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Attacking Obama's Missouri ‘Truth Squad’
September 29, 2008 11:12 AM
Republicans -- led by the Governor of Missouri and the Republican National Committee -- are alleging that there is something untoward about the "Truth Squad" the Obama campaign has set up in the "Show Me" State. The problem, these Republicans say, is that these "Truth Squad" members are prosecutors and sheriffs with law enforcement powers, thus creating an atmosphere where Missourians might be afraid of being prosecuted for criticizing Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.
There is no evidence, however, that these prosecutors are threatening to use their prosecutorial powers in such a way.
And despite GOP complaints that the mere presence of prosecutors on the "Truth Squad" could intimidate Obama's critics, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and his running mate Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin have used prosecutors on their "Truth Squads" too, prompting no complaints from the GOP at the time.
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The Missouri Truth Squad, an Obama campaign press release stated last week, would “respond quickly, forcefully, and aggressively when John McCain or his allies launch inaccurate claims or character attacks about Barack Obama, or when they distort Barack Obama’s record or plans.”
So what's the problem?
Many of the Obama Missouri Truth Squad members have law enforcement powers, such as St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, and Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer.
A local TV story took those facts and then stated that, "Senator Barack Obama's presidential campaign is asking Missouri law enforcement to target anyone who lies or runs a misleading television ad during the presidential campaign," which doesn't seem a fair representation of the formation of the "Truth Squad."
Republicans immediately began painting this as a situation where the Obama campaign is using its law enforcement friends to threaten to lock people up if they say something negative about Obama.
Gov. Matt Blunt, on official state stationery, said, “What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment."
None of the prosecutors or sheriffs on the "Truth Squad" have said they'd use their law enforcement powers as part of their task as "Truth Squad" members.
But Blunt said that wasn't the point.
"The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election," Blunt said. "Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society.”
St. Louis County prosecutor Bob McCulloch called the notion that he was going to use his official powers to prosecute people who lie about Obama "nonsense."
"I don't know what charge anybody could be talking about there is no such thing; libel is a civil matter entirely," McCulloch said. "What I said was if it is a lie I'll call somebody on it and say that's a lie; tell us the truth. That gets morphed by those with these very sinister motives," the prosecutor said. He added, "It's morphed into 'they are trying to intimidate people into not talking.'"
St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce added in a statement: "As a citizen, I believe that elections should be about issues. I also have enormous respect for our First Amendment and freedom of speech. My sole purpose in participating in this initiative is about getting truthful information to the voters. This has never been or never will be about prosecuting people. Clearly there are those who are attempting to twist the purpose of this initiative for their own benefit. This attack is a great example of how the truth is distorted in campaigns and what we’re trying to stand up against."
But the deputy chairman of the Republican National Committee, Frank Donatelli, told the News-Leader, that even though the Democratic prosecutors “haven’t specifically said” they would use their powers to fight for Obama, but “I don’t think you have to use the power. I think if you just call out somebody and you have the power, you’ve made your point. It’s not that you have to prosecute a guy, but people think you might.”
That's why prosecutors don’t typically become members of campaign truth squads, Donatelli said, because the prosecutor's presence on the truth squad “has a chilling affect on people’s rights of free speech.”
This story broke last week and has been building since.
Largely unreported is the dial-back from reporter John Mills, whose story seemed to imply exactly what the GOP is charging -- that Obama has enlisted a squad of prosecutors to go after anyone who criticizes the Democratic presidential candidate -- but has since said that "in the retelling of the story, it got out of control."
“If they think a group has put out a misleading ad, they’re basically going to call a press conference and say the ad is misleading," Mills told the News-Leader yesterday. "I’m sure the Republicans would do the same thing."
Of the concern that prosecutors should not be on truth squads -- which may seem a legitimate criticism -- it could be observed that McCain's South Carolina primary "Truth Squad" included Attorney General Henry McMaster and Seventh Circuit Solicitor Trey Gowdy, a prosecutor.
The recently created "Palin Truth Squad" includes District Attorney of Dona Ana County (NM) Susana Martinez.
- jpt
September 29, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (286)
are you...really, really serious. No...I mean REALLY?
I do have, thankfully the luxury of a win to decidely end this debate and separate myself from it. Come on though people. Honesty, and the demand for such, should not be and is not the crush to the 1st amendment you speak of.
