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How Transparent Will Palin Be?
September 16, 2008 12:49 PM
GOLDEN, COLO. -- "We're going to make everything more open," Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said here yesterday, "and more accountable, and more attractive to those who want to serve."
Good government groups have told me that in general, when it comes to transparency issues, they're very happy with both candidates on the top of the ticket. Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Barack Obama, D-Ill., are both seen as "reformers" by these groups. Sure, there have been glitches here and there (Obama's broken promises on public financing comes to mind) but in general they see both men as allies.
Enter Gov Palin.
She has a case to make that she's a maverick.
She has a case to make that she's a reformer.
But is she a transparency advocate?
“E-mails from the Palin administration are being withheld from the public and the governor is citing executive privilege," reported Alaska TV station KTUU last month. "With subject lines like ‘Fagan,’ ‘Andrew Halcro’ and even ‘Alaska Ear,’ it makes some wonder how those topics could possibly be policy related; especially since those same e-mails were copied to the governor's husband...Officials say the private e-mails within the Palin administration won't be released.”
“Palin routinely uses a private Yahoo e-mail account to conduct state business," the Anchorage Daily News reported a few days ago. "Others in the governor's office sometimes use personal e-mail accounts too. The practice raises questions about backdoor secrecy in an administration that vowed during the 2006 campaign to be ‘open and transparent.’…
"Where you've got a governor apparently using a Yahoo account for state business, that's kind of a complete inversion of what ought to be happening in terms of public records,’ said Charles Davis, executive director of the National Freedom of Information Coalition and a Missouri journalism associate professor. ‘E-mail that's public business ought to be done on public accounts that can become public record,’ he said.”
Using a personal email account to conduct official business is what officials of the Bush administration -- perhaps most notoriously Karl Rove -- in an apparent attempt to circumvent any subpoenas.
Is following that model "transparent"?
In December 2006, newly-elected Gov. Palin and Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell, Department of Revenue Commissioner Patrick Galvin and acting Department of Natural Resources Commissioner Marty Rutherford met with three oil producers to discuss the new gas pipeline. The previous governor, Frank Murkowski, had negotiated a deal with BP, Conoco Phillips and Exxon Mobil, though the plan had never been ratified by the Legislature. Palin said her new administration would open up the process to other companies.
Wrote the Anchorage Daily News, "Palin promised her pipeline contract negotiations would be open and transparent -- although the meetings starting today won't be…"
"Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy," reported the New York Times this month. "The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records.”
When Palin started as mayor in Wasilla in 1996, she was similarly criticized.
“She’s also been criticized by the local semiweekly newspaper for a new policy requiring department heads to get the mayor’s approval before talking to reporters," the Anchorage Daily News noted. "An editorial in The Frontiersman labeled it a ‘gag order.’ Palin said it’s a temporary rule to smooth the way until department heads have a better sense of the administration’s policies.”
The accumulation of all these actions would undermine how transparent and open Palin's instincts are.
And I suppose it goes without saying that Palin was introduced to the public 18 days ago and has yet to hold a press conference.
- jpt
September 16, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (277)
Can anyone in this blog PROVE it was truly her email that was hacked? The onions satire on Obama looked just as real and probably contained more accurate subject lines.
Posted by: S.P. | Sep 18, 2008 1:48:52 PM
Lay off Palin - go after someone you really can't trust - OBAMA/MICHELLE!
Posted by: Jill | Sep 18, 2008 8:31:41 AM
First of all, tying Sen. McCain – especially on the issue of immigration reform – to Limbaugh is unfair.
Limbaugh opposed McCain on that issue.
McCain flipped-flopped and NOW supports Limbaugh's position.
Posted by: Steve J. | Sep 18, 2008 1:39:10 AM
It is ironic that someone in virtual hiding from the press is talking about transparency.
Posted by: Puat | Sep 17, 2008 9:04:35 PM
Maybe when she is president she'll have the good sense to put the nuclear codes in a cookie jar.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 17, 2008 7:59:08 PM
Is this candidate for real! As VP would she risk national security because she is so obsessed with secrecy that she'd bypass a secure account and use yahoo? A lot more dangerous things could happen than having a thrill-seeking hacker get sensitive information. That's some maverick.
Posted by: enry | Sep 17, 2008 5:03:42 PM
Almost forgot,
She does not practice simple computer security as governor. Should she be an unstable old man's heart beat away from running the military? NO.
Posted by: Kb | Sep 17, 2008 3:27:37 PM
It's hilarious that she uses a yahoo account to avoid subpoena, containing mail with subject lines of "confidential ethics investigations" and other government matters, and then she loses her pass to that account to a bunch of pranksters.
Transparent? Please.
Incompetent? Yes.
Posted by: Kb | Sep 17, 2008 3:12:34 PM
Ruth Marcus:
"Ideological differences aside, John McCain's campaign has been more dishonest, more unfair, more --
to use a word that resonates with McCain -- dishonorable than Barack Obama's.
