Political Punch

In TNR, Cohn responds convincingly to the ideological cluelessness of the McCain Camp.

Deregulation across states will just make it easier for predatory scams on people who can't get health insurance due to pre-existing conditions.

From darnobama:
"If I were Obama, I will never use Krugman's research to out balance McCain. it is krugman's sweet revengeand ploy to make Obama look ridiculous for which Obama is really had been the butt of the joke. Thanks for cheating the primary, Krugman will destroy the credibility of Obama by giving him a coup d'etat research lines."

Obama doesn't have to use Krugman's research, just use McCain's quote.

Krugman was quite correct!! I heard today and saw on news Republicans are not in favor stipulations for protecting Americans, keeping CEO from receiving excessive payout bonuses, etc. I was shocked, but not too surprised. Republicans have always supported corporations more than the true American people. They want us Americans Taxpayers to pay for the corporate greed, CEO's payouts in the millions, and all mistake by our government, but Republicans want no restriction applied to these corporations and CEO's to bailout??

US is almost in a financial meltdown!! STock Market Crisis!!

John McCain does in black and white print want US Health Care deregulated. Less government oversight for rule to protect US Americans. John McCain does not want an American to have right to sue if major medical malpractice against you is committed. I am college educated medical professional. Every American has absolute right to defend themselves for good medical care. Less regulations will indeed cause a medical disaster just as it has with banking industry.

I also have compared John McCain and his stances on social security. John McCain is all for privatizing social security - believe me. I have saved lots of news articles with his quoted statements on this. Please be aware this has been Republican push all along to privatize. What does this mean?? He wants to put our accounts in the stock market. Look at what Republican President has gotten us into today!! We are in financial crisis!! No protection for our accounts?? No recourse for us to protection our funds!! No legal stance to stand on for us!! Republicans in Washington have made and pushed bank rules for less oversight(deregulation). John McCain most definitely is privatizing social security! Our social security will be in jeopardy if John McCain gets his way!!

This Republican has had it with her party!! America is a disaster. No more!!

patti,

Perhaps because the number one issue to Americans all along has been the economy? We kept telling you war-mongers that the economy was the issue, but you refused to listen. Guess McCain thought we'd get scared and let the republicans turn this election into another war and abortion election. Out of touch losers!

Obama/Biden 08!

patti,

Because only a fool throws good money after bad? McCain's a loser, so why would anyone invest in him or his already failed policies? This is not a hard question at all.

Obama is the ONLY candidate that has stood up against the usury of the banks and credit industry. You don't charge poor people 300% interest in the name of providing color-blind credit.

Obama/Biden 08!

You people who keep lying about Obama getting more money than McCain from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae need to do your homework! Fact Check states that McCain actually received more money from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae than Obama did! Obama refused to take money from PACS, giving him a total of $16,000 in contributions from employees of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae! You republicans are such liars!

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Actually OBAMA has gotten more money from all of them:
Let’s start with the numbers. Why is a first term Senator pulling down almost $300,000 a year from Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Countrywide Financial, and Washington Mutual? He has not even completed his fourth year in the Senate and received a total of $1,093,329.00 from these eight companies and their employees. (all data from OpenSecrets.org). John McCain’s numbers, according to OpenSecrets.org for the period 1990-2008 (i.e., 18 years worth of data) only collected $549,584.00. In other words, Barack is receiving $273,582.25 (and 2008 is not over) per year while McCain raised a paltry $30,532.44.

Geeze it looks like Obama is in BIG with the Wall STreet freaks..

If someone is dishonest it's McCain. The deregulator, lier, reckless, lack of judgement, who's temperament has to be questioned. He has 19 lobbyist running his campaign. Our Nation will be destroyed shoul McCain win. We are at war thanks to Bush and his lies. Now he wants to go to war with Russia and Iran. Palin will go on witch hunts with her preacher from Alaska.

If I were Obama, I will never use Krugman's research to out balance McCain. it is krugman's sweet revengeand ploy to make Obama look ridiculous for which Obama is really had been the butt of the joke. Thanks for cheating the primary, Krugman will destroy the credibility of Obama by giving him a coup d'etat research lines .

From McCain-Palin campaign senior economic advisor Douglas Holtz-Eakin: "This is absurd... That crisis arose from corruption and regulators asleep at the switch. "
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Perhaps McCain-Palin camp was talking about Paulson and Cox. Both are republicans.