Maybe it's just me, but it seemed clearly stated that prosecution was NOT the goal (or an option here), but rather a forced exposure to the actual facts behind a statement. I almost said we shoudn't, but thats bs...there IS NOTHING wrong with that. If this is what it takes to get honesty out of the otherwise weaselish, negative, lying ass politicians, I personally welcome it. Bring truth, bring honesty my friends, and for God's sake bring change...our country, our people and our world need it.
Posted by: jimminy cricket | Nov 5, 2008 4:09:07 AM
the difference is that McCain isn't attacking Joe The Plumbers for questioning him, nor cutting off TV stations for asking probing questions of
his VP. You add all those things together (as Obama has done) and you get censorship. That is not what this country is about.
Posted by: Incognito | Oct 30, 2008 1:13:26 AM
This is a hoot......What's wrong with an "authority figure" deciding what is true or not??? LOL
In Ohio, they didn't want "authority figures" near the polls, because it would scare away people, ethic groups, minorites, that have a fear of "authority figures."
LOL......Having your cake and eating it too!
Posted by: lu | Oct 29, 2008 8:45:26 AM
If this were the "McCain Truth squad" congress would already be having an official investigation. But as always, the Democrats get a big PASS when caught doing something shady. Same with the ACORN scandal. If Republicans ever sunk low enough to be filling out thousands of fake voter registrations, there would be senate investigations, and people would be going to jail.
Posted by: Bob | Oct 21, 2008 2:31:09 PM
So, if B.H. Obama is elected president and does NOT reduce taxes for anyone making $250,000 per year or less then we can arrest and prosecute the "truth squad" for lying?
Let's face it, their version of the "truth" as stated in the on-air interview was WRONG! Obama has no plans to reduce taxes on anyone making $250,000 year. That figure is for a COUPLE. For an individual it is $125,000. So please Mr. Sheriff, do your duty and arrest those two prosecutors for lying!
Posted by: URDreaming | Oct 19, 2008 12:29:10 AM
edav38
Did you miss the part of the article that said McCain/Palin have "Truth Squads" that include law enforcement people too?
It's right near the top.
So it's Only OK if you are Republican?
No surprise
Posted by: GH | Oct 18, 2008 1:43:15 PM
The stupidity about this election has reached epidemic proportions. Do you really think that in the modern world we live in a small group of prosecutors and sheriffs could strong-arm voters? Of coarse not! There are stops in place. Obama knows that. Why are all criticisms of Obama absurd? Can the Republican Party really not anything worth discussion on him? I am a registered republican who will be voting for Obama. I think John McCain is a life-long politician who has been caught with his pants down during an economic crisis created by typical republican “trickle down” economics gone wrong. He has to do whatever he can to distract voters from that. This is one of those tactics, feeding on peoples fear with definite racial undertones. I don’t know if Obama is the man for the job, but my gut tells me he is a better man than McCain
Posted by: Donan | Oct 14, 2008 11:45:22 AM
If you people cannot SEE that these "Truth Squads" are a Violation of the US Constitution, then you need to move to China or Russia where FREEDOM OF SPEECH is curtailed.
There is NOTHING in the US CONSTITUTION that satates, "Freedom of Speech, as long as you follow a party line or are telling the truth that the candidate wants you to say", is PLAIN AND SIMPLY states "The Freedom of Speech SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!
These people in the "Truth Squads" are BREAKING THE LAW of the US CONSTITUTION
If you do not like the US CONSTITUTION, then change it, or shut your traps.
Posted by: edav38 | Oct 12, 2008 1:05:42 AM
Ok look, if they are "targeting" this person for violating the law and what they said was a lie and against this code of ethics or whatever it was then maybe you shouldn't be saying it in the first place.
Posted by: Tyler | Oct 5, 2008 11:21:35 PM
It's ABC. ABC is owned by Disney. And Disney is obviously in bed with the Obama campaign.
Posted by: John D. | Oct 4, 2008 2:09:10 PM
So...I'm to believe that those involved in a "Truth Squad" have the corner on truth, and clearly see the right answers to all debate that running for the office of President of the United States generates? Am I perceived as mindless enough that I would want a man in the Oval Office who would allow such activities to be associated with his campaign? Wake up citizens of America...for you will certainly have to endure the rule of the one you vote into office. Shame on you, candidate Obama, for your inexperienced lack of understanding of the proper use of power, you who desire to head the Executive branch!
