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Joe Biden is a confirmed thief. He took another's words and ideas for his own and had to withdraw from is last national run for that reason. Do we forget?

I think you are missing the point:

"It's a tricky business to criticize -- I don't know many people who would be able to withstand what McCain went through, and it's entirely within the realm of possibility that most Americans are not paying enough attention to think he's "overplaying" anything. And even those who are paying close attention might think he's earned the right to mention those dark five and a half years.

Surely many Americans believe McCain has earned the right to tell the story of his uncommon valor however often he wants, in whatever venue he wants."

People call slavery, Jim Crow, and ongoing discrimination A CARD because they are tired of hearing it and don't want to deal with it anymore. Even if it is true. Even if it does define a nation. Even if it hasn't been fixed yet.

Same with John McCain's service. When people are tired of hearing and don't want to deal with it anymore, it becomes A CARD. Even if it is true. Even if it does define a nation. Even if it hasn't been fixed yet.

Is it unfair and unjustified?

Yes, I think it is unfair and unjustified but that is how mockery works.

I think I would rather vote for a person that made it through the conflict without getting shot down and being a POW. Sorry, but we have so many qualified pilots that did make it back, paid attention and didnt get caught that we might want to look to them for advice on how to handle a war since you spent most of it as a POW. With all due respect, I go for the logical thinker, and the one who made it. It's all been handed to you since then. Not to mention your previledged family. Go Obama, lets get some common sense in D.C.

republicans mean evil!

And don't forget his tying his love of the group ABBA to being a POW. I'm not joking. He was being teased by a reporter for loving ABBA, and he brought up being a POW. The article pointed out that ABBA didn't release their first record until a few years after McCain was released.

I used to respect McCain's honorable story, but it has truly become ridiculous. I cannot believe he doesn't have to answer any questions regarding his policies or record, and has been allowed to just repeat, "I was a POW." over and over. Why would being held captive make someone a good president anyway? By that measure, we should elect Elizabeth Smart.

Visit this Military.com wesite

A former POW refutes McCains claim. Most POWs were offered early release but refused because of service regulation and Geneva Convention. There were 600 POWs and 590 received the Silver Star medal, which makes McCain an average hero. The author of this article is a Naval Academy graduate and former fighter pilot. He was a POW for 8 1/2 years. Read the whole story.

I was in WW2 i'm proud of my service to my country the U.S of A.

Great men are made of the experience life gave them and McCain is that person I trust. Im a Democrat and to trust our country in the hands of Obama is not getting my vote, if it were Hillary she would get my vote. If he would get elected, Obama will divide this country BIG TIME. Tony

WITHOUT FAMILY INFLUENCE------THE GUY AT THE BOTTOM OF HIS CLASS COULD NEVER QUALIFY FOR NAVAL AIR ACADAMY---AND THE RESULTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES----AND SOME OF YOU WANT HIM FOR PRES. AND WE CALL BUSH DUMB---WOW
BYE

mccain was o pow by choice as vietnamese did not want him---he stayed by choice as it was a safer place for him----------I THINK WE HAVE A NAME FOR THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR.--------------REMEMBER THE USS FORESTAL.

maybe McCain crashed so many planes because he was a goof-off as a student?

so while he was supposed to be learning how to operate an aircraft, he was hung over?

if so, he may not have been able to evade north vietnamese anti-aircraft guns simply because he was just a lame student who became another mediocre and pampered pilot?

big deal. some hero...

Ted plays the dead brother "card" again.
The moon?

The problem is McCain is a one trick act. He as a POW over four decades ago. What has he really ever accomplished in the Senate?

Hello, I'm John McCain. I can live in as many houses as I like. I'm married to a wealthy woman, and I haven't accomplished much in the Senate. But I was a POW 40 years ago, so shut your mouth.

I think McCain has overplayed the POW card..I did the math...the 5 years he spent as a POW was 7% of his life.
I KNOW what he went through, I HONOR that service...
but what has he done since?
left the first wife because an accident disfigured her
was involved in the Keating 5 scandal
he speaks disrespectfully to his current wife
he gets so ANGRY
I used to like him..I have heard it said the 2000 McCain wouldn't vote for the 2008 McCain
his record on veterans legsilation is AWFUL
his colleagues speak of his temper
his humor is inappropriate: "Bomb,bomb,bomb Iran"???
frankly he scares me
perhaps 5 yrs as a POW should be viewed as a negative

"I don't know many people who would be able to withstand what McCain went through."

