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Rush Puts Kibosh on VP Ridge or Lieberman

August 19, 2008 3:09 PM

"Now, the drive-bys, when it comes to (Sen. John) McCain, are all excited that he might choose a pro-choice and/or liberal pro-choice running mate," conservative talk radio giant Rush Limbaugh said today.

“This is crap," he continued. "What is this about picking a liberal Democrat or a liberal Republican? McCain has already seen to it that he can walk across the aisle that he’s the top of the ticket. If anybody is going to attract moderates it’s going to be the top of the ticket guy. He’s not going to help himself any additional way, he’s going to hurt himself by putting a liberal or a liberal Republican on this ticket, particularly pro-choice.  If they do that, if the McCain camp does that, they will have effectively destroyed the Republican party and pushed the conservative movement into the bleachers."

Strong words.

Limbaugh ran a clip of liberal Newsweek commentator Jonathan Alter suggesting that after McCain floated a trial balloon about a pro-choice running mate the blowback from conservatives "wasn't really that big."

"It wasn't really that big?" asked Limbaugh incredulously. "See, the drive-bys are just hoping for this. They are just hoping for it because they know it’s not just a few loudmouths in the base. They know the base will totally turn on McCain if this is the case… It's not that they want someone who's pro-choice on McCain's ticket.  … It's not about them being true to believe, it’s about finding a way to persuade McCain to make a decision that will guarantee his defeat.”

"McCain, if he does this to please the drive-bys or for whatever advice -- I can't imagine the people around McCain are this dumb, but they might be a bunch of yes men," Limbaugh continued. "If he picks a pro-choice running mate, it's not going to be pretty and the drive-bys know it, and they're trying to encourage him to do so. It's amazing, all of these drive-byers, who by the way folks know nothing about us.  They don't know what makes us tick, we're aliens to them.  And they think that we're gonna at the end of the day sit around and vote for McCain regardless.  And this is where the miscalculation is huge."

Limbaugh suggested "someone like Rick Santorum other than Tom Ridge. How about some discussion from the McCain campaign about a conservative who can be counted on across the board, who can help lead the country in the right direction. Who can help rebuild the Republican party — Lieberman can’t do that - and rebuild the conservative movement - neither McCain nor Lieberman nor Ridge can do that.”

- jpt

August 19, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (56)

User Comments

OH PLEASE mccain pick liberman so fat ole rush can pretty much crawl under the hole he came out of give him more reasons to pop his pills the drug addict he is ha ha ha LOVE IT!!!

Posted by: angie | Aug 20, 2008 2:23:30 PM

If you want to rebuild the party cut loose Rush and his neo-con friends. The party ha goon so far right catering only the the fundamentalist extremists of the religiou right. That is the only group that is exerting any kind of influence. Wake up. Middle America is not interested in extremism. If McCain want to elect a Ridge or Lieberman then so be it. A leader is not going to let a Limbaugh or any one else determine who their selection is going to be. If they are a leader of course. McCain has much more to lose than Ruh does.

Posted by: dan k | Aug 20, 2008 11:29:43 AM

If you want to rebuild the party cut loose Rush and his neo-con friends. The party ha goon so far right catering only the the fundamentalist extremists of the religiou right. That is the only group that is exerting any kind of influence. Wake up. Middle America is not interested in extremism. If McCain want to elect a Ridge or Lieberman then so be it. A leader is not going to let a Limbaugh or any one else determine who their selection is going to be. If they are a leader of course. Rush ha nothing to lose here but McCain does.

Posted by: Dan K | Aug 20, 2008 11:27:50 AM

I think Leiberman and McCain represent moderate, middle-american values. Obama is far off the the left and Rush is far to the right. But in the middle is where the winner lies.

Posted by: Doc Savage | Aug 20, 2008 10:54:36 AM

If McCain picks pro-lifer, he wins this election big.

If not, he loses all that he just picked up.

Posted by: drjohn | Aug 20, 2008 9:47:19 AM

So Rush Limbaugh is interested in "rebuilding the Republican party" his own Neocon ideology ruined? Blaming the "liberals" and the "far left" for the tailspin the right has foisted on America seems to be working on lots of people though--why "rebuild"? Just keep it going. There're still cliffs left for Limbaugh's demo to lead America off of, McCain being one.