Posted by: Pastor Swope | Oct 1, 2008 11:22:19 PM
Reading some of the comments, most of you seem to overlook the fact that if you tell the truth, the "truth squads" don't have any authority to do anything to you. It seems most of you are outraged that you will not be able to outright lie about Obama without correction from a Democratic organization. Are you having trouble smearing Obama with the truth?
Posted by: anonymous | Oct 1, 2008 5:16:06 PM
Are you seriously defending this?
STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR OBAMA!!!
Please. People like you will destroy our country.
Palin has NEVER used LAW ENFORCEMENT.
Why can't you see the difference???!!!
Posted by: Janny | Oct 1, 2008 7:26:07 AM
Jake, all stripes of extremists need to have a little light shined on them, both left and right. When KMOV did a re-edit of their item to exclude the intial report that the Obama campaign had asked law enforcement to "target" anyone making false statements, etc. and violating Missouri ethics laws....the media took another black eye. There is no need to defend that or resist the actual truth of the report. We have to get back to a place where the truth rules. And, please, let us not have any conversations abut "whose truth" and a relativistic "...but look what they did". The objective truth that journalism schools used to teach and that sustained this democracy for 200+ years before we fell off this cliff of partisanship and whatever it takes to win. I believe both sides are to be held to the same high standard and without the supposed fourth branch of government taking sides to the exclusion of truth.
Posted by: Enthused | Sep 30, 2008 10:47:05 PM
This article is wrong. The video report of this truth squad did say that law enforcement, including prosecutors, would "target" people who may violate Missouri ethics laws who are misleading or not telling the truth about Obama. If that does not indicate that they will prosecute someone under the Missori ethics laws I don't know what does. The article leaves out the important facts that mention "target" and "Missouri ethics laws." Watch the video for yourself.
Posted by: CarlH | Sep 30, 2008 4:39:57 PM
Here’s another article, “Silencing Critics Using the Barack Obama Method” (from Ann Woolner of Bloomberg), on Obama’s attempts to control the public debate. And from the article it’s apparent that this woman is clearly an Obama supporter. She thinks charges made against have been baseless. “But the proper response in a democratic society isn't to scream at those who give an author a podium, to call the man names or jam a radio station's phone lines with angry callers.”
Posted by: Erika | Sep 30, 2008 1:48:29 PM
The market lost more than a trillion dollars yesterday - more than the proposed bailout figure. And you fools are arguing about ACORN? Get some perspective.
Posted by: mara | Sep 30, 2008 12:44:38 PM
Obama flat out lied to the American people during the debate. He DID INDEED vote FOUR times to raise taxes on people making 42G per year! It is a record of FACT..go look it up. This guy will do or say ANYTHING to get elected.
Posted by: Obama is a fraud | Sep 30, 2008 10:43:09 AM
I too am a democrat voting for McCain. The truth is that Obama scares the hell out of me for many reasons. He makes me feel uncomfortable. I don't like how people are so willing to overlook his past associations. To me he is simply nothing more than a slick talking crook. He says he cares about the poor, but is willing to take donations from people that can barely put food on the table. He reminds me of a minister in a poor church conning people for collections.
Posted by: dem for McCain | Sep 30, 2008 10:39:38 AM
Mack: Anyone that is afraid of Obama has to have something wrong with them. Who cares about the truth squad. Say what you have to say and call it a day. Obama thinks he is the president already giving orders. He is what he is and he can't change that. An underhanded crook that was an attorney for a crook and an associate with the bomber Ayers. The whole country knows that but I can't believe the people of this country would still vote for him. He lies worse than a convict in prison.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 30, 2008 10:39:30 AM
Rick: You are right about the democrats. I am a democrat but voting for McCain/Palin. I believe that McCain is more experienced in the field of foreign policy and has the capabilities to run this country. Obama if elected would become a dictator and I say that because you can tell by the sound of his speeches. Next time take time to screen him when he's talking precisely and it will show.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 30, 2008 10:34:12 AM
The fact that people are actually voting for this clown tells me that something is really wrong here. The guy hangs out with a known terrorist (Ayers), he goes to a 'white hating' church, and now he is employing voter intimidation tactics. WAKE UP PEOPLE! Do you really want this guy running our country?
