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Grabbing a Cheesesteak in South Philly, Palin Opines on Pakistan -- But Does She Contradict McCain Policy?
September 28, 2008 11:47 AM
Saturday night in Mo-town Philly, and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin found herself at Tony Luke’s on Oregon Avenue.
“It’s Tina Fey!” shouted a bystander as Palin and her daughter Willow walked in.
According to the pool report, one Philadelphian asked Palin, as she stood in the line, if she'd heard from her son Track.
“No," Palin said. "I can’t wait to hear from him. I’ll track him down today.”
A reporter asked if she'd watched Friday night's presidential debate.
“I did, I did," she said. "Oh. McCain did awesome. He was great. He was absolutely on his game.”
Is she ready for her Thursday night debate with Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del.?
“I am," Palin said. "Look forward to it. Look forward to getting to speak to Americans through that debate, absolutely.”
At the counter, Palin ordered two cheesesteaks, whiz and onions. The woman at the counter asked the governor's name.
Palin paused.
“Sarah,” she finally said.
The woman laughed. The joke being, apparently, that everyone knew her name already.
“That’s priceless,” said a guy in the kitchen.
**
As Palin was glad handling, a man named Michael Rovito, wearing a Temple University t-shirt, approached Palin
“How about the Pakistan situation?" he asked her. "What’s your thoughts about that.”
“In Pakistan?” she asked.
“What’s going on over there," Rovito said, "like Waziristian?”
“It’s working with Zardari to make sure that we’re all working together to stop the guys from coming in over the border," Palin responded. "And we’ll go from there.”
“Waziristan is blowing up!” exclaimed Rovito.
“Yeah it is," said Palin, "and the economy there is blowing up too.”
“So we do cross the border," he asked, "like from Afghanistan to Pakistan, you think?”
“If that’s what we have to do stop the terrorists from coming any further in," she said, "absolutely, we should.”
**
Today on This Week, George Stephanopoulos asked Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., if what Palin said in any way contradicted McCain's criticism of Obama for saying aloud that -- if given actionable intelligence about high-level al Qaeda targets in Pakistan -- the U.S. should strike at targets within Pakistan with or without that government's permission.
"That seems very similar," George said after playing the Palin quote. "She's asked, 'Do we have to cross the border from Afghanistan to Pakistan?' She says, 'If that's what we have to do stop the terrorists from coming any further in, absolutely, we should.'"
McCain said that Palin "shares my view that we will do whatever is necessary. The problem is, you don't announce it. You don't -- you don't say to the Pakistanis, 'We're coming in unilaterally and carry out operations.' Teddy Roosevelt, speak softly but carry a big stick. She shares my view on that. That's just -- that's fundamentals of knowledge and maturity and judgment."
"But she did say there right there we should go in," George said.
"She was in a conversation with some young man that -- or whoever it was," McCain said. "She understands and has stated repeatedly that we're not going to do anything except in America's national security interest and we are not going to, quote, 'announce it ahead of time.' That is -- the important part of it is that you do what you have to do, working with these countries, but to announce you're going to attack another country is not a mature way to address the issue."
George asked if Palin shouldn't have said that.
"She did fine," McCain said. "She did just fine….This business of, in all due respect, people going around and -- with sticking a microphone while conversations are being held, and then all of a sudden that's -- that's a person's position, this is a free country, but I don't think most Americans think that that's a definitive policy statement made by Governor Palin. And I would hope you wouldn't, either."
-- jpt
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Maybee,
Of course we would work with Zadari but do you really think that if we know where Bin Laden is and Zadari says we can't go in that we should not go in?
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What if we know Bin Laden is in London, but Britain is hesitant to turn him over because they fear a terrorism backlash. It could happen.
Would Obama stand up today and say we would bomb Britain if they didn't help us get Bin Laden? No.
Obama won't even say he is willing to draw up military plans against *Iran*. Yet he'll say it about Pakistan.
Pakistan, as troublesome as it is, is an ally. It takes special diplomatic handling, which Obama pretends to be all about.
Sarah Palin did nothing to contradict McCain.
Posted by: MayBee | Sep 28, 2008 3:13:25 PM
So Capt Right WInger says that invading an ally is ok to prevent a major attack if stated by the right wing candidate but invasion by an ally to get Bin Laden is the worst thing ever.
Love those knots you tied yoruself in to declare Palin right when she and Obama siad the same thing which is that we should work with Zadari but if we can hit terrorists we should not hesitate.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 28, 2008 3:11:57 PM
Sarah Palin is a disaster - McCain made a huge blunder and now is stuck with it. Suits him fine...
Posted by: Texan | Sep 28, 2008 3:10:01 PM
Maybee,
Of course we would work with Zadari but do you really think that if we know where Bin Laden is and Zadari says we can't go in that we should not go in?
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 28, 2008 3:08:06 PM
The way I took Gov. Palin's comments was that if we were in hot pursuit we could go across borders to prevent an imminent attack.
But the greater point is that it is one thing to speak about hypotheticals (which Gov. Palin was doing) but it is quite another to declare that invading an ally nation was a planned activity (as Senator Obama has stated).
