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August 25, 2008 7:56 AM

The Clintons - especially Bill - are providing some behind-the-scenes drama, Politico reports, with former President Bill Clinton reportedly disappointed that he will be speaking on the night devoted to "Securing America's Future."

"The former president is disappointed, associates said, because he is eager to speak about the economy and more broadly about Democratic ideas - emphasizing the contrast between the Bush years and his own record in the 1990s," Politico reports. "This is an especially sore point for Bill Clinton, people close to him say, because among many grievances he has about the campaign Obama waged against his wife is a belief that the candidate poor-mouthed the political and policy successes of his two terms."

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, meanwhile, will speak to her delegates on Wednesday, thanking them and urging them to vote for Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, during the roll call vote.

The McCain camp is running TV ads trying to exploit to anger and hurt feelings of Clinton supporters, questioning why Obama didn't pick her as his VP in one ad and featuring Debra Bartoshevich, a former Clinton delegate, extolling McCain in another.

In the ad Bartoshevich says, "I'm a proud Hillary Clinton Democrat. She had the experience and judgment to be President. Now, in a first for me, I'm supporting a Republican, John McCain. I respect his maverick and independent streak, and now he's the one with the experience and judgment. A lot of Democrats will vote McCain. It's okay, really!"

- jpt

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This whole Democratic Convention is just full of crap. Michelle Obama's speech was a disappointment. It was just another con-job.
Bring back the Clintons. They had class and cared for all Americans. Obama does not represent me or my family. We are not socialist.

Posted by: Mary | Aug 25, 2008 11:29:32 PM

I watched the ad, I kept waiting for a funny punchline, but nothing. I can see why she supports McCain though - that same fake smile. I halfway expected her to say 'my friends' at the end.

Posted by: news junkie | Aug 25, 2008 5:17:14 PM

Quote: "Difference of opinion is what makes horse races. The assumption that ANY "black" vote belongs to The CHANGEling isn't a good one -- much of the black intelligentsia, on the "left" as well as the "right" -- and I don't mean shameless CNN shill Roland Martin -- is ANTI-Obama."

That isn't true, of course. You know that, don't you? And where do you get off with this "changeling" slur? From where I sit, it fits McCain better, as he switched positions on just about everything in his passion to be president.

Quote: "There is no more "racist" assumption, in fact, than that "blacks" belong to Obama -- who belongs, in every way that matters, to the anti-democratic "leadership" of the Democratic Party, a bunch of rich white guys from the northeast."

And what then shall we say of the GOP? A bunch of rich white guys from the south and midwest? I'm stricken at the difference in the makeup of the crowds McCain attracts and those who come to see Obama. Ken Mehlmann apologized in 2005 for his party's forty-year history of race-baiting politics. There's no point in denying it. It is what it is, and the GOP's ascension has not been a pretty thing. I have respect for men like the Steeles, but no respect at all for the Republican Party.

Posted by: purplehawk | Aug 25, 2008 3:58:23 PM

I have no qualms voting for McCain; to quote one who thinks he's great:

"That's not the Democratic Party I knew."

Posted by: marylou | Aug 25, 2008 3:16:51 PM

Quote: "I am black and am not voting for Obama. Get over it!"

PUMA, my behind. I don't believe you.
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Difference of opinion is what makes horse races. The assumption that ANY "black" vote belongs to The CHANGEling isn't a good one -- much of the black intelligentsia, on the "left" as well as the "right" -- and I don't mean shameless CNN shill Roland Martin -- is ANTI-Obama.

There is no more "racist" assumption, in fact, than that "blacks" belong to Obama -- who belongs, in every way that matters, to the anti-democratic "leadership" of the Democratic Party, a bunch of rich white guys from the northeast.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Aug 25, 2008 3:00:58 PM

Quote: "I am black and am not voting for Obama. Get over it!"

PUMA, my behind. I don't believe you.

Posted by: purplehawk | Aug 25, 2008 2:53:17 PM

"Any woman who voted for Hillary and is willing to sell out Roe and vote for McCain is a petulant child who deserves no respect."
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The threat that ANYbody will put illegal abortion BACK on the table is silly -- and "Roe" is a flawed vehicle, in any case.

The courts are cooked, the imperial economy is toast, and in India, where the corporations go for labor, people who'd like NOT to are eating rats.

Unless they go for world-wide slaughter (by listeriosis, anthrax, or some similar Machiavellian vehicle), the white supremacists have been out-BRED, even in the US -- and whatever global CHANGE is imminent is not going to go in the favor of Anglo-American empire (OR of John Kerry's post-partisan pet, the "black" who's fronting for it).