Posted by: Kim | Sep 30, 2008 10:28:26 AM
Sharon: Are you trying to say that Obama is a saint? He has faked and lied his way to the public since he started campaigning. Why do you think that Bill Clinton is hesitant in supporting him. The Clinton's don't like him. Hillary is camapaigning for Obama because she plans to run again for the senate and she doesn't want to upset the applecart. Obama is so underhanded he makes the crooks like like angel's. And I am one that wouldn't care about the truth squad. I say what I have to say and I mean what I say.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 30, 2008 10:27:37 AM
riley: Obama if elected will also show his dictorial ways because he is half Kenyan and that country is in a dictatorship. He hates when he is critized for wrong statements and I don't believe he won the debate. I think that CNN inflated the polls because they are pro-obama and like the rest of the networks they don't want the polls to show that Obama is losing ground. Obama has been a fake and liar from the beginning and he should stop trying to walk in the shoes of MLK and become himself. His speeches on the platform are from the book of RFK and adding words of his own. His words of hope and change RFK used in his campaign speech. For a Harvard graduate he certainly lacks wisdom.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 30, 2008 10:22:40 AM
Sarah......You say Republicans Attack? What did the demos do to Sarah Palin? They went so way out of the box that it was unbelieveable. So, look at what you say before you say it.
Posted by: Rick | Sep 30, 2008 10:19:47 AM
Blue in Michigan: Are you trying to say that Obama knows exactly what he is talking about or is he trained by his advisors what to say and what not to say. I know definately he is dumb to politics and only knows what is going on when it becomes known. Obama lied in his statement when he said he knew this would happen two years ago. McCain made that statement and Obama decide to use it like he used the speeches of RFK on the platform adding a few of his own words. He is the dumbest of the dumb
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 30, 2008 10:14:56 AM
Denise: You are so right about Obama. He is an underhanded crooked politician that belongs to the Daley machine of Chicago. I know what city hall is all about because I was born and raised in Chicago, still live here and I knew city worker's that didn't show up for work and got paid for there services. Obama was so underhanded he lied about the woman that ran against him for the senate and ruined her career. It was shown on TV months ago. Obama covered up all of Rezko's dirty deals that's why Rezko paid for Obama's house or gave him l/2 of the money to buy it. Rezko also bought the lot next door for him. We never had a candidate run for office of this country with the background of Obama. I don't know where the minds of the people are that vote for him. They certainly be true American's.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 30, 2008 10:09:38 AM
If these people were committed to bi-partisan "truth" I would say go for it....as it stands don't elected officials need to leave political campaigns at the door?
This neverending campaign has kept the taxpayers money tied up in salaries on the Federal level for millions...and now our local officials hop on the bandwagon.
Say no to Obama's fear tactics....say no to an America divided
As long as the media continue their longstanding effort to feed us the Obama's campaign talking points he will continue to rise in the polls.
We should demand that elected officials do their jobs not Obama's bidding.
Posted by: Jackie | Sep 30, 2008 10:07:07 AM
foreclosure: I don't care about Obama's truth squad. I say what I mean and I mean what I say and I don't care on bit is he likes it or not. Whatever is said about Obama is no doubt the truth if it is negative. He was an attorney for a crook named Resko, he has close ties to Ayers and he did attend a racist church for 20 years. How anti-american can you get. Its people like you that would vote for a candidate like Obama that didn't like this country and I believe he still doesn't. He fakes and is a good sincere liar as one commentor stated.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 30, 2008 10:03:11 AM
So Obama has a truth squad much like Hitler had the SS. Squash all opposition is the only mantra. But, Obama is also trying to funnel funds to his old employers ACORN, a leftist organization who have been indicted in over 12 states for voter fraud.
Gee, is this what we have to look forward to if Obama wins? POliticaql hit squads whose only purpose is to serve Obama with no oversight except by Obama himself?
Sounds like a dictatorship.
Posted by: Don | Sep 30, 2008 9:25:01 AM
1. Obama challenges the 2nd Amendment ... The Right To Bear Arms.
2. Obama challenges the 1st Amendment ... The right of Free Speech.
Obama pressures all media who accepts NRA advertising.
