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People in Glass Houses-Gate

August 21, 2008 7:59 PM

Our World News story on Sen. John McCain's gaffe can be watched HERE  or the ABCNews.com version is HERE.

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Nothing about McCain not giving the number of houses they own is relevant (most Cindy own) and nothing erases the horrific Saddleback Forum last weekend and Obama's horrible "nuanced" answers. Thank God, they are rerunning it on CNN all weekend!
McCain '08/Hillary '12

Posted by: Debra | Aug 22, 2008 12:38:19 AM

Peach, why did you leave out the part where McCain actually GOES to San Francisco on behalf of Keating, MEETS with the Regulators with the other 4 Senators, in a clear attempt to intimidate the regulators to back off?

McCain was there. At the meeting. There's no denying.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | Aug 22, 2008 12:31:06 AM

McCain's gaffe was not to tell the reporter "None of your beeswax how many homes I have!"
It was a below-the-belt punch meant to ambush McCain and doesn't merit a reply.
He should know he's dealing with a biased media, and a vicious klan. Blow them off and show your feisty self again!
So Obama claims he's in touch with voters because he has a mortgage. Not exactly.
A complaint is being filed with the FEC and the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Ethics about the sweetheart deal that Obama got on his $1.32 million mortgage. For this super super jumbo loan, he locked in a below average rate, and didn't have to pay origination fee or discount points. What does Northern Trust expect to get in return? It would be hard for the rest of us to shave off $125,000 in interest payment from heartless mortgage bankers.
You'd think investigative reporters would check this smelly deal instead of asking Gramps how many homes he has.
This election is historical in the way that American voters have to do their own research if they want a balanced report on the candidates.

Posted by: Donoke9-10 | Aug 22, 2008 12:28:28 AM

Yes, Mike - bad judgment by McCain with Keating 5, but not illegal.

Same as Obama and the Rezko deal. Bad judgment but not illegal.

Posted by: Peach | Aug 22, 2008 12:16:46 AM

kravitz: you forgot the one where cindy mccain said that she needed her private jet because it made it easier to get around arizona. like that tough ride from phoenix to sedona? do you need a private jet for that one? personally, i'm really hoping my ten-year old car will make it to reno so my daughter can see her grandfather. these people are so out of touch with reality it is almost unbelievable.

Posted by: mara | Aug 22, 2008 12:13:38 AM

Krista:

"This is definitely a display of poor judgment on McCain`s part. Not good for him considering the fact that he wants to be POTUS."

THIS OCCURRED IN 1987......

HOW MANY BONEHEADED STUNTS HAS OBAMA PULLED JUST SINCE HE ANNOUNCED HE WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE???


hmmmmm>

Posted by: eyes opening... | Aug 22, 2008 12:11:00 AM

eyes opening: John McCain thinks our economic problem (dropping house values, insane petroleum prices, higher food costs, whooping drops in retirement savings) are all "mental." He is simply too rich to even get it.

Posted by: mara | Aug 22, 2008 12:09:46 AM

Good Lord. How many Americans can possibly make that statement? 10? He REALLY REALLY REALLY doesn't get what it means to be an American. And this is the campaign that calls Obama an elitist?

Even beyond how hypocritical McCain is, is he really so stupid he couldn't censor himself before he made that statement? A president speaks for a nation. This man has absolutely no self-control. And I used to support him. The more I learn, the more appalled I am. He makes the Bush family look like middle class Americans.

Posted by: mara | Aug 22, 2008 12:06:57 AM

Governor Crist receives letter with nontoxic powder
The Associated Press
11:05 PM EDT, August 21, 2008
TALLAHASSEE - Authorities are investigating who sent Gov. Charlie Crist a threatening letter containing a suspicious white powder.

The letter, which tested nontoxic, was intercepted at the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's mail center at the state capitol. It was immediately sent to the Florida Department of Health for analysis, and preliminary results showed the substance wasn't harmful.

The threat was first reported by a South Florida newspaper on Thursday.

FDLE spokeswoman Heather Smith says investigators believe the letter was unrelated to one received at a John McCain office in Colorado. Smith says the FDLE is satisfied Crist is safe and secure.

Posted by: i am so I can!!!! | Aug 22, 2008 12:04:58 AM

kravitz is kraven...


I think it's terrific that McCain doesn't HAVE to worry about his personal economic problem,

He'll have all the more time and incentive to dwell on OURS!

We won't have to worry about earmarks and pork bellies winding up in his bank account!

I LIKE that in a candidate

Posted by: eyes opening... | Aug 22, 2008 12:04:19 AM

Peach,

Although not convicted of anything, McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. McCain has admitted to using his influence on behalf of Keating, meeting with regulators twice to press his case.

Cindy and her father got into a sweetheart deal with Keating on a shopping center and made a bundle. McCain got free trips from Keating that he only paid him back for after Keating started getting in trouble.

McCain said of his involvement - "it was the wrong thing to do". The ethics committee rebuked him for 'poor judgement'

Posted by: Mike | Aug 22, 2008 12:01:30 AM

I'm really disappointed that posters who scream about McCain and the Keating 5 don't take 5 minutes to educate themselves about that.

From Wikipedia:
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Anybody can jump on wikepidia and add their own version.