Ideological differences aside, John McCain's campaign has been more dishonest, more unfair, more -- to use a word that resonates with McCain -- dishonorable than Barack Obama's. McCain's transgressions, though, are of a different magnitude. His whoppers are bigger; there are more of them. He -- the easy out would be to say "his campaign" -- has been misleading, and at times has outright lied, about his opponent. He has misrepresented -- that's the charitable verb -- his vice presidential nominee's record. Called on these fouls, he has denied and repeated them. "
Posted by: Jazzman | Sep 17, 2008 2:41:04 PM
Sara actually is transparent, we can see right through her! - and we can see Russia too!
Posted by: Remember November | Sep 17, 2008 1:59:18 PM
How is this even a question at this point?
It's like asking "How altruistic will Wall Street remain?"
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 17, 2008 11:31:57 AM
Sarah Palin is abusing her position as governor. I have researched and followed this investigation - "Troopergate" - since she was chosen Republican Vice President. Huge problems of abuse are there!! Legislature vote for investigation 100% - Republicans and Democrats. Then voted who would be on committee. Voted to hire private investigator. Approved attorney Branchflower. Evidence has already been submitted that is damaging to Sarah Palin. That evidence is what was presented to legilature.
McCain Campaign has come in. Problems present. Claims Democrats problem. But forget 10 Republicans and only 4-5 Democrats on committee.
Sarah with hold information. Claims "executive privilege". Sarah Palin and her administration use private email accounts in secrecy to avoidance Public REcords Act.
Divorce Court Records reveal Palin Family claims Trooper Wooten dangerous were only by Palin family themselves. No good planning, startegies to catch Wooten is he is danger. No audio ttapes, no video tapes, no documentation, no outside witnesses. One Protection Order was given, but never extended as family provided no proof. Court transcripts reveal divorce trial judge warned Palin Family to stop vendetta to have Wooten fired. That was three years ago. Vendetta continued. Trooper Wooten continues to pursuing this vendetta to destroy Wooten. This is a personal issue. If Wooten is a threat - Palin family could lodge new complaint with their local police department. Palin family could sue in court.
Sarah Palin political history reveals similiar patterns. Personal feelings seem to become issue in business
Whole investigation is a total cover-up.
This lady is lying about this!! American this lady is dangerous!!
Posted by: Sharonklim | Sep 17, 2008 11:25:30 AM
Yes, she is a fraud. Republicans wished we would be living in ex-communist Russia: No questions, no vetting, do as I say, if you ask questions you hate America.They are manipulating the truth and blaming everybody besides themselves, A FIASCO, LEAVE US ALONE, Americans are not that stupid!
Posted by: carmen | Sep 17, 2008 10:19:00 AM
Jake,
I think it's egregiously misleading for you to mention Obama's "broken promise" on public financing without mentioning the much greater sin: McCain's use and misuse of the public financing system to keep his campaign alive and withdrawal when he didn't need it any more.
Posted by: Greg M | Sep 17, 2008 8:32:40 AM
This is *such* an important issue to pursue, since her answers on the issue and investigation have changed so much. All the evasion and "offense" makes it looks like something fishy was going on. What reporter will break through this?
Posted by: sally | Sep 17, 2008 5:12:52 AM
My question now is, will Palin only answer scripted questions? All canidates: Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin should be asked 'gothca' questions to catch them off guard. They are all only human. Hannity can ask good questions, but I know he favors her, so how tough will his questions be. O'Rilley grilled Obama. I would like to see him on Hannity and Combs.
Posted by: historyforgotten | Sep 17, 2008 2:09:59 AM
Corporate Stalinists are those, who use a vail of secrecy, to hide behind. Sounds like Palin now.
Posted by: historyforgotten | Sep 17, 2008 2:01:54 AM
I think the real story here is in how she is handling this controversy. Public life is filled with controversy. Being transparent is the first requirement of a public servant. Those who try to obfuscate the truth and claim to be above the law because they are public servants .. are not public servants. LOL They are people who consider themselves masters and owed rights that the rest of us are not.
Posted by: Dave | Sep 17, 2008 1:59:00 AM
Well, actually she's more translucent...you can see right through her but ideas get scattered when you bounce them off of her.
Posted by: KenB, MI | Sep 17, 2008 1:09:56 AM
Stalinism is when a government rules through secrecy, kind of like what Palin is doing. Both candidates want things to be more transparent but not being able to see all of Palins records, and McCain helping her hide them is like Stalinism. Russia uses the same tactics to keep its population in the dark.
Posted by: historyforgotten | Sep 17, 2008 1:07:35 AM
Obama's a fraud manufactured by corporate Stalinists -- and when it comes to fraudiness, Palin's not EVEN in it with the ghastly Biden
---------------------------------------
Is a Corporate Stalinist anything like a Liberal Fascist?