3. Obama wants a Civil National Security Force ... with the same budget as the Pentagon.
So, Obama does not want any opposition, so he stops Freedom of Speech.
Then, to make any opposition defenseless, he wants to take away our right to bear arms.
Next, he wants a Civil National Security force to put down any insurrection.
Sounds like the stepping stones to a leftist dictator taking over this country.
Posted by: PAUL REVERE | Sep 30, 2008 9:13:19 AM
The use of title, earned from public office, to add emphasis or state political position, is illegal and violates both the provisions of office and public trust. If a 'Sheriff' or 'Prosecutor' endorses any political candidate or joins that candidate's campaign efforts, they are liable for criminal prosecution, removal from office, and prison.
Posted by: Jim Reinebold, Jr. | Sep 30, 2008 9:09:33 AM
“There is no evidence, however, that these prosecutors are threatening to use their prosecutorial powers in such a way.”
What has been at issue is what is not mentioned in this post - Missouri ethics laws. According to a WorldNetDaily article, “Prosecutors on Obama 'Truth Squad' sound retreat,” they talked to a spokesperson for St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Susan Ryan, and, “When asked if the initial announcement suggested legal ramifications for ‘crossing ethics laws in Missouri,’” she answered that, "Unfortunately it did suggest that, but the 'Truth Squad' has no intention of prosecuting anyone for this."
In a somewhat similar controversy, an entry of Ben Smith’s blog at Politico, “Obama seeks to take down NRA ad,” talks about Obama’s general counsel sending a letter to radio stations in Pa. and Oh. “This advertisement knowingly misleads your viewing audience about Senator Obama's position on the Second Amendment,” the letter says. “For the sake of both FCC licensing requirements and the public interest, your station should refuse to continue to air this advertisement."
Posted by: Erika | Sep 30, 2008 3:43:40 AM
There's a reason Matt Blunt is NOT running for re-election as Missouri Governor. This is just one more example of his idiotic behavior.
Posted by: Tom J | Sep 30, 2008 3:30:35 AM
They said the first casualty of the war is the truth. Unfortunate that applies to John McCain campaign, His surrogates and actually most of the time himself, killed the truth spin by spin!
Posted by: foreclosure | Sep 30, 2008 3:15:38 AM
Don't we all have bigger fish to fry than fearmongering and slander?!
November 4th, can't come fast enough.
Obama/Biden 08
Class and REAL leadership in the White House.
Posted by: Tulani | Sep 30, 2008 1:05:22 AM
I live in southern Illinois across the mississippi river from Missouri. My news channel is out of St. Louis and our news reported that the police and sheriffs were in agreement with Sen. Obama to stop anything negative said about Sen. Obama in the state. We were put in fear on purpose about saying anything about him. Fear tackiest coming from law enforcement against or freedom of speech. What do you call this? I call it communism! I think that this is a small peek into the window of our future if Sen. Obama some how still gets elected. I wish people would just wake up before it is to late. Do not be fooled! I do not want to live in a police state-do you -really?
P.S. google-Sen. Obama and acorn
Posted by: koolmom21 | Sep 30, 2008 12:41:41 AM
For those who want the truth, try listening to today's(Sept.29) Mark Reardon show on KMOX radio. John Mills is a reporter for KMOV(channel 4)both affiliates in St. Louis. Apparently there was a call from someone in California who asked if "these law enforcement people" would be interested in a bumper sticker saying Obama is a Muslim and their answer was yes. When John Mills was told this, he immediately asked the host if HE believed Obama was a Muslim which had NOTHING to do with the bumper sticker story. Mr. Mills never did answer the bumper sticker statement and retreated when the host asked if he thought the "Truth Squad" made up of law enforcement officials crossed the line. So now it's gone from continuous infomercials on the morning television shows-the interjection of personal politics on news shows-to law enforcement "Truth Squads." The reason this is a story is because of WHO these people are. If this isn't a conflict of interest, I don't know what is. As single private citizens they are entitled to express their opinions. As a law enforcement group together it "crosses the line."
Posted by: RL in Illinois | Sep 30, 2008 12:24:45 AM
Where are the "truth squads" for Obama's blatantly false Spanish-language ad telling outright lies in a despicable attempt to race-bait Hispanics?
