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The Obama Overreach: Refuting A Few of Corsi’s Smears By Re-Writing History

August 15, 2008 5:42 PM

Don’t get me wrong – I half expected to see anti-Obama author Jerome Corsi at today’s Bigfoot press conference.

But not everything in the Obama campaign’s 40-page refutation of Corsi’s shoddy and dishonest book “Obama Nation” is fair.

Much of what Corsi writes in his book is demonstrably false, irresponsible, and feverishly conjured. The book is indefensible, as are Corsi’s many bigoted remarks about Arabs, the Pope and others.

But the Obama campaign got a little greedy in their refutations.

First of all, on the front of the response, is a labeled stamped “Brought to you by Bush/Cheney Attack Machine.”

Corsi has actually called for the impeachment of President Bush. Corsi’s a 9/11 Truther who thinks the Bush administration is covering up what “really” happened at the World Trade Center.

That said, the Simon & Schuster imprint that published this book is run by former Cheney aide Mary Matalin. So those looking for evidence this is part of a larger "Bush/Cheney Attack Machine" hit can point to her presence in this literary atrocity. But I don't think it's fair to blame this nasty screed on the President, considering the anti-Bush venom from Corsi.*

One item the Obama campaign labels a “LIE” is the claim that when Obama ran for state senator, “(i)nstead of stepping aside in deference to (then-state senator Alice) Palmer, Obama decided to fight her for the nomination.”

This is not a lie, this is true. Palmer had decided to run for Congress, and Obama was tapped to run to replace her. When Palmer lost in the primary, she wanted to stay as a state senator. Obama said no. He had every right to do so, but he decided to fight her for the nomination instead of stepping aside in deference to her.

Nonetheless, the Obama campaign calls it a lie and quotes a state representative who said Palmer “pulled her own plug”

Read more about what really happened HERE in the Chicago Tribune.

Speculating about how Obama ended up using the words of Gov. Deval Patrick in some of his speeches, Corsi speculates that Obama strategist David “Axelrod most likely liked how the speech worked with his client in Massachusetts and so decided to try it once again with Obama, perhaps thinking no one would notice.”

Corsi has no way of knowing that, but the Obama campaign’s response -- “REALITY: PLAGIARISM ATTACK WAS A “BASELESS AND DESPERATE PLOY” – is over the top.

As backup, the Obama campaign points out that writing in The Nation, Ari Melber wrote that “The Clinton Campaign’s attack on Obama’s use of the line ‘just words’ was widely panned as a baseless and desperate ploy. Her coverup might go over even worse.”

But that’s one man’s opinion.

Certainly it’s not “baseless” to question why Obama was using Patrick’s words as his own without crediting him, as we wondered about HERE.

Whatever you think of the incident, it doesn’t belong alongside the more unhinged Corsi smears, however much the Obama campaign would like it to be considered a non-event.

In another refutation, Corsi’s assertion that Obama adviser Air Force General Merrill ‘Tony’ McPeak (Ret.) has “anti-Israel views” is characterized by the Obama campaign as “SMEARING MCPEAK AS AN ANTI-SEMITE.”

Obviously holding anti-Israel views and being an anti-Semite are not the same thing (though they often go hand in hand.) But more to the point, plenty of Israel supporters have thought McPeak’s views on Israel  -- in which he seemed to blame the stalled Mideast peace process on “pro-Israel” voters in New York and Miami – as highly inflammatory.

Again, I’m not defending Corsi. Much of what he writes is troubling and fictional. But that doesn’t mean that the Obama campaign shouldn’t hew closer to the truth.

And yes, I do have higher expectations of them.

- jpt

* This part was added on Saturday.

August 15, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (231)

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I saw the preface ("Why I Wrote This Book") to Corsi's book on the web. Editing out the words in the middle this is how it reads.

...abortion...extreme left...extreme left...Obama and Hillary Clinton...Clinton’s and Obama’s...African-American...racial discrimination...racial relations...ending welfare...teenage pregnancies...racial politics...Detroit race riots...A Time To Burn?...race riots...a riot flared in Glenville...burning and looting...race riots...Black Militants...racial violence...student protests...antiwar movement...civil rights and protest literature...Black Muslims...African-American radicals...burning and looting...race riots...Vietnam Veterans Against the War...race riots...student demonstrations...antiwar protests...convicted felons...bank robbers...rapists...terrorists...terrorism and Islamic extremism...Atomic Iran...Nuclear Iran...radical terrorists...war with Iran...Obama’s extensive connections with Islam and with radical racial politics...extremists...Malcolm X and Louis Farrakhan...radical socialist...Obama’s home tribe...radical community organizing...socialist redistribution of wealth...Radical Islamic terrorist...African-American poverty...teenage pregnancies and abortions...welfare-state programs...far-leftist...extremist politics...his middle name, which happens to be Hussein...

Separately, which party will do a better job of cleaning up the mess after GWB leaves office? Rs or Ds?
Sounds like a campaign theme to me.