Please help, I'm trying to learn political science from this discussion.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 17, 2008 12:15:54 AM
Monegan actually tried to stay off the radar and be deferential to the governor and let the investigation play out. But when she came out and lied about the contacts, he spoke out about the multiple meetings with Todd Palin AND contacts from Palin about the trooper just prior to being fired when he refused. Regardless of what the trooper did, that investigation wen through the proper channels and both his internal department review and the custody hearings were overseen by neutral and competent administrators. So, she says she fired him because he was seeking federal money to investigate sexual assault cases? And replaced him with a man with a known record of sexual harassment claims. This is the same woman who made rape victims pay for their own rape kits and would insist on her 14 year old daughter (the girl's age at the time) not get an abortion even she were raped. And she won't answer questions about it and won't meet with an investigator or permit aides to testify. Wow. She may be a woman, but she clearly HATES women. Well, I guess she gets along just fine with McCain who voted againt Biden's Violence Against Women Act and nominated his wife for the stripper contest.
Posted by: Kate Mom of Twins | Sep 16, 2008 11:51:52 PM
Jayhawk
re: "Can you say "Old Joe Biden the draft dodger?"
Do you really want to go there? well, OK then..
Read it and weep for the over 4000 brave Americans that have died for these frauds.
Bush and his fraud national Guard service, Cheney and all the rest of the chicken hawk neo-cons who like to get other peoples kids killed so their buds can get a hold of more Arab oil.
* Karl Rove: did not serve.
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
* Richard Perle: did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
* Ari Fleischer: did not serve.
* Andrew Card: did not serve.
* Ken Adelman: did not serve.
# Sean Hannity: did not serve.
# Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
# Matt Drudge: did not serve.
# Steve Forbes: did not serve.
# Tony Snow: did not serve.
# Michael "Savage" Weiner: did not serve.
# Brit Hume: did not serve.
# Roger Ailes: did not serve.
# Chris Matthews: did not serve.
# Neil Boortz : did not serve.
# Paul Gigot: did not serve.
# Bill Kristol: did not serve.
# Ralph Reed: did not serve.
# Michael Medved: did not serve.
# Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
# Anne Coulter: did not serve.
# Jerry Falwell: did not serve.
# Alan Keyes : did not serve.
# Ted Nugent: did not serve.
None of George W. Bush's three brothers, Jeb, Marvin, or Neil served.
G.O.P. presidential candidate, Mitt Romney, none of his five sons served.
Giuliani did not serve in the military during the Vietnam War. He received a student deferment while at Manhattan College and another while at NYU Law. Upon graduation from NYU Law in 1968, he was classified as 1-A, available for military service. He applied for a deferment but was rejected. In 1969, MacMahon (the judge for whom he was clerking) wrote a letter to Giuliani's draft board, asking that he be reclassified as 2-A, civilian occupation deferment, because Giuliani, who was a law clerk for MacMahon, was an essential employee. The deferment was granted. In 1970, Giuliani received a high draft lottery number; he was not called up for service although by then he had been reclassified 1-A
- Mitch McConnell, the current Republican leader in the U.S. Senate: did not serve.
- Bill Frist,, the former Republican leader in the U.S. Senate: did not serve.
- Trent Lott, the former Republican leader in the U.S. Senate: avoided the draft, did not serve.
- Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee" He defeated tripelegic Democratic war hero Max Cleland by questioning his patriotism!
- Phil Gramm: did not serve.
- Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
- Jon Kyl: did not serve.
- John Engler: did not serve.
- Don Nickles: did not serve.
- Rick Santorum: did not serve.
- John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments, to teach business.
- Richard Shelby: did not serve.
Rush Limbaugh -- sought deferment (because of a cyst on his tail end).
(Rush's conservative brother) David Limbaugh: did not serve.
George Will -- sought graduate school deferment, (too smart to die).
Pat Buchanan -- sought deferment (for bad knee).
Pat Robertson -- his US Senator father got him out of Korea as soon as the shooting began.
This is just a partial list......
GET IT ?
Posted by: Jazzman | Sep 16, 2008 11:41:24 PM
Well... guess what?
Her beloved yahoo email account has been phished.
an individual was able to guess the password (making this a phishing attack, not a hack).
screencaps of several emails were taken.
then another individual comming from the same group felt bad and changed the password and notified the FBI.
just goes to show you:
Sarah Palin is not up to the standards of running the US.
Alaska is another story, but when you run the US, you have to CONSTANTLY scrutinize everything.
she just doesnt have what it takes.
the concept that her Yahoo account might not be secure did not even cross her mind, now she learns the hard way.
