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Just read the Republican Party platform - they are OPPOSED to stem cell research.

The author needs to revisit the fact check desk.

John McCain's campaign website clearly states: "As president, John McCain will strongly support funding for promising research programs, including amniotic fluid and adult stem cell research and other types of scientific study that do not involve the use of human embryos."

NO EMBRYOS. Period. Obama's ad is truthful.

Those in the mainstream media I'm sure believe that the public should be as educated as possible on science matters, most especially when science and politics overlap. That means that their keeping-them-honest "fact checkers" should start educating the public on the fact that there isn't one "stem cell research," but different types. Does Palin oppose "stem cell research" across-the-board, or merely embryonic stem cell research? And the media itself should make sure it doesn't lump all stem cell research together when the differences count. In an interview with McCain not long ago, 60 Minutes referred to him as being different from Republicans for being "for stem cell research."

Roland, re your comment:

According to the latest poll 58% of Clinton supporters now support Obama! Me thinks he doesn't have a chance in hell to win!

I'm confused and don't know which he you are referring to. Just want some clarification.

Go Obama,
At least if he raises taxes on those
over $250,000/yr, maybe we can get some money back from those CEO's like Carli,and the others.

I don't always think that it is a bad thing to change your position on something. McSame deserves credit for the fact that he says that he changed his position because he feels that he is now better educated on the issue.

My problem with McSame is that he changes positions almost daily. Even though he has no chance of winning my vote I commend him on being on the right side of this issue even if it took him awhile to get there.

Also, instead of attacking Palin we should be encouraging her to speak for her self and answer questions from the press. If she is going to be on the McSame ticket then maybe she should try some Strait talk herself!!!

Sarah, absolutely correct. However there is still the issue of all those unused frozen embryos. In the early days of IVF, many more embryos than were needed were created in order to maximize the mother's chances of becoming pregnant. Not everyone who has embryos in storage is comfortable with the idea of donating the extras for adoption. So what to do with all those extra embryos that have already been created? As opposed to discarding them, how about using them for the good of all of humankind?

McCain is not pro-life in that he believes it should continue to be "legal" to murder by abortion innocent unborn children in the womb because they are there as a result of rape or incest. He is, as is Obama, on this subject, a moral idiot.

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There is a huge difference between "stem cell research" and "embryonic stem cell research." Embryonic stem cell research is only one kind of stem cell research, and of course, the most controversial kind (as it should be - it hits on a major bio ethical dilemma). You can support stem cell research (as many pro-lifers do) *without* supporting embryonic stem cell research, and it's important to make that clarification when discussing policies on this issue.

If Biden doesn't support Obama's bridge to nowhere why should I?

"Geez, Palin drew 60,000 in Florida"

Palin drew about 25000 according to non campaign flunkies.

Why do right wingers continually lie about Palin's crowd size?

She gets big crowds so why lie about the actual number of attendees?

Speaking of stem cell research, would Obama use the living embryos dismantled from their mothers' wombs in a botched up late-term abortion...... those wee living beings literally tossed into a trash tray with no succor or assistance while they are still beathing....

Would Obama ecourage the use of the stem cells of these soon-to-be corpses... for research?

I am in favor of stem cell research... and pro choice.... but Obama goes too far.... in too many areas... like this one!

Partial birth abortions....wee bodies still breathing... dying all alone, unheld......

According to the latest poll 58% of Clinton supporters now support Obama! Me thinks he doesn't have a chance in hell to win!

Palin on doing things in DC.

“As the governor of Alaska, I did things like put the state's checkbook online so that everybody could see where the money was being sent,” Palin said.

“We want to do the same thing in D.C. John wants to do the same thing with the Treasury deal. We believe that the American people have the right to know which firms the Treasury is helping and what that selection is based on and how much that help will cost you. It's your money and you do have a right to know where it's going."

It would be admirable if it weren't an example of her cluelessness.

The government's checkbook is up and running online thanks to Senators Coburn & Obama who have expanded their original transparency act (something McCain also cosponsored).

Why would you take Mike Castle's opinion over what John McCain says
he would support?

As McCain said once before, in denouncing the words someone closer to him than Mikc Castle had implied he had said, "----- DOES NOT SPEAK FOR JOHN MCCAIN; "JOHN MCCAIN SPEAKS FOR JOHN MCCAIN"!

Would you credit Obama with some of the silly stuff Joe Biden says ?

Naah!