U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, Henry Paulson is a Republican. He was also the CEO of Goldman Sachs, the company that forced Lehman out of business with short-sales and rumor-mongering. Lehman is the only company the Bush regime forced into bankruptcy while all the other Wall Street gang gets a bail-out.

Paulson has worked for Republicans his entire life -- as far back as the Nixon administration.

The Republican SEC Chairman, Christopher Cox was not asleep at the wheel. He deliberately left Lehman, Fannie and Freddie to fight off the rest of the Wall Street gang by NOT enforcing current laws on short-selling. When forced, he put in place some new rules that should have been made permanent. Instead, he let the rules expire. During the expired month which left the market unregulated, Lehman, Fannie and Freddie all failed. Immediately following these beat-downs of these companies, Cox made permanent the rules that would have saved them.

This is no coincidence. This is the Republican machine and cronism working as intended.

Just like in physical war, when it comes to financial battles, the Republican machine is as vindictive as ever. They have no shame. You're either with them or they will crush you in the name of protecting the tax payer.

Lord help us if the Republicans "deregulate" any other major industry like Healthcare.

Obama/Biden 08!

The comments are out of context and typical liberal trash. The concept McCain is talking about is having competition across statelines like you can go to a Wells Fargo ATM in Texas or Nevada and the fees are the same. I had to go to an emergency room in Tennessee, but I didn't have healthcare there, so guess who got stuck with the bill???

Not all Republicans are liers. I am a Republican voting for Obama, because I am tired of mcCains double talk. He picked Palin for a quick fix, but her record shows her quick fixes come with a long term price. Poor Wasila is having to deal with a debt that they will not get out of, until 2023. If Palin wins, sure she may send lots of money to cover her own debts, but that is not Ohios fault.She should think before shooting of at the mouth.

You people who keep lying about Obama getting more money than McCain from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae need to do your homework! Fact Check states that McCain actually received more money from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae than Obama did! Obama refused to take money from PACS, giving him a total of $16,000 in contributions from employees of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae! You republicans are such liars!

Mr. McGoo and Barbie To!!

Douglas H-E, There is currently no more dishonest and dishonorable a politician than Republican presidential candidate John Sidney McCain. You can add his POW coverup to his mess created by his advisor Phil "I feel so sorry for your many problems, but you deserve them"Gramm.

Douglas Holtz-Eakin I haven't had health insurance in years. My daughter and granddaughter don't have health insurance too. Obama/Biden are good people who care about us all. I think I would take my chances with them instead of someone like McCain who said on Monday that the economy is fundamentally sound.

First the Blackberry, now the ATM.

re: jcarob
'I guess I too share Michelle Malkins latest lament. It is sad.'

Since Malkin, Coulter, Rush, Hannity, Savage, Boortz et.al stand as the pinnacle of moron invective ..... yes, it is sad that you share anything with them

After flipping through the comments that follow each alleged "news" story proudly offered up by our big media journalists, I am coming to the inescapable conclusion that United States is fast forwarding into a country of morons. I guess I too share Michelle Malkins latest lament. It is sad.

Belle Star

stop scaring people into voting McCain. That is very unpatriotic considering the fact that he has been proven to be wrong on all the issues. From the economy, healthcare, taxes, energy and foreign policy.

America needs a president with good judgment and new ideas like Obama.

Fact is McCain`s ideology of deregulation for the past 26 years has been discredited by the current financial crisis we find ourselves. His healthcare plan and attempts to privatize social security is under serious question.

Obama has always been a supporter of regulation. Obama has been right and McCain has been wrong.

Wake up America. McCain has no judgment to lead.

I wouldn't be shocked if government's next bailout is health insurance companies (besides auto makers and air industries, obviously).

We don't have free health insurance market. What we have is the government regulated, employer based health industry.

Obama is a FRAUD - his entire campaign is one big staged show. Corrupt Chicago gang style politics - with Axelrod as the producer.

McCain/Palin - BEST choice for our country.

Ok let's start a pool. How long do you think it is going to take for a similar quote to surface concerning McCain's support for privatizing social security? Now that is one the Obama campaign could really uses as seniors are a tough demographic for them.

Gee, Krugman's quotes sure did help Hillary in her bid for the White House.