For that matter, where are the "truth squads" for the farcical sham mainstream media who purport to provide "journalism" during these dire times, but have instead, willingly and collectively, become a full-fledged propaganda machine for the deceitful, treacherous, hypocritical, socialist Democrats?
Where are the throngs of investigators bringing out the truth about Obama's Ayers/Rezko/Wright connections? Or the truth about the Democrats' culpability in this current financial mess? Or the Obama/Democrat connections to Fannie and Freddie?
Barack Obama has a history of covering up his past and silencing his critics.
Taken with his other political positions (when he wasn't voting "present"), one thing becomes clear:
Obama is a totalitarian, and is intolerant of the very concepts of individual freedom, individual responsibility, and individual expression.
Are we clear?
Posted by: Yosemite Fudd | Sep 30, 2008 12:02:39 AM
Why are they targeting prosecutors and law enforcement to be "truth squad" members? Because it will read like they are going to prosecute, or threaten to prosecute, those they deem to be slandering Obama.
And just how do they intend to "respond" to what they call iies? Are they going to call press conferences several times a day? I don't pay them taxes to be dilly-dallying around with political BS. Get to work!
Posted by: Ana Sarca | Sep 29, 2008 10:18:48 PM
Actually Obama has run a higher percentage of attack ads than McCain. Are these officials who are supposed to be serving the public, all of the public not just democrats, going to treat the Obama untruths and McCain untruths in the same manner?
Posted by: Anne Nelson | Sep 29, 2008 10:12:05 PM
"I spoke with Bob McCulloch, Missouri prosecutor, about the truth squad story. I asked for an example of a lie that he would have to set straight. He used the example of the sex education for kindergartners. He believes that Barack Obama supported legislation that would protect kindergartners from inappropriate touching and not a wide spectrum of sex education in that age group. I asked if he read the legislation. He said “no.” " SO THIS IS THE PROSECUTOR WHO IS DECIDING WHAT IS TRUTH????
Posted by: Anne Nelson | Sep 29, 2008 10:08:46 PM
Look, do not be so blind about these Truth Squads and do not be so blind about one Barack Obama. He is what he is, a thug in a suit. Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, Harry Reid, Donna Brazile, Ted Kennedy are all who they are grifters. They are behind the scam of the century which has been perpetrated upon the American people and will now do everything in their power to keep the truth from coming out. The cat is out of the bag. You can live in the light or choose ignorance, but at least be smart enough to choose.
Posted by: Denise (Brooklyn, New York) | Sep 29, 2008 8:07:46 PM
Now we know that not only Obama can lead, but also he had a plan for the future of this great country!
Now McCain can snooze tight. Obama can answer the 03.00 am call any time!
Rebublicans can spin like wash machine all day long! The truth is
Senator McCain past actually impairs him from to be flexible and confront the future with open mind. .Senator Obama foreign policy is moderate but also smart. That helps to keep our friends near, and or foes nearer! The last days of the campaign confirmed that McCain -Plain are the most inadequate people to run this country. If Obama was O’Brian and he was white and not black,
He would not have had any trouble winning the election, Red neck idiots!
The same people who gave George Bush a second term should feel responsible for the mess that is occurring today. They are the same ones who today have doubts about the ability of Obama to be a good choice for President.
Posted by: foreclosure | Sep 29, 2008 5:51:11 PM
Hey blip, you can't understand why people are voting Republican? I couldn't understand people like you who voted Republican in the last two Presidential elections. NOW, I don't understand why people are voting for Obama. You're going from one extreme to the other. Get it straight this time vote for the Moderate, McCain.
Posted by: Art Texas | Sep 29, 2008 5:31:42 PM
LOL, If anyone needs a "Truth Squad" its that MORON McBush. Seems every word out of this stupid little mouth lately is a big fat LIE.
Jiff
Posted by: Justin Binn | Sep 29, 2008 4:57:56 PM
Where'd you go Cultural Amnesia?
You were wrong. You called me out rather personally... accused me of making mistakes I didn't make.
You said I am the kind of person who couldn't admit my mistakes....
But you were mistaken... where did you go so suddenly?
Posted by: blip | Sep 29, 2008 3:56:10 PM
Amensia, discussing a crime rate is the same as per capita. That is what a crime rate describes.