Survivalism -- not right-Democrat politicians bragging about making it to the political elite from the disappearing "middle" classes -- is the concern of more Americans, of any color or place of national origin, than the media masters suppose.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Aug 25, 2008 2:37:06 PM

When Obama loses the election. It will be all over for him politically.
Hillary will be the nominee in 2012. She will return America to peace and prosperity for all. She will be our President.
OBAMA IS THE BIGGEST WHINER THAT THERE IS OR EVER WiLL BE.

Posted by: basil | Aug 25, 2008 2:02:58 PM

Any woman who voted for Hillary and is willing to sell out Roe and vote for McCain is a petulant child who deserves no respect. Period.

Posted by: CJ | Aug 25, 2008 1:56:51 PM

Great ad....from my guess MILLIONS of us are supporting McCain since Hillary dropped out. After hearing the disgruntled caller on C-Span this morning angrily express their feelings about how Hillary was treated throughout the primaries, and on May 31 when only 1/2 the delegate count was awarded WHEN SHE WAS STILL IN THE GAME, but now that she's not FL. AND MI GET FULL DELEGATE COUNT! What a sham the Dem Party is!
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
As much as I like Biden, Americans vote for the TOP of the ticket and his cred and experience can't give it to Bozo.
Biden does not take the stink off BO.
McCain '08/Hillary '12

Posted by: Debra | Aug 25, 2008 1:32:26 PM

"He already has backtracked on everything."
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So why nominate him? If he's this bad as a candidate, how bad would he be in office? At least we KNOW what "Republicans" do, and are able to fight back without being called racists, etc.

As for "drama", the "Stop the Drama" slogan was aimed at the FEMALE candidate -- but The CHANGEling's "drama" of the bogus VP text message put the whole political process into the sandbox.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Aug 25, 2008 12:26:08 PM

McCain's presidency will not bring misery. Stop the drama -- Obama will not do 1 percent of what you think he will. He already has backtracked on everything. I say a video clip where he said that what the nation does not need is Joe Biden -- Voila -- who does he pick? Joe Biden -- He cannot be trusted. Wake up.

Posted by: free at last | Aug 25, 2008 12:06:42 PM

That's a great ad, I really like it! A cute girl representing my views, exactly. What is not to like about that?

Posted by: OxyCon | Aug 25, 2008 11:46:13 AM

"thanks for your comments. Glad I caught them."
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Having seen the communications shut-down during the primaries, and the outrageous media manipulation of the voters during the primaries, the likely shutdown of "public expression" in the event of the national ascendance of the Chicago machine is not a happy one.

Note that the Ayers-Obama "education" project in Chicago was a "non-profit" operation. All over the country now, most social and cultural activities which were formerly community-based and democratic (plain vanilla Robert's Rules) have been taken over by "non-profits" (running, as likely as not, on the imperial unitary-executive model of "Roberta's Rules", i.e., no democratic static).


Posted by: Belle Starr | Aug 25, 2008 11:33:30 AM

Why does the media keep calling these people who aren't supporting Clinton 'Clinton Supporters'?

Posted by: Mike | Aug 25, 2008 11:21:24 AM

Belle - thanks for your comments. Glad I caught them.

PUMA!

Posted by: LeeLee07 | Aug 25, 2008 11:20:35 AM

"I can't vote for anyone I can't trust."
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Well, Obama lied about passing a nuclear bill (rewritten by Ayers-Exelon) in Iowa, misrepresented his mother's circumstances, lied about his long association with Weathermen Ayers and Dohrn, then tried to suppress the information in the University of Illinois LIBRARY.

You "trust" somebody who screws with university libraries? Maybe you SHOULDN'T.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Aug 25, 2008 11:20:08 AM

These crybabies make me ill.

Posted by: Anna | Aug 25, 2008 11:04:46 AM

McCain's camp is using the classic divide and conquer tactics in using Democrats against Democrats. This may serve to define John McCain rather than fracture Democratic voters. The tactics seem borne of desperation more than anything else. It's sad, really.

Posted by: kat | Aug 25, 2008 10:54:51 AM

"5% ! of Hillary voters at the convention said they would not support obama."
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many members of the hijacked Democratic Party will, in the theoretical "privacy" of the ballot, vote for Nader, or for Cynthia McKinney, or for Bob Barr.

In a situation of total surveillance, at a convention run by associates of a mob-friendly "post-partisan", it's surprising that ANY delegates openly express their intentions to oppose Chicago.

Why anybody would pay ANY attention to "polls" -- let alone participate in them! -- under what amounts to police-state conditions, is an interesting question.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Aug 25, 2008 10:51:30 AM

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