"Obama is so far left and marxist ... "
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The CHANGEling's TACTICS are STALINIST. His actual policies are Republican-lite -- and Obama, unlike McCain/Palin, has supported the big Bush "bailout" of corporations that amounts to the establishment of full-tilt corporatism/fascism . . . just in time for the election.

Anybody who doesn't want the mob in charge had better vote for McCain/Palin.

I see a 30 second ad coming. :) It is a choice find. :)

hmmm chucky rangel ,that is just SO wrong...i think i meant chucky hagel but perhaps the two are so alike i was confused ,ergo the freudian post!

Fact Check thinks Obama is scaring seniors on this topic.

The truth about Republican John McCain's mess of a health care plan is doing it all without Obama's help.

btw , i didnt need chucky rangel to tell me palin wasnt qualified.

honestly ,really ...anyone that would SERIOUSLY consider voting for someone like sarah palin to be 2nd in line for arguably the hardest ,most important most demanding job on the planet should have their hollow heads examined.

i already can see how seriously the russians and the chinese ,n.koreans ,iranians etc etc...will be taking her when she makes an official trip internationally to chastise (haha) them for whatever bit of international mischief they are up to that week.

/insert eye-roll/

yeah , i recall vp (shotgun)cheneys' recent visit to georgia just after the ossetia incident.(lucky for them all he didnt have any bird hunting on his agenda while he was there, mightve started ww3!)

anyway, i can see sarah palin now... well sort of , i am trying hard to imagine her there in front of the georgian parliment , bashing those invading russkies (i bet she still calls them that in her top secret high level foreign policy meetings with gates ,rice etc etc lol!) and stumping for nato membership for georgia and all the baltic states etc etc...

well, i am trying to imagine that but its really hard to hold that mental image for long without busting out laughing...

There is oil in those areas opened for drilling and that House resolution also REQUIRED oil companies to drill on lands they have already leased, which are currently idle. It also (and this is wny they don't like it) required them to pay the required royalties to the American taxpayer who owns those lands, and that is something they have gotten away without doing for 8 years because the Bush adminstration "forgot" to write that into the contract. Isn't that a convenient coincidence. I am sure it had nothing to do with the sex and the drugs and the money the oil companies were giving their Republican friends.

Actually Kitty, there was much talk on the democratic side of reinstituting the draft. However, at this juncture, very few people are willing to send their kids off to die in Iraq. I personally would like to see mandatory military service instituted once this war ends with no exceptions for the children of the wealthy. I have no doubt that we would not be in this war if most people in America had had to risk themselves or their children in supporting it.

Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House, just perpetrated an unbelievable deception on the American people. On Monday, she submitted H.R. Bill 6899 to Congress and demanded a vote take place within 24 hours. On Tuesday evening, 221 Democrats and 15 Republicans passed this bill “the Comprehensive American Energy Security and Consumer Protection Act”. This allows drilling in those areas where there is NO oil and extends the moratorium on domestic drilling where there is oil.

I don’t know about you but I’ve had it with Democratic Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama. They are trying to perpetuate “changes” that will hurt Americans without the approval of the people of this country. Obama took huge amounts of money from Fannie Mae, Obama’s close friend Jim Johnson, CEO, of Fannie May was selected as his advisor to determine the next Vice President of the US. Obama has received 9.9 million from securities and investment firms. Obama has looked the other way at the entire sub-prime mortgage lending problem all the while taking money, and more money, money and money. Now Obama expresses grief to home owners---maybe he just didn’t know what was going on. Maybe his judgment is blind when it comes to truthfulness.

Kitty, you misunderstand me. I don't have any objection to private schools or the Ivy League or a university education. On the contrary, I would like everyone who wants to go to college to be able to do so without having to work 3 jobs like I did to pay for it. If parents want to save and send their children to private schools, that's their choice but they should do it out of choice, not because those in power have gutted the public schools. What I object to is the culture of privilege in this country in which many of the wealthiest enjoy many advantages, but work very hard to keep others from enjoying any such advantages. What I object to is those who send their children to private school and then work very hard to undermine the quality of the public schools, because in reality, they don't "believe in them" because they are "socialist." What I object to is that most of the places at the elite universities are awarded, not on the basis of merit, but on the basis of how weatlthy and powerful the parents of the student are. This is a system that defends wealth and privilege and tends to insure that access to wealth and privilege is largely hereditary. I have always believed that to whom much is given, much is expected. Republicans seem to believe that to whom much is given, nothing is expected, not even a fair share of the tax burden. It is absolutely true that what we have seen on Wall Street this week is the socialization of risk and the privatization of wealth, and that's the Republican way. Make the average American funds the wars and subsidize the businesses of the wealthy, but refuse to pay a decent wage to them or guarantee them even the basic privileges such as health care or education for their children. That was how aristocracy worked, and there were revolutions to try to put an end to it, but the same aristocratic system is essentially still there, and that's what I object to.

ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN CORRUPTION AND LIES.

ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN MONARCHY.

8 YEARS IS MORE THAN ENOUGH MISTAKES:

BOMBED ON 9/11
IRAQ WAR
LOSS OF JOBS
KATRINA
HOUSE CRISIS AND LOSS OF HOMES
ECONOMIC MELTDOWN

WHAT ELSE TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOD IS NOT SUPPORTING REPUBLICANS?

WE NEED A CHANGE IN GOVERNMENT.

WE NEED DEMOCRATS BACK!!

ricky, I am not against education from books. My library card is alive and well. I'd encourage those of you who haven't been in a public library since you were a child to please go to one. What I am against is people who have never created a job in their life making comments about grades. Read the book, "sway". I just did, and it makes a very good argument for why traditional job interviews and looking at college grades rarely accomplishes hiring the best person for the job. Now, go take a hike. I'm going to go do it right now.

Obama is so confused that he claimed he was on the senate banking committee.

Obama called the senate banking committee my committee.

The only problem is Obama has never been on the senate banking committee.

Obama is the confused one.

Obama is the one who voted for a homeowner to have a felony for protecting his family against a robber because he used a handgun.

Obama is the one who calls ICE agents terrorists for arresting illegals.

Obama is so far left and marxist if we elect him Cuba will have a more moderate leader.

McCain was concerned the GI bill would encourage an all volunteer military to complete the minimum requirement and then vacate. It's not surprising to me that Obama supporters would bash him on this given that Obama himself chose not to enlist because there was no war going on at the time. Please forgive me for not being able to post the link to that, but "they" get very bothered by links. You can go find it yourself if you want. Both the comment from Obama and McCain's position on the bill. As always, the law of unintended consequences kicks in on this one.

Just a couple reasons why Barack Obama is better for the middle class than John McCain.

Reason 1. McCain's plan to end employer sponsored health insurance may work: stripping people of the health insurance they have today, imposing new taxes on those who keep their insurance.

Reason 2. When people LOSE their employer health insurance, they will have to negotiate with the insurance companies as individuals, where lack the bargaining power of companies. People with preexisting conditions (say, you have cancer!) can forgetaboutit!

Reason 3. McCain's plan to deregulate health insurance will give these companies to choose what rules THEY WANT to live with by simply reincorporating in a state friendly to THEIR NEEDS.

Reason 4. Obama and Biden are proposing that the government offer a plan like that enjoyed by John McCain and everyone else in Congress, at a discount price for people who need the help. Then YOU can choose if this plan is better for your family or one you buy yourself or one provided by your employer.

Reason 5. We are basically a Judea-Christian nation. And anyone who defends a system where people can't get insurance because they are already sick, or are denied LIFE SAVING treatment for CANCER or HEART disease or diabetes is despicable. That is the Republican way, not the American way.

Reason 6. John McCain believes in trickle down economics. It is the wealthy in this nation that matter. The rest of you are just workers. This is why he offers a huge tax cut for those who make over $250,000 a year and virtually nothing for the middle class.

Obama, by way of contrast, wants to have a tax cut for Americans making less than $250,000. The wealthiest Americans are definitely better off than they were 8 years ago. The middle class? Not.

Kitty keeps ranting aginst education from books. Maybe that's why she is for the ex-Mayor who asked the town librarian how to remove books from the library.

So Litty, how come John McCain fought the extended GI benefits bill Senator Webb sponsored and passed over Bush's veto threat? You know, the one Bush gave McCain credit for when he caved in and signed it? How come McCain said Americans wouldn't pick lettuce for $100 an hour so we needed all the Mexicans to come and pick it for $5?