You forgot to ad the fact that McCain was proved to have misconducted himself in his involvement in this Keating 5 scandal.

This is definitely a display of poor judgment on McCain`s part. Not good for him considering the fact that he wants to be POTUS.

Posted by: Krista | Aug 21, 2008 11:56:08 PM

Peach...Bingo! This Obama mania is dividing us more than uniting us.

When Tipper Gore spoke about civility for a second I thought the US had a chance.

Disgusted and scared how will the world go on if Obama loses. And if McCain wins how will the poor survive. This is the most disturbing election season in my lifetime.

When will one of the folks sho gts the text message spill the beans.

Meanwhile the other news in America and the world is buried and we go down the primrose path to the brink of whatever...AGHHH

Posted by: i am so I can!!!! | Aug 21, 2008 11:52:53 PM

I've never seen as much class warfare as I've seen on some of these blogs. It's like a bunch of you are still living in your parent's house at age 30 only it's in the fake paneled basement with shag carpeting and you are posting while eating spam.

Posted by: Peach | Aug 21, 2008 11:45:11 PM

Again, for those so desperately trying to defend McCain...and being clearly unable to, here's the deal.

A site owned by a GOP supporting board asked McCain how many houses he owns. Politico is owned by a group that once owned ABC (Capital Cities).

McCain did not know the answer, and suggested his staff would find out what he owns. He mumbled something about condos. Talking Points Memo noted they bought a second beach front condo during a moment where McCain said Americans would have to cut back on vacations.

In a followup piece, Politico's Ken Vogel noted what Cindy McCain said in Vogue.
"When I bought the first one, my husband, who is not a beach person, said, 'Oh this is such a waste of money; the kids will never go,'" she said in Vogue. "Then it got to the point where they used it so much I couldn't get in the place. So I bought another one."

And oh yeah, Obama's wrong. It's EIGHT houses.

Today's New York Times has a piece on Aaron Spelling's widow Candy downsizing from her mansion to a $47 million condo in Los Angeles. It's the managing of the properties, cost of upkeep (and being alone in the house) making her choose to sell.

And in a big finally, Phil Gramm, McCain's economic policy advisor, has been a lobbyist for UBS, and international bank. UBS is the bank blamed for causing the subprime mortgage meltdown, using Gramm's advice. Gramm profited from the home forclosures. Worse still, his wife, Wendy Gramm, is a prime catalyst for the failure of Enron. She profited from that failure. So where Middle America needs their retirement funds and homes, Phil Gramm tells us to shut up and stop whining.

While McCain, too rich to bother counting his wealth, doesn't know how many millions he's spent on real estate. And doesn't care enough to have advisors willing to help the rest of us out of this mess. His little people didn't get back to Politico. They had to dig through the records to find what they could. Cindy McCain has not released her tax returns. Like the half sisters she suddenly turns out to have, who knows what else is buried in those things.

So ridiculous or minor, this issue is not.

John McCain is too rich to care how rich he is.

No one can justify such stupidity.

Posted by: kravitz | Aug 21, 2008 11:44:47 PM

Keating 5 from Wikipedia:

By March 1987, Keating and DeConcini were asking McCain to travel to San Francisco to meet with regulators regarding Lincoln Savings; McCain refused.[8][6] DeConcini told Keating that McCain was nervous about interfering.[6] Keating called McCain a "wimp" behind his back, and on March 24, Keating and McCain had a heated, contentious meeting.[8]

Ya'll are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. McCain was cleared of all wrongdoing in the Keating 5 mess.

Posted by: Peach | Aug 21, 2008 11:42:22 PM

I'm really disappointed that posters who scream about McCain and the Keating 5 don't take 5 minutes to educate themselves about that.

From Wikipedia:

The Ethics Committee ruled that the involvement of McCain in the scheme was also minimal, and he too was cleared of all charges against him.[18][17] McCain was criticized by the Committee for exercising "poor judgment" when he met with the federal regulators on Keating's behalf.[6] The report also said that McCain's "actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him....Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate."[14] On his Keating Five experience, McCain has said: "The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do."[6]

Several accounts of the controversy contend that McCain was included in the investigation primarily so that there would be at least one Republican target.[21][22][23][9]

The three who were charges were all -- ta da -- Democrats. I'm sure we're all shocked. /sarcasm

Posted by: Peach | Aug 21, 2008 11:39:40 PM

And Goon thi is somewhat different than what you pointed out.


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MIAMI (Reuters) - A man with self-described mental health problems was ordered held without bail in Florida on Thursday on charges that he had threatened to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama or President George W. Bush.

Raymond Hunter Geisel was arrested by the Secret Service in Miami on Saturday after making threats before other participants against both Bush and Obama at a bail bondsman's training course, according to federal court papers.

Posted by: i am so I can!!!! | Aug 21, 2008 11:38:43 PM

Goon...no ned to be so rude...I nevr saw that ...seems the media left that off the news too...

And you learn some manners.AH.

Posted by: i am so I can!!!! | Aug 21, 2008 11:36:38 PM

"One wonders howthis would be treated if it was Obama who recieved a death threatening letter that contained white powder."

Don't act like you're special. I mean seriously, there was that guy picked up in Florida just last week who was planning on killing Obama. Shut up.

Posted by: Goon | Aug 21, 2008 11:28:52 PM

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