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August 08, 2008 9:22 AM

From the left….Talking Points Memo has compiled a low-lites video of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz, appearing "dazed and confused" on the stump -- though it's what Brit Hume called a "senior moment," not cannabis, that Democrats suggest is at play. Watch HERE.

From the right….Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, tells a 7-year-old Hoosier he’s running for president because “America is no longer what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself: I don’t want that future for my children.” Watch HERE.

Hat tip Mike Allen --

- jpt

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For those of you too young to know better, an American President should have the wisdom, strength of character and experience to lead this country. Those traits need to be especially strong during times of war and economic uncertainty. Therefore, repeat after me, NOBAMA. Country first: John McCain.

Posted by: FlaLady | Aug 12, 2008 8:43:10 AM

Class war by darwin. Thanks alot.

Left to its own the free market will destroy all competition and monopolize.

Government is more efficient that private corporations - just look at health care. We pay more and get less than anyone on earth.

Some of us believe that governments are created in order to provide for the common welfare.

Then there are Republicans, who believe that government exists to give away our common heritage to private interests, socializing the burdens and privitizing the profits.

Businesses have no right to a profit. They have no right to existence outisde of the common welfare. Pull their charters and take their assets!

Posted by: Mike | Aug 10, 2008 4:18:53 PM

John McCain is a complete embarassment! If he's this bad now and manages to win just think about what he'll be like as he ages at the faster rate that seems to happen in the White House.

He is as bad as Bush, both in policy and in "cringe factor".

Posted by: Janet | Aug 9, 2008 3:08:54 PM

Returning money to the people that earned it is the only way to ensure econonmic viability while tempering the growth of government. Governments job isn't to care for us, it's to protect us.

Let people keep their own money and you'd be surprised what they can afford. Keep government out of business, and you'd be surprised how well competition and the free market works in not only providing good products and services, but keeping prices down.

Instead of asking for more free programs and saddling people with higher and higher taxes, and less and less freedom of choice ... people should be demanding government get out of the business of running our lifes.

Less taxes for the government also means there's less of our money for them to spend on earmarks and their pet projects ... designed solely to garner campaign funds and votes.

It's the government that should be tightening it's belt. Too many bureaucrats live off the taxpayer dime. They need to out in the real world with the rest of us.

Obama wants more money for the government under the guise of "middle class tax cuts" and higher taxes for the rich. What that ultimately means is higher taxes for the middle and lower class. Businesses automatically figure in their tax burden in the product price ... any increase in their taxes will mean you pay more ... you pay the tax increase.

Cutting the corporate tax from 35% to 25% is smart. It not only gives companies more capital to reinvest in their company, they also create more jobs for expanding businesses.

The government doesn't have an inherent right to your money ... you do.

Obama thinks otherwise.

Posted by: darwin | Aug 8, 2008 3:04:02 PM

Given the degree to which McCain has abandoned his role as a Maverick in favor of the Bush policy line, and in keeping with his Gaffe Fest 2008, shouldn't his bus be called the "Stray Talk Express?"

Posted by: ricky | Aug 8, 2008 2:42:14 PM

McCain campaign theme song stolen from Motion Picture Theaters of America: "Let's all go to the Lobby, let's all go to the Lobby, Let's all go to the Lobby and get some of those treats."

Posted by: ricky | Aug 8, 2008 2:30:15 PM

If you look at the 80 percent of the American people who think the country's moving in the wrong direction, then how can you see Obama's statement as a stumble? Isn't it the mainstream view?

Posted by: nitpicker | Aug 8, 2008 1:50:50 PM

That's it against McCain? You can find an equal amount of stumbles in Obama's statements. In any event, those who support one man or the other will almost always fail to see their chosen candidate's mistakes. McCain made some mistakes--but every candidate does, right? I hereby forgive both of them without charging either senility or stupidity as the cause of their speaking errors. Now, can we get on with it?

P.S. Obama's response to the girl was not a mistake, it was lame. "We are horrible, honey! I will make it all better." Obama, like many leftists, is a poor historian and will always fail to recognize the United States' overall positive contribution to the world.

Posted by: Wade | Aug 8, 2008 1:34:54 PM

Thanks, Real News!

But the facts won't stop McCain from lying about Obama's plan and crowing about his own.