Posted by: mongo | Sep 16, 2008 11:26:21 PM
How can Palin be transparent? CNN reported that her SUPPORTERS couldn't use their own signs to cheer her on at one of her bogus, lying rallies. They DISTRIBUTED those yellow posters that read "read my lipstick", "mommies for Palin" etc. Their campaign is controlling the rally signs for goodness sake!!! Her camp is trying to control EVERYTHING pertaining to her, so they can hopefully sail into the Whitehouse. WRONG!!! Sara Palin will never see the light of day at an office at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Posted by: Lila | Sep 16, 2008 11:18:11 PM
Palin is as transparent as mud. What a joke. To think of her possibly taking over for McCain as president makes me want to run for the hills. She must have a tremendous ego to think that she has the body of knowledge to run the country. And McCain, in choosing her, proved not only that he is NOT a maverick (if he was a true maverick he would have chosen Lieberman, who McCain really wanted), but he's weak as well. He caved to the "base."
Posted by: outtahere | Sep 16, 2008 11:10:28 PM
What's a PUMA?
Posted by: Loren | Sep 16, 2008 11:00:25 PM
Whoops! My bad. Update. The count for John McCain's transgressions are up from 70 to 76. Google: "Jukebox John keeps changing his tune." Obama has a looooong way to go to catch up with J-Mac. With only 27 infractions, Obama still won't come close to matching John McCain's outrageous record of asinine misgivings, missteps, mismanagement and mispicking of Sarah Palin. Keep lying John. I love to watch your numbers grow.
Posted by: 76-27=49 | Sep 16, 2008 10:59:20 PM
BTW: Jake, thanks for another intelligent, thought-provoking article
Posted by: JudiNV | Sep 16, 2008 10:56:06 PM
I'm a young minority male who embraces the hip hop culture and dress accordingly. Hip hop influences my style, music, vernacular, and mindset. For those who are quick to stereotype, I'm sure my presence evokes thoughts of thuggery. However, I am a college graduate, gainfully employed, and advancing in a promising career. Having grown up in a large urban city, I know my share of thugs. And trust me, the republicans are no different than the typical street hoodlums. The manner in which the republicans have conducted this campaign is nothing less than gangster politics. The street "dogs" that I know can only aspire to be as shrewd, cutthroat, and sinister, as the "Rethuglican" party. Damn, I wish I had coined that term!
Posted by: J.T. | Sep 16, 2008 10:24:13 PM
Transparent as she has been
as
TITANIUM STEEL
Posted by: Omentum | Sep 16, 2008 10:08:06 PM
Beckie,
The blog erases all links.
Just let people know what you want them to look for on google.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2008 10:07:56 PM
For some reason, this blog will not allow me to post a link to McCain's list of 70 flip flops, lies and failures. Just google "McCain 70 flip flops." Makes Obama look as solid as the pope.
Posted by: Beckie | Sep 16, 2008 9:50:43 PM
"Why did she give his replacement, Kopp, a $10,000 severence package after 11 ..."
_____________
Why not?
Obama and his wee church paid off his pastor to the tune of $10,000,000 in the form of a "retirement fund".... and through in a multi-million dollar mini-mansion to sweeten the deal!
_____________________________________---
WHAT THE HECK DOES OBAMA'S CHURCH'S DONATIONS TO THEIR PASTOR HAVE TO DO WITH PALIN AWARDING KOPP $10,000 OF STATE MONEY?
The former deals with private, personal funds donated by consenting adults to their pastor. The latter deals with the near theft of taxpayer's hard earned dollars going to cover up Palin's lies about Troopergate!! You can't compare apples to crocodiles.
Posted by: Beckie | Sep 16, 2008 9:43:57 PM
James, we have the same last name, Danley...very interesting. But we sure don't have the same political views. Maybe we're related.
Posted by: Beckie | Sep 16, 2008 9:37:46 PM
"The trooper's boss, Walt Monegan, has already stated that neither Gov. Palin nor her husband, Todd Palin, requested him to fire the trooper. Although he says he felt "pressure" to fire him."
That Todd Plain contacted this guy at all is extremely improper. We also have the issue of confidential information being leaked. You may remember the Linda Tripp scenario. This is similar.
"Now as for the firing of Walt Monegan, as a member of Gov. Palin's cabinet, she can fire him for ANY reason. However, Gov. Palin fired him because he opposed her budget priorities."
That is what she claims in documents her lawyer filed.
Meanwhile her failure to release emails indeed her use of personal email accounts to conduct public business are something that should be looked at.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2008 9:15:16 PM
Rejoining John McCain for a joint rally near Youngstown, Ohio, Sarah Palin offered an abbreviated version of her stump speech that included no mention of her putting the state plane in Alaska on eBay or her opposition to the "Bridge to Nowhere."
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2008 9:12:10 PM
Thanks again for the correction, Ryan C. Your right, it should have been December 2002.