Posted by: tktvr | Aug 22, 2008 8:02:02 AM

This is so dumb. "Sure, the book is 99% lies, but to be fair, these four thigs are true." Are you kidding me?

Posted by: Evan | Aug 18, 2008 1:14:35 PM

"Certainly it’s not “baseless” to question why Obama was using Patrick’s words as his own without crediting him, as we wondered about HERE. "

So Corsi's attack is valid because this isn't the *first* time you've launched and absurd and dishonest attack on
Obama? Regardless of what you
"wondered", the charge of plagiarism was *baseless*, and such wondering was clueless or flat-out dishonest.

And so it goes. After all, the Republicans determined that their best chance to win is to make this a referendum on Obama, and the corporate media happily obliges, whether it's these bogus criticisms of his response to a vicious attack from the Republican noise machine or painting him as "exotic" for vacationing with his sister and grandmother.

Posted by: truth machine | Aug 17, 2008 7:22:39 PM

I am a fan of Tapper, and I have been finding his column a must read..

Thank You.

Posted by: ford | Aug 17, 2008 10:32:41 AM

"Much of Corsi's truths"

One of those words does not belong in that sentence, Rand Bowerman.

Either jettison 'truth' or 'Corsi', because there is no plane of existence on which those two words can appear together.

Posted by: John S. | Aug 17, 2008 9:22:42 AM

The Obama campaign "label" on the front of the response does not suggest that the book is courtesy of President Bush or Vice President Cheney. It claims it is courtesy of the Bush/Cheney attack machine. Matalin was clearly part of the group that did the administration's bidding, much like any campaign surrogate would do.

Why do you not draw this distinction?

Posted by: Matt Lehrman | Aug 17, 2008 9:20:36 AM

Rand Bowerman thinks Corsi's smear job on Obama is about 75% true because of another work of fiction Corsi published on Kerry? I wonder what sort of fellow veteran of Kerry Bowerman is to accept the words of a draft dodger like Corsi over the words of a decorated veteran like Kerry. While Bowerman claims to have been "Army Intelligence" that night Kerry was out - assuming Bowerman knew then actually that Kerry was out that night, Kerry's own team - every one of them has vouched for Kerry over and over again. This shows how low political affiliations can drag one down as in the case of Bowerman. Simply because Bowerman has bought, unseeingly, into the republican litany of lies, he has no compunctions about smearing a veteran like Kerry and his entire team. This is chicanery at its worst. It is the likes of Bowerman who have kept quiet as a fraud like Ann Coulter has trashed the reputation of Max Cleland - a peerless man of honour. And in 2006 when Tammy Duckworth - an decorated veteran and amputee from Iraq - was in the running for the Congress against Pete Roskam, her opponent lacking a sense of irony accused her of wanting to cut and run. To heap insult on injury the VFW endorsed a country club conservative (and a one time flack of Tom DeLay) over a fellow veteran. Kerry had the courage to to bring to light atrocities that were perpetrated by rougue soldiers. Bowerman may be in denial or sold over to the republican smear machine. but this is no excuse for tolerating falsehood. Above everything else the fact that an alleged veteran like Bowerman chooses to follow the dictates of a frat-boy like Bush who used his dad's connections to put in paper servie in the ANG over a man of honour who answered the call of duty regardless of his personal opinion, shows that for Bowerman and the many who joined that chorus of lies in 2004, their uniform is just another suit in the closet.

Kerry came within a few 1000 votes of winning in 2004 and is today cruising to victory in his re-election bid in Massachusets. Bowerman's fellow deceiver in arms and fancy suit wearer John O'Neill boasted in 2004 that he was going to take up residence in Masachusets and defeat Kerry for the Senate in 2008. Looks like there are words and then empty words! Republicans will balance the budget and speak the truth before they can ever defeat a Senator of sterling credentials like Kerry - ever. After all what would Bowerman's Red State rabble be worth without the scientific and cultural resources of the East Coast and West Coast that power the US economy?

How amusing that Obama should be smeared as a "far-left" candidate! This is exactly what racists liked to say those days about Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. Even today racist bigots accuse Dr.King of communist sympathies! For the likes of Bowerman calling Obama names is a thin veneer for their own prejudices.

Posted by: pearson | Aug 17, 2008 8:07:51 AM

Because of 352 superdelegates and Al Gore Obama came threw the primaries and was decleared the presumptive nominee of the Dems party. He is no longer someone you may critizise, stories like this does not stick. Obama is untouchable, no matter how true. How sad for the Dems their party leadership sucks, having been unable to pick a winner for more than 20 years. I blame Kennedy, but the hatchetmen was Pelosi, Reed, Kerry, Clayburn and unfortunately a man I like and who himself felt their lack of political savy in the 2004 primaries, Howard Dean.

Dems only presidential winner came from Arkansa and he won despite these fat, rich and old white men. Bill Clinton got away with it because he won a year Dems were not suppose to win, and they hated Clinton for it. Now they will ram Obama down our throat at the convention, leaving the grasroot alone to correct their mistake with a hopeless shortage of 800 superdelegate votes.