Posted by: ChristianEcon | Aug 20, 2008 8:04:30 AM

McCain and Lieberman would make a good pair for sure. Good riddence from the democratic party. You can have him.

Posted by: phyllis | Aug 19, 2008 10:39:21 PM

"When it became clear that McCain would get the nomination and not Romney, Limbaugh was frothing at the mouth about it. He - and every other loud mouth talk show radio host - said it would be the end of the GOP."

limbaugh does best personify what the GOP has become. and he brings its end. his massive uncontested soapbox was instrumental in purging nearly all moderates and replacing them with corrupt and incompetent sycophants that have ensured its demise as a major party. his problem with mccain is that he's not on the limbaugh bandwagon and can't be trusted to carry on the bush dynasty. but mccain is coming around and they'll meet half way. limbaugh really does know what the GOP is up to, though perhaps not the electorate- he is often given inside tips to break so he can maintain his "all knowing" status. he does the groundwork-to know what the GOP is planning listen to rush, if you can keep from throwing up.

Posted by: trank | Aug 19, 2008 9:08:33 PM

"limbaugh knows, he represents the GOP principles and morals better than anyone else"

When it became clear that McCain would get the nomination and not Romney, Limbaugh was frothing at the mouth about it. He - and every other loud mouth talk show radio host - said it would be the end of the GOP.

Yet the voters nominated McCain.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | Aug 19, 2008 7:59:10 PM

Cameron Palm: Did anyone see Mccain last saturday? he did a great job playing to true americans. And if he picks romney, he will shore up that vote solidly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Please explain to me what or who true americans are. Are they only white, christian conservatives? I really would like to know.

Posted by: Allison | Aug 19, 2008 7:33:10 PM

Oh please pick Romney so his out sourcing of thousands of good paying American jobs to overseas will finally be publicized!
Oh we can hope ;)

Posted by: tinat | Aug 19, 2008 7:19:27 PM

limbaugh knows, he represents the GOP principles and morals better than anyone else. and he'll be on board with mccain by the time the election comes around. he has more political power than anyone else in the country as leader of the talk radio monopoly that basically determines what is and what isn't acceptable in American media. and the last 20 years, since reagan killed the Fairness Doctrine, the talk radio monopoly is more responsible than anything else for getting the GOP and the country to this glorious point in our history. really. rush was vastly underpaid at 1/2$BIL considering the tax breaks, deregulation, and defense contracts he created a market for. rove may have been the architect but it was limbaugh and co who did all the heavy lifting. limbaugh knows.

Posted by: trank | Aug 19, 2008 6:51:50 PM

"If you are not a conservative Christian you have no clue as to what Rush is talking about."

Oh yes we do. Rush is an agent of intolerance and hate. He's a false ‘prophet’.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | Aug 19, 2008 5:55:38 PM

It is fascinating. The story of the Democratic convention may well be a party coming together. Does McCain seriously want to risk juxtaposing that with a party falling apart at the seams in the next week? If McCain is serious, then I think neither Lieberman or Ridge should be close to the pick.

I think part of McCain's problem is the thinness of quality in the GOP right now. None of those who shared the stage with McCain in the primary season would even be making the race close right now. Is there any reason why neither Fred Thompson or Mike Huckabee are being mentioned for VP at the moment?

Posted by: markymark | Aug 19, 2008 5:36:18 PM

Right, just like all the conservatives who vowed they would "never vote for McCain" who are now all lined up behind him like the authoritarian sycophants they are. Rush carries water for the GOP, as he readily admitted, end of story. If the GOP candidate puts a pro-choicer on the ticket, Rush feigns outrage for a week then jumps in line.