So I guess we should add this to the things Obama forgot to include in reciting McCain's position on deregulation for which Jake and the Washington Post criticized him five posts ago?

obama's kids go to one of those schools you can't stand that people send their kids to, and john mccain and sarah palin have children who are in the military. my father was a military man. so go take a hike. the middle class will not survive unless someone creates jobs for them. why is that so hard for your college eduacted brain to understand?

That's right John's conscience. Before you call the Congress "do nothing" just remember that since the Democrats became the majority just 2 years ago, the Republicans in the Senate have use the filibuster more times than ever before in the history of this country.

"The polls were fairly accurate during the primaries, suggesting that people who are not going to vote for Obama declared that."
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By now, though, enough people have figured out Obama's mob problem that they don't talk to the polls, or don't tell pollsters anything that might be dangerous.

Kitty,

I WILL NOT vote for the party that has declared war on the middle class. The GDP of the US has doubled since Reagan. Where is the middle class' share?

Republicans have succeeded in witting the rules and regs, even controlling the courts, and now we are living with the consequences of their decisions.

An economic philosophy that puts the nation's economy at risk, that says American's should drop their wages and environmental standards and standard of living to that in China and India may be attractive in the University of Chicago economics department, but has not and does not serve the interests of the AMERICAN people.

And by the way, John McCain's war in Iraq, costing $13 BILLION a MONTH is not helping us educate our children so as to be able to compete with the hundred of thousands of engineers graduating in China; or to rebuild our roads and bridges (before they fall into the Mississippi) or communications infrastructure (Japan and Europe have far better Internet and phone service); or change our economy to use renewable, American sources of energy!

Kitty, where is that real world? Is it the one where parents with lots of money put their kids in expensive private schools, buy their way into Ivy League schools, then complain because even though they have benefitted from all this country has to offer, they don't want to give anything back? They don't want to send their kids into the military or pay taxes to support those they send off to fight in wars to make them richer? I will go toe to toe on the real world with you any day of the week. I am from a 3 generation military family. We have vets (or deceased family members killed in action) for every war this country has ever fought. I know FIRST HAND how badly those who come back from wars are treated in this country, because I have seen it first hand. The reason I had to put myself through school was because the VA certified my mother, who was disabled as a result of duty, as not permanently disabled, and left it that way until she died, so none of the kids qualified for benefits. Republicanism, from where I have sat my entire life, is a thin veneer to justify aristocracy. Giving more to those who have alot. It was only in monarchies that the poor and middle class were taxed and that the wealthy were not. I don't support monarchy or aristocracy. I believe in democracy, and I would wager most Americans are there with me.

dee dee, there are lots of engineers who can't engineer their way out of a paper bag. your lil post shows what can result from people educated from a book. go live in the real world, and get back to me in a few years when you have some more experience.

Well Belle Starr, let me give you my point of view and burst your bubble a bit (like I said, it says alot about a party or a person that they hope for racism to be a factor in an election). One thing that all the research into this has overlooked is that racism is always general and not specific. That's why you get what we might call the Archie Bunker effect, which means that someone might be racist but think that person x, whom they know "is an exception." The more someone knows or knows about a specific person of another race, the less likely they are to judge them by the stereotypes of that race. So while I do not doubt there are people who won't vote for Obama because he is black (I personally know a couple of older, white voters who fit that description but they aren't voting for McCain either) I do not think there are as many as some of the pollsters fear. Also, as noted, I doubt those people will vote at all. I do not think they will vote for McCain purely because they are racist. There has also been no evidence, so far (I watch the polls closely), that the Wilder effect or the Daly effect has been in play (we did not see it in the numbers in the primaries for example). The polls were fairly accurate during the primaries, suggesting that people who are not going to vote for Obama declared that.

2nfer, i know! McCain is the guy saying we shouldn't continue to bail out these companies, and Obama is agreeing with Bush. Who votes with Bush now? It gets funnier every day.

Kitty,
It is sad to see someone willing to put out her own eyes. I made my points NOT ONE OF WHICH YOU CAN REFUTE for those with a little intellectual curiosity! I know that most Americans have the decency to agree that we should “heal the sick” and that attacking the middle class as the Republicans have done and this Republican wants to do is, obviously, not good for the middle class but also not good for the nation!

John McCain has said he is for the HUNDRED BILLION DOLLAR bailout of AIG. He wants to cut taxes on the wealthy. The poor don't pay taxes. This logically means that the burden of paying for all government expenditures, including the AIG bailout and the WAR in Iraq and cancer research and repairing the bridges before they fall into the Mississippi must be carried by the middle class alone. That is and has been the Republican policy, which I must oppose.

