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Will Democrats 'Daisy' McCain?
August 17, 2008 1:35 PM
The New York Times today takes a look at Sen. John McCain's instincts when it comes to war.
The notion that McCain, R-Ariz., is bellicose and too eager to take the U.S. to war in Iraq, Iran, Georgia, North Korea, and elsewhere, is one we will likely see Democrats pushing in the coming weeks.
The Times story has a few interesting anecdotes that Democrats will no doubt use in an attack portraying McCain as too eager to attack.
Some show McCain as among those leading the charge to segue from attacking Afghanistan to attacking Iraq. On Jan. 2, 2002, he yelled to sailors and airmen on the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt in the Arabian Sea, "Next up, Baghdad!"
And while McCain later came to criticize the Bush team, he early on told CNN he would have named Donald Rumsfeld to his cabinet and would also have offered Dick Cheney the vice presidency.
Team McCain has been trying to portray Obama as weak on national security, a la Adlai Stevenson, Mike Dukakis and John Kerry. We'll see if the Democrats have any success in making McCain seem too eager to go to war, a la his fellow Arizonan Barry Goldwater, whose alleged desire to start World War III was so notoriously depicted in the famous "Daisy" TV ad.
- jpt
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Actually, this is a good idea.
Posted by: nitpicker | Aug 18, 2008 2:43:50 PM
By all means, the Dems should highlight McCain's tendencies to jump vaingloriously on the war bandwagon. After reading the NYT article, I've come to the conclusion McCain is like Don Quixote chasing windmills, except he's earnestly out to destroy them and anyone nearby. The NYT link brought up that soon after 911, McCain proclaimed Al Qaeda was behind the attacks. Never mind, 15 out of the 19 hijackers were Saudi and it was refuted early on that there was no Iraq connection. Never mind, Wanahabism (sp?), the 14th century based extremist version of Islam, was exported from Saudi Arabia. Now he's waxing bellicose on Russia, like the Bush administration, with a disregard for regional history and the recent chronology of events. I would hope his trigger happy reflexes are examined, and that there's more originality than daisies involved.
Posted by: kat | Aug 18, 2008 1:45:52 AM
Since McCain was featured on Vietnamese radio claiming that he and other Americans committed war crimes, I would have to say that he did do the honorable thing. Most Vietnam vets know that not only what many of them did was wrong, but that the war itself was wrong. Not enough vets are brave enough like McCain to point that out.
Posted by: Mike | Aug 17, 2008 10:04:48 PM
Mr. Coffee - your post is a stretch. McCain was a man of war just like Ike. Even more so, he was a prisoner of war unlike Ike. McCain CAN make decisions based upon his experiences in war and world affairs. Obama CANNOT in that he has has had NO experience in either. Obama's foolish predictions re. Iraq are a good example of Obama's unpreparedness for the presidency.
Posted by: Manitu | Aug 17, 2008 4:16:36 PM
News Flash Manitu. We still have uh uh an economy to run. An economy that your buddies have run to the ground and alienated our allies. Do you live in America. Do you ride a bicycle, do you have a clue of want we are facing at home. We're Borrowing money, we spending money in iraq to rebuild it and our bridges are falling. Wake up.
Posted by: Mille | Aug 17, 2008 8:44:51 PM
Still waiting for the answer. Wheres Joe Lie-berman and Lindsey Graham when you need them??
Posted by: bronxliberal | Aug 17, 2008 8:44:32 PM
I am still waiting for an answer..... can someone out there tell me what was the honorable mission in Iraq?? Why did we lose 4000 brave heroes?? Dont tell me to install Democracy, dont tell me to fight Osama bin Laden, dont tell me to remove saddam Hussien, don't tell me for weapons of mass destruction. So can someone tell me what was the cause?? Freedom for Iraq?? Please dont tell me we spent 1 trillion dollars, scarred a generation of soldiers and reduced our military for democracy and freedom?? They have 100 Billion reasons to smile those Iraq citizens. Thats how much money they have sitting in a bank while you and I pay our taxes so we can build schools and mcdonalds in Iraq. We were lied into this Iraq fiasco day after day. Oil meney will pay for it, we will find nuclear weapons, stockpiles of chemicals. Yet no one has been brought to trial for this. Iraq is the biggest hoax in the history of humankind. I being a student of history know that the great empires of the past destroyed themselves from within by thinking they could force the rest of the world to be like them. These past attempts all failed. Alexander the great, the Muslims, the crusaders and even the Roman Empire. Did you know that the roman empire also had to hire outside contractors because the military was stretched thin?? Study your history folks or else "you are doomed to relive it"
Posted by: bronxliberal | Aug 17, 2008 8:40:00 PM
Senator John McCain should be recognized and applauded for his service to our country.This does not automatically give him carte blanche for the Presidency. His bloodthirst for war is not commendable nor healthy for our country, the United States of America. I feel Senator Obama deserves a chance to make a difference. His youth and energy should serve our country well. Senator McCain should retire from politics. His ideology is too reminiscent of our current administration and CHANGE is needed. War is not the answer Senator McCain, being a veteran should have taught you that a long time ago
Posted by: bronxliberal | Aug 17, 2008 8:26:06 PM
A bit harsh, but true.