Posted by: Seamus | Aug 19, 2008 5:35:03 PM

If you are not a conservative Christian you have no clue as to what Rush is talking about. If you have a moral compass that has a relative bearing because it is not founded upon God's word, you do not have a clue as to what drives the conservative Christian to vote for one candidate or another. If you vote with your pocket book in mind and for how many freebees the government is going to give you, then you do not have a clue what Rush is talking about. It is very apparent the majority of Bloggers on this site do not have a clue what conservative Christianity is about. Your too engulfed in worldly matters to understand. VP choices will play a huge roll in how conservative Christians will vote. As I see it – Obama is a definite: NO Mc Cain is maybe depending on the candidates choice of running mates. If Obama chooses Hillary for a running partner then I will be voting for Mc Cain regardless of who he picks for VP. If Mc Cain picks a Pro-Choice or liberal VP I will either vote for a third party candidate or write in "Nobody."

Bottom Line, if you can get past Rush's narcissism, he is right on target with his assessment of the conservative Christian vote.

Posted by: Dana Pintago | Aug 19, 2008 5:21:29 PM

McCain should pick Carla Fiorina for VP.

Posted by: hype bites | Aug 19, 2008 5:09:18 PM

Moderate? McCain? Funny line. He wants to criminalize abortion and bring back the good ol days of women being second class citizens. He's a male chauvinist pig if there ever was one.

Posted by: Javalation | Aug 19, 2008 5:05:27 PM

Republicans should have chose Dr. Paul. As much as it pains me to see another Texas republican, Paul had some very good stances.

Posted by: Huh | Aug 19, 2008 4:53:00 PM

limbaugh is just something like howard stern--a little sleezy and a lot of foul wind.

Posted by: rodney | Aug 19, 2008 4:46:35 PM

This guy Rush sounds like a dope. What is he talking about? What are the drive-bys? Is this some kind of cult or what/

Posted by: Flash Override | Aug 19, 2008 4:45:21 PM

The death of the conservative/ Republican Party would mean we are socialists, Think before you wish.Is that what anyone besides Obama wants?

Posted by: pamela | Aug 19, 2008 4:44:43 PM

Rush is so far removed from reality it's really ridiculous. I know there are many people who sadly listen to the rantings of this hate-monger, but the idea that there are any "liberal" Democrats or Republicans serving in either house of Congress is a real stretch for some of us. Granted if being pro-choice earns one the label "liberal," then I suppose there are a good many. Lieberman and Ridge are both far from anything I would describe as "liberal." Lieberman would not be a good choice for either party. He's just plain horrid and represents my state.

Posted by: mary | Aug 19, 2008 4:43:51 PM

Look I think Obama would be less likely to get us into world war 3 then McCain., But I wish he would slow down on the spending., he has already spent a record amount and he hasnt even gotten in office., slow down mr Obama. We are broke.

I love Huckabee the Macabee It seems the Jews love Huckabee, McCain should pick him as VP or risk losing alot of voters if they dont. Some Huckabee supporters are so disillusioned by the GOP and the McCain camp they actually are asking Huckabee to leave the GOP.

Posted by: Peter | Aug 19, 2008 4:41:14 PM

I'm sure the McCain campaign appreciates the input of Rush and will seriously consider his advice. Limbaugh is as vociferous and hyperkinetic in his speech as ever. I tend to suspect he's still inspired by prescription meds.

Posted by: kat | Aug 19, 2008 4:29:46 PM

I can no longer stomach neocons posing as republicans. They are corporatists. They will increase spending for imperial wars for the benefit of corporate sponsors. These are not the conservative values i support. you can no longer pull the wool over my eyes by being pro-life. i am beginning to see the hypocrisy of claiming pro-life while invading nations in wars of choice. They are no longer standing for defense. they are now standing for offense. Doing the same kinds of military invasions as Russia. why do you think russia said US should support us like we did them in Iraq. Maybe the terrorists see us in Iraq the same as they saw Russia in Afghanistan. maybe under the neocons (wolves in sheep clothing) they are right. i guess i will have to write in Ronald Reagan or Teddy Roosevelt this year and hope for better choices next election

Posted by: d.d. | Aug 19, 2008 4:25:50 PM

What's a "drive-by"?

Posted by: Bob | Aug 19, 2008 4:25:02 PM

This moderate is going to vote for Ron Paul, my way of saying none of the above. We have spent our way into oblivion with no manufacturing base to help us back out.