Some 600 in Vietnam. They all went through something terrible. But are they all qualified to be President of the United States? Probably not. McCain is milking it.

I know a man who proudly wears his dress shirts with short sleeves, even in the dead of winter in New York. Why? He is a survivor of the holocaust and is displaying his serial tattoo for all to see. He is willing to share his experience It is only one reason I admire him. He is also a traditional Democrat who will be voting for John McCain in November.

You can't say you're a war here if you're not helping your fellow vets. And McCain seems to think it's fine to live off his wife's money in luxury and elite wealth while ignoring others who have sacrificed for this country.
But he seems to have issues with commitment. like the first wife. Not being a real member of his current church, etc.

>>>sheribaby | Aug 25, 2008 1:02:08 PM

Right!

The race card never showed up before McCain's entering as B O's opponent!

Never is South Carolina!

Never in regards to Jeremiah Wright!

Never in respect to his "typical white grandmother"!

Never from the pens of his ultra-pro BO bloggers!

Never!

Frankly, I think as responses, McCain's comments were justified and appropriate.

If YOU were Mccain, what would YOUR response have been to BIDEN's dig?

Hmmmm?

Possibly some of his spokespeople are overzealous but that goes with the politial territory.... even Obama's!

"I can't recall the last vet who constantly and UN-HEROICALLY repeats the events of his service"

You forgot John Kerry that soon?

I wonder if Michelle is going to talk about how much piano lessons cost tonight? Or maybe how much camp costs?

I'm sorry, don't vote for McCain if you don't want to. But I'm never going to tell a guy who spent 5.5 years in the Hanoi Hilton (ironic, Hilton :-) that he's mentioning it too much. Frankly, he's luckly to be alive. He's done something that 99.99% of us can't even fathom, and all for our country. If you don't think it's a qualification for POTUS, God bless you, don't vote for him. But he can bring it up all he wants IMO.

A noun
A verb
and POW McCaint. lol

I can't recall the last vet who constantly and UN-HEROICALLY repeats the events of his service?

McCaint is suffering from the pangs of old age, when the aged begins to believe that they are being forgotten.
In this way, McCaint is overusing his POW status to keep his memory alive.

Either the above, or McCaint is pandering politically and being UN-HEROIC!

spock, what was all the Repub hoopla about Michelle Obama, if they aren't going after wives? You're being a just tad bit, a little hypocritical aren't ya? And it's just silly to think that McCcain doesn't share in his wife's wealth; but, you're missing the point. That's not really even the issue. The issue is that earlier in the election, he said that the economy was "fundamentally sound," that his economic policies want to continue the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy (which would benefit him and NOT the majority of the middle class), that he hs reversed himself from his former 2000 moderate maverick brand to embrace Bush' policies (which would only continue our current economic situation), and that his own mocking definition of who's wealthy is those making $5 million a year (which would exclude Obama by his own definition, as he made $4 million on his book sales, and who, btw, answered the question at the Saddleback Forum, to include those in the $200k bracket, as being part of the upper 5%, considering the relativity of geography of course). It goes beyond the pale that he wants to help those who could afford seven homes as he has, when so many are struggling to hold onto one. That's what makes him out of touch - not that he CAN afford that many, but that he seems utterly unwilling to help any but those who can also afford that many. He even has the man responsible for the housing/mortgage crisis and banking failures through deregulation, in his trusted circle of advisors, Phil Gramm.

John McCain wouldn't give up those five years in prison if it also meant giving up the excuse to leave his first wife, pick up an heiress half his age, and live the pampered life of a senator with 12 houses the rest of his life.

Pink Elephant, you have got to be one of the most reasonable posters I've read in a long time.

It will be a great day in America when Barack Obama and his hate filled supporters get defeated in Novmeber.

Biden is one to talk, lets see how many homes does Obama's hero the Drunk Ted Kennedy own, or Pelosi, or Gore or Kerry. It is not a sin in this country to own more then one home, hey Obama wants to bail out those people who foreclosed on there 2nd or 3rd or more house. And as pointed out John McCain does not own those houses, hi wife does. So now the Obama camp is going after wives huh?

As far as the POW, only the libs think he is saying it too much, because hey they do not know what a real hero is.