I would really like everyone to stop knocking Mc Cain's service or trivializing it. RESPECT PEOPLE.
This does not automatically make him fit for President. Intelligence over Brawn if you please.
Posted by: Mille | Aug 17, 2008 8:36:44 PM
Senator John McCain should be recognized and applauded for his service to our country.This does not automatically give him carte blanche for the Presidency. His bloodthirst for war is not commendable nor healthy for our country, the United States of America. I feel Senator Obama deserves a chance to make a difference. His youth and energy should serve our country well. Senator McCain should retire from politics. His ideology is too reminiscent of our current administration and CHANGE is needed. War is not the answer Senator McCain, being a veteran should have taught you that a long time ago.
Posted by: bronxliberal | Aug 17, 2008 8:26:06 PM
-Obama is more thoughtful and will prevent wars that don't have to be fought.-
Right, just like with his "thoughtfulness" he has single handedly reduce violence in this district.
The best thing about the NYT rag is ease with which one can discard the A and Metro sections and keep the rest.
Posted by: hype bites | Aug 17, 2008 8:21:09 PM
Obama needs to study the Principal of the Seven Ps. Prior proper planning prevents ___ poor performance.
Posted by: Jimbo | Aug 17, 2008 7:51:40 PM
Willem
Really? When was he last time our homeland attacked by the terrorists? WE being in Iraq has caused the terrorists to put VIRTUALLY ALMOST ALL THEIR MEN AND RESOURCES ...... IN IRAQ, which meant that they were not over here doing damage. We got rid of some very bad people, made Iraq into a democracy and protected our butts over here - AND YOU CALL THAT POLICY A DISASTER? Now we are in a position to contain Iran, if they decide to get cute with nukes!! We lost over 3,000 people in an hour and half on 911. Our men and women who died in Iraq kept us safe over here. They did their job and we are proud of them and so are their families!!
Posted by: Temagami | Aug 17, 2008 7:14:05 PM
Linda.
Can you be more specific? What country has McCain said he wants to go to war with? Source?
Posted by: Temagami | Aug 17, 2008 6:59:14 PM
Manitu: "McCain CAN make decisions based upon his experiences in war and world affairs."
The question is not if he CAN make decisions, the question is if he can make the RIGHT decisions.
Invading and occupying Iraq has been the singlemost disastrous decision in US history. Bar none. McCain was wrong, despite (or thanks to?) his experience.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | Aug 17, 2008 6:56:50 PM
McWar?
Sure, that's all he want - more war, more war, more war.
(seems with low intellect he does not know anything else).
Posted by: Linda,Fl | Aug 17, 2008 6:06:21 PM
Sue
PROFOUND!!
Posted by: Temagami | Aug 17, 2008 5:59:40 PM
Those that say McCain walked the walk are dumber then dirt. This man cost the Navy, taxpayers, and his first wife plenty by being a "Hot Dogger". The man should not be placed in charge of a box of rocks, much less the USA.
Posted by: Sue | Aug 17, 2008 5:56:23 PM
McCain has flip flopped on all the stands he took that he used to claim he was a maverick so I wish he would quit claiming he is still a maverick. He's now a pandering old fool.
He was right when he said it was irresponsible to give tax cuts to the rich during a time of war, that we unfairly put the burden of war on a small part of our society. Now he has sucked up to tax cuts for the rich are great.
He was right when he said it was irresponsible to drill off the gulf coasts risking further pollution, that it was time to drive towards alternative energy sources. Now he has flipflopped for his oil industry donors.
He's always been seedy and disreputable, he was involved in the Keating 5 Savings & Loan taxpayer bailout. He's been living it up on his trophy wife's income, he hangs around with the same elite base that supported Bush.
Posted by: citizen voter | Aug 17, 2008 5:12:55 PM
People who compare McCain to Eisenhower and Grant miss a very important distinction: both of those presidents had been in positions of command. In the military, McCain was merely a fighter pilot, in charge of only his own aircraft. He was never responsible for making strategic decisions.
People who say the war in Iraq is over are ignoring the daily deaths of Iraqi citizens caused by terrorist attack.
Posted by: Ellamenta | Aug 17, 2008 5:12:12 PM
"Cleary it is you who are politically misinformad. The times back Hillary Clinton!"
Posted by: roxanne | Aug 17, 2008 3:43:15 PM
_________________
>>but even when they SAID they were backing Hillary, their columnists and editors were all pro-BO.
Go figure!
Posted by: Tres Curious | Aug 17, 2008 4:39:27 PM
Mr. Coffee - your post is a stretch. McCain was a man of war just like Ike. Even more so, he was a prisoner of war unlike Ike. McCain CAN make decisions based upon his experiences in war and world affairs. Obama CANNOT in that he has has had NO experience in either. Obama's foolish predictions re. Iraq are a good example of Obama's unpreparedness for the presidency.
Posted by: Manitu | Aug 17, 2008 4:16:36 PM
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