Beckie, don't hold your breath waiting for the shoe to drop regarding Troopergate. In 2006 the state investigators found the trooper guilty of "a significant pattern of judgment failure." This pattern included the tasering of his 10 year-old stepson, drinking beer while in his state trooper vehicle, and killing a moose out of season. The trooper was never fired. He was given a 5-day suspension. The trooper's boss, Walt Monegan, has already stated that neither Gov. Palin nor her husband, Todd Palin, requested him to fire the trooper. Although he says he felt "pressure" to fire him.
Now as for the firing of Walt Monegan, as a member of Gov. Palin's cabinet, she can fire him for ANY reason. However, Gov. Palin fired him because he opposed her budget priorities.
Posted by: James Danley | Sep 16, 2008 9:07:01 PM
What McCain and Palin are
saying is that they are
liars and they are going
to keep telling lies to
American people.
So what's anybody going
to do about it?
Lies or not, millions of
Republicans will vote for
the pair. And they will
keep on lying.
Posted by: anon | Sep 16, 2008 9:04:02 PM
"As I said, most of them must have been done under wraps in the middle of the night,......"
No, nearly every single one was broadcast live on TV, from cspan to cable networks to quite a few on network TV.
Since you repeated what you said even though you were informed it was wrong, now I have to call you a liar.
"or on channels unavailable to us lowly folk here in Illinois where we suffer through the highest taxes in the country!"
If you can't afford cable, you're not paying the highest tax rates in the country.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2008 8:40:46 PM
My guess is that Sarah Palin will be a lot more transparent than Old Joe Biden will ever be.
Have you ever wondered why Old Joe Biden never served in military at a time when the draft was in force and Viet Nam was raging.
Can you say "Old Joe Biden the draft dodger?"
According to an article published in August of 2008, Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden received five student draft deferments during the Vietnam War and later was disqualified from service because of "asthma as a teenager."
Asthma?
What the that all about?
In “Promises to Keep,” a memoir that was published last year and became an instant best-seller after he was tapped as Obama’s running mate, Biden never once mentions his asthma, recounting an active childhood, work as a lifeguard and football exploits in high school.
Another "Change We Need?"
Anybody But Obama...
Posted by: Jayhawk | Sep 16, 2008 8:34:43 PM
"Its 22 debates not speeches. Nearly all of them were on TV."
As I said, most of them must have been done under wraps in the middle of the night,......or on channels unavailable to us lowly folk here in Illinois where we suffer through the highest taxes in the country!
Posted by: tarnation! | Sep 16, 2008 8:10:03 PM
"Why did she give his replacement, Kopp, a $10,000 severence package after 11 ..."
_____________
Why not?
Obama and his wee church paid off his pastor to the tune of $10,000,000 in the form of a "retirement fund".... and through in a multi-million dollar mini-mansion to sweeten the deal!
Posted by: just thinking... | Sep 16, 2008 8:06:33 PM
C'mon Doc. You can do better than a mere 27 infractions, can't you?
Posted by: Lila | Sep 16, 2008 7:48:53 PM
_________________
HOW ABOUT THE OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES.....lots more than a mere 27, and
GROWING every day!
Try it!
You'll hate it....
BUT
THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE!
Posted by: just thinking... | Sep 16, 2008 8:03:43 PM
I can't wait for Troopergate to expose Palin once and for all. Why would she commend Monegan for his exemplary work and then 3 months later, fire him? Why did she give his replacement, Kopp, a $10,000 severence package after 11 days of work? She's running her own mafia in Alaska. But not for long!!
Posted by: Beckie | Sep 16, 2008 8:01:49 PM
"27) Obama clearly has the bloodline of VP Chaney."
So this is something the "liberal media" doesn't want us to know?
That's rich... I guess you don't watch TV. This has been discussed to the point of Jay Leno and Obama joking about it on The Tonight Show.
As for the rest, I suggest you have FOX report on it, unless you're willing to say that they're a part of "liberal media" as well.
Posted by: alex | Sep 16, 2008 7:53:42 PM
Hey Doc !!!!
(Dr Hubert, Lt Col, USAF, Retired (2005)
Only 27 missteps for Obama?? How about these 70 lies, flip flops, failures on John McCain...from cheating on his first wife with his current wife to supporting the confederate flag to the Keating 5 and on and on.
C'mon Doc. You can do better than a mere 27 infractions, can't you?
Posted by: Lila | Sep 16, 2008 7:48:53 PM
"And, by the way..... you keep mentioning 22 Hillary/Obama speeches.
There were an awful lot of them done under wraps then."
Its 22 debates not speeches. Nearly all of them were on TV.
"And as for McCain declining on a Holiday, I don't blame him."
Maybe McCain if elected could take on Bush's vaunted most days on vacation record.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2008 7:41:57 PM
"So from June 2001 - December 2003 the Democrats controlled the Senate."