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | Aug 17, 2008 7:07:55 AM

Don't knee-jerk kill the messenger. Corsi's book would be much stronger if he focussed on the (my opinion) 70% that is true and 86'd the garbage. Much of Corsi's truths would not have been a shock upon publication if the MSM had been doing its due diligence on Obama and his backround.

Corsi's book on Kerry in 2004 was mostly a compilation of data from those officers and sailors who served with "JFK" in Vietnam. Some of it was sour grapes, to be sure, but a lot of it was true. Examples: Kerry was allowed to leave Vietnam before the completion of his combat tour by virtue of earning three (3) Purple Hearts (PH).
His first PH was during training up country and has been refuted by his Commanding Officer and the Medical Doctor present. If this PH is bogus, then he should not have left Vietnam early. Second, his declaration that he and his boat were in Cambodia on Christmas Eve 1968 (to discredit U.S. involvement in Cambodia) was a lie. I personnally know this because I was on duty in the Mekong Delta that night for Army intelligence. We had real-time locations of all U.S./allied personnel and boats in case we had to call in artillery or air strikes based on our intelligence. Kerry and his boat were never closer than 10km from Cambodia that night.
Finally, Kerry forfeited all credibility with fellow Vietnam vets when he tried to pass off bogus atrocity claims in testimony to the Senate. The testimony from "vets" of the Winter Soldier cause have been mostly debunked. Kerry, painting us all with a dirty, broad brush, caused great harm to his fellow vets. But id did establish his bona fides to the far-left for his losing race for Congress in 1972.

Posted by: Rand Bowerman | Aug 17, 2008 3:31:32 AM

Jake, how about pointng out some of the lies in Corsi's book? I've been to Amazon and read all the negative one star reviews, but strangely, few, if any, of those posting negative reviews cite any lies they found. (Do you suppose they didn't read the book?)

Posted by: Grammy Barb | Aug 17, 2008 1:20:19 AM

I can't believe some of the comments I'm reading on this blog. It shows the reason why the U.S. is in the current mess we are in since so many people are showing no sign of intelligence. If you bothered to find out the truth, you would see that Coris is a lair who has stated that John McCain is being funded by groups tied to Al Qaeda. No wonder the U.S. is crumbling around us since way too many people aren't using their God given brains to actually think. One can only wonder where this country will be in 4 years if John McCain actually wins.

Posted by: Draconis | Aug 17, 2008 1:17:01 AM


JDP:
"Why hasn't the mainstream dug into Obama's background?"

Most people in America would like to know the answer to that.

Posted by: Billw | Aug 16, 2008 11:54:34 PM


Sleepless in Seattle:
"Just on issues and brass tacks positions alone - Obama should be rejected. When you combine that with his dubious associations - he should be passed on out of hand."

Judging from the interview's tonight on TV with McCain and Obama, he will be. McCain showed better judgement and intelligence 10 to 1.


Posted by: Billw | Aug 16, 2008 11:50:26 PM

I have not yet read Mr. Corsi's book so I have no opinion about the book, itself.

But to be fair, I don't need his book to know that I can never support Obama. Despite the MSM's fawning over Obama or maybe because the MSM has been so negligent in vetting Obama, I no longer watch or pay attention to that which "passes for political coverage" on television. I read articles on-line and of course have to be careful there too but I have at my fingertips many sources rather than a "few".

I do want to read Mr. Corsi's book, not because I need more information to not support Obama, but because I want to be able to have an "informed opinion" about the book itself.

Thanks Jake for your article and your opinion.

Posted by: Cathy in Ks. | Aug 16, 2008 11:35:06 PM

Regarding Justice Clarence Thomas, Barak Obama stated, "I don't think he was a strong enough jurist or a legal thinker at the time for that. I profoundly disagree with his interpretation [of the Constitution]." Is this statement not the height of irony?

Posted by: MarleneOhio | Aug 16, 2008 9:48:36 PM

The one thing that stands out above all the rest is , I have noticed that anytime we have an article like this maybe not showing Obama in a great white light the left starts the name calling and stuff that belongs in a road house somewhere in Texas .

Posted by: Ken Roberts | Aug 16, 2008 9:41:52 PM

Sorry, the quote I pulled below was from Elon, not Bob44.

Posted by: Sleepless in Seattle | Aug 16, 2008 8:48:17 PM

"Jerome Corsi writes a scandalous and untrue book about Senator Obama. Obama defends himself by issuing a statement which demonstrates that Corsi's book is false. Jake Tapper then attacks Obama for defending himself. Ridiculous."
Bob44
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What's ridiculous is that you appear to accept the premise that everything in Corsi's book is 'untrue' and that everything Obama says is 'demonstrated' - which Tapper plainly shows is not the case.

The truth surely is found somewhere between those extremes. But good luck with your blind faith in The One.

