed conflict. Now is the time for Georgia and Russia to show restraint, and to avoid an escalation to full scale war. Georgia’s territorial integrity must be respected. All sides should enter into direct talks on behalf of stability in Georgia, and the United States, the United Nations Security Council, and the international community should fully support a peaceful resolution to this crisis.”

I will point out that upon checking Senator Obama’s website just now, he has issued two subsequent statements after the one above, one that came on August 9th and one on the 11th — each of which, respectively, was longer and more detailed than the last and perhaps, more reflective of copying Senator McCain’s homework on the subject.

Hey, take a mulligan, Senator Obama – keep floating those statements till one clicks with the appropriate gravitas.

As you can see, Hillary required no such tutoring, but exhibited a very clear, detailed grasp of the crisis, well before it reached the boiling point, when she urged President Bush to act.

Here is the opening phrase of yesterday’s missive from Senator Obama:

The situation in Georgia continues to deteriorate because of the escalation of Russia’s use of military force. I have spoken to President Saakashvili, and conveyed my deep regret over the loss of life, and the suffering of the people of Georgia.

Why Obama would be calling President Saakashvili, I have no idea. Who is he? He is not yet the official Democratic nominee, never mind that he is not the President. A mere technicality, I suppose.

Between Senators Clinton and Obama, it is eminently clear who has a far stronger grasp of foreign policy issues and certainly on the economy, she is hands and feet above a man who does not even understand what a capital gains tax is – nor could he explain it when he was questioned by Charles Gibson during the ABC debate before the Pennsylvania primary.

Who is the DNC planning on coronating, er, nominating, again?

The San Francisco Chronicle’s top story, that Clinton Supporters are pushing to get her name into nomination, reports how diligently the Obama camp is working to block such a thing from happening:

“It’s a simple thing to do, and it’s the biggest sign of party unity,” said Laura Spanjian, a San Francisco-based Clinton delegate, who also supports the move.”

Clay Dougherty, another San Francisco delegate for Clinton, says that “if the situation were reversed, the Obama people would feel the same.”

Let’s imagine if the situation were reversed. Since Obama has asked that the FL and MI delegates be seated in full now, the magic number has reverted to the correct 2210. He does not possess that number. If Hillary did not have enough pledged delegates to seal the nomination — or super delegates for that matter, imagine if Hillary tried to prevent a roll call that would honor Barack’s historic candidacy. There would be hell to pay. And she would be paying it daily. Such behavior on her part would not be tolerated.

“For the first time in a generation, it’s been a close election … and this was such a unique situation,” he said, in which both the first major African American presidential candidate competed with the first major female presidential candidate. “We need to honor both candidates,” he said.

And many Democrats suggest that the move to accommodate her supporters may be politically smart…

[Texas Delegate Garry] Mauro insisted that since it was such a closely contested election, he is mystified as to why the Obama campaign is resisting and even balking at a roll call vote, according to some reports.

“Are these folks so new to politics, are they so arrogant that they think he’s different from every other nominee we’ve ever had?” he asks.

I guess I don’t need to answer Garry’s question.

Serrano Sewell even stated, in an attempt to assuage any worry on the part of the Obama camp, there is no connection between Hillary’s delegates and PUMA:

“We’re not trying to drag Obama down,” he said. “We’re Democrats. We’re precinct captains. We’re fundraisers. We’re the kind of Democrats Obama will need to win in November.”

Similar to Senator Obama’s lack of detailed understanding of foreign policy, so, too, his arrogance and political shortsightedness is clearly in evidence in preventing a roll call vote for Senator Clinton. Or shall I say, his fear is showing.

Again, this is not indicative of good leadership, of putting the country or the Party’s interests before his own.

A true leader would not wish to treat 18,000,000 voters and 1918 delegates disrespectfully. If, as Michelle Obama says, he is going to ‘heal our broken souls,’ how does he intend to do that by throwing millions under the bus in another show of pettiness, bullying and arrogance?

Regarding the current acts of Russian aggression, a true leader, as he claims to be, looking to demonstrate his readiness for the toughest job in the world, might stop to do his homework before realizing that the first “essay” he handed in was rather flimsy.

