Political Punch

>>>> Nathalie Guyol | Aug 23, 2008 12:45:02 PM <<<<

WHEREVER YOU GO
THIS YOU SHOULD KNOW
NO MATTER W H O WINS,
OUR COUNTRY WILL G R O W !!!

COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!

except for the names,
Obama and Biden
could easily be confused with

Bush and Cheney!

NOW
MCCain and MITT....
soundz like M and M's to me!

I think the reason for Obama's strange hour of stating Biden as his VP choice was due to the Secret Service's leak. Anyone care to bet a head roles on this. SECRET Service - hummm?

Obama/Biden--The Democrats version of Bush/Cheney...

Arrogant,inexperienced presidential candidate propped up by an older, experienced attack dog.

It's 3A.M. and Obama is afraid and desperate.
So he chose a 35 year Washington insider
to make up for his lack of experience.

I thought the Obama camp didn't care about polls.

Sorry, but Politico gave CNN credit for pinning Biden as VP at around 12:40 am today. Secret Service leaks don't and shouldn't count.

Hacienda: "So, this is why, despite Hillary's instruction, I do not see the path to voting for Obama, and will simply hold out for her candidacy in 4 years."

Not to worry; if McCain wins because of people like you (remember how Nader gave us Bush?) there most likely won't be a country left worth governing, so Billary won't have won much.

Me? I'll be in Paris.

If McCain picks Romney, Biden will get his behind thoroughly kicked. Biden is a Washington DC poser who will be hoist with his own petard. This has to be a Clinton sabotage scheme that has succeeded. Vote against the cheater/poser in '08, for Hillary in '12.

This is a great choice for Barack!!... Obama/Biden 08

"I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who..."

How does this quote end? What cheap political cra* to use half a sentence in a paid political ad...

Old white guy? Check.
36 years in Washington? Check.
Voted for Iraq? Check.
Hair-trigger temper? Check.

McCain? No.
Biden? Check!!!!

Ha Ha Ha! The Dems offer up an empty suit and a plagiarizing windbag.

I love it! This is a gift for the GOP.

Good for Joe, although I am a bit annoyed as in my opinion he's one of them! Hopefully Barack will be able to keep his health to control his new VP.

I truly cannot fathom why anyone would consider John Mccain someone you would want leading our country. He's pathetic.

Believe what ya want, when November comes history will be made...

Obama '08!

HAHAHAH well at least Obama will lose now, but at the end of the day we are gonna be stuck with another crappy politican in McCain...

Our poor country.

Biden strongly supported the Iraq war and also Clinton's 1998 Iraqi Liberation Act. How does this square with Obama's staunch opposition to the war? Very strange...

so much hate why? Obama/Biden is a far more appetizing ticket than McCain/Romney or should I say 4 more years of McSame/Cheney the average taxpayer can't afford 4 more years of republican tax breaks and war mongering. It's time to end the Iraq war and get the veterans the help that Bush promised them in 2004 "A Promised Made Is A Promise Kept" he lied just ask the 22,000 PDO discharges that were actually PTSD cases the Army didn't want the VA to pay for, so much for caring for the troops, and where are the groups Vets for Freedom, Pete Hegseth and Eric Egland and "Troops Need You" on this issue "AWOL" they don't care about the veterans of this war, just the fact that it keeps going, and Ari Fleischer and Freedoms Watch same thing keep the republican war machine in motion and keep raising the national debt and leave it to our grand children, whatever happeneed to paying for our wars as we fought them?

We can't afford 4 more years of Republican leadership, this nation needs Obama/Biden

I am a disabled Infantryman who served from the Vietnam era to Desert Storm and 100% disabled by the VA I earned my opinion the old fashioned way, in uniform.

Hasn't Biden been around Washington forever? How is this change?

Peach, find yourself some new material, and don't forget to watch the Dream Team debut at 3PM ET today.

dmac1:

Nervous? Hardly. What you're seeing among Republicans is elation. We've got a ticket: The Hero vs The Zero.

Man, I hear a lot of nervous rhetoric on here today. What a great ticket...Change and experience! These are two of the most intelligent people to ever grace Washington. Finally, the re-emergence of intelligence and integrity to the Whitehouse. Meet me at the inauguration.

Obama really slammed Hillary by the timing of this release.

Did anyone else notice that the info on the VP pick was released at 3:00 a.m.?