New Senators are sworn in in the beginning of Jan 2003.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2008 7:39:01 PM
"2) Obama does not want you to know that the number one (#1) receiver of Fanny Mae and Fanny Mac, Congressional Donor Recipient, John Johnson, was Obama’s VP candidate."
Obama got about $110K from Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac employees. Chris Dodd was the top receiver of donations from employees of those groups. Jim Johnson headed up Obama's VP search committee.
3) Obama was the number two (#2) on the Freddie and Fannt Funds Congressional Donor Recipient list."
Which contradicts NOTHING.
This is NOT new news!. It is just NEWS that the press has avoided publicizing because it might cause Obama's ears to wriggle, and cause him to cry.
And, by the way..... you keep mentioning 22 Hillary/Obama speeches.
There were an awful lot of them done under wraps then.
And as for McCain declining on a Holiday, I don't blame him.
Besides, HE didn't want speechifying; HE wanted a return to the town hal kind of talks...... but Obama doesn't fare well in that type of a set up.
Posted by: hmmmmm | Sep 16, 2008 7:27:04 PM
Ryan C, I stand corrected. The source I had looked like Mar 24, 2001. But on further checking it does say May 24, 2001. So from June 2001 - December 2003 the Democrats controlled the Senate.
Posted by: James Danley | Sep 16, 2008 7:14:27 PM
"TANNING BED GOVERNANCE:
Cover yourself in a protective shield and pretend everything is sunny."
Line of the day!
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2008 7:11:02 PM
Sarah has governed a State and actually has a resume, which is something BHO does not have. Whatever Sarah is accused of doing is insignificant when compared with BHO's lies, scandals and crooks. BHO has lowered the bar, not to mention that these misdemeanours have been overlooked or accepted by the American media and public.
Posted by: Beckie | Sep 16, 2008 7:10:45 PM
The Lt; Col likes lists with fake fact...let's have some fun!
"1) According to CNN and ABC (Aug 08), half of Obama’s contributors have given $1,000 or more."
50% of Obama's donors gave $200 or less (opensecrets)
"2) Obama does not want you to know that the number one (#1) receiver of Fanny Mae and Fanny Mac, Congressional Donor Recipient, John Johnson, was Obama’s VP candidate."
Obama got about $110K from Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac employees. Chris Dodd was the top receiver of donations from employees of those groups. Jim Johnson headed up Obama's VP search committee.
3) Obama was the number two (#2) on the Fanny Mae and Fanny Mac, Congressional Donor Recipient list."
Which contradicts point 2. And its Freddie Mac.
4) Obama refused to hold debates initially with Senator Clinton and now Senator McCain.
There were 22 debates between Hillary & Obama. Obama offered to debate McCain on July 4th. McCain refused. McCain also refused to debate Huckabee when they were the last two GOP hopefuls.
I could go on but you get the point.
Why do right wingers offer up dumb lies in their smears?
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2008 7:10:12 PM
For a girl with nuthin' to say,
she sure tells a lot of whoppers.
Posted by: anon | Sep 16, 2008 7:06:39 PM
Well at least we know the answer to the answer to the question, Do you know Bush's Philosophy? It seems that Sarah Palin has extensive knowledge of his philosophy and practices it as well, if you don't want to answer to the people, well just don't.
Posted by: aw | Sep 16, 2008 7:04:13 PM
TANNING BED GOVERNANCE:
Cover yourself in a protective sheild and pretend everything is sunny.
Posted by: InTouch | Sep 16, 2008 6:57:20 PM
Palin puts MOOSE FOOT IN MOUTH
She state that she was not knowledgeable to be a CEO of a company like HP.
Posted by: Underdog | Sep 16, 2008 6:46:50 PM
Look at 27. What Senator Barack Obama and the Liberal Media does not want you to know:
1) According to CNN and ABC (Aug 08), half of Obama’s contributors have given $1,000 or more.
2) Obama does not want you to know that the number one (#1) receiver of Fanny Mae and Fanny Mac, Congressional Donor Recipient, John Johnson, was Obama’s VP candidate.
3) Obama was the number two (#2) on the Fanny Mae and Fanny Mac, Congressional Donor Recipient list.
4) Obama refused to hold debates initially with Senator Clinton and now Senator McCain.
5) Obama knows as a fact that in the same breath, Senator McCain made a joke about the average American makes $5 million a year. During the Freedom Debates, McCain correctly stated that Obama and his supporters would use this joke to attack him.
6) While Americans are having a hard time paying for gas and losing their homes, Obama is going to diner with his Hollywood friends that are paying $28,500 plus the maximum allowable donation of $2,500 per person.
7) Obama deployed 31 investigators and/or lawyers to go to Alaska to influence the Democratic Party attack on Governor Sarah Palin.
8) Obama claims that he is not responsible for comments or actions that his committee says. Anyone that speaks for Obama is Obama’s responsibility for Hollywood Obama.
9) Obama made race the center issue of his presidential race.
