Republicans to Kick Obama's Tires

John, why not. After all, inflating tires gets us as much 'mileage' as McCains oil leases. So if inflating tires is utter nonsense, offshore oil drilling is so insignificant that it is nonsense as well. That was Obama's original point. Its even worse, since giving oil companies offshore leases in no way insures actual drilling, as we all know.

Obama's scornful dismissal of McCain's plan by comparing it to inflating tires is pretty much on the mark.

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First of all, inflating tires WON'T save the amount of oil that could be extracted from the OCS (please read Jake's post above that indicates Obama's "original point" is wrong). Second, is the government going to mandate tire inflation standards and then be able to make sure everyone complies? That is totally unrealistic. Third, you're saying the government shouldn't grant oil leases because the oil companies might not drill there anyway. That is absurd.

I think you're missing the CONTEXT here. Of course everyone admits that properly inflating your tires is a good idea. But to make it part of a plan to break our dependence on foreign oil is utter nonsense - and justifiably scorned.
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John, why not. After all, inflating tires gets us as much 'mileage' as McCains oil leases. So if inflating tires is utter nonsense, offshore oil drilling is so insignificant that it is nonsense as well. That was Obama's original point. Its even worse, since giving oil companies offshore leases in no way insures actual drilling, as we all know.

Obama's scornful dismissal of McCain's plan by comparing it to inflating tires is pretty much on the mark.

"Keep in mind, we are only 5% of the world population, but we consume 25% of the oil. Does that sound right to you?"

This statement galls me to no end! Yeah we may use 25% of oil but we supply ALL OF THE ASSISTANCE to anyone who is in need. We are the LEADING nation in disaster assistance as well as other humanitarian concerns. We are the leading supplier of food and other resources throughout the world. We seem to be defending every half wit dictator around the world. We never say no when someone asks us for help. WE supply most of not all of the technology to these other countries to get their dang oil out of the ground in the first place. HELL they should be GIVING US OIL for God's sake just out of gratitude! But what do we get from our so called leaders? AMERICA SUCKS! Well I do not believe AMERICA SUCKS! In fact if AMERICA would stop doing what AMERICA does best the rest of the world would fade into oblivion IMO!

Con me not, are you aware of the latest tests that show ethanol gives off basically the same amount of carbon dioxide as gasoline? Furthermore, the EPA has admitted that ethanol produces MORE hydrocarbons, oxides of nitgrogen, and ozone than regular gasoline. So much for emitting fewer greenhouse emissions.

But there are other negatives regarding ethanol:
1. The corrosive properties of ethanol reduce mileage and horsepower;
2. The promotion of ethanol has caused the price of corn to skyrocket world wide (a real pinch for the poor who rely on corn);
3. Ethanol is more expensive to produce and furnishes fewer miles per gallon;
4. Ethanol takes more energy to grow the corn and distilling the corn than you can get from burning the fuel;
5. Ethanol requires between 3.5 and 6 gallons of water to produce one gallon of ethanol;
5. Brazil is further depleting its rainforest in order to produce ethanol.

Wow! Sounds like a real winner to me...NOT!

Obama has enough "hot air" to fill every tire in America.

Republicans don't want to see oil go down. They would rather see mainstream America suffer than see their oil profits go down on their investments. They fight alternative energy sources. mccain has repeatedly tried to kill the manufacture of ethanol. I guess he doesn't like farmers either. ethanol.com

The air pressure recommendation comes from the U.S. Energy Dept. and the EPA. It's also been suggested by NASCAR and the Rebublican
Governors of California and Florida.

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I think you're missing the CONTEXT here. Of course everyone admits that properly inflating your tires is a good idea. But to make it part of a plan to break our dependence on foreign oil is utter nonsense - and justifiably scorned.

Love it! Wish they would sell them - I would buy one for sure!

bhrandom:

Come Come!
"what are you even talking about

mccain put obamas face on a dollar bill, mccain has interjected race into the election, he does it and then when obama responds, he claims it was obama"

It WAS Obama who started it!

He plastered his face and ears over his presumptuously re-designed Presidential Seal.

But when McCain carried the joke further... and put his face on a HUNDRED dollar bill.... Obama cries RACISM!

Frankly, I think it was very kind of McCain to portray Obama on the face of a C-Note; I would not have been so generous.

CLINTON OR MCCAIN

BUT ALWAYS

COUNTRY OVER BROKEN DOWN DNC WITH IT'S PLETHORA OF WHINERS AND SERIOUS LACK OF A SENSE OF HUMOR!

well Bill.
"Even if they wanted to drill the offshore sites in question, the amount of oil added to the market in 10 years will be dwarfed by the demand expected to be coming out of China and India"

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Don't be so pessimistic!

What if we drilled... kept the work on this side of the globe..... and then... KEPT THE OIL ON THIS SIDE OF THE GLOBE?

There's usually more than one workable scenario for a solution.... but the hardest part is GETTING STARTED!!!!!

In the meantime, we could keep our tires inflated and our engines A-plus rated...... but we need to start drilling not only for OIL but for GAS as well.

And look to Japan to see some of the fantastic ideas they've come up with to beat the energy crunch!

And incentives like McCain's for the battery of the future.... is another fine idea!

just thinking,

I still maintain that riley is not a racist for saying that someone looks different and has a funny name. Get it? Riley is NOT a racist. NOT. A. RACIST. Okay?