Hillary didn't get that 3:00 a.m. call.

All Republicans have to say to Biden when he attacks McCain is:

"Senator Biden, didn't you try to push a Kerry/McCain ticket in 2004?"

Why yes. Yes he did. hehehe

No wonder they call Biden a plagiarist.

He was caught at it twice!!!

I'll bet John McCain had said "No thank you Mr Keating I don't want your money".

McCain/Romney= Mr Magoo & Mr Thurston Howell III

I can see the bumper stickers now:

Obama bin Biden

Posted by: Peach | Aug 23, 2008 6:21:30 AM
-------------------------------------
...it really is good isn't it?
could kinda grow on you...Obama bin Biden...

We now have a race: The Hero vs. The Zero

I can see the bumper stickers now:

Obama bin Biden

Biden, who has been in the senate since Obama was 11 years old.

Real change we can believe in! Yeah sure

Gee... Obama picks the man who in the ABC debate says "Obama is not ready to be president."

Love it..Biden an attack dog? Because Obama is soft so he needs someone who can actually man-up?

This is a gift to McCain, Thank you Obama for showing poor judgement yet again.

From a Pa. gun clinger who will switch over to McCain.

Oh, come on HACIENDA, you doubt Obama's judgment and competence? You think Hillary is more competent and has better judgment? If that is true, why is she in big debt now? Doesn't that tell you she has poor judgment and is not as competent as you thought her to be? And if your, her supporters, do love her and support her that much, why don't her 18 million supporters help her pay her debt? If each of you will give her a dollar, she will be able to settle her debt.

Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007: “The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”

Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who...”

Let the landslide begin.

Let's see
Clinton 18 million votes
Biden 18 votes

buh bye Barry

ryan j - "nice pick - byebye mccain"? Surely you're not serious. As a DC insider, Biden totally inverts Obama's "Hope and Change" message.

keith - Why do you overlook Obama's gaffes and sieze upon McCain's? McCain no more believes that Afghanistan borders Iraq than Obama believes there are 57 states. They both make gaffes occasionally.

I think the public is realizing how empty Obama's suit and dreams are. The election will not even be that close. The Dems found a way to blow another presidential election. Nice work, nutroots!

Great pick..solid ticket..bye bye mccain

You guys forget that Biden told everyone that the presidency is no learnon the job type of thing. Meaning that Barack Hussein Obama does not have any experience...

Obama just pissed off even more Hillary supporters by not even considering her...LOL good job dumbo!

Can you say Hillary in 2012?

I like it when everyone just gets along and agrees about everything. These comments are upsetting to my naturally calm and serene state of being. Why can't everyone here just agree? What is wrong?

A drama worth nothing - It's been Joe all the time, why did Obama turn up so much heat? This is indeed an ego-centric man -- he wants all the light on him by faking the drama, yet, the reflection is not that good. The more Obama does this, the less respect I have for him.

sorry Barrack no Hillary no vote!

I MIGHT reconsider. It actually pains me to think about voting Republican this year. It would be my first time voting Republican for president. I was very excited about the prospect of voting for the Democrats, with Hillary at the top of the ticket. But I have yet to see Obama paint the vision for his judgment, competence, and executive leadership style (which I saw from Hillary, and, to a lesser extent, McCain). I have heard a lot about "change" (don't know what that means) and houses from Obama. This year, judgment and leadership trump ideology, though, and Obama has not yet presented himself as a credible executive. Btw, I live in swing state Virginia -- this is what is holding him back there among other people I talk to in our state.

Barack the thinker and brains just got himself a ATTACK DOG,

be very afraid MAGOO. be very very afraid.

i've lost all faith in humanity.

so...many...idiots....i can't take it, my head is going to explode...

Biden is the right man, he got experience and besides that he knows how the system works in Dc.

So you agree that a vote for McCain is spitting in the face of everything the Clintons stand for, but in honor of her, you're going to vote for McCain on the off chance that he'll just tread water for 4 years? He won't appoint 2, possibly 3 more Roberts or Alito's or Saclia's? Won't get us entangled in more and more horrific wars?

What guarantee do you even have that she'd be the nominee in 2012? What if another Democrat beats her again? You could find yourself voting Republican for quite a while...

I hope you'll reconsider... I sincerely do...