Jake - you should do a blog on the Biden who was instrumental on Clinton getting us involved in a civil war in Kosovo, which is why Russia is mad at us now and in Georgia!

Anyone But Obama in 08'

geevill, since when were campaign slogans and platitudes such as "hope," "change" and "yes, we can" cards? And Obama didn't play the race card; the McCain camp tried to invoke it from him, by injecting race into the campaign with their disparaging ads, using code words and images. we're not stupid. Ask David Gergen who's from the south. Are McCain's "reform,"
"prosperity," and "peace" cards also? LMAO.

Paige said: "As a 'resident from Illinois' I would expect you to know that Obama gave up a very lucrative career to come back to Chicago as a community organizer to help re-build the south side from closed down plants."

You mean Barack came to Illinois to make political connections, living in a luxury condo nearly the entire time, all the while never had worked one day at a real job at any point in his entire life.

Obama and Reverend Wright...play off disadvantaged minorities while they live in luxury in white neighborhoods.

The experience McCain went through as a POW does not entitle him to be President or to use that tragic experience as an excuse for all his mistakes and other issues he must confront.

He and his campaign are using it in away that does a disservice to all of our Veteran's some of whom may have suffered far worse experiences, and permanent damage both physical and mental.

McCain is a fraud.

Given the fact that McCain is a decorated former POW makes his abandonment of veterans and current troops even worse. The Disabled American Veterans gave him a 20% voting record on vet's issues. The Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave him a letter grade of D.

McCain is a hypocrite. He voted against every bill that has come forward in the last two years to increase veterans health services. He spoke against the new GI Bill, then did not bother to show up to even vote on it. He voted against a mandatory rest period for troops between deployments. He voted against armored vehicles and flak vests for Nat'l. Guard and Reservists. I am one disgusted vet who is not buying the BS that he supports the troops and veterans.

geevill, I didn't say anything about what Biden was promoting about himself or not - that was squintz. And you still haven't addressed the Repub double standard when it comes to military service. Nuf said.

Geevil, you are obviously a Republican through-and-through. You're no Democrat. Go ahead and vote for McSame.

JA, you are misinformed. Barack Obama has not run on being black, nor has he repeatedly reminded voters that he is (why would he have to or want to, which would be stupid and counterproductive with racist whites?) He has run on bringing people of different races, cultures and socieconomic backgrounds together to solve problems, united. He mentioned on SOME - some campaign speeches that the McCain camp would try to scare voters about him being different, question his patriotism, and make fun of his name, all of which they've already done. Also McCain has an internet ad in which he features Obama on dollar bills and changing everything in America, including the Statue of Liberty and Mount Rushmore, if he were elected, which is ridiculous, and is clearly a scare tactic to incite fear in white racist voters wary that blacks want to "take over.") Then when he called them on it, they said that HE injected race into the campaign. They got their desired result: they got to inject race into the campaign but make it LOOK like Obama did, and was playing the "race card."

The problem is that McCain has said he doesn't like to talk about his POW experience.

Yet he has used video footage and images from that experience since the beginning of his campaign. And now his campaign is using it to avoid criticism of his gaffes.

It may help him in an election but not so much if he becomes President.

sheribaby,
I am a Democrat. voted for Clinton in the primary. will vote for McCain in November.

and Biden is free to exploit his tragic hair loss and transplant surgery anytime.

Well, that's all he has. That's how he defines himself - POW. Can he get away from it? I don't think so. My own husband served under horrible conditions and he still suffers from PTSD, so I am pretty sure McSame has his spells. What meds does he take? Invoking his POW experiences for even a hangnail serves only to diminish his service. What about his judgement...should have been more observant, maybe he wouldn't have got shot down.

POW: Prisoner of W.

Biden "never exploits" his own tragic personal history?! Obama just mentioned it in his introduction of Biden two days ago! What are you Biden apologists smoking, and where can I get some?

I can certainly understand why superior beings like Maureen Dowd, Jake Tapper and Andrew Sullivan, who haven't sacrificed jack for this country, would be embarrassed by Senator McCain's superior record of service to this country.

But I think most Americans will see that for the bitter jealousy that it is.

geevill, would that be like non-serving Bush and Cheney swiftboating true vet Kerry (and Gore)? It's not service itself that interests you, but Republicans (whether they have served or not) because you Repubs attack Dems whether they have served or not, even Dems who HAVE served, by Repubs who have NOT served! You Republicans play by double standard rules.