I know I am not wrong in wanting the truly qualified candidate to be our nominee. The one who needs no tutoring. Certainly, Hillary Clinton would know better than to do what Senator Obama did yesterday: indicate he would be announcing his pick for Vice President via text message. Some traditions do need to be adhered to. The world is watching.

Senator Obama’s action do not indicate respect – either for his V.P. choice, or for us.

That is not healing.

That does not indicate political knowledge, maturity or gravitas.

Lastly, that is certainly not good leadership. Hmm!! Ready to Lead on Day 1.

I am sticking by Obama. He is the one.

I'm for Obama 2008

How on earth can everybody say oh we can trust mccain. Change Obama skin and name to Charles Smith and take a look at his story (actually the American dream + instead of getting rich went to work for the poor...huh) Check Mccain's story (all of it) served valiantly, amazingly, can't even imagine what he went thru, next chapter cheats on wife (for the person who compared Obama to Edwards) talks so much trash about his now wife Im surprised any woman would vote him. Serves in the senate for AZ, check our issues out here...poor,schools, illegals, etc. 2000 goes against grain. Then sticks with the agenda of the current Pres. Please someone tell me if Mccain has flipped on current issues or if he took his eye of the ball Al-qaida (which destablized the middle east aka oil, gave Al-qaida another location)... think about if all the money that went in to Iraq went to catching terrorist and not creating them. Not let's not take a minute to think, let's challenge Iran and Russia. John is like a bad poker player, tough talk, but anyone who is actually tough i.e. Russia knows he is bluffing.

Ah envy and bitterness. First if the Clinton campaign had anything or if anybody did, they would have released it. Many of you want to dig, dig on Obama, take a look at Clinton and McCain. The key things are issues and fear (like the one post about Obama leading Hamas) with issues Clinton and McCain are opposites Clinton and Obama nearly the same, is it values, hmmm. Lets see how McCain did his first wife, or how he feels about equal rights for all humans? O it must be the pastor, wait McCain knowing what various preachers said still seeked their endorsment. Well lets play the fear card, he's exotic = doesn't look like you or me, he's inexperienced (best arguement except he was right about Iraq and surrounds himself with real experts not afraid to challenge him, and doesn't act like America is all powerful can do everything on its own), six degrees of seperation (more fear on which anyone can be tied to anyone) he flip flops (check Mcmain's flips since 2000- when he probably should of won) Issues people your issuses, veterans, middle class lower classes, vote on issues, nor fear or what FOX or with people with agendas say (PENN had an agenda) ISSUES.

There are so many doubts about Obama. We had a similar doubt about Edward and look what he did. I just can not think about Obama. Hillary would have been my first choice but in her absense, I can trust John but I can not trust Obama because of readiness as president of United States. Think.. This is top most important and critical role in US and in probably in world. With so many doubts about him and he changes position on every other day and call it is CHANGE... I wish Hillary should consider herself for independant candidate.

oBAMA'S WHOLE CAMPAIGN IS ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER, HIS CAMPAIGN IS NOT ABOUT HIM, IT IS ABOUT HOW WE AS AMERICANS SHOULD PARTICIPATE IN OUR GOVERNMENT PROCESS TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY BETTER. SEE WHILE THE REST OF THE WORLD IS WATCHING OUT FOR ITSELF AND ITSELF ONLY, WE ARE BICKERING INTERNALLY, WHILE THE PRESIDENT SELLS OFF THE COUNTRY PIECE BY PIECE, UNDERFUNDS THE DEPTS ESTABLISHED TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE AND HAS CLOSED OFF OPPORTUNITIES TO ADVANCEMENT FOR PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE....WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER AS AMERICANS DUMMY, OR OUR WAY OF LIFE AND FREEDOM WILL BE OWNED BY THE LIKES OF THE RUSSIANS OR WORSE CHINA OR SAUDI ARABIA....THEY ALREADY OWN 20-30% OF THE COUNTRY....THINK ABOUT IT..

Donna, Hillary is not going to be nominated anyway.

There wont be any thing released untill after the convention,to ensure that Hillary wont be NOMINATED! This Process Makes me SICK!!! So much corruption in the dem. party mis unreal!!! NOOOOOOOOOBAMA!!! NOT NOW ,NOT EVER! LEt HIM KEEP HIS CROOKED IN CHICAGO!!!!