Your pathetic distraction from the fact that Palin was making women pay for their rape kits when the state mandated otherwise has failed.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 29, 2008 3:51:06 PM
If you live in a swing district... your congressman probably voted against the bail out.
They thought they could vote "No" so they could go home and brag about how they "stuck it to Wall Street."
Meanwhile, the down plunges.
Posted by: blip | Sep 29, 2008 3:49:34 PM
"The Queafer of the House squawks, the dow plunges"
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They shut their yaps, it STOPS plunging.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Sep 29, 2008 3:46:33 PM
Obama's Missouri Truth Squad has nothing on the McCain supporters when it comes to unethical behavior.
Posted by: blip | Sep 29, 2008 3:46:24 PM
"Hickery dickery dock
who dat protectin Barack?
he lies just the same its the name of the game
so this possie is clearly a crock"
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Yeah: is poster "blip" really Axelrod writing down for the hoi polloi, or what?
Posted by: Belle Starr | Sep 29, 2008 3:42:42 PM
The Queafer of the House squawks, the dow plunges
Posted by: DiceMan | Sep 29, 2008 3:41:21 PM
What!?!?! I never assumed that you practiced Judaism? Where did I say that?
And I referred very specifically to Alaska's rape rate.
In so few words you manage to get so much wrong. And then you have the nerve to say I am wrong but cannot admit it?!
Look in the mirror.
Posted by: blip | Sep 29, 2008 3:40:21 PM
Hickery dickery dock
who dat protectin Barack?
he lies just the same its the name of the game
so this possie is clearly a crock
Posted by: DiceMan | Sep 29, 2008 3:40:08 PM
"Nows a great time to write your congressman and tell them to sign the freakin' bailout and be done with it."
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Hahaha. The "Democratic" rep in the CA 1, a close associate of Pelosi's AND a Blue Dog who's supported every "public" subsidy of the booze business, is finally a pretty good bet to lose his Congressman-for-life seat ANYway.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Sep 29, 2008 3:38:39 PM
No blip your were wrong and misstated plain and simple. Like Obama you cannot admit that you made a mistake, just like when you were stupid and assumed that just because I am Jewish, I practice Judaism.
Bye blip.
Posted by: Cultural Amnesia | Sep 29, 2008 3:37:02 PM
Ha... Boehner is blaming Pelosi's speech.
Posted by: blip | Sep 29, 2008 3:35:58 PM
But anything to distract from the rape at which women are raped in Alaska... and Palin's unwillingness to stop it.
Posted by: blip | Sep 29, 2008 3:33:52 PM
Referencing the "rate" at which a crime occurs is nearly the same thing as saying per capita.
Read more closely next time.
Posted by: blip | Sep 29, 2008 3:32:34 PM
"Why do people call Pelosi a mobster?"
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Most likely because her father was a mobster in Baltimore?
Pelosi got into national politics as a pro-gay local politician in San Francisco, where she married a bunch of money.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Sep 29, 2008 3:32:09 PM
Blip what the heck are you talking about. the figures I gave you came from US gov. The statement you made should have said PER CAPITA. My numbers were based on the state figures for forcible rape. State by state. California is #1. But if you look per captita it is Alaska.
GEEZE, you are the one who misstated and did not say that your figures were PER CAPITA.
Posted by: Cultural Amnesia | Sep 29, 2008 3:31:33 PM
Nows a great time to write your congressman and tell them to sign the freakin' bailout and be done with it.
Posted by: blip | Sep 29, 2008 3:29:54 PM
"URGENT: Massive $700 billion financial rescue bill voted down in House, triggering selloff on Wall Street — at one point, sending Dow down more than 705 points"
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If the corporate bad-boys want to keep playing fixed "capitalism", guess they'll have to put in PRIVATE capital, instead of putting the public treasury into their deep pocket, along with the bazillions they've already realized.
Now the House is going to stay in session, says teevee. Hahaha. Somebody should ask Pelosi about involuntary "public" subsidies to the wine-dark booze biz in her locale.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Sep 29, 2008 3:27:21 PM
Why do people call Pelosi a mobster? Because she is Italian? There's plenty of things wrong with Pelosi... but being a friend of the Mafia is not one of them.