I don't understand how McCain can constantly talk about being a POW. I have several freinds that were in Vietnam and they have never spoken about their experiences. They said the horrors were so unspeakable that things were better left unsaid. And they weren't even POW's. I'm not trying to minimize what McCain went through but geeze. How was he not traumatized by it.

There were vets who were in Hanoi longer than McCain (as he readily admits that when he said that he said "no" to early release, not wanting to "jump the line" to be released before others who had been imprisoned longer than he, and unfairly exploit his father's clout), and they don't broadcast it as he does. Also, most veterans of war want to avoid war as much as possible, unlike McCain. Maybe he wants to remind voters of his service because he wants to continue it vicariously through any war he can get approved as POTUS, with the American people's support, to make up for not being able to finish the fight in Vietnam, due to his capture. Except he still won't be fighting, our children would be, deadly and expensive, whcih our economy can't aford any more of, unless absolutely necessary. Can we say that of Iraq, which he keeps pumping, without having met any of the political goals, goals that were established as mission for occupation, after learning that intelligence on WMDs was faulty?

Hype Bites - When people call into question McCain's repeated political use of his POW experience, they're not mocking it. I, for one, don't think it should be used to get ahead politically, and to do so, trivializes the equal and greater horrors young Americans have recently been through.

I've met people who have been victims of war, relatives victims of WWII, and what I've seen is that those painful, torturous experiences have colored the way they relate to others, to life. It was painful to hear, it was painful to watch. Painful to watch them question what had they sacrificed so much for.

I wonder how those in military service today feel, those that have seen the horrors of Iraq, Afghanistan, do they worry that years from now their experiences will be mocked, however traumatic it has been for them. Makes you wonder why anyone would want to serve so that others ungratefully enjoy the benefits.

Jake,
The question is whether McCain is devaluing the experiences of other POWs and military men/women for his own political gain and ambition.

By repeatedly citing his POW experience as a reply to ANY critique of his actions, he does 3 things: (1) emasculates any criticism because the media is afraid to push back, (2) plays to Americans' tendency to worship all things military, and (3) he makes a mockery of the experiences of other POWs by politicizing the experience.

Imagine if a Holocaust survivor did the same thing.

Since McCain is invoking his POW experience as a qualification, he should also reassure voters that the experience is behind him. Is he really out of captivity in a war zone? I tend to think not with his bellicose rhetoric on foreign policy, along with his willingness to stay in war with Iraq and commit to a new one with Iran.

Hey geevil, Biden has a son in Iraq RIGHT NOW. Not to mention, he has a pretty dire personal history himself which I've NEVER heard him exploit. If the GOP wants to use personal struggles as a get out of jail free card, they should more carefully consider the episodes their opponents could just as effectively exploit.

John McCain survived 5 years of torture as a POW and made a successful career in politics afterwards.

Barack Obama survived years of voluntary cocaine, heroin and pot abuse to make a successful career of giving speeched of what he might do or would do or other hypotheticals (not what he has done or will do - because he has no major life accomplishments).

Outside of cheapening the most relevant portion of McCain's bio, I'm astounded that NO ONE in the MSM has questioned the logic of pressing the POW issue on voters over and over again. Of course people see it as a heroic episode, but I seriously question whether the issue comforts voters regarding McCain's presidential sensibilities. First, it only adds to the "old" narrative, and second, it conjures up questions about what kind of impact such an episode has on one's emotional and mental stability. Anyone considering this portion of his bio would have to ask themselves, how would such a thing impact my own decision making abilities were it to happen to me? Not to mention, anyone who actually knows a POW would have a good idea of the type of negative impact torture and imprisonment has on a person. Again, it's not just a question of heroism and patriotism, it's a question of competence and stability. I'm just not convinced that the public considers this as a positive part of his resume when it comes to actually running the country.

McCain is using his POW status like an addict blaming having had a miserable childhood for his addiction - he thinks it gives him a free pass no matter what he does. People have to look at who he is *NOW* and not who he was then or before because it his approach to *NOW* that is what his presidency would be about. I do not think he is a bad man, I do think his "handlers" are disrespecting his - and veterans in general - service and sacrifice for this country though unlike most of the other talking points they are rehearsing him on, using this one seems to bother him less.

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Kind of like Obama is blaming his childhood for his use of cocaine and pot?? LOL!!