Riley is not a racist.

The same poltical hacks who told us that all we had to do after 9/11 was go shopping is now deriding the idea that we can take individual action to increase fuel efficiency. The frat boys have moved from the perpetual Bush/Rove campaign over to McSame's hdqs.

The air pressure recommendation comes from the U.S. Energy Dept. and the EPA. It's also been suggested by NASCAR and the Rebublican
Governors of California and Florida.

if everyone kept their tires properly inflated, by 2032 we'd have saved about 7 billion barrels of oil ...
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And wasted an equivalent volume of compressed air, no doubt. THAT stuff's gotta come from somewhere, and probably arrives at the gas station or garage by means of petro-transportation :^)

oh yeah, and:

if everyone kept their tires properly inflated, by 2032 we'd have saved about 7 billion barrels of oil (800,000*365*24). which is about as much oil as is technically recoverable in all of the part of ANWR that the GOP wants so bad to drill into, whose output would peak around 2030 or so.

"It isn't "reasonably achievable" or "assuming responsibility" to keep your tires inflated?"

Quoting out of context? The mail said that is exactly personal responsibility. The quote was aimed at the problem of the national situation with respect to reducing dependence while simultaneouly reducing emissions. We have to do both because otherwise we reduce usage while simultaneously paying India and China to do the same. In effect, we put the strap to the backs of the Americans.

I don't think once they realize that, they'll be too happy about it. If we want to reduce emissions AND dependence, we have to reduce consumption and that means alternative energy sources with lower carbon footprints. We've no choice but to solve the hard problems at the national scale. So I'm looking for 'reasonable means' from the government. Right now, nuclear is the first best option followed by the investments in alternative fuels. We know the hybrids and the EVs work. The trick is to make them affordable.

But cars aren't our only problem.

What do we about the very big very electicity hungry server farms that make the web possible? Metered usage?

No free lunch.

"Riddle me that. The US is allowed to switch to nuclear energy but NK and Iran are not?"

We already have the bombs. And if you think playing fair is how the world stays secure, there is a place in the SF Haight museum for you. If society was a purely we all just get along kind of place, we wouldn't need governments. Since we've had them as long as we've had organized society, the case is clear.

Scale is affordability. Is the case for the EV the same as the cost of electrical consumption climbs?

I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I'm looking at Obama's projected timelines and investments and they seem to be timed to ensure a second term not results beyond personal responsibility.

"MI and FL moved ahead of dates in direct violation of the party rules. THEY did it to themselves"

That's not the point. The point is Obama is being the world's biggest hypocrite after the Saturday DNC Massacree. Clinton won in popular votes. The jiggered those states to push Obama over the top. Now he wants to rejigger them to beat McCain.

The man has no experience, no scruples, and no chance. America is going to send him back to Chicago with his phony seal, his phony deals, and no wheels.

Anyone who read Exxon's quarterly report would not be calling for more drilling. They readily admit they are not drilling at capacity. Even if they wanted to drill the offshore sites in question, the amount of oil added to the market in 10 years will be dwarfed by the demand expected to be coming out of China and India. In short, another dumb idea proposed by Republicans because it sounds good, and they can trick their gullible voters into believing it is "common sense."

That Republicans would mock Obama's real common sense solutions, one of which would save 800,000 barrels a day at no cost, is evidence of their pettiness, immaturity, and lack of ideas. Republicans: great at campaigning, terrible at governing.

"the situation for everybody not belonging to the top 10% is dismal."
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Unfortunately, all the politicians are IN the top 10%, and most of them have NO understanding of NOT being in it.

When winter comes, the situation for many will go from dismal to desperate.

John Edwards is the only politician on the national scene who isn't embarrassed by the very SUBJECT of poverty. AND he's the only presidential candidate who promised to end the domestic spying which has infiltrated every facet of personal and political life for EVERYone.

The CHANGEling's birthday suit is no substitute for substance. If the Democrats nominate him, all that will happen to THEM is they'll lose ANOTHER election. What will happen to the poor, however, is nearly unthinkable.

The best thing for the Democratic delegates to do is to throw off their corrupt "leadership", and nominate John Edwards.

Well, I guess his poll numbers are worrying him. He is turning in his tire gauge, and is "open" to off shore drilling. Everyday, this guy shows us what a typical politician he is, even though he continues to hand out the kool aid, saying he is not. While Hillary, the one he painted as "the one who would do anything to get elected", shows us she is the heart and conscience of the american people. Guess that explains why the PUMA movement and The Denver Group continue to grow.

ChrisNBama wrote:

There's isn't a short term solution to the energy crisis we're in. Additional drilling is not a short term fix. We will not reap dividends for that for another 7-10 years.

In the meantime, conservation is the answer until adequate green technologies come on line.

Anyone who's saying additional drilling is a "short term fix" is lying. Period.

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You are sorely mistaken. Any signal to the markets that we would dramatically increase domestic oil production would make the price drop like a rock. "Green technologies" will never be adequate to meet America's energy demands. And my brother, who designs oil platforms, would laugh at anyone who suggested it would take 7-10 year to extract oil from the OCS. It's more like two years.

Anyone who's saying additional drilling is NOT a "short-term fix" is lying. Period.