The GOP can lie to itself and its constituents about things like sexuality, family values, security, spending, and ethics ("straight" politicians who hookup with teenage boys and dudes in bathrooms, "honest" politicians who take bribes and illegal contributions from big business, "concerned" politicians who make up lies about weapons of mass distruction, "family values" politicians who cheat on their wives with prostitutes, "fiscal conservatives" who bankrupt the treasury).

And many Republican voters reward them for their bad behavior.

This means that McCain's lies will actually get him somewhere with some voters.

But, I think after 8 years of madness, most people can see through it. I pray this is the case. I mean, at some point, people need to put their foot down. It might as well be 2008.

Posted by: blip | Aug 8, 2008 12:45:17 PM

Beck, Sen. Obama intends to allow the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts to expire. That will be a huge tax hike for individuals making less that $250,000.

The Washington Post Fact Checker (June 2008) states the following: "According to Obama's new economics adviser, Jason Furman, the revenues raised from letting the tax cuts expire will be returned to middle and low-income tax payers in the form of tax credits to pay for health insurance, so the overall effect will be revenue neutral."

So the tax cuts will be allowed expire...raising taxes significantly. Then the government will provide tax credits which can only be used for paying for health care insurance. Some tax break! What about those individuals whose employers pay for their health care? Do they lose out unless they want to forego their free health care insurance and pay for their own health care insurance?

Now then, Sen. Obama's current plan is nothing but rhetoric. There are many Democrats in Congress who want to raise taxes on individuals who are making over $100,000. They will likely have the votes to pass this after their expected gains in both Houses this November. A President Obama will not veto such a tax increase because he will need even further tax increases in order to pay for his new entitlements to the poor and middle class.

Posted by: James Danley | Aug 8, 2008 12:39:04 PM

McCain claims in an ad released today that "Obama voted to raise taxes on people making just $42,000. He promises more taxes on small business, seniors, your life savings, your family."
But when it comes to promises, it's worth pointing out that, according to the non-partisan Tax Policy Center's analysis of both candidates' proposed plans, Obama would cut taxes for those making in the range of $38,000 to $66,000 three to almost eight times more than McCain would.
Under Obama's plan, according to the center, by 2009, those making $37,595 would see an average increase in their income of 3.6%, or a tax cut of $892; those making an average of $66,354 would see an increase in their income of 2.4%, or a tax cut of $1,042.
On the other hand, Under McCain's plan, those making $37,595 would see an increase in their income of only about 0.5%, or $113 tax cut; those making $66,354 would see only an increase of 0.7% in their income, or a tax break of $319.

Posted by: real news | Aug 8, 2008 12:37:20 PM

People have to be crazy (or childless) to see Obama's answer as anti-American.

Every day I look at my kids and I realize that I am going to have to work very, very hard to give my kids the same educational opportunities that I took for granted as a kid. I am going to have to work twice as hard as my parents to pay their medical bills. And, when they are finally on their own, they are going to have to pay back all the debt that Bush and his supporters. They won't be able to rely on social security. Hell, the world might not even be habitable for them.

A true patriot would say what Obama said, I want to make sure that my kids live to see an America safer and more prosperous and more free than the one they live in now. That's a great goal.

Posted by: blip | Aug 8, 2008 12:22:20 PM

Why can't you wing-nuts get off of Sen. McCain's war record? Give it up! He is established as a genuine war hero to millions of Americans and I don't think we will be going to you for facts! He laid down his life for his country, which is more than can be said for a lot of us. The fact is, if McCain had a record like B0's, he would have been toast by now.

McCain 2008 / Hillary 2012!

Posted by: Beckie | Aug 8, 2008 12:19:15 PM

McCain is so out of touch. My parents are practically just as old as John McCain. Middle class, small business owners, struggling in this economy. They are high school drop outs. And even they can check their own email. McCain doesn't even know how to check his own email, he has his personal assistant read it to him every day. McCain is one of the top-ten richest senators, and he draws deep donations through his lobbyist ties. He wears 500$ dollar shoes. His dad got him into college, but he graduated at the rock bottom of his class. All McCain does is run comic ads spoofing Obama for being inspirational.

Obama was raised by a single mother and worked really hard to achieve the success he has achieved. Every day Obama looks to solving the problems of ordinary Americans. And his entire campaign has been built by people like me sending small amounts of money to him. Obama spends his money on ads that talk about the issues.

It takes real audacity to spin Obama into the out of touch elitist.