10) House Rep. Nancy Pelosi has stopped all energy Republican Bills including having any bill go on Congressional record.
11) Obama has not passed one bill of substance since becoming a US Senator.
12)Obama has attached his name to countless Bills to validate his Senator salary.
13) Obama has yet to hold one meeting as the Chairman of Foreign Affairs responsible for Afghanistan.
14) The Democratic Congress is passing bills to make Obama look better than his record reveals.
15) Obama continues to run as the elected President based on the US flags and Presidential podium that he used on the campaign trail.
16) The Congress has passed 1,900 symbolic bills while not passing other more badly needed bills.
17) With full support of Obama, CNN has replace MSNBC as Obama’s primary media propaganda machine.
18) Obama went to Europe and attacked America and American’s saying he was their citizen.
19) On the O’Reilly Factor, Obama stated that he has not made contact with Ayes for over 20 years. Then he stated that he had talked to Ayers 1 ½ year ago.
20) Fox News has joined all Liberal News Networks to attack Senator John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin. Showing Americans make fun or make jokes about Palin or McCain on the daily news is not in good taste or newsworthy.
21) Obama and his family took a private airliner to go to a private island to go on vacation using Donor funds. A first in American politics and the Election Board has yet to investigate Obama’s spending expenditures. This is second free vacation in recent times justifying his vacation with a few media interviews to make them marginally legal but fully unethical.
22) Obama supporters are on the Alaska Democratic lynching mob including 31 Obama employees.
23) In record time, since the Democratic Party won both houses of Congress, Americans have lost more of the American dream than the previous six years under the Republican Party.
24) The reason Obama stayes away from making comments about Wall Street, Obama received more money from Wall Street than any other politician.
25) Obama supported sex education from Kindergarten (K) to 12th grade in spite of the liberal media and Obama saying Obama lied about this report and/or Obama supported law.
26) Obama thinks that because of his week trip to Europe, he is an expert on Europe.
27) Obama clearly has the bloodline of VP Chaney.
27) And the Obama list grows and grows…..
Posted by: Dr Hubert, Lt Col, USAF, Retired (2005) | Sep 16, 2008 6:40:42 PM
"April 2001 - December 2003: The Democrats controlled the Senate."
Jeffords left the GOP party at the end of May 2001.
The GOP regained control of the Senate during the 2002 election. Senators being serving on Jan 1st 2003.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2008 6:39:49 PM
Are we sure this woman didn't work in the Bush White House in a previous life?
Using personal email accounts to avoid FOA requests, instructing staff not to speak to the press, trying to shut down investigations after she said she'd "welcome" them, relying excessively on personal "loyalty" (someone recently cracked that her high school yearbook looks like a directory of state officials).
Sounds like the last eight years to me.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | Sep 16, 2008 6:34:47 PM
James Danley
PEANUTS, SO LET CALL IT 6 YEARS. EVEN THOUGH, THEY CAN'T MAKE A BILL THE VERY FIRST DAY THEY GOT IN OFFICE, I THINK THEY WOULD WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE THEY REPRESENT ABOUT REAL CHANGE.
NOT LIKE THE REPUBLICANS THEY ONLY TALK TO THE LOBBIEST.
Posted by: Underdog | Sep 16, 2008 6:30:35 PM
Underdog: "Republicans have had control of the Senate, the House, the Judicial and Executive Branch for 7 years."
April 2001 - December 2003: The Democrats controlled the Senate.
January 2007 - present: The Democrats have controlled both Houses of Congress.
Posted by: James Danley | Sep 16, 2008 6:27:47 PM
"Point is Cryos is that Republicans have had control of the Senate, the House, the Judicail and Executive Branch for 7 years.
You do agree with that do you not."
Actually no one has control of the judicial branch. Most of Bush's appointees have been in permanent delayed status. McCain joined the bipartisan coalition to help get some appointments through. Just another bipartisan attempt by the real bipartisan candidate. FYI in 2001 Jeffords went independant so republicans "controlled" the senate with 49 like democrats now. And it was 6 years for the record.
Katrina - Katrina was underestimated and FEMA didn't have the resources. The Fed is supposed to ASSIST the state and the state didn't call in aid until it was too late. The fed dropped the ball but only after the state and local governments dropped the ball. And the ignorant people of NO were stupid enough to elect the same mayor.
Notice natural disasters in other places don't have the same effect and people get back on their feet not staying in trailers for years afterwards never trying to get a job.
9/11 on their watch - THe events leading to 911 happened on Clinton's watch. The censorship of "Path to 911" is evidence of who has something to hide having to do with 911. Remember also in 1993 the trade center was bombed under clintons watch also.
Iraq war on their watch - I don't agree with the Iraq war either from the stated reasons.
