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In this comment LOUIS writes the following words

"again, the story of infidelity of a democrat trumps the story of treason of a Republican. President Bush and VP Cheney should be charged with treasonous acts against the United States. There is no question of the evidence against them and no excuse for their actions beyond hubris".

Please realize that any European Parlementary system could have easily gotten rid of the law breaking leaders.

again, the story of infidelity of a democrat trumps the story of treason of a Republican. President Bush and VP Cheney should be charged with treasonous acts against the United States. There is no question of the evidence against them and no excuse for their actions beyond hubris.

Who is this gal Karma and how does she manage to keep comin' round? Maybe she needs some investigative reporting??

John 8:32

Wow... this is a reminder to never judge others. It makes you wonder how or if his affair played into his throwing his support behind Obama. I feel sad for all of his supporters. It must be difficult. This is a good reason not to idolize presidential candidates. They are after all human beings.

A lot of sympathy for Ms Edwards but remember she married this sleazeball and he didn't turn into a sleazeball just this week.

Jake, let's get off this topic...Edwards is a narcissist and a has-been. Let's worry about why BHO has all kinds of foreign donations, such as the two brothers from Gaza who gave him almost 30 K and lots of others as noted on this

Some real news, please.

There is no comparison between
what Clinton did and Edwards
did. The quote correctly
describes the disgrace Clinton
brought to the nation's highest
office.

Edwards showed he's a wimp
when cornered by a trash mag's
reporters. Instead of just
brushing them aside he started
blabbing away without discretion.

I think this President has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen."

-- John Edwards on Bill Clinton, February 1999.

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What goes around comes around.

One by one they are falling. I don't even need to name them, just take a look back at all of those self righteous backstabbing individuals that have tried to discredit the Clintons at one point or ther other, especially those that recently insulted and turned their backs on Hillary, one by one they are falling, whether by disgrace or death, do he research. God don't like Ugly and Karma is truly a *****.

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All well, maybe true. Still doesn't erase the fact that Bill Clinton was a humiliation, not only to his country but to his wife and daughter.

Makes me throw up when he admitted that he cried when Chelsea read the Starr Report. Shoulda thought of that Bill, you just weren't some working stiff on K Street taking advantage of an intern from GW...

Sorry, no passes for Bill Clinton on this one.

"What's the difference between the way the Americans and the French regard extramarital affairs?"
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One supposes they feel somewhat similarly about using the badger game to oversee, then disable -- not to mention milking for hundreds of thousands, at least, dollars -- the campaign of the only "Democratic" candidate worthy of the name.

What's the difference between the way the Americans and the French regard extramarital affairs? The Americans worry if their politicians are having an extramarital affair, while the French worry if their politicians are NOT. But despite these differing perspectives, it still behooves a candidate like Sen. Edwards to be a little more circumspect in passing judgment and expressing moral outrage, lest he be hoist with his own petard. Oops--it seems he has been!

Kim: I couldn't have said it better myself! That was the first thing I said when I heard John Edwards admitted to the affair. I said, "Now I want to see Bob Casey from PA, Chris Dodd, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, etc, etc, go down from some scandal or karma as you stated. They were a bunch of backstabbers and if you live by the sword than you shall die by the sword. It is wonderful seeing justice served to these backstabbing creeps! And, I am thrilled to hear that they convinced Bill Clinton to give the remarks at the convention before Obama announces his vice-president selection. It means only one thing. They are offering something big up to the Clintons because they have found out that Obama didn't keep pulling ahead by leaps and bounds in the polls since his nomination and they are worried about getting him elected. Isn't that poetic justice? He sexually bashed Hillary the entire campaign AND NOW HE NEEDS A GIRL TO HELP HIM GET ELECTED! lolololol I love it! He is such a pompous, elitist, superego sexist pig and I hope that he still loses to McCain. The Dems need to be taught a hard lesson so they cut the you know what!