McCain is using his POW status like an addict blaming having had a miserable childhood for his addiction - he thinks it gives him a free pass no matter what he does. People have to look at who he is *NOW* and not who he was then or before because it his approach to *NOW* that is what his presidency would be about. I do not think he is a bad man, I do think his "handlers" are disrespecting his - and veterans in general - service and sacrifice for this country though unlike most of the other talking points they are rehearsing him on, using this one seems to bother him less.

Astute S. arote:Hey Trish, as far as I know the Democrats (including Obama), do not want to renew the tax cuts when they expire at the end of next year.
That means every one's taxes will go up!

go read Obama's tax plan (fat chance of that), take economy 101 this year in college, and get back to us.

Upset because true patriotic Americans respect McCain's service? Especially when compared to draft evader Biden and drug user Obama?

Well, McCain should be able to use his background at least as much as Obama cites his oh so difficult years as a community organizer...

Well, McCain should be able to use his background at least as much as Obama cites his oh so difficult years as a community organizer...

Hey Trish, as far as I know the Democrats (including Obama), do not want to renew the tax cuts when they expire at the end of next year.

That means every one's taxes will go up!

Astutestudent-watch the Saddleback Forum and you will have your answers. Warren asked this of both candidates.

D,

Biden supported the surge. Biden criticized Obama harshly for suggesting that we set timetables for withdrawal. Biden is among the strongest proponents of the Iraq war on the Democratic side.

Obama has just abandoned 1 of the three legs on which he has run. He has alienated the far left in the hopes of gaining some of the base, moderate democrats.

We'll see how this plays out. But this doesn't look good for the Democratic party.

The veterans that I know--all of them honest, responsible husbands and fathers--really don't like to talk about their war experiences.

McCain seems a braggart in comparison with them.

S

Mccain WAS a better guy before he sold his soul to become President.

and as for Clinton again go look at the new numbers from the CBS NYT Poll ...

Looks more and more like this has all been hype... and a couple of angry people who don't have a grasp on reality and what most Dems are fighting for ...most Hillary supporters are fighting for...

issues and the people that are effected by those issues

5% ...yes just 5% of Hillary supporters at this convention are saying they won't support Barack.

5% ...do you know pre-convention what Bill Clinton's level of defections was? You should go look it up ...

Bill would have been happpy pre-convention with twice that number.

Everyone is starting to realize just a small group of angry emotional people with an internet voice that more and more people are saying ...

"That person is on my side?!"

Your push for Hillary unfortunately is now hurting her...

and that is bad... it is not her that is hurting the issues and the country...it is this small band of very mislead individuals that are putting their own spite and let down feelings over issues, the country, Hillary's future (which could be awesome if she doesn't get blamed for a handful of whackos that happen to be on her side and she can't get this one small group to shut up).

at this point hopefully people are starting to realize that it is about the people...and hopefully they will not associate Clinton directly with groups like pUMA and some of these weird voices spewing bologne supposedly on her behalf.

turn on your tv if you think otherwise.

SZimmerman,

How often are we reminded, by the media and Barack Obama himself, that he's black? That the Republicans will try to scare people for voting for him because "did I mention", he's black.

Get over it. Obama has run on three thigns:
1. "Change" - of which we still don't know what he has in mind
2. Voted against Iraq
3. Being black

The Keating 5 - again

1 Republican

4 Democrats

John McCain and John Glenn were not found "guilty" of anything.

Astute Student wrote:and more importantly B. Obama has said that he will only raise taxes on the rich, so if he thinks everyone making a lower figure is rich, guess what, THEY WILL BE TAXED FOR SURE (when in reality, we all will be).

Go read Obama's tax plan for yourself instead of trying to play with the truth. Who knows, after you spend some time ACTUALLY reading his plan you might live up to your name.

All politicians do it. Look at how many times Michelle Obama said that America is a mean country or the number of times she said that she is proud of her country for the first time. Big deal, people say over and over what they really feel.

Dear Mr. Tapper,

Someone needs to ask Sen. Obama what his definition of "rich" is, since he keeps blasting McCain for saying $5million makes one rich.

You see, if Sen. Obama gives a much lower figure:
a. Someone who makes that amount will come out say, "I'm not rich, I have tuition for my kids, etc."

and more importantly B. Obama has said that he will only raise taxes on the rich, so if he thinks everyone making a lower figure is rich, guess what, THEY WILL BE TAXED FOR SURE (when in reality, we all will be).