Posted by: Blip | Aug 8, 2008 12:16:33 PM

Barack Obama’s comment to a 2nd grader (America is, uh, uh, uh, is no longer, uh, uh, uh, what it could be, uh, what it was once . .. ) reminds me of Michelle Obama telling an audience that their souls were broken. Her prescription for fixing their souls? Vote for her husband!!!! Do people really take these two seriously? I won’t vote for McCain (NEVER will I vote for a Republican), but I won’t vote for Obama, either. Guess this is one election I will have to sit out, and I haven’t done that in 30 years . . .

Posted by: Arvid | Aug 8, 2008 12:13:38 PM

If 80% of the country thinks we're headed in the wrong direction, then why isn't Obama further ahead in the polls?

Because thinking people realize that while Bush drove us into a ditch, a McCain presidency can upright the bus and get it back on the road, while an Obama presidency will cause an explosion to engulf the bus in flames!

Posted by: marylou | Aug 8, 2008 10:56:27 AM

Mary Lou - how exactly will McCain upright the bus and get us back on the right road when his platform continues the Bush policies? He voted with Bush over 95% of the time. You can't keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result. You're fooling yourself - or you just earned yourself 10 posting points for the McCain camp. Working your way to an autographed photo, right?

Posted by: Thanks for the laugh | Aug 8, 2008 12:08:09 PM

I watched McCain's video you linked and if this is the best they got on him..then for a 71 year old, he is in a really good shape.

We have 47 year old Obama that has done more gaffes and has given more confused answers that you wonder who is the older candidate here??

Posted by: Frieda | Aug 8, 2008 12:03:22 PM

No stumble here:
A second grader threw Obama a curve ball. The question was a simple one. Why are you running for President Mr. Obama? Obama response was: “America is, uh, is no longer, uh, what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, 'I don’t want that future for my children.'”

The simple message to the child was that America is no more, it is broken, it is an awful place to live and bring up children---Obama rejected America.

Posted by: Mike | Aug 8, 2008 11:52:50 AM

McCains new ad against Obama was released today:
But the ad makes some dubious claims:
1) When it says that Obama voted "to raise taxes on people making just $42,000," that was on a non-binding budget resolution vote that didn't actually raise or lower taxes. From Factcheck.org: "The resolution does not contain a specific provision to raise tax rates, but rather assumes that most of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire as scheduled in 2011."

2) According to Obama's economic plan, he would raise taxes only on those making more than $250,000 per year, and would provide tax cuts to those making less than that. Factcheck.org: "Obama has stated repeatedly that his plan would increase taxes only for those making more than $250,000 per year."

*** UPDATE *** NBC's Domenico Montanaro adds that, according to the non-partisan Tax Policy Center's analysis of both candidates' plans, by 2009, under Obama's plan, those making $37,595 would see an average increase in their income of 3.6%, or a tax cut of $892; those making an average of $66,354, would see an increase in their income of 2.4%, or a tax cut of $1,042.

On the other hand, Under McCain's plan, those making $37,595, would see an increase in their income of only about 0.5%, or $113 tax cut; those making $66,354, would see only an increase of 0.7% in their income, or a tax break of $319.

Posted by: beck | Aug 8, 2008 11:28:21 AM

Josh Marshall, the guy who accuses people of racism at the drop of a hat, is now attacking McCain because of his age. Isn't that nice of Marshall? Marshall is one of the "good guys" isn't he? He's not bigoted! He doesn't engage in lowly scumbag attacks!

Posted by: OxyCon | Aug 8, 2008 11:15:35 AM

Obama is taking a well deserved vacation, Why isn't Sen McCain using this time to talk about the issues facing America? He has the American voter to himself, the media, the pundits and independent voters. Could it be that political silence that has befallen this news cycle is only substantiating the fact that Sen McCain
has no real solutions to the challenges of America. I would really hope that the media finally give McCain the attention and scrutiny he craves. I want to hear what Sen McCain has to offer, it's now or never.

Posted by: Elitist | Aug 8, 2008 11:13:00 AM

80% of America thinks its heading in the wrong direction, so why is it so bad, or even worth commenting on, that Obama agrees with them?

I think McCain is very very lucky so much of the media is focussedo n Obama right now, because he is running an awful campaign. Even his appearance at the bike rally the other day was just truly embarrasing. One trying to talk about energy conservation whilst bikers rev there engines is just dumb, two suggesting you are entering your wife into a bikers beauty pageant is just ignorant of what goes on.