It would be too much to ask, I guess, for the moderator of this blog, at least, to be undescriminating and non judgemental.

LOL....even the embedded reporters from FoxNews are getting testy about the McCain campaign's refusal to allow Palin to answer questions.

Jake, you say " But where McCain misleads voters is how he glosses over everything except for that relatively short-lived position. "

However, it is a relatively short-lived issue. Stem cell research gained its first federal funding (limited as it was) in 2001, after the original breakthroughs were made via private funding in 1998. The NIH recommended to Clinton in 1995 that he support research on existing embryos, but not to support creating embryos for research purposes.
It is virtually impossible to have a long-lived position on federal funding for stem cell research.

When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed," Biden told Couric.

Oh, that Joe! More editions than a Time-Life series.

"Chicago Sun-Times reports today
"Uncharacteristically low turnout for Barack Obama rally in Green Bay, Wisc." "

Geevil even National Review called the Obama & McCain-Palin crowds in Green Bay (around 8000 people) about even.

Yes Biden may have made a gaffe about FDR appearing on TV, although you will note that Biden did not specify if FDR was speaking about a current event or an historical one. FDR first spoke on TV in 1939. And Michelle Malkin, bless her lack of heart, is also WRONG about when TV was invented. TV DID exist in 1929, several experimental broadcasts had already been successful at that time. FDR began his "Fireside Chats" on radio in 1929 when he was Governor of New York. It is not inconceivable to think that discussed the Stock Market crash in one of broadcasts.

Chicago Sun-Times reports today
"Uncharacteristically low turnout for Barack Obama rally in Green Bay, Wisc."

Well I assume there was no free rock concert this time.

LOL, CNN(and others) threatened to remove their cameras from the UN photo op today after the McCain campaign tried to prevent a pool producer from being there.

Seriously, who is this Candidate McCain? I barely recognize the guy.

His campaign seems like it has been assembled using the sleaziest parts of past Republican campaigns.

12 days left for Obama to drop Biden!!

I place bets he will wait until after the debate on Oct 2, then drop Biden and put in someone more liberal, or Hilary!

But he does not want the new choice to go up in a debate!!

After Oct 5 he is stuck with Biden!!

Jake are you able to keep up with fact checking Obama, he changes his position so quick that I wonder how many ads he did had to be redone, or how fast his 300 aids heads are spinning.

First of all there is NO proof babies stem cells cure anything, there should be no federal money spent on it, if there was a cure from it the private market would invest. why should we the tax payers support research to make the drug companies rich. but again there is proven developments with Adult stem cells.

All this is is for the elitists to get more tax payer money, otherwise they would not spend 30 million dollars on ads for the research they would donate the 30 million dollars to do the research!

Time to hire some temps to shore up the "Oh That Joe" workolad

riley,
McCain and Palin have nothing in common, except for, Oil Tycoon Advisors. And Both are for a quick first-strike WAR.

For stem cell research
Palin no
McCain flip-flopping

Has passed many anti-gun laws
Palin no
McCain definatley

Pro-choice
Palin no
Mccain Yes

Knows where Spain is
Palin yes
McCain still flip-flopping

When I see a remark from any camp, I research everything I can on that subject.
Past. Present. and a possible Future.
But this only leads to a personal opinion.
I could state all kinds of facts, but you will only see it as an opinion.
You, yourself must study, what You want to learn.
If You do not want to know more, about Palin. Then you will know, no more, than you do.

Biden needs to drop out to save his own career.
He's stuck with a wimpy lightweight that is dragging him down.

Looks like the Chicago thug is going to have to get in Biden's face to make him shut up.

Biden doesn't seem to agree with many of BO's views.

Obama didn't have the backbone or good judgement to pick Hillary--so he's stuck with ding dong Biden.

Oh, that Joe! FDR got on tv during the stock market crash of 1929.

"What no one seems to be getting here is that with all of the millions that have already been poured into Embryonic stem cell research is that its been money wasted. Nothing positive has come of it."

Only if you listen to right wing rags, Chris.

"Using embryonic stem cells, Mayo Clinic researchers transformed these master cell types into fully functional cardiac cells and transplanted them into damaged regions of the myocardium, where the cells integrated into the infarct and showed rapid and robust improvements, which were stable over an extended period post-therapy."

" University of Iowa researchers say Leukemia patients may soon have another way to boost their immune systems -- embryonic stem cells."