Posted by: Captain America | Sep 28, 2008 3:00:43 PM
Ryan C said:
"They of course ignore this part of the equation
“So we do cross the border," he asked, "like from Afghanistan to Pakistan, you think?”
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No, I'm not ignoring that part of the equation. I am saying people have to acknowledge it is only part of the equation.
Do you see any detail given in the report that the guy asked if we would go in against Zardari's will?
McCain has not said he would not cross the border into Pakistan. He has certainly not said he would not go into Pakistan if we were working with Zardari.
He has said he would not announce in advance that he would invade an ally, because that puts the ally on the defensive *against us*.
Palin did not contradict him.
Posted by: MayBee | Sep 28, 2008 2:59:30 PM
A McCain defender opines:
"In this short conversation, she clearly says we would be ***working with Zardari***.
There is no contradiction with McCain's stated policy of working with Zardari."
They of course ignore this part of the equation
“So we do cross the border," he asked, "like from Afghanistan to Pakistan, you think?”
“If that’s what we have to do stop the terrorists from coming any further in," she said, "absolutely, we should.”
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 28, 2008 2:51:29 PM
"Didn't we, in effect, already announce our willingness to cross the borders of uncooperative regimes in order to accomplish our anti-terrorism objectives seven years ago?"
No only that Jeff but the US military has already begun to move across the border to hit terrorist camps.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 28, 2008 2:45:18 PM
TRW,
To add to your point, Pailn's gaffes would not look nearly as bad if she was out there taking interviews.
That is what happens when you gamble on a campaign strategy that limits any and all interaction with the press and relies upon stump speeches.
Biden has given 100 interviews since he was nominated.
If the Couric interview had been the 20th Palin had given, would her gaffes matter as much?
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 28, 2008 2:42:08 PM
I'm confused. Isn't "any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism" fair game? Isn't that part of the Bush Doctrine? Didn't we, in effect, already announce our willingness to cross the borders of uncooperative regimes in order to accomplish our anti-terrorism objectives seven years ago?
Posted by: Jeff | Sep 28, 2008 2:41:27 PM
In this short conversation, she clearly says we would be ***working with Zardari***.
There is no contradiction with McCain's stated policy of working with Zardari.
Posted by: MayBee | Sep 28, 2008 2:40:34 PM
Biden has done 100 interviews since becoming a VP candidate; Palin only 3. It seems like Obama has chosen talk over action again.
Posted by: young_voter | Sep 28, 2008 2:39:02 PM
So Obama is tied to lobbyists because Biden's son is a lobbyist.
Does that mean that McCain is tied to greedy bankers since his son resigned from the Silver State S & L right before it was seized by the feds two months ago?
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 28, 2008 2:37:21 PM
Deregulation (trickle down, Voo Doo economics)caused this mess, a policy advocated by economist Milton Friedman, and followed like a religion by Republicans.
This ideology is bankrupting our country, but they still believe in it.
Vote them out!
Posted by: McHooverville | Sep 28, 2008 2:33:15 PM
I find it interesting that McCain supporters deflect criticism of Palin by saying, "but, but Biden makes mistakes too!!!" This is true. He absolutely does. But while Biden may stick his foot in his mouth, or be too long winded at times, there is a clear difference between the two candidates, and anyone with any intellectual honesty knows it: Biden can speak in a coherent fashion about a variety of topics. So far, Palin can't. Since Barack picked Biden only a month ago, he has done approximately 100 interviews with local and national press; Palin has done 3.
So stop the false equivalency here. Just man up. Does Biden trip up every now in then? Yes. I have no problem acknowledging that. The difference is, Biden has demonstrated competence, openness, and accessibility. Palin has not.
Posted by: TRW | Sep 28, 2008 2:31:54 PM
Richard, of course Obama & Palin are right that we should get Bin Laden if we can whether or not Pakistan says its ok.
McCain is just stuck on that as an attacking point which his campaign seems to have recycled from the Dem primaries like many of their other attacks.
Its just another example of rank hypocrisy on the part of the McCain campaign attacking Obama for things they are far guiltier of.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 28, 2008 2:29:53 PM
Ryan, you just don't get it......... it's okay for McCain to say those things, and even Sarah Palin. It's only not okay for Obama. BTW, that was very well stated. Thanx!
Posted by: Richard | Sep 28, 2008 2:23:14 PM
McCain has demonstrated he has not put America first with his selection of an unqualified dufus as VP. She has got to be worse than the dufus who is now president. I cannot imagine how she could lead America in the event of McCain being incapacitated. McCain has demonstrated his erratic behavior once too often and may be of the verge of being incapacitated already.
Posted by: ron | Sep 28, 2008 2:23:01 PM
Why at a press conference today did obama say the senate banking committee is his committee? Not long ago obama said he was the chairman of the senate banking committee. obama is not on the senate banking committee. What's that about? Maybe if obama would release his medical records we'd get an idea of what that's about.
Posted by: hadenough | Sep 28, 2008 2:21:03 PM
Independent: I agree with you about striking in Pakistan if we must. Palin is right, Obama is right, and I'm sure somewhere there is a record of John McCain having said the same thing.
Posted by: Richard | Sep 28, 2008 2:17:05 PM
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