Posted by: markymark | Aug 8, 2008 11:09:31 AM

What do you expect of a person who sat for 20 years and listened to the hate-America sermons? He is just reflecting that philosophy and Michelle's that America is a mean-spirited country, etc, etc. Maybe he should hold his campaigns after 9 p.m. when all the kids are in bed! Course, he really believes that he is the ONE to bring peace, prosperity and love to the country!

Posted by: Beckie | Aug 8, 2008 11:09:27 AM

HILLARY: I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience that he will bring to the White House and Senator Obama has a speech that he gave in 2002.

Posted by: linda n carolina | Aug 8, 2008 11:01:48 AM

If 80% of the country thinks we're headed in the wrong direction, then why isn't Obama further ahead in the polls?

Because thinking people realize that while Bush drove us into a ditch, a McCain presidency can upright the bus and get it back on the road, while an Obama presidency will cause an explosion to engulf the bus in flames!

Posted by: marylou | Aug 8, 2008 10:56:27 AM

What is controversial about what Obama said? God I hate the corporate media. So in the tank for Mcsame. America isn't what it once was, anyone with half a brain knows that and knows why (Bush-Cheney)

Posted by: Dean | Aug 8, 2008 10:54:05 AM

Obama taking a vacation while Americans are suffering. Republicans are willing to work to get through the energy crisis but all the Democrats decided a vacation is better for them.

Posted by: beck | Aug 8, 2008 10:51:58 AM

Simple question for Obama supporters:

You blame McCain's stumbles on old age.

On what do you blame Obama's stumbles?

Posted by: marylou | Aug 8, 2008 10:51:29 AM

Why don't Democrats redirect their extreme hatred toward America toward the cowards who are our enemies

Posted by: jess | Aug 8, 2008 10:44:53 AM

Michelle Obama, aspiring First Lady: I’ve never been really proud of my country.
Barack Obama, presidential nominee: America is not what it once was, what it could be.

John McCain, presidential nominee: I’d rather lose an election than lose the war.

Ludicrus, Obamabot: If you said it, you meant it.

Barack Obama: Words do matter.

Posted by: Tiffany | Aug 8, 2008 10:40:39 AM

It is not just Congress like McCain and Bush want us to think. How many bills this past 4 years have Bush vetoed and refused to sign.

This is were Obama is right on how it should not be about Repubs or Dems, Independents, Socialist, it should just be about what is best for the United States and its people.

Go Obama! enjoy your vacation!

Posted by: beck | Aug 8, 2008 10:40:02 AM

With 80% of the country saying that America is going in the WRONG direction, what's so controversial with what Obama said.

80% of the country AGREE with Obama.

Posted by: Cathy | Aug 8, 2008 10:35:49 AM

Is there a communist link?

Cliff Kincaid, of Accuracy in Media, in his article entitled "AP Lies About Obama's Red Mentor," posted Aug 4, 2008, blasts a recent AP story on Frank Marshall Davis being a mentor and "an imporant influence" on Sen. Obama from 1975 to 1979 because the story omitted the fact that Frank Marshall Davis was a member of the Communist Party USA.

Mr. Kincaid writes:

"Davis was not a 'journalist' in any real sense of the term. He was a propagandist and racial agitator for the CPUSA. He was also a recruiter for the communist cause."

Mr. Kincaid also writes:

"Davis was a hard-core but secret CPUSA member with a history of involvement in CPUSA fronts who was so much of a Stalinist that he opposed U.S. participation in World War II during the Hitler-Stalin Pact, but then supported U.S. involvement after Nazi Germany invaded Soviet Russia."

And Mr. Kincaid writes:

"Not surprisingly, AP leaves many major questions unanswered. The wire service notes that Frank Marshall Davis is referred to in Obama’s book Dreams From My Father 'only as Frank.'

"But why? What does Obama have to say about this curious omission? Could it have something to do with the fact that, by the time Obama wrote his book, he knew that Davis was a Communist? And that he deliberately covered this up? Or did he know it earlier?"

Finally, Mr. Kincaid asks:

"Did Davis recruit Obama?"

"Was Obama...ever a secret CPUSA member?"

Now this is a story that the mainstream media should be looking into...but it probably won't.

Posted by: James Danley | Aug 8, 2008 10:35:01 AM

Jake,

Could PLEASE post the ENTIRE clip of what Obama said to the 7 year old girl. The 7 year old girl was asked why is Obama running for president. Obama's ENTIRE answer was FANTASTIC.