Posted by: Sleepless in Seattle | Aug 16, 2008 8:45:45 PM

Senator Obama has burst on the scene and now his bubble is bursting. What matters is not if Corsi is 100% truth and light, but Mr. Obama's own record, or lack thereof. Mr. Obama is asking for our vote, not Corsi. As others have said, even if 75 or 85% only is true in Corsi's book, it tells us way more than the MSM outlets have been carping - that Obama is The One.

Just on issues and brass tacks positions alone - Obama should be rejected. When you combine that with his dubious associations - he should be passed on out of hand.

All the best to a more moderate African American candidate to win the US Presidency in the future.

McCain '08!

Posted by: Sleepless in Seattle | Aug 16, 2008 8:36:52 PM

Corsi writes a book filled with lies. Publishers smell both money and a way to undermine the democratic candidate that sides with the people. Book is published. Journalists refuse to refute the book seeing both ratings and scared of republican attack machine. In fact journalist, smelling money rush to promote Corsi. Obama's left having to defend himself against lies. He's then attacked for defending himself. Loser is the american people as our democratic discourse gets trampled.

Journalists need to stop publishing lies and need to stop give airtime to people peddling lies.

Posted by: Kevin | Aug 16, 2008 8:03:13 PM

Why would anyone claim that this book isn't a part of the right-wing attack scheme? It doesn't mean that they agree with the author on everything, only that they provide the author with a medium to express his views and then promote them. ("Look, even this person is saying that... and he doesn't even agree with us.")

Lot of the other points in this opinion piece are matters of interpretation, and maybe the correct response from the Obama campaign would not have been to declare certain points outright lies. But people like when things are simplified for them. If you start to explain complexities for them, they just tune out and think you are hiding something.

Summa summarum: I think this blog/article is an overreach and provides unnecessary echoes to the right-wing echo chamber.

Posted by: M I | Aug 16, 2008 7:24:52 PM

I think the Obama Campaign has forgotten the how the internet Really works. So to refute Corsi, who is often easily refuted, the add to his impact by refuting "Lies" that are not. This just brings into focus those easily proven lies of Obama, and makes the other, actual lies by Corsi seem legit. Poor Form Obama Folks. They would have been far better off sticking to Corsi's trash, and not done such stupid moves as calling Lies that which is easily proven.

Posted by: JP | Aug 16, 2008 7:16:13 PM

Phrases such as "Bush/Cheney Attack Machine" and "Rightwing Attack Machine" are themselves attacks, of course. Their use on the Americans' left seems to have become a habit that displaces thought; it's become repetitive, automatic, mechanical. "Bush/Cheney Attack Machine" and "Rightwing Attack Machine" are themselves mechanical attacks.

Posted by: Kralizec | Aug 16, 2008 7:03:14 PM

I bought Corsi's book and just finisned reading it. While it is clear Corsi has a personal political agenda - to prevent Obama from getting elected - Corsi openly admits to that in the first few pages.

But, while there are some inaccuracies and exagerations and clearly biased statements, Corsi's book presents much information about Obama that the MSM has been hiding from voters (i.e. Obama's connection with Alinsky's community organizing methodology in Chicago).

I think the book is worthwhile to read. Discerning readers will be able to decide what information they believe or accept or reject. Although not everything in the book is accurate, a lot of it is.

PS - Thanks Jake for being a courageous journalist. Your informative reporting gives us some hope that political journalism in America is not totally dead.

Posted by: All4America | Aug 16, 2008 6:56:00 PM

I bought the book and read about 1/3 so far. If the first 20 pages of this book contain ANY truth, Obama is TOAST.

Unbelievable that ABC is behind this outright wholesale promotion of this dangerous candidate.

Posted by: Bob44 | Aug 16, 2008 6:54:20 PM

Jerome Corsi writes a scandalous and untrue book about Senator Obama. Obama defends himself by issuing a statement which demonstrates that Corsi's book is false. Jake Tapper then attacks Obama for defending himself. Ridiculous.

Posted by: Elon | Aug 16, 2008 6:49:57 PM

That's great research Jake Tapper!

Tactically, I question the Obama campaign's response because how many people who would be drawn to the Corsi book would follow through and actually read Barack's 40 page rebuttal? Like were they trying to go for the number '40 page+' rather than truth?

And if the lies are so egregious, why not sue the author and the publisher to compel them to issue a recall/retraction on 2 or three of the most damaging demonstrable false facts?

Posted by: SamTheCat | Aug 16, 2008 6:49:15 PM

Really? giving legitimacy to this book? Helping it out by giving the liars that support the claims that Obama has no birth certificate time?

you can play the game of trying to be a neutral party, but all you do is legitimatize lies. You sir are a disgrace and should be ashamed for this story.