Posted by: George Chapman | Aug 19, 2008 4:24:46 PM

Rush was 100% correct on Lieberman or Ridge. Lieberman is great but he is a Democrat - old grard and great - but still a Democrat. Tom Ridge could not be a worse choice. He is the ultimate in empty suits. He had a chance to secure our borders and did nothing... he even said he was going to do nothing. Now we have millions and millions of felons stealing identities and filling our jails and jamming our hospitals and schools. And We the people are paying dearly in lost wages and lost environment. Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee are the only sensible choices for McCain.

Posted by: Bill | Aug 19, 2008 4:23:23 PM

Mitt Romney is McCain's best available choice for running mate.
Obama seems to have stalled in the brains department and everyone knows he a windbag, like Wright.

Posted by: Larry | Aug 19, 2008 4:22:42 PM

McCain's only pick left is Pawlenty. Pawlenty is a HUGE social liberal and is 'young and inexperienced'. McCain just lost.

Posted by: Bill | Aug 19, 2008 4:20:09 PM

If mccain picks romney, i'll not just vote for the guy, i'll donate and campaign for him.

Did anyone see Mccain last saturday? he did a great job playing to true americans. And if he picks romney, he will shore up that vote solidly.

Posted by: cameron palm | Aug 19, 2008 4:18:13 PM

Bla, Bla, Bla, Bla! Nothing but rhetoric. Let's have something more concrete. Why do we have to be so damned conservative. Look what has happened during the past 8 years. War we did not need, almost 3,ooo dead service men and women, and a debt of over 3 trillion dollars. Being a senior citizen and Navy veteran I say, "GIVE ME A BREAK."

Posted by: Anthony L. Milano | Aug 19, 2008 4:17:53 PM

Rush Limbaugh has a following. I quit listening to him five or six years ago, but he CAN be entertaining.

However, he would do well to realize that America needs to move to the center for a change... a REAL "change"!

I've heard enough right-wing and left-wing rhetoric (and hatred) to last a lifetime.

Let's try a NEW direction that the REST of us can believe in!

Posted by: Rhys | Aug 19, 2008 4:17:32 PM

David NH - Last I heard Rush still has 20 million listeners and he has signed a > $300 million contract. Not a bad job to do from a cell, eh?

Posted by: Frustrated Voter | Aug 19, 2008 4:13:58 PM

Rush has spoken so commence with your marching orders

Posted by: dan | Aug 19, 2008 4:10:25 PM

"Thinking", I agree, but you didn't go far enough.

Isn't it reasonable to assume that almost everyone already knows who they will vote against? (There isn't anyone worth voting FOR.)

The fatigue you mentioned applies to almost all "election news", simply because there ISN'T any "news"!

Posted by: Rhys | Aug 19, 2008 4:09:44 PM

well if obama did not pick Biden and picked someone like Kaine then I could see Mccain getting cover to pick a Ridge (especially because a McCain Ridge, 2 vets on the ticket would kick Kaine's but in Virginia)

but if Biden's on the ticket Rush may have soem weight.

Posted by: dl | Aug 19, 2008 4:04:43 PM

well whoever if both of these clowns do not name their picks soon no one will care anymore.

Election, and VP fatigue is setting in. Let's get this over with and move on.

Posted by: Thinking | Aug 19, 2008 4:03:49 PM

Hello, Vanessa!

Yes, Bush has taken the Republican Party so far to the right that McCain is having a VERY hard time dragging it back, kicking and screaming all the way.

McCain is caught between a rock and a hard place; does he want the theocrats' votes? Or does he want us moderates to vote for him? He can't have BOTH!

Posted by: Rhys | Aug 19, 2008 3:58:49 PM

Increase in budget over the current Bush budget according to cnn last year

Obama +250 billion
Clinton +240 billion
McCain +60 billion
Paul -150 billion

The choice was obvious. He is now out of the race. Ultimately, it is up to congress to spend money. We will see what happens.

Posted by: antenian | Aug 19, 2008 3:58:42 PM

Why would anyone think a hedge fund manager like Romney would have any authority to cure the nation's economic ills?

The Wall Street insiders are the very people who have skirted regulations, leaving us with a collapsing banking sector and securities firms in collapse.

Exactly what we don't need.