FOOD FOR THOUGHT, Mr. Tapper. I'd ask the good Senator next time you see him.

Peach everyone voted for the war. They were presented with false facts. Fortunately Biden had the good sense to later say it was a mistake as most dems have said including Hillary.

Jake, you forgot one more instance where McCain benefitted from using the POW-get-out-of-jail-free-card: during the Keating Five hearings.

Then it was his buddy Bob Dole who invoked it: "He has been held hostage before under very difficult circumstances. So let us not keep him hostage here in the Senate," according to the New York Times on October 23, 1990.

Why doesn't anyone mention why Biden didn't serve in Vietnam?

And that Biden got an "F" in R.O.T.C while in college at University of Delaware. Fine back-up commander in chief he will make.

John McCain spent 5 years in a prison camp. Obama spent several years on the streets of NY doing hard drugs.

Leave John McCain and his POW horror out of this conversation, he can use it as often as he wants.

Five years is a long time to be isolated from the world, let alone having your body brutally abued...these kinds of events are with you forever, each waking moment.

Ever have a horrific car accident, lose a child, this doe not come close to what Mc Cain endured.

He has earned the right to talk about his service any time he feels like it.. He does not use it in a distasteful way. Some here have no idea what sacrifice means. Imagine being in his place for one day...let alone five long years.

some of you people make me ill.Where is your compassion...????????????????

Mary Rose Mangia, I don't think anyone is questioning McCain's military service, but it is legitimate to criticize his constant reference to his being a POW when asked questions concerning his policies.

During the primaries, McCain was asked during a debate to define his economic plans, he went off once again on his military service and his POW years, never answering the question.

He is overplaying his POW status by using it to avoid a dialogue on the issues.

S-""No self respecting woman should wish for or work for the success of a party that ignores her sex" Susan B. Anthony
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So you would rather vote for the candidate that responded "That's an excellent question" to the person at a town hall meeting asking 'How do we beat the b***h?" referring to your candidate? The man with the worst voting record on women's issues? Your voting against your candidates wishes? "Country First" If you mean Big oil, Haliburton and tax breaks to those shipping jobs overseas? That's the "country first" you are voting for? Not buying it - sorry.

Obama whines constantly that McCain is unfit for the presidency because his judgment is flawed because he voted for the Iraq war.

So what does it say about Obama's judgment that he chose a VP who voted for the Iraq war?

I honor and respect the service of John McCain. I recognize and applaud his time spent as a POW. I am having difficulty seeing him use his POW experience as political tool. I have seen him use POW from time his whole political career began. And just recently McCain has used POW extensively - even there was no relevance to subject topic.

John McCain's reputation is tarnished by continuing to use POW as an excuse. I feel sorry for all other POW's.

Sen. John McCain is an amazing American. How many among us, given the situation he found himself in in POW captivity, when asked if he would take the "early release" due to his Admiral father's rank, would say "NO" and choose to stay as a POW so those before you could go sooner? HOW MANY? Not me. It is a testament to the character of John McCain. I am a Hillary Clinton supporter, lifelong Dem activist who will vote for McCain if the Dems foolishly nominate the unqualified and unelectable Obama. Country first, party second.

It's about holding the DNC accountable for their failure to denounced the rampant sexism, classism, racism and voter disenfranchisement continually interjected into this campaign by Barack Obama, his campaign, his nasty supporters and ALL media. In fact, the DNC is complicit in disenfranchising voters. The entire process has been very undemocratic. To vote for Obama is to condone what he and the Dem party has done. Don't do it. Speak out with a loud and clear message, WE do not accept this nominee. WE want Hillary, who is qualified and electable. Superdelegates who will decide this nomination this week in Denver should choose the most electable candidate, Hillary Clinton.

For the record, what was done to Max Cleland in the Georgia Senate race was dispicable. John Kerry deserved what he got ( and I worked very hard on his campaign in 2004 )

"No self respecting woman should wish for or work for the success of a party that ignores her sex" Susan B. Anthony

Let's take the Dem party back, one neighborhood at a time.

Any McCain gaffe excuse is he was once a POW. Okay that was years ago. This is now. It's as Sean Hannity claiming it was okay for McCain to cheat on his first wife b/c he was a POW.

The truth will come out this fall. Democrats are not the only ones who can get swift boated.