Posted by: M Laka Fett | Aug 16, 2008 6:38:52 PM

I bought the book, and I am stunned at what I did not know. Why hasn't the mainstream dug into Obama's background? Aren't his associations, as well as his political and social beliefs, critical to understanding who he is and deciding, on an individual level, whether we want him for our president? Don't the people have a right to know him, and don't the media have the responsibility to inform us rather than obfuscate. No wonder the is media dying; it's lost its soul and is rotting from its core, and it's so obvious.

Posted by: JDP | Aug 16, 2008 6:19:01 PM

Jake Tapper is earning his spurs with his election coverage. It's just sad to see how carefully Mr. Tapper must chose his words and justify the truth to avoid enraging the noise machine. Keep up the struggle Jake. We must always accept the truth from whichever corner it comes. And be its champions.

Posted by: Karen | Aug 16, 2008 6:09:34 PM

"ANY book with any veracity will have footnotes that can be checked for the source of the tidbits within the book. The first dozen footnotes in Corsi's book are attributed to HIM !!!"

Tommy is a liar like many other liberals. Looking at the footnotes of the preface of THE OBAMA NATION the majority of the quotes are attributed to Corsi. But the topic of the preface is "Who I Am and Why I Wrote This Book". Even with this it is not true that the first 12 quotes are attributed to Corsi even though you would expect many of the quotes to be about Corsi given the topic of the preface. Now moving on to the actual book let us take the first chapter. There are 29 references and only three are related to Corsi - telephone interviews. Reference #4 is a telephone interview with Sharon Churcher; reference #5 is a telephone interview with Rob Crilly; and reference #19 is a telephone interview with Sayid Obama in Kisumu Kenya. To make the claim that the references are somehow faulty, is a complete lie. The telephone interviews show that Corsi was careful to gather the facts. Few of the references in the book are actually attributed to Corsi. One of the characteristics of Corsi's writing is that his work is well researched! This is why his work is so powerful. He is able to bring out the details and bring out the real person - in this case Barack Obama.

Posted by: Eric | Aug 16, 2008 6:02:47 PM

Obama didn't just take Deval's words, he took his gestures. McLaughlin ran both tapes -- it's comical.

Posted by: AJBaker | Aug 16, 2008 5:34:16 PM

I wish you people in the media would look into Obama's background the same way you are looking into Corsi's.

Posted by: Andy B | Aug 16, 2008 5:21:18 PM

Author is correct...Obama should take a few of the real lies and dispute them. We would be interested in that. Taking things that are true but embarrassing or not complimentary and saying they're lies is .....a lie.
Obama is not going to win by sparring with the likes of Corsi. He should know that by now. Those who buy and read Corsi's books are never going to vote for Senator Obama and those who are supporting or are thinking of voting for Senator Obama already know about the information contained in Corsi's book and they've decided if they believe the accusations or not. Kind of childish, if you ask me.

Posted by: lezah2 | Aug 16, 2008 4:49:53 PM

I am reading "Obama Nation" and finished the first two chapters. It is full of accurate research, much extracted from Obama's own writing and speeches. It is also fairly understated in tone. For example, it is careful to confirm Obama's Christianity while observing that he had some Islamic instruction as a child. Hardly a controversy and apparently true.

I have been astonished by the absurd cries of "bigot", "lies", and "smears" from an assortment of Liberal Media hacks. The ad hominem attacks SCREAM invective and fail to refute anything specific of substance in the book.

They sound prejudiced and wrong.

Posted by: Phil | Aug 16, 2008 4:48:25 PM


"Obama's friendship with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright"

He spent 20 years with Wrignt, the Farrahkan supporter. They should all three move out of America.

Posted by: Billw | Aug 16, 2008 4:43:33 PM

"If Corsi's book is so false, then:
1) Why are you folks so upset?"
This should go without saying, but apparently, the thick ones have a hard time with the concept of fairness...People who possess ethics denounce books whose content is almost exclusively based on unsubstantiated claims with an obvious goal of smearing someone. This is Unfit For Command, part II. It's a new target, and a new set of lies, but the goal is the same.

"2) Why is it a NYT BEST SELLER?"
For the same reason Coulter's books achieve this status...The right-wing money machine buys a few hundred thousand to vault it up there, and give is away to propagate their smear campaign.

"3) How many copies has Nancy Pelosi's book sold so far?"
What relevance does this have to Corsi's book of lies?

Posted by: TVI | Aug 16, 2008 4:10:14 PM

ANY book with any veracity will have footnotes that can be checked for the source of the tidbits within the book. The first dozen footnotes in Corsi's book are attributed to HIM !!!
How can anyone expect to be taken seriously when you use terms like "a blogger said..." and "in my earlier reporting I found..." and then go on to try and make a point.
Obam may be over the top in refuting the ridiculous claims but one thing is for sure: The percentage of claims in this book that are outright lies is enough to strain any concept of credulity.

Posted by: Tommy | Aug 16, 2008 3:52:41 PM

"So, instead of attacks on the messenger why not do a point by point refutation of the allegations in his book?"

Which is precisely what Obama did.