One by one they are falling. I don't even need to name them, just take a look back at all of those self righteous backstabbing individuals that have tried to discredit the Clintons at one point or ther other, especially those that recently insulted and turned their backs on Hillary, one by one they are falling, whether by disgrace or death, do he research. God don't like Ugly and Karma is truly a *****.

The real issue for serious
people is the invasion of
private space by rogue,
crude tabloids not the
private recreational
activities of public figures.

Why did the National Enquirer break this story? The mainstream media is pathetic.

As far as people saying this should be private. Sorry, but no. MANY people vote for others based on character, and not policy. This story should have broken during the primaries. And now that he's a potential VP or cabinet pick, we needed to know this.

If it were a minor indiscretion, a one time thing, so be it. We all make mistakes and we should all forgive and move on. But when your wife is in the hospital with cancer and you cheat, then you resume that affair after you find out she has another, interminable form of cancer - you crossed the line from a mistake to being downright despicable.

This man's political future is over, and for good reason.

Also, we should find out where the funds came from that he used to set up his mistress.

I think the riffraff reporters
and cameramen from trash tabloids
like the NE should be permanently
restrained by law from being
anywhere within a mile of their quarries.

I can not vote for someone who had committed adultery, whether it is Clinton or McCain. What I find as hypocrisy are the religious right voting for McCain. When it was a Democrat, who commits adultery they say they can't vote for someone who commits adultery, but all of a sudden they change their tune and decide McCain is ok. Why don't they stick with their moral principals now?

How did the National Enquiror's reporter get those photo's from inside a closed hotel room? Was it done by using a pin hole camera inserted from a hole drilled in the wall from a joining room? If so then they should be sued for invasion of privacy, extortion and any other applicable charges.

Please tell me how the Nat Enquiror reporter got photos from inside a closed hotel room??? Did they breeak the law using a pin hole camera stuck thru a hole they drilled in the next room??? If so I think they needed to be prosecuted for invasion of privacy.

The difference between Clinton
and Edwards is that Clinton did
it on the job while at work in
the White House with a barley
legal intern.

This is no more our business than was Clinton's affair. The problem starts when we decide to publicly cast judgment. (As demonstrated by Edward's quote condemning Clinton.) It is none of our business. Move on, nothing to see here. If we keep our own house in order we'll be busy enough.

Len,

For one, there's a lot less of a percentage of female politicians. Male politicians, as handsome Edwards, have a following of 'groupies' as does Obama. These male politicians are a challenge to obtain. Somehow I can't visualize male groupies to a female politician. Women are inately nurturers and monogamous. Men have this primal instinct to go forth and populate the earth. Interesting question.

The Constitution does not
say that being oversexed
ia a disqualification to
be POTUS.

"It takes two, Belle."
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Not when one of them is drugged, it doesn't.

"Mid-line Groove Productions"
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One would even venture to guess that EXCEPT under blackmail conditions, Edwards wouldn't have permitted such a salacious nomme-de-payout for the campaign ... groupie, or whatever she was.

This whole story REEKS of "well, THAT ain't what happened".

@saysitso: Or there is a difference in the age at which such temptations become irresistable and another age when they are willing to use it for political gain.

Look at Lewinsky. She was outed by an older female not a man. Values shift with opportunities given a person with shifting values. Perhaps for ambitious women, the time to cheat is when the goods are worth something to the nest, and the time to be faithful is when the nest is paramount.

Sovereignty and territory: women treat men like houses. Men treat women like kitchen appliances.

Your turn.

Sure McCain's adulterous affair with Cindy happened decades ago, but why aren't we also focusing on him if he dares to talk about "morality". No wonder he had nothing to say since it will bring up his own shameful act of dumping his wife and carrying on the liaison with Cindy! Was John thinking of his wife and kids then? Isn't John our friend just as hypocritical??