Posted by: George Bishopric | Aug 19, 2008 3:57:39 PM

McCain knows the spending has to stop...he said so in Warren's forum the other night.....as for the religious right and abortion...it's too bad it always comes back to this. I'm a pro-choice republican who won't care who McCain picks as VP, as he has my vote anyway, but I'd like Romney's fiscal experience...he knows how to turn a profit and would balance McCain nicely.
Don't care about any old film of them bickering/competing during the primaries....we saw it with Nobama and Hill too (although she will never be VP pick for BO). I'd actually love McCain to pick Hillary. But McCain and ANYBODY is better than Nobama and Biden (who I also like).

Posted by: Debra | Aug 19, 2008 3:54:15 PM

hahaha... the republicn party have gone completely nuts.

Posted by: Vanessa | Aug 19, 2008 3:53:00 PM

Yea please take Hutchinson. Get that painted face out of Texas politics.

Posted by: Thinking | Aug 19, 2008 3:51:30 PM

Rush Limbaugh is understandably concerned that the conservative movement in the Republican Party may be in trouble. I hope so! The Republican Party is SUPPOSED to be "conservative", but not ULTRA-conservative and theocratic!

If McCain can figure a way to bring the Republican Party back closer to the political center, he could attract enough "undecided" voters to defeat BHO.

But if McCain picks a far-right extremist, he may get the votes of the so-called Religious Right, but will lose the moderates.

With a far-left opponent like Obama, McCain needs to be moderate; everyone is tired of the far-right. If anyone has "destroyed" the Republican Party, it's George W. Bush and his religious zealots or "Theocons".

Posted by: Rhys | Aug 19, 2008 3:50:53 PM

McWBush is toasted, he cannot select a pro-choice running mate, that is out of question, he cannot chose Romney who is a mormon because he is now in the hands of faith based evangelicals and will not be able to run away anymore from them. God save America from a president with a very low IQ.

Posted by: BKMC | Aug 19, 2008 3:47:00 PM

Is that idiot still on the air? Or does he do his show from a cell?
I wouldn't think he'd dare to preach that filth anymore. His core beliefs and drugs are lower than most NORMAL people could expect.
Go ask Dr. Phil to get you another refill.

Posted by: DAVID NH | Aug 19, 2008 3:40:07 PM

marylou - I am going to have to go 3rd party this time. I will no longer vote for anyone owned by special interest. If McCain is for fiscal responsibility then I wish him luck. All I heard out of him is bellicose statements towards other nations through which, if more war occurs, will increase borrowing, thus higher inflation, and ultimately more poverty. I just don't like McCain's attitude, sorry.

Posted by: Ben Straub | Aug 19, 2008 3:39:25 PM

I just can't imagine McCain making a pro-choice selection for VP. He would have to be pretty stubborn and I think would totally destroy any progress he has made in the past few months with pro-life supporters.

Posted by: JL | Aug 19, 2008 3:39:00 PM

The best thing that could happen to this country is the death of the conservative / republican party.

Posted by: jen | Aug 19, 2008 3:34:55 PM

Ben, then you should like McCain. He'll steer the country back on the path of fiscal responsibility.

Posted by: marylou | Aug 19, 2008 3:31:23 PM

I don't think I could vote for a ticket with a pro-choice VP. Senator Hutchinson from Texas would be a wonderful choice.

Posted by: rose | Aug 19, 2008 3:30:27 PM

McCain IS a liberal war HAWK, and Obama is imitating him and his bellicose support for more wars and fleecing of America. How's your checkbook? Can you and your kids afford to pay your bill for the dream worldwide occupation championed by Bush, er McCain and Obama who wants to repeat the Russian folly of occupying Afghanistan? It's your vote, it's your call!

Posted by: ick! | Aug 19, 2008 3:30:06 PM

I hope McCain picks Romney; I think they'd make a nicely balanced ticket.

Posted by: marylou | Aug 19, 2008 3:30:05 PM

I thought the last 8 years have destroyed the rep party. If you want to rebuild the conservatism of the republican party quit spending so much borrowed money.

Posted by: Ben Straub | Aug 19, 2008 3:26:21 PM

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