Posted by: TVI | Aug 16, 2008 3:52:40 PM

How many of you have read this book, or the other two? As Obama continues to conceal his personal history (birth
certificate) and continues to present imaginary incidents as facts, people will challenge him on the information that he gives as truth.

Persons at KO's has given Obama supporters this man's address so that
they could hassle him...sites are being set up to defend him...but still the
problem lies with Barack/Barry... your
complaints should be directed to him
and not the ones who deliver the
message, as he is person who continues to lie about the facts and fabricates his personal history.

Not everyone is wrong, and he is Wright...

Posted by: donnal | Aug 16, 2008 3:52:29 PM

If Corsi's book is so false, then:
1) Why are you folks so upset?
2) Why is it a NYT BEST SELLER?
3) How many copies has Nancy Pelosi's book sold so far?

Now, do you idiots REALLY think American's want to hear people TRASH their country? It looks to me like America would rather hear from patriots.
Not that I agree with much of Corsi's rhetoric, but the hateful garbage I see in these posts suggests to me that this is an "anti-American Values" site. Remove All prisms from your face and try again.

Posted by: David J | Aug 16, 2008 3:47:29 PM

I haven’t read the book and I don’t think I will buy it. But it puzzles me that so little of what Corsi actually alleges about Obama appears in any of these op-ed fulminations. Because so many Old Media people support Obama ad hominem attacks like these against Corsi get tedious rather quickly. So, instead of attacks on the messenger why not do a point by point refutation of the allegations in his book? Otherwise, I have to believe there is a great deal of truth to them.

Posted by: davelnaf | Aug 16, 2008 3:40:32 PM

McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981. Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates. In addition, McCain's wife Cindy McCain and her father Jim Hensley had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators.

McCain, his family, and their baby-sitter had made nine trips at Keating's expense, sometimes aboard Keating's jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating's opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay. McCain did not pay Keating (in the amount of $13,433) for some of the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble.

Posted by: TVI | Aug 16, 2008 3:32:51 PM

Why get into the details of Mr Corsi's book in order to evaluate BHO's fitness for the highest office in the land? His dealings with Tony Rezko are a matter of public record, (concerning a sweetheart deal of land division to enable a house purchase followed later by a resale to Mrs O at ~1/3 of the purchase price. Any politician who gets into something like that, early in his career when idealism is supposed to be at its peak, shows that he is well and truly a dirty politician. Let me repeat that: dirty. Anyone who examines the fact and disputes that is a knave. He disqualified himself for high public office with that one affair all by itself.If you are not (negatively)impressed by this, then you have no meaningful ethical standards.

Posted by: Marty | Aug 16, 2008 3:23:47 PM

A study by Center for Responsive Politics Responsive reports that members of the military are giving more donations to Senator Obama than Senator McCain, and when you just examine those troops who are deployed, Obama attracts more donations by a 6 to 1 factor.

Posted by: Dew5050 | Aug 16, 2008 3:13:42 PM

I agree with Mike Fields and all this is opinion.

Mine is -- McCain is too old. I will never elect someone 72 years old to be the President of the United States, and I don't care which party he belongs to.

Posted by: sue | Aug 16, 2008 2:34:26 PM

Let's vote for anyone but Obama!

Posted by: NoToObama | Aug 16, 2008 2:31:33 PM

Obama raised more than $51m in july, more money than mccain raised. He added 65000 new donors, how many did mccain add?

The Democratic party raised more than $27m in july, more than the Republicans raised.

Conclusion, it appears that more and more people are now realizing that a better future lies with obama at the white house.

A vote for mccain is a vote for a mortgaged future, more wars, continuous spending of $10b monthly in iraq, while iraqis have their surplus deposited in interest yeilding accounts, bush policies and 'economic wizadry'.

Posted by: Dew5050 | Aug 16, 2008 2:31:16 PM

Billw,
No what would you have to talk about if Obama was not anywhere on the national radar, like the councilwoman from my disrict.My point is do you have anything else to talk about besides how bad Obama is?Anything non Obama related?
Waiting.......

Posted by: TV | Aug 16, 2008 2:21:26 PM

Shame to you Jack! for criticizing a victim of falsehood in his attempt to set the records straight. You should have done more criticism on the book, which you agreed is filled with distortions and falsehoods.

Moreover, your criticisms of obama's reply lacks substance. All you did was to grapple for air in your futile attempt at criticism.

Finally, you should be non partisan as a journalist. Stop furthering the GOP's agenda. Obama was the victim here and not Corsi, who sole porpose was to make money off obama.

Posted by: themanwhosawtomorrow | Aug 16, 2008 2:01:47 PM

The refutation isn't just ineffectual, they had to "creatively edit" a Corsi quote in order to make their point.

Posted by: The details | Aug 16, 2008 1:57:37 PM

Isn't most of what Corsi wrote, like what a lot of other people write and say, really opinion?

Maybe ill-conceived opinion, difficult to accept opinion, but still opinion. Opinion, by it nature, can only be disagreed with, never fully refuted.