Keith, the reason that I am able to overlook Hillary Clinton's endorsement of Obama is quite simple. I believe that everyone is capable of forming individual opinions. I also believe that it is highly implausible to find a candidate with whom you are in 100% agreement, 100% of the time. The fact that I supported--and continue to support--Hillary Clinton does not compel me to follow her EVERY direction.

She gave a moving concession speech -- I was there. But, rather than convincing me to support Obama, the speech simply cemented my loyalties to her. And the events since her speech have reinforced for me what made her candidacy so compelling--the need for sound and seasoned executive experience and judgment. McCain brings that to the table; Obama does not. And Obama's statements subsequent to securing the nomination highlight the lack of substance and grasp of the world in which we live.

So, this is why, despite Hillary's instruction, I do not see the path to voting for Obama, and will simply hold out for her candidacy in 4 years.

Hacienda,

You haven't addressed how you're able to overlook the fact that Hillary Clinton has endorsed Barack Obama and urged her supporters (presumably you) to vote for him...

I originally backed Wes Clark for president... when he decided not to run and endorsed Hillary Clinton, my logic was, if I trusted Wes to be president, why not trust his judgment as to who ELSE should be president if not him... and I voted for Hillary in the California primary... she lost my support when she started favorably comparing McCain's experience to even her own... but that doesn't change the fact that you're planning on voting for the person who's been doing everything in his power to undo what she and her husband have spent their lives working for on the off chance that we'll tread water for 4 years and she'll be magically elected...

I'm sorry, you seem like a really smart individual, but that's just insane... and in no way reflective of your support of Hillary Clinton...

THE ONLY good thing about BIDEN is that
King OBAMA will be impeached within a year:

And then Biden will be POTUS
at least Biden will NOT destroy this country as Dictator Obama will.

YOU DO NEED TO READ all about
"THE LAW OF THE SEAS" treaty:

OBAMA supports it and it will be devastation for the USA, our merchants and our Military:

Keith--I guess I can overlook those things when I compare them to Obama's other intellectual deficiencies, which would impair his judgment and executive leadership capabilities:

· Last May, he claimed that Kansas tornadoes killed a whopping 10,000 people: "In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed." The actual death toll: 12.

· Earlier this month in Oregon, he redrew the map of the United States: "Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go."

· Last March, on the anniversary of the Bloody Sunday march in Selma, Alabama, he claimed his parents united as a direct result of the civil rights movement: "There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born." Obama was born in 1961. The Selma march took place in 1965.

McCain - Ace
Beats
Obama - Zero + Biden - Deuce

I does not matter who McCain picks for VP.

Game Over

Hacienda,

How can you vote for someone who thinks Iraq borders Afghanistan?

And the you'll vote for someone who thinks a 9 year old girl reading a poem is sniper fire...

******MORE RACE CARDS BEING PLAYED********
pssst... johnny... when someone (i.e. you) makes a racist comment, it's
"not "playing the race card" to point it out... it's pointing out a racist a-hole (i.e. you)..."
Posted by: Keith | Aug 23, 2008 3:03:59 AM

Obama scrubs himself so much you'd think he'd be all black now...

that does not make as much sense, but if all black is a better metaphor for a good scrub, have at it.

Ummm... he CAUSED the Forrestal fire...

You said Marxist. Hah.

You said Marxist. Hah.

David--how could you vote for someone who believes that he'll be travelling to "all 57 states"? I thought you learned better in Kindergarten.

McCain '08! Clinton '12!

As I stated before, if Obama has scrubbed his website without explaining why he did so, that's weak...where did I say Obama is perfect?

I think it's interesting though that you appear to think the McCain website scrubbing was perfectly legitimate and understandable, and don't criticize it at all, yet for some reason you've been breathlessly scouring the internets for instances of Obama doing so... I suppose there's no chance of a reasonable explanation for any of those though, right?

Nice consistency...

As for McCain's life expectancy, he can only be killed by taking his head off with a sword when there can be only one. Otherwise he's immortal. He survived the Forrestal fire, being shot down, tortured in Vietnam, Cancer and hasn't succumbed to suicide from dealing with congress.

"Hacienda, What happens when McCain resigns for "health reasons""

"McCains MOTHER is going strong at '92. I see no reason why McCain will have failing health.

McCain survived 5 plus years of torture as a POW. He can manage 4 years as POTUS.

Ibama on the other hand cries to the Mayo Clinic because he has a boo boo on his hip.