Posted by: blip | Sep 29, 2008 3:26:15 PM
Yeah... and I was talking about the rape at which women are raped.
If you are a woman in Alaska, your chances of being forcibly, violently raped are higher than any other state in the country.
The rate of crime is the one which matters because it gives individuals a sense of how likely it is that they will be victimized. If you live in a city of a million people and ten of them are raped.... you are still better off than living in a town of 100 people and only one person gets raped.
Why would you try to fiddle with the numbers?
Palin could have helped by cracking down on rape.... but instead she chose to close her eyes to the problem.
There is no good explanation for this.
Posted by: blip | Sep 29, 2008 3:24:05 PM
"Obviously some DEMS did not vote either."
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40% of the Democrats voted AGAINST the bail out. The Democrats' mob "leadership" should resign.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Sep 29, 2008 3:22:30 PM
"Obama is a communist!"
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He's no communist -- he's a corporate fascist pretending to liberals and leftists, through celebrity enthusiasts, that he's a "communist". His MOTHER was a fellow-traveller (Obama didn't CARE for his mother, who abandoned him ... and seems to extend that disdain to women in general, from Alice Palmer ("black") to Geraldine Ferraro, Hillary Clinton, and Sarah Palin ("white").)
Posted by: Belle Starr | Sep 29, 2008 3:20:15 PM
Now Nancy Pelosi is saying it is the republicans fault even though she has the majority and enough votes to pass the bill. Obviously some DEMS did not vote either.
Posted by: Cultural Amnesia | Sep 29, 2008 3:19:29 PM
I cannot believe that people still support Republicans after all that they've done.
I was a steady and reliable Republican until 2003, when I realized that Bush was lying about Iraq.
Since then, my head hangs deeper and deeper in shame with each mistake the GOP makes. I put some of those people in office with my vote.
Until the GOP turns a 180 and starts acting like they talk... I cannot go back to them. Right now, they are just liars. And their supporters are enablers... either promiting the lies actively or turning a blind eye to them.
Posted by: blip | Sep 29, 2008 3:18:10 PM
BLIP I DID POST THE HIGHEST FORCIBLE RAPES
Posted by: Cultural Amnesia | Sep 29, 2008 3:16:13 PM
THANK YOU FOX IS AIRING TAPES OF THE STUPID DEMOCRATS FIGHTING AGAINST REGULATIONS ON FANNIE MAE.
THANK YOU FOX NEWS
Posted by: Cultural Amnesia | Sep 29, 2008 3:15:07 PM
Highest rate of forcible rape is what I said. It's like talking about infant mortality rates, which are measured by the number per thousand births.
Highest rate refers to a relative number as opposed to an absolute number.
Stop fishing for controversies.
You know what I was talking about.
Palin turned a cold shoulder on rape victims and thwarted the efforts of law enforcement in order to save a few dollars.
Posted by: blip | Sep 29, 2008 3:13:54 PM
Obama is a communist!
Dem for McCain
Posted by: Mike | Sep 29, 2008 3:13:51 PM
Now Barney Frank's up, bitching about the Republicans and bleating about Rosh Hoshanah, with nary a mention that nearly half the DEMOCRATS wouldn't vote for the corporate "Democrats"' blabla.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Sep 29, 2008 3:13:10 PM
blip, nice try on spinning it. Get the whole story from a credible source and in context and in chronological order so you can understand it better.
Posted by: USA-No1 | Sep 29, 2008 3:12:51 PM
"Next to Obama, McCain seems to be brash and foolish."
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So YOU say. Some say Obama seems mentally and verbally constipated, and McCain speaks like an actual human being. This is most likely because Obama's reciting lines, and McCain's not.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Sep 29, 2008 3:10:45 PM
I don't care about Acorn. If they are guilty... the attorney general should prosecute them.
I do know that ANY voter registration organization that focuses on minorities is going to be attacked by the right wing. It is a tried and true strategy to suppress voter turnout in cities because they skew Democratic. So, unless I see that Acorn is being convicted of something right now... I am not going to worry too hard about allegations from 10 years ago. It's just not on my radar.
And since I wasn't planning on voting for ACORN, I think the issue is a distraction from this thread... which is on the absurd idea that a political campaign is the same thing as a death squad.
Posted by: blip | Sep 29, 2008 3:09:40 PM