Whatever may be was in the tape, Hillary did not return, that shows she did not want to destroy Obama like he did in Chicago.

DNC, it is not too late to nominate Hillary.

Remember Democrats ruled white house only 12 years out of last 40 years.
8 out of 12 arwe Clintons

So when are you going to publish memo's from the Obama camp? After all he is the presumptive nominee isn't he? It will be nice when November rolls around, McCain will win the election and maybe Obama can run to lead Hamas, they love him down there.

Obama takes no positions on anything. he's a fake. Are you guys seeing that now? Thank god the election takes several months. If it didn't that fake would've been elected based on his charm alone. This country is going down the drain fast.

Obama denied ever hearing an anti-american sermon by Rev. Wright. If the tapes exist showing him in the church during one of these sermons, than he has lied to the American people. That would pretty much end his campaign and his career.

I would like to see the tapes. Why shouldn't they release them and let the voters decide if his comments "don't square with his current stated views." Chances are, these tapes wouldn't hurt Obama any more than any other comments he's made over the past months.

so sad to want to seek and destroy an individual just because he brings all americans together

Posted by: Della | Aug 12, 2008 1:17:21 PM

I agree, Della. They should leave John McCain alone! He will be the next POTUS!

so sad to want to seek and destroy an individual just because he brings all americans together

Good Post, Alex.

The tapes of hussein's endless double-talk:

I will take public financing for my campaign-----I will NOT take public financing for my campaign.
Clinton's NAFTA is BAD-----Just kidding, NAFTA is GREAT.
I will get the troops home immediately-----I will NOT get the troops home immediately.
"I could no more disown him (rev. wright) than I could disown my ... grandmother."-----I DISOWN rev wright. (Look out grandma, you may be next!).
I support total gun control-----I do NOT support total gun control.
NO on offshore drilling-----YES on offshore drilling.
NO on tapping the strategic oil reserve-----YES on tapping the strategic oil reserve.
I don't need no stinkin' flag pin-----I NOW WEAR a flag pin since I'm now patriotic (wink, wink)!
No immunity for illegal wiretapping telcos-----I vote YES on Bush's immunity for illegal wiretapping telcos.

At last, I finally know what he really means by "change".
"Change we can NOT believe in."

Remember that guy who masqueraded as a "compassionate conservative" to get you to vote for him? Don't be duped by another chronic, habitual liar!

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Anyone who thinks McCain should be the next president is crazy!!! It will just be another 4 years of Bush. Which, I guess is good if you're rich, but for the rest of us it's hopeless.

Do we really need to rehash Hillary got the popular vote, blah, blah, blah. Again that's if you count Michigan and give no votes to Obama.....Hillary math.

Not sure what is contained in the tapes, but whatever it is, to be making headlines like it is now, I bet Obama is getting nervous. Obama had the support of the DNC in the primaries, now he is in the BIG league with the GOP. The GOP will uncover EVERY stone in Obama's life.....the TRUTH will come out.

The press found plenty to Wright-about and Obama lost 9 of the last 14 primaries, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and superdelegates showed their true colors. They chose wrong, and sacrificed the rules and democracy to secure a flawed candidate.

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | Aug 12, 2008 12:50:16 PM

Good post! This shows how Obama was "selected" but not "elected". The DNC had this planned all along and the StupidDelegates jumped on board because of pressure from the DNC. However, Clinton is roaring back now and I think it will be a different story at the Democractic Convention.

To find the tapes of the Reverend Wright, spiritual leader of the Obama-campaign and a close personal friend, all the press had to do was take a cab downtown Chicago and buy the Trinity Church DVD-collection. They didn't. Not until Texas when they noticed Clinton won elections, but Obama won delegates. (Just as the Senior Dems Mentor Program complete with old, white, rich guys wanted.)

The press found plenty to Wright-about and Obama lost 9 of the last 14 primaries, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and superdelegates showed their true colors. They chose wrong, and sacrificed the rules and democracy to secure a flawed candidate.

pp - You are, of course, assuming that all of that "information" is true. Since most of it is already "out," and people are ignoring it for the nonsense that it is, I wouldn't keep my hopes up for the ultimate "gotcha."

Posted by: jock59801 | Aug 12, 2008 11:35:46 AM
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jock59801...just like they ignored the Edwards affair because it was nonsense...right?