@belle:

ha! "I've got a brand new pair of roller skates. You've got a brand new key." Melanie Safka

It takes two, Belle. I've got to get to choir. I'm interested in seeing if there can even be a discussion of those questions. The panelists copped out fast when Jake asked. That means there is definitely a political dimension to them.

Len,

Women are the stronger sex, i.e. Elizabeth Edwards, Hillary Clinton. Standing by their men takes strong women. Strong to withstand the public scrutiny, judgement and pity. Elizabeth and Hillary could do it on their own, stand on their own two feet, they're able to financially and because of their intelligence and education. They 'chose' not to. They take the harder path. I highly respect them both.

"The latter sounds more plausible."
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The One couldn't personally cop to prior knowledge about Hunter/Druck, obviously. The UNlikeliest thing is that a person like Hunter -- sociologically speaking -- would just happen to show up on Park Ave to seduce Edwards.

NY Post:
"Hunter - who had no prior video or production experience - incorporated her company, Midline Groove Productions, just five days before the committee cut her first check."

I liked the question in the Roundtable this morning. Why does this kind of scandal never erupt for female politicians? None of the panelists answered.

That's curious. Are women better at hiding it? Is it never investigated on considered off-limits? Does it never happen? Do men seldom out their mistresses and women politicians get the benefit of that reticence whereas women often go after the man when the affair is over?

Ego and narcissism will eventually destroy "The One".

Obama already thinks his actions have no consequences.

Belle Star,

This was my statement: "Obama's campaign has known about Edward's indiscretion, not sure of the timing of when, but they did." Most mainstream media knew of it last year but kept it quiet, guess Obama campaign just found out as we all did?? Or maybe they knew last year, asked for Edward's endorsement, got it while the public was not in the know. The latter sounds more plausible.

A lot of Clinton supporters cannot comprehend how this is different than the Clinton experience. Many people forget creepy Bill was in law suit centered around him exposing himself to an unwilling participant and he lied under oath. The difference is absuing women and lying under oath.

That quote fits Clinton, Edwards, McCain, Gingrich, but most of all Bush.

"Wish the mainstream media would pay attention to Larry Sinclair/Donald Young and do some digging."
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Their long-standing reticence may well be about avoiding that sudden-death-at-50 thing that infected Bernie Mac upon his becoming an embarrasment to The CHANGEling.

Can it POSSIBLY be a coincidence that the "Democrats", who previously wouldn't shut up about "gay" this and that, have now struck the word from the platform?

"Obama's campaign has known about Edward's indiscretion"
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Who sent Ms. Druck to seduce Edwards, ANYway -- the Obama campaign? That's not a bad assumption.

The problem here is not Edwards cheating, but that he yells, screams, preaches, demanding everyone to be moral.

The problem here is not that Obama is a VIP notable member of Trinity Church, but that he yells, screams, preaches, demanding everyone to be moral.

Obama's campaign has known about Edward's indiscretion, not sure of the timing of when, but they did. Why did they have Edward's confess on mainstream media on a Friday night at 11:30 p.m. before Obama's being on vacation for a week? Possibly so it'd be all forgotten when he returns and hence he can distance himself from someone who was on his 'shortlist'. Obama is a lawyer, Edward's is a lawyer and both superior to us or they like to think so.

What did Zero0bama say?

Posted by: Jokerous

Why are you trying to drag Obama into this? If we're going to play that game, what does Bill Clinton think!
Why don't you save your anti Obama comments for a story that's about him? You've clearly got a case of Obama envy!

Edwards implication that his wife is a good woman because she has and continues to stand by him is outrageous and demeaning to women who leave their husbands under these circumstances.
At a time when Elizabeth should be fighting cancer, she will also have to wage her own war against public humiliation.

Who cares; he was just a pretty boy and the voters rejected him anyway.