Ibama is the fragile one. Not McCain"

Well you got me on one. FEEL BETTER NOW??? I was thinking of my grandmother who is 92.

How could you vote for someone who thinks Pakistan borders Iraq? My 3 yr old daughter ain't that dumb!!

lol, David... I saw that too... 72 year old man with 92 year old grandma... that's gotta be some kind of record!

Cindy is a fraud as well!! Why was her cook-book deleted from Johnny's web page?

Keith, Hillary can unseat either Joe Lieberman or Mitt Romney in 2012. Probably with 350+ electoral votes. If McCain resigns, she will have any of McCain's potential veeps on a silver platter. So it will only be a four year thing. But both of those people have more executive leadership experience than Obama.

McCain '08! Clinton '12!

McCain is 72 and his grandmother is 92? How old is his mamma?

Keith, once again I exposed you as a liar. Cindy McCain never made that claim. The "retelling" your article refers to also does not say Cindy retold the story. It says it was retold by media, not by Cindy (you did read your article right?).
Why did they not change it before, probably because neither Cindy nor John nor anyone close to them reads their bios online.
As I noted Obama had that Iraq was involved in a civil war on his website long after any sane person could come close to making that claim. Why was it not changed to match the facts (the change came only last month)?
Perhaps campaigns don't pay attention to their websites, or are you now going to rail against obama for what you should term (going by your own standards) as lying?

"Hacienda, What happens when McCain resigns for "health reasons""

McCains grandmother is going strong at '92. I see no reason why McCain will have failing health.

McCain survived 5 plus years of torture as a POW. He can manage 4 years as POTUS.

Ibama on the other hand cries to the Mayo Clinic because he has a boo boo on his hip.

Ibama is the fragile one. Not McCain

Roxanne: Hillary lost because the media was stacked against her, because the narrative very early on became "Florida and Michigan don't count" (though suddenly, they did once Obama had a lead in delegates). Most important, and most sadly, she lost because it became "cool" to be for Obama -- after all, who doesn't want to believe that "we are the change that will change the world"? But when you ask people what this "change" actually entails, they don't know.

Sadly, people opted for a cool brand over seasoned executive leadership style. Hopefully, they won't make the same mistake in November.

McCain '08! Clinton '12!

USVet

Keep hope alive cripple! PUMA I read that has only raised 50,000 dollars! That's chump change to Obama and McCain is the Chump!

BTW, I thought it was weak when Obama removed criticism of the surge from his website... anything else?

I guess that means "There is no justification"?

roxanne.

Bill Clinton was centrist......

Hacienda,

What happens when McCain resigns for "health reasons" with a year or two to go in his term and a Mitt Romney or Lieberman run in 2012 as an incumbent?

And you're telling me you trust Hillary Clinton to be president but you don't trust who she's endorsing? That's convoluted logic... she's qualified to be president but not qualified to CHOOSE a candidate other than herself?

You should have taken your candidate's eloquent concession speech to heart... as it is, you're disrespecting and disregarding everything she's ever stood for...

That's just insane... sorry...

"Had we not Invaded Iraq in the 1st place, would we be talking about a BTW... why did we invade Iraq? Before the invasion can ANYONE name an Iraqi who ever killed an American?"
Posted by: David | Aug 23, 2008 2:48:32 AM

That was a Democratic talking point for the '04 election. Guess what? THE DEMS LOST THAT ONE.

So feel free to take up losing talking points.

AS much as you want to spin, exaggerate, fabricate, distort, import, twist change the facts:

McCain has never by even the opposition been called a LIAR, proven to be a liar, etc.

anyone with a normal brain can assume that they do have to defer to their staff and employees:

The McCAin lives are complex, demanding, often times he being a Senator, she running her businesses, foundations, trusts and possibly because their priorities are their vast charitable giving and foundations and trusts many which are managed by their employees it is reasonable to assume that they may not have trite information which changes daily to speak on without verifying it: etc.

HOWEVER the illiterate are so consumed with irrelevant trite soundbites looking for that "SCANDAL" thinking that the McCains going back to the Keating 5 and Cindy's medical challenges will kill the deal for voters:

Everyone over the age of 28 has heard it all about the McCains for 10 years or more:
OPPOSITION reseach against the McCains has been perpetual since he has become a Senator:

Hacienda76

And still she lost! Why do you suppose that was?