You are only showing a tiny clip of what Obama.

Posted by: Wendy | Aug 8, 2008 10:32:57 AM

Obama running on scare tactics. Like Obama tried to scare everybody saying the surge would do more damage than good.

Obama is like the little boy that stands in the corner that says "SEE I TOLD YOU SO"

Posted by: jess | Aug 8, 2008 10:26:28 AM

John McCain has said many times over the years that he would rather lose an election than win a war. He backed up his words by challenging George Bush on his execution of the war in Iraq, and alienating his own Party. McCain has alienated his own party on several issues over the years. That is the difference between Obama and McCain. I can pretty much predict what McCain is going to do. I have no idea what Obama stands for. He says one thing, changes his mind, and then changes it back again, depending on the way the wind blows. I have no idea who this man really is. He reminds me of an onion. Peel away the layers, and there’s nothing at the core. I don’t always agree with John McCain, but I’m pretty sure I know where he stands on most issues. At least that gives me some level of comfort. From day to day, I don’t know where Obama stands on anything. In one day, he said THREE different things about Iraq – he’d get the troops out in 16 months, then he’d keep troops in Iraq depending on conditions on the ground, and then he went back to his commitment to get the troops out in 16 months. It’s clear to me that this man is willing to say anything to get elected. The question is, what does he really believe and what will he really do? FOB

Posted by: FOB, Mehlville, MO | Aug 8, 2008 10:26:25 AM

I don't get the point about the Obama reply to the girl. Okay, I understand that this might not be the right way to respond to a 7 years old, but many Americans in surveys after surveys show their pessimism about the prospect of America. Almost everyone seems to think that they were better off 8 years ago.


Posted by: Lance D. | Aug 8, 2008 10:26:10 AM

McSame the Panamian Commander in Chief is confused naturally and always, age, oldness and low IQ combined. America deserves better, a better president a better leader than McBush. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.

Posted by: BKMC | Aug 8, 2008 10:24:17 AM

Obama wasn't only answering the seven year old, he was also answering his supporters at the town hall.

Posted by: Vanessa | Aug 8, 2008 10:19:08 AM

I will still vote for McCain because he was willing to give his life for our country.

What has Obama done other than a community organizer and attend a racist church for over 10 years and throw his white grand mother under the bus saying she was racist after she raised him up

Posted by: Darth_Romeny | Aug 8, 2008 10:17:10 AM

susie:
Obama was not in a 2nd grade classroom. Who is the parent pumping up young children with questions at a serious town hall meeting?

Posted by: nonissue | Aug 8, 2008 10:16:01 AM

Tapper and ABC -

Stop helping 0bama sensoring my post. Release my IP from your sensoring black list.

You complain china sensorship, 0bama's government spying bill does not protect you and ABC sensoring and black listing IP addresses.

Posted by: fact check | Aug 8, 2008 10:14:40 AM

WestCoastMessenger;
sorry buddy, making mistakes is human but the McCain stumbles could go on for hours, and will only get progressively worse if we wake up and take a serious look.

Posted by: watching | Aug 8, 2008 10:13:23 AM

I don't think what Obama said was an appropriate answer for seven year old. It reminds me of Jimmy Carter discussing nuclear profliferation with young daughter Amy.

Posted by: susie | Aug 8, 2008 10:09:00 AM

what do you prefer? Bashing your country to gain angry votes, rather than giving an optism to your fellow countrymen, or defending your Constitution right of privacy and voting against government spying on you, and helping your economy by voting against the Cheney bill that gives big oil billions of taxes breaks resulting in their huge profit.

its zero-bama vs. HRC.

Confused?

who deceived you now?

Posted by: fact check | Aug 8, 2008 10:08:49 AM

So what was the "57 states" comment by Obama, a junior moment?

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Aug 8, 2008 10:05:47 AM

23% approval for Bush, 19% approval for Congress. Looking bad to me.

Posted by: Thinking | Aug 8, 2008 9:49:43 AM

If you carry this thought further, it seems that while Obama is on vacation, McCain will get all the lime light.
Obama's points are bound to go up after that!

Posted by: DAVID NH | Aug 8, 2008 9:45:53 AM

i'm sure that the 20% of the country who thinks we are on the right track will be horrified. The rest of us after 8 years of Bush agree with Obama.

Posted by: t | Aug 8, 2008 9:34:48 AM

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