Largest foreclosure since the GREAT DEPRESSION on their watch - Bad decisions and loans were made helping contribute to this. Part of the deregulation was due to politically correct liberal type policies. Both parties are to blame and don't forget the biggest beneficaries of contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac went to Dodd, Clinton and Obama all democrats.
BANK GOING BANKRUPT on their watch. - This is due to greed. It will do good for some of these banks to go under as it will serve as a lesson in the future to the effects of bad policy. Bad business decisions = you go out of business.
Posted by: Cryos | Sep 16, 2008 6:16:30 PM
re: Cryos
"It's too bad that many blacks don't realize the democratic party uses them as pawns as they see fit and the democratic party is the racist one who thinks blacks and other racial groups can't compete on even terms."
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That's almost as good as McCain/Palin running away from the last 8 years of Bush & Cheney... man up... your boys & gals, your policies, you were running the show..
if your post wasn't so sad, I might just laugh....that's the true Republican/Conservative sentiment showing itself... yes, Republicans are the party of women, and racial diversity...... LOL
Posted by: Jazzman | Sep 16, 2008 6:12:20 PM
""You already posted Obama's quote showing that he broke his word"
How so?
Obama specifically sought to limit the influence of national party spending.
McCain would have none of that.
Why would McCain give up his advantage of party financing?"
Nice try to switch subjects.
Posted by: Cryos | Sep 16, 2008 6:08:16 PM
Cryos
Point is Cryos is that Republicans have had control of the Senate, the House, the Judicail and Executive Branch for 7 years.
You do agree with that do you not.
Since you are so learned.
What the HELL HAPPEN
9/11 on their watch
After math of Katrina on their watch
Iraq war on their watch
Largest foreclosure since the GREAT DEPRESSION on their watch
BANK GOING BANKRUPT on their watch.
Give me one just one REASON you feel so tied to these LOSERS.
Posted by: Underdog | Sep 16, 2008 6:04:14 PM
"3. Policy can take several years to take effect. Some budget/policy changes have an immediate effect but many changes take a lot of time."
I agree it took until recently for us to feel the full brunt of Republican deregulation and removing of oversight.
And now we pay dearly for their policies.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2008 6:03:15 PM
"You already posted Obama's quote showing that he broke his word"
How so?
Obama specifically sought to limit the influence of national party spending.
McCain would have none of that.
Why would McCain give up his advantage of party financing?
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2008 6:00:18 PM
Underdog you are making yourself look foolish; please do yourself a favor and stop. The EFFECTS of a bill take several years to take effect.
Here's a more concrete example that has an analogy to less concrete policy changes. If a bill passes to build a new government building, do you go out the next morning and the building is magically already there because the bill passed?
Posted by: Cryos | Sep 16, 2008 5:58:36 PM
Ryan C that was his sidestep response for breaking his word.
You already posted Obama's quote showing that he broke his word; point blank. He can come up with excuses later but 527s had nothing to do with his quote. Nice try though.
Posted by: Cryos | Sep 16, 2008 5:56:30 PM
Obama said he was foregoing the $85 million in public funding he could have received because it tied his hands — and because the campaign finance system was allegedly slanted toward his expected Republican challenger, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).Accusing McCain of being “fueled by contributions from Washington lobbyists and special interest PACs,” Obama said that 527s tied to McCain and the Republican National Committee are “spending millions and millions in unlimited donations” to attack him.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2008 5:53:45 PM
Five Alaska Legislators, Rep. Wes Keller, Rep. Mike Kelly, Rep. Bob Lynn, Sen. Fred Dyson, and Sen. Tom Wagoner, will file suit in state superior court in Anchorage tomorrow morning (9/16/08) at 9:00 am (Superior courthouse 4th Avenue) against Sen. French, Sen. Kim Elton, Stephen Branchflower and the Alaska Legislative Council in order to halt the investigation of Governor Sarah Palin and others because the investigators have lost the appearance of impartiality required under the Alaska Constitution. The Legislators will ask for declaratory and injunctive relief in the investigation, stating that it is an attempt to use the Alaska Legislative Council to further partisan politics.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2008 5:51:41 PM
"Cryos
MONEY IN YOUR POCKET UNDER DEMOCRATS:
LOSING YOUR HOME UNDER REPUBLICANS;
WHICH IS YOUR CHOICE.
A FOOL MAKES THE SAME MISTAKE OVER AND OVER..
CHECK OUT THE CENSUS FOR INCOME OF AMERICANS FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS, AND WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT."
FYI this is a simple minded explanation for several reasons a couple of which I'll list.
1. Congress passed laws the president signs them. The executive branch does have some leeway with policy
2. The people who are losing their homes are mostly the morons who couldn't figure out what an ARM loan is or that got a house knowing they couldn't afford it.
3. Policy can take several years to take effect. Some budget/policy changes have an immediate effect but many changes take a lot of time.
Posted by: Cryos | Sep 16, 2008 5:51:32 PM