You failed to mention that "The Audicity of Hope" is #3.

#1` best selling NYT books

1. The Obama Nation
2. The Case Against Barack Obama
3. Fleeced

Its a shame the truth about Obama had to come out in books because the Media love affair with Obama prevented them to be objective.

Posted by: hardy | Aug 12, 2008 8:18:07 AM

I agree, but, as you can see, America is seeking the truth about this fake, Barack Obama. I don't see him winning in November.

jmc663: Patti Solis Doyle was asked to step down from her position on 2/10/08, but remained with the Clinton campaign at headquarters as a senior advisor... so she had access to those emails from March.

Wake up people - they are ALL corrupt and they ALL have their own agenda. It doesn't even matter who is President. The President doesn't run this country, MONEY does.

Many Hillary supporters think she took the right position at the beginning of the War on Terror, agree with her vote on Iraq, are happy to see that we are succeeding there, and believe the long-term benefits to our security will be tangible and significant.

Obama supporters are generally disinterested in success in Iraq, would rather we retreated all-of-a-piece in the first couple of months in 2009, and think America needs such a comeuppance and to acknowledge a diminished moral, economic and military leadership role in the world.

You guys are dreaming, or in denial, if you think Hillary will get the nomination at the convention.

jock59801...no assumption involved...the facts are there if you look.
votes at the convention...the delegates are chosen, but the superdellegates have not voted, only endorsed. it is different, and the vote at convention is secret ballot.

pp - Like I said: You are, of course, assuming that all of that "information" is true.

As for the vote at the convention: yes, it makes it official, but it is mostly the official tallying of elections already held, not any kind of revote. That's why we have a pretty good idea of the outcome.

marymark...though you would not notice it from bho's swagger, he is the "presumed" moninee. the vote is at the convention.

Why is the media so focused on the Clinton strategy when the Clinton campaign is over?! How about some memo's of the Obama camps stategy?How about the strategy to disassociate himself from shady Rezko,Ayers,Wright and what about the strategy to cover up a fake birth certificate?We all know the Clintons use dirty politics so its not like this comes as a shock to anyone. Big deal!
This is all an attempt to distract from the rookie and idiot Obama is.He has no new politics. With tensions in Russsia,North Korea,Afghanistan, and the epic Iraq war we are on the verge of serious trouble. We dont need an arrogant rookie by the red button who only cares about his own agenda and scripted speeches.An Obama administration would be thin on foreign policy.Listen to him talk when on the spot...ummmm,uh ,uh,ummmm,stutter stutter ,stutter....what a joke the DNC is.What a joke the party is....stupid idiots Pelosi,Dean and Brazile..youll pay for your errors in Nov..And to think they believe everyone will be singing the Koom -bah-yahs at the convention.....doesnt work that way....take it to the floor Hillary! Or McCain 08.....We need experience....the alternative is frightening

his citizenship will be a gotcha...the dems did not vet him, and are too far committed to drop him now, and the rnc has to wait till he is the nominee. bho can be challenged in any or all states for being eligible to run. there is plenty of information available to prove he is not. he may even be up for prosecution for his illinois senate seat. eligibility is often only checked when it is requested.

pp - You are, of course, assuming that all of that "information" is true. Since most of it is already "out," and people are ignoring it for the nonsense that it is, I wouldn't keep my hopes up for the ultimate "gotcha."

i agree that many of the bho are naive, or idol worshippers...if bho becomes the nominee and the rnc releases all the negative info there is on bho, he will be unfit for any office again...that includes the information regarding him being ineligible to run for office based on citizenship.

jeleanoro

Unfortunately for you, apparently, many of us Obama supporters are quite well informed, and are also not criticizing Hillary. Of course, there are all kinds in all "camps," and I doubt you want to be lumped in with many McCain supprters any more than I would.

I am so glad Obama won the nomination. Given that this was all for Primary season, you just have to kind of figure Clinton would be throwing everything now and McCain and we would be left with an even uglier nastier campaign! I don't think thats what America wants at all, and I think if Clinton were perceived to have started it, she would be punished in November.

I would like to know how the HELL the "McCain 08/Clinton 2012' believe they will get the REST of the Democratic Party to vote for Hillary in any future Primary? I'm a Democrat, and I want to see a Democrat in the White House cleaning up the mess made over the past 8 years -- not someone who thinks there IS no mess.