Had we not Invaded Iraq in the 1st place, would we be talking about a surge? BTW... why did we invade Iraq? Before the invasion can ANYONE name an Iraqi who ever killed an American?

Zaggs,

You just proved my point... Thanks...

version "A" clearly states that "Mother Theresa convinced Cindy", etc... and the version that exists now removed all reference to Mother Theresa "convincing" her...

First of all, I never claimed that there was a direct quote of her saying she had met Mother Theresa there, although according to the Monitor, it is a claim she has made or insinuated more than once...

Second of all, thanks for proving that the McCain website was hastily changed as soon as the Monitor story emerged...

Why do you think they changed it, and why didn't they change it before?

Keith, I consider obama's naivete and inexperience far too risky in this dangerous world. Whereas allowing Obama in the White House would be like letting the kids run the classroom, McCain will be a very competent adolescent babysitter--until we can get some real adult supervision with Hillary Clinton in 2012.

TWO ULTRA LIBERALS:OBAMA/BIDEN....

I WONDER IF THE DEMOCRATS WILL
EVER LEARN..........
NO LIBERAL EVER WON THE WHITE HOUSE......

Posted by: ROBERT

Ever heard of Bill Clinton?

Beautiful whoppers from Obama:

· Last May, he claimed that Kansas tornadoes killed a whopping 10,000 people: "In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed." The actual death toll: 12.

· Earlier this month in Oregon, he redrew the map of the United States: "Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go."

· Last March, on the anniversary of the Bloody Sunday march in Selma, Alabama, he claimed his parents united as a direct result of the civil rights movement: "There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born." Obama was born in 1961. The Selma march took place in 1965.

McCain '08! Clinton '12!

Hacienda,

The Obamas both gave the maximum amount to Hillary's campaign... and he urged all of his supporters to do the same... what more would you have him do? Vote for McCain?

Seriously... in what possible scenario can you imagine turning this country over to McCain being in line with Hillary Clinton's wishes? And what guarantee do you have that whomever McCain chooses as his running mate won't take over midterm and run in 2012 as an incumbent... you're rolling the dice with everyone else's lives... how can you live with that?

the CINDY MCCAIN story always has been:

AT THE TIME she visited the MOTHER THERESA ORPHANAGE, which she supported, she decided to adopt one of the poor children and find another home for the sibling : which she did:

I do not ever recall anyone suggesting that Cindy or anyone ever said she met with Mother Theresa:

and she may have:

she gave a lot of money to that orphanage, and others like it around the world:

Obama had fund raisers for HRC. He can't help if his supporters didn't want to contribute. If she hadn't ran soooooooooo many negative ads about him, chances are, she wouldn't be that deep in debt.

B2Slime,

How do you know Obama never gave him a dime? Any verifiable source other than your obviously fertile imagination? And I think we all know what it's "fertilized" with...

TWO ULTRA LIBERALS:OBAMA/BIDEN....

I WONDER IF THE DEMOCRATS WILL
EVER LEARN..........
NO LIBERAL EVER WON THE WHITE HOUSE......

Right... they just "happened" to decide to correct the website within about an hour after the Christian Science Monitor story was posted...

lol...

Keep believing in McLiar...

VERY fair for Cindy McCain not to know how many "half siters / siblings" she has:

her mother had at least one child out of wedlock :

EVEN YOU DO NOT KNOW how many possible half brothers and sisters YOU have stashed away somewhere:

THE BOTTOM line is OBAMA visited brother GEORGE when he was writing his book and KNEW about his life of dire poverty and did not send him a dime:

Yahoo!

Fooled ya, suckers!
--- The Phony His Nothingness Zero-bama

Keith-- "What "executive leadership" experience does Hillary Clinton have"

1- Partner at Rose Law Firm, where she managed 20% of the firm, revenues, and client portfolio
2- Leader of Arkansas educational initiative -- pushed ARkansas up 10 notches in the national rankings
3- International leadership on women's rights issues in 3rd world countries
4- A *FULL-TIME* Senator for 6.5 years from NY

Now...what does Obama have?

I can't find the source, Zaggs.. the McCain campaign changed the entry on their website...

I really don't care if you believe me... I saw it... and the fact is, not content with the act of human kindness of adopting a needy child, they felt it necessary to embellish it with a story linking lying about a connection with a literal living saint that never happened...

If you're comfortable with that, fine... I could care less...