--What no one seems to be getting here is that with all of the millions that have already been poured into Embryonic stem cell research is that its been money wasted. Nothing positive has come of it.
All of the stem cell advancements to date has come from Adult stem cell therapy. Checkout Regenocyte to learn about how adult stem cell therapy is currently saving lives.--

That's what they tell you. :)

What no one seems to be getting here is that with all of the millions that have already been poured into Embryonic stem cell research is that its been money wasted. Nothing positive has come of it.
All of the stem cell advancements to date has come from Adult stem cell therapy.

HAHA is unfairly attacking Sarah Palin with the tuning fork reference. Samantha needs to turn him over to PUMA.

Oh, that Joe! Eliminate coal jobs in the US. Take that PA, WV, KY, et. al.

Vote Independant

The complaint here is that Obama has only been accurate part of the time in portraying McCain's opposition to stem cell research because McCain has only opposed it part of his career. The ad will probably be right again in a week.

Concerned in OH, The same way that Palin says her oil company already has oil resereves, but McCains Oil Tycoon Advisors, has contracted NOT to share with all America yet. Its called fixings the energy market, in hopes to 'Buy' McCain into office. Then they will buy your morgages for homes and businesses. They will in fact, be buying your life, at a cheap price.

Senator Stevens of Alaska, may turn out to have a little leverage on Palin. :)
Just wait and see.

"We now know that the DNC did everything in their power to make sure Barack Obama would be the nominee. Never mind what the voters wanted, this is the year the DNC decided to nominate a black man. Anyone who thought Hillary Clinton was the better candidate was screamed at, called a racist, and told to either stand aside or get out of the Party. The DNC even scheduled their convention so the winner would accept the nomination on the anniversary of Martin Luther King’s “I have a dream” speech.

Now I see that the first presidential debate this Friday between Barack Obama and John McCain will take place at “Ole Miss”–the University of Mississippi in Oxford, Mississippi. Could there be a more favorable site for Obama? It looks like the Debate committee decided to give us another “teachable moment.” The cable networks must be salivating at this opportunity to give their favorite candidate another boost. "

PUMA

I love PUMA.

McCain switch position too fast. He looks like a vibrating tuning fork.

Sarah, you can change your mind. AIG Bailout? Yes and No. Confederate Flag? Yes and No. Till Death Do Us Part? Yes and No. Path to Citizenship? Yes and No. Inconsistency is the hallmark of a facile mind. Maverick.

One thing that is not mentioned about the Republican platform is the inherent paradox in their position. They claim to support research on iPS cells (ES-like stem cells made from adult tissues), but want to ban all use of ES cells. The problem with this is that the only way to determine if iPS cells derived from adult cells behave like true stem cells is to compare them to real ES cells. All the major breakthroughs on adult and iPS cells have come through a comparison to ES cells and their properties. Thus, banning all ES cell research will also significantly slow, if not stop progress on the therapeutic reseach of adult stem cells.

How does this compare to Biden committing to outsourcing our coal needs to China, which is a direct contradiction to 0bama's plank?

Someone needs to ask McCain how he can support research that causes the destruction of embryos if he thinks that human rights begin at conception.

This farce needs to be exposed.

Either he supports the destruction of human beings for research or he lied and he doesn't believe that human rights begin at conception.

Sure, I would be glad, to listen to everyones point of view, to get your votes.

Vote 'No', to McBluff.

He tells anti-gun groups,"We will Take the guns away".
Then he tells gun owners, "We will not, Take your guns away".

So which Americans, are being lied to?
Can anyone answer this question?

"It is unfair to do a fact check on any charge Obama makes against McCain simply because McCain changes his position so fast you can't keep up with him."

ROFL

McCain and his economic adviser pushed through the deregulation to get us into this mess. A couple of months ago his adviser said there is no recession, that it's all in our heads and we're whiners. Last week McCain said our economy is strong. A couple of days ago he said the deregulation *helped*. Now we're watching the biggest bailout in history, and he's pointing the finger at the head of the SEC. What kind of fool trusts this guy?

Samantha's post causes me to have second thoughts. Sometimes you can make a true charge about McCain using his own words, as in the case of deregulating health insurance, then McCain says that is not what he meant.
Such as "the fundamentals of our economy are sound" actually meant "American workers are good, productive people."

It is unfair to do a fact check on any charge Obama makes against McCain simply because McCain changes his position so fast you can't keep up with him.