Further more, the articles on how things were in the Clinton Campaign Staff tells me she has NO management ability. We live in far too dangerous a world to have the sort of Administration, complete with drama queens and cabals, wasting time with their petty internal warfare.

Obama 08 and 12!

It's not about the better person winning, it's about making your opponent look so bad, that you look good in comparison.

Since when is a strategy to discredit someone by building fears among the American people based upon fabricated information and talking points an honorable thing to do? Shame on you Hillary - you are a discredit to America!

It's obvious that the tapes consist of Obama taking one position, say on marijuana legalization, and then another cut of him taking the exact opposite position.

On page 9, the memo states: "...and then if he denies he ever took all the other positions, release the tapes showing he was not straight with the voters. This could shake up the race."

McCain '08.

The New York news media has effectively shielded Obama from the normal scrutiny accorded presidential candidates ... so far. But as the National Enquirer expose of John Edwards shows, there are alternative medias and sooner or later the truth will out.

Soon, we may learn much of the other 95% there is to know about Obama. And since Obama and his pet propaganda organization (New York media) hasn't publicized it, it probably won't be pretty.

There is no way on the earth that America will elect Obama who is more popular in socialist Europe and anti-American countries.

I actually think this will help Hillary and hurt Obama. Something is brewing here...we're all being egged on by the press. They're letting this out,little by little. Hillary is not defeated......she is planning something and I think we will see a major shifting at the Convention...postive shift for Hillary, very negative shift for Obama!

Gregsmalltown,

You forgot to consider this: Many Clinton supporters simply do not trust Obama and prefer McCain. It's not a matter of intentionally destroying the Democratic Party, it's about voting for whom you belive will be the best president.

And many Clinton supporters believe that McCain is second best after Clinton, and not Obama.

Sorry you can't accept reality.

Unlike Obama, this proves that Hillary has class and american values that matter more to her than just winning.

It's clear this is coming out to try to keep Hillary off the roll call. It's convenient this is happening when Obama is out of town.

I wish Obama followers knew how corrupt he really is.

Were not tapes released at that time? (ie Rev. Wright) Bottom line; illegal war, economy sinking, oil companies in control, corruption......U.S. needs change....VOTE OBAMA

If anyone thinks Obama's guy, Axelrod, is any LESS sleazy that Hillary's FORMER guy, Penn, you're sorely mistaken.

I think I can hear the sounds of a shredder from Axelrod's office...

I think the GOP is waiting until after Obama is the nominee, after the convention, then they will release the tapes. That way, it will have a far more damaging effect on Obama. I dont see Obama winning in November...the Dems are not unified.

Again, I am mystified how Hillary supporters are so vilified against Obama and are now Pro-McCain just to "get back at the DNC". DUH. It was a VERY hard fought battle, but I don't see any cheating or "CONSPIRACY" against HRC. I think she stayed in and did ALOT of damage before she left and many in the DNC didn't like it. I didn't see any sexism that would have damaged HRC's chances (probably any sexism helped her gain supporters, like her negative messages helped Obama gain supporters). But to destroy the DNC because your candidate didn't win is political terrorism and you are no better for the political process than any of the villians that you mention. I swear you act like my kids when someone beats them on the Playstation (you cheated, you had the better controller, you had more time, blah blah blah. When you get to be an ADULT you don't always choose the path of Selfishness- you start to think of other people and what they want and need-like the country needs a democratic president. I have to look beyond my own prejudicies (growing up in a all-white county)and see the candidates for what they represent and the issues that they fight for. McCain would be a mega-disaster for many many people (maybe not me, but for many people that I care about - and you should care about them too...not just yourself).

Isn't this evidence that Hillary Clinton, despite all the stereotypes, is actually a fair person? If Penn wanted to let all the dogs loose on Obama and destroy him, it only makes sense that Hillary showed restraint. Hmm...so playing fair was more important than winning? That doesn't sound like the stereotype of Hillary.

I don't know whether this was supposed to further damage her reputation before the convention, but to be honest, it makes me LIKE her MORE.

JP,

"The tapes" contained recorded negative ads against Obama.

The same playbook Mccain is using against him.