Me,

John Edwards is 'not' u.s. He may be you. He lives a lifestyle I couldn't afford, he feels he's special (which he was quoted saying yesterday). I would never disrespect my spouse in that way, I've been tempted but that was it, 'me' must be a male. I believe that's another reason why Hillary was so popular with women, men feel more 'special' and have that sense of entitlement. Obama's not far behind Edwards, give him time.

He lied about the affair... 10 to 1 says he's lying about the kid. Her FAMILY wants him to take the test, SHE says NO.. SHE"S getting paid to be quiet.

Innuendo? Mistatements? Larry Craig?

While this affair has shown John Edwards to be a narcissistic sleaze and a liar, more poignantly, the initial lack of coverage by the mainstream media, as compared to the vague rumor and innuendo they publish about Republicans, show a stunning propensity for political bias and further decreases trust in the objectivity of journalists. Further, it shows how ardent Democratic supporters exercise a blind double standard for the judgement of personal conduct by their candidates versus Republicans. Far more mild acts by Republicans have brought vitriol from liberals while John Edwards selfish cruelty and lies are chalked up to 'we'll all powerful men do it" , "it's a private matter", oh! What puritans Americans are". All these lame retorts devalue and debase trust in Democrats to hold there leaders responsible for the slippery slope of bad conduct from sexual or downright criminal.

I only John Edwards had remembered to axiom “Judge not lest ye be judged.”

I suspect that everyone running for POTUS (McCain, Obama and Hillary) have had affairs. It's the norm.

Mr. Edwards wanted us to consider him for the presidency. He's been considered for the vice presidency this election season.
While his antics may be private, his lying about it and expecting people to simply forgive and forget and not perhaps question his honesty as a leader, should be considered public.

Edwards is such a putz! When he ran for Senator, he was the family values candidate... when he was the VP nom, he swung hard left... then as a Pres candidate he became the champion of the poor. How faithless and shallow can one be?! At this point, if he were to say the he were not the second shooter on the grassy knoll in Dallas, I don't think I'd believe him!

God bless Elizabeth and family - and John Edwards needs to be publically flogged (and not just metaphorically)!

What did Zero0bama say?

You don't say anything about it.
That's adult and admirable.

What Edwards does or does not do is his business, not ours. How Elizabeth chooses to handle this mountain is up to her - not us.
In other words they are private citizens and we need to butt out!

The lady is classy. She never
said anything about it.

He's dense. There was no reason
to talk to the creeps from the
National Enquirer. He should have
just ignored the maggots from that
tabloid.

John Edwards is NOT us, he is not like I am. He may be like you, but I do not sleep around and I do not go make a fortune out of bilking uncounted doctors and hospitals on bogus claims which which his victims would rather settle than engage in prolonged, costlier legal fights. He is part of that 99% of lawyers who make the other 1% look bad.

One should say with the Edwards case that Elizabeth Edwards is a rock and has never wavered. She did not accuse any group real or imagined for their problems. Elizabeth Edwards is dying of cancer and still has the compassion to move forward and help others. She has a lot of class. I hope the best for her.

egret57

Obama is a lawyer. And you know what they say about the modern day lawyers.

Bush will go down in history as a liberator of the Iraq people. Liberals can spend their time and money trying to change that but they cannot.

Obama may be next. I have always felt every time Obama opens his mouth, he is as fake as John Edwards. They have fooled so many just as they have fooled themselves.

Everybody is allowed to make mistakes. He who has not sinned cast the first stone. Why didn't Edwards remember this?

Me is We and is exactly on spot.

Edwards is a lawyer. Lawyers always advise their clients to say nothing. And yet he spills his guts to the press and the more he says, the worse his situation gets. Maybe he needs a good lawyer.

John Edwards is us.

Its a shame that the hypocrisy that is john edwards has been brought to light. John sure wasnt thinking about his wife or precious children when he indulged in an affiar. He railed on Bill and most of the democratic party acted like it was some faul of Hillarys for bills affair, so I say while Ifeel sorry for elizabeth edwards amd her kids Karma does come around.