Yes, it is possible to believe that Barack Obama has some residue of left-wing and pro-Muslim sympathies in him. Whether he practiced Islam early in his life or belonged to a particular political organization is a question of fact. What someone believes about the sympathies he has or the influences he carries with him are a matter of opinion.

If you want to believe that John McCain is "too old" to be president, that is also opinion.

Get real. These and other issue can and always will be a subject for debate and consideration.

Posted by: Mike Field | Aug 16, 2008 1:49:16 PM

I will give Corsi credit for one major thing.The ability to capitalize off of hatred and envy.This author is very wise in this respect.As an Obama supporter I probably shouldn't say this, but Corsi, apparently is a very good businessman.Get paid by talking about someone else's perceived weaknesses and alleged hidden agenda.Rappers have done that for years and the public spent their money to buy it.To me these books are the print version of a "dis" record. I will not waste my money on the garbage.I'll be donating it to the Obama campaign.Change that I am willing to give a try because I know John McCain will have us at WAR with whatever country he is afraid of, and like a chained dog in the inner city he will bark( threaten) at any passerby that he doesn't know , understand or recognize.We need a president that can deal in diplomacy first!War should be one of your final and last options. not option number 1 like John McCain.Obama 08

Posted by: TV | Aug 16, 2008 1:47:41 PM

I'm so glad McCain doesn't have to always get defensive about rumors/accusations the way Obama's camp does....I guess that's why his has a Stop the Smear rumor control website....THE FIRST CANDIDATE IN HISTORY TO DO SO....gotta wonder?
McCAIN '08/HILLARY '12

Posted by: Deb1 | Aug 16, 2008 1:45:30 PM

One man is getting rich off the popularity of Senator Barack Obama.Look Americans love lies, fiction and gossip. This is why tabloid magazines are so successful.I am sure there are a plenty of people that want printed information to back up their dislike of Senator Obama.So what the books are selling well. The Davinci Code did really well at the box office despite the fact that many Christians view it as a falsehood and completly against their beleifs.
The issue is that there are people... probably alot of people who don't want to beleive that Barack is as good as a guy as he seems."He has to have some dirt" in their minds, and this author is aware of that and capitilizing off of that.
But let's really look at this.The truth is Obama is under a lot of scrutiny.This whole election campaign is about finding the dirt on him and how he isn't ready.McCain and Hillary boasted ( McCain still does) about how they are so ready to lead this nation.Give me a break!
Any book about Obama is a top seller.Even if it is a book of lies.The same book about McCain would stay on the shelf because it would be alot like John McCain... boring and not interesting.

Posted by: TV | Aug 16, 2008 1:20:06 PM


peter in kansas:"I am stunned by many of the people here who believe the myths and lies about Obama."

The unspoken "lie" was Obama not being vetted re his Wright baggage until after the first 11 primaries (which he won), otherwise Clinton would have won. It was nip and tuck in the voting after that.


Posted by: Billw | Aug 16, 2008 1:16:03 PM

Now that SOMEONE has come forth and put the Obama debate on the table and beings you think most of Corsi's book is "troubling and fictional", will you be specific about the "most" parts?

Thank you,
nancy

Posted by: nancy | Aug 16, 2008 1:15:42 PM

I think unless you've actually read both Corsi's book and Obama's autobiography, you're flapping your gums in the wind.

Posted by: Laura | Aug 16, 2008 1:08:58 PM

***********************
Hey, guys, two wrongs
(Corsi BS and the Obama refutations / distortions)
do not make a Wright (or do they?).

Posted by: BillyC | Aug 16, 2008 1:08:25 PM

Corsi's book, much to the chagrin of the Main Stream Media (most of which are adamant Barack Hussein Obama supporters drinking his cool aid) is nothing more than an editorial piece. Basically some facts mixed with his opinions. Journalists do that every f'n day of the year, but in all the major newspapers it's all anti-Bush / anti-conservative / anti-right wing. Now that they are getting some of their medicine they rant and rave and use nasty words to put it down. Journalists in the USA are mostly clueless about the average American as are most Left-Wing propagandists and cool aid drinkers. Face it folks, left wingers are nothing more than Socialists. Or if you will, Wolves in Sheeps clothing. They ARE UN-Patriotic, and I don't give a rats behind if that inflames them. They are not PRO-American therefore they ARE UN-Patriotic and I invite them ALL to move to CANADA.

Posted by: Mike | Aug 16, 2008 1:08:21 PM

these comments are eye-opening. jake tapper highlights several points logically and with factual support and the commenters just attack him without addressing whether what he wrote is accurate. this is why O, who should be far ahead in the polls given how much W and the Reps have botched things is even or almost even with McC

Posted by: jrterrier | Aug 16, 2008 1:05:33 PM

Corsi's book has been funded and bought in bulk by right wing groups and foundations. The books are then distributed free to anyone who will read them. Then he gets press coverage. If even a tiny percentage of people read it and don't check the facts to realize that the entire book, based on lies and illegitimate sources, is intended to discredit Obama, rather than be real journalism, then they have won the game.

I am stunned by many of the people here who believe the myths and lies about Obama. Then they point to sleazeball's like Corsi for corroboration.

McCain and Obama have fundamental differences. They are both passionate and patriotic public servants. Look at their platforms and their policies to decide who to vote for.

If McCain wants to demonstrate that he really believes in fair elections, he will condemn this book and any other sleazy political moves. Obama should do the same on anything similar from the Democratic side. But there is usually far less of this stuff from the left than the right.

Posted by: peter in kansas | Aug 16, 2008 12:53:51 PM

Flawed or not, Corsi's book will be in print long after Obama's books are remaindered, then collected in one handy "bargain" volume, and then simply forgotten.

Corsi's will continue to serve as a reference for analyzing what was wrong with this candidate and why he was unelectable. But Obama's various love letters to himself will be of worth only as nostalgia items on ebay.

Posted by: puma_purr | Aug 16, 2008 12:47:30 PM

Perhaps the DNC is finally convinced that their choice of BHO is flawed ...

Posted by: VPSteak | Aug 16, 2008 12:40:36 PM

Many Obama supporters complain that McCain has not condemned Corsi's book. Well... how come Obama has not comdemned the books written against McCain? Did Obama ever comdemn the false racism accusations against the Clintons?

Posted by: All4America | Aug 16, 2008 12:31:45 PM

Corsi is not running for president and anyone who wants the job better be prepared for tough and through vetting. We can not intrust the most powerful position in the world and the leader of our nation without through examination. Some people check out yardmen better than they are Obama. When Obamas camp starts all their whining and I'm a victom does not exactly strike me as presidential. Look at all the trash that has been thrown at Bush. Obama has not even faced one tenth of the crap that has been thrown at Bush and look at how he whines. He can't even stand up to Hillary and he wants to be the president. If Corsi makes him cry and whine because he wrote a book based largely on Obamas own writings, what will Putin do to him?

Posted by: lingoliad | Aug 16, 2008 12:27:41 PM

The reason Corsi's book Obama Nation is doing so well is because the American public wants to know who their potential President is...and since the msm have been high heels in love with Obama and has not been willing to do their job there is a huge vacumn for information. I'm glad that books like these are coming out because the American people deserve to know the truth.

By the way did anyone slam the NYT when they came out with that slime hit piece on McCain and a purported affair?

Posted by: Tim | Aug 16, 2008 12:07:36 PM

I dunno dude, it makes perfect sense to me. Just think about it.

JT

Posted by: Jim McDish | Aug 16, 2008 11:57:50 AM

Corsi is nothing but a slanderous and bigoted fool. Those who believe his crap are just as full of avarice and stupidity. A man who insulted my religion and called Pope John Paul II a pedophile has no credibility whatsoever. This imbisible thinks the government is behind 9/11 and that oil is a renewable energy source. Why believe him now? Because his target is a half-black man with a funny name and is relativley new to the national scene?
Stop this nonsense and develop the decency to refrain from shameless attacks. Obama can and will win and when he does maybe you'll actually learn something about him instead of believing everything you read on the world wide web of lies.

Posted by: Proud American | Aug 16, 2008 11:52:55 AM

The only thing important about this book is the fact that McCain refuses to condemn it. That tells us everything we need to know about this opportunist and his mindless minions.

Posted by: Mike | Aug 16, 2008 11:51:07 AM

Like most material which is peddled by the Obama campaign, the rebuttal to Corsi's book is yet more propaganda and self-indulgent nonsense. Unfortunately for Obama many of Corsi's claims are directly supported by comments in Obama's own books - oops, has Obama not read his own books lately?! There is a reason "The Obama Nation" is number one on so many bookseller lests - the public is STARVING for the TRUTH about Barack Obama, truth the mainstream media has been disgracefully silent in reporting about. I look forward to reading Corsi's rebuttal to Obama's rebuttal!

Posted by: Muzza | Aug 16, 2008 11:49:41 AM

Kaite said:

"I am buying the book "The Obama Nation".. Yeah!"

Sure. You, the RNC, The McCain Campaign (thanking God that Corsi didn't attack him this time) and PUMAbots.

Bulk sales pushed this book to number one, not the much smaller number of individual sales. The Neocons are good at that!!! Though I continue to be amazed at the fools who think Corsi's book is true and based on real research!

Obama 08

Posted by: jackt51 | Aug 16, 2008 11:44:36 AM

It's an abomination that the media has been backing Obama from the beginning--first against Hillary and now McCain.

Corsi is vetting Obama because the MSM refused to.

Maybe Corsi stretches the truth at times but many things in the book about Obama are a fact. Enough for me to know I don't trust him and will not vote for him.

Rev Wright was enough--Obama is way too comfortable around radicals. They love him.

Posted by: riley | Aug 16, 2008 11:42:40 AM