For those who 1. have a brain and 2. like to use it (sorry, Kitty), I will include the points I made previously:

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Point 1. Aiming at Joe Biden is like aiming at Sarah Palin. Off target.

Point 2. McCain's plan to end employer sponsored health insurance may work: stripping people of the health insurance they have today, imposing new taxes on those who keep their insurance.

Point 3. When people LOSE their employer health insurance, they will have to negotiate with the insurance companies as individuals, where lack the bargaining power of companies. People with preexisting conditions (say, you have cancer!) can forgetaboutit!

Point 4. McCain's plan to deregulate health insurance will give these companies to choose what rules THEY WANT to live with by simply reincorporating in a state friendly to THEIR NEEDS.

Point 5. Obama and Biden are proposing that the government offer a plan like that enjoyed by John McCain and everyone else in Congress, at a discount price for people who need the help. Then YOU can choose if this plan is better for your family or one you buy yourself or one provided by your employer.

Point 6. We are basically a Judea-Christian nation. And anyone who defends a system where people can't get insurance because they are already sick, or are denied LIFE SAVING treatment for CANCER or HEART disease or diabetes is despicable. But that is the Republicans for you!

ha...ha...ha....LOL, obama doesn't have detail on his economic plan,...because his backer is Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack.

Obama is blaming and whinning about McCain and attacking his character and doesn't deliver any plans on how to fix things, and given the oppportunity to just comment on the current financial situation Obama simply said"I want to wait it out" Obama is not a leader, he's just a community oragnizer. Now he says he agrees with Bush on the Biggest company Bail-out of the history of the US, American people I submit that OBAMA=BUSH too most of the time with Big company bailouts.

william, two wrongs don't make it right. if your argument is we should attack palin for these things, but not attack a black woman for these things, that's makes no sense. no one should be attacking anyone for stuff that's made up by the media. lots of "folks" feel obama has been given a free pass because of his skin color. those people are wrong, too.

"hope that there are still enough racists out there to cost Obama the election."
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As long as SOMEthing "costs him the election"! But let's hold out some hope for the anti-mobster vote.

"If socialism is now good enough and welcome over at Wall Street for a free monetary infusion, why is it not good enough for the nation's health care system. The Wall Street bailout is a plan to rob from all of us to give to the rich."
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Yes, it IS -- and McCain, who knows where the bodies are buried, will do best to be the candidate who demands national health NOW, inasmuch as it's NOW perfectly clear that the corporations have been completely out of control for a long time, and are unfit to oversee veterinary care.

Let's face it. McCain is an ideological Republican. He believes (as do they all) that regulation is bad. This position has always been contrafactual (that is, it is not borne out by the evidence) but it is an ideological position, which means it is not grounded in fact, but belief. This is the case with many other positions he holds as well. Now he has the problem of trying to campaign as a "change agent" with a record that says otherwise. That's why he has resorted to lies and mudslinging, and let's face it, the GOP's only point of optimism is their hope that there are still enough racists out there to cost Obama the election. I think that says a great deal about that party.

hey jack, you know who i'm perplexed by. i'm perplexed by all the people who have finally decided to show up and vote. had those very people just shown up to vote out bush in 04, we wouldn't even be chatting about this. so, if you ask me, all those newly registered voters who were of age to vote last presidential election are the problem here. and since they didn't think it was important enought to vote then, why would i care who they want as president now?

If socialism is now good enough and welcome over at Wall Street for a free monetary infusion, why is it not good enough for the nation's health care system. The Wall Street bailout is a plan to rob from all of us to give to the rich.

OK, I don't want to see the financial system collapse, so I actually support this insane outcome. But if the incompetent "powers-that-be" don't finally address health care and living wages for the rest of us, that are not invested in Wall Street, then our only hope will be divine intervention for what may come. We've waited for our turn long enough.

By the way, please take note that those same lobbyists that shut down the personal bankruptcy option, which is the only outlet at the other end of this same monetary pipeline for those who lost their personal savings due to health catastrophes, are some of the same people waiting at the front of the line for their own infusion of free money for the rest of us. Let's expose those people and make sure there is accountability.

It used to be that the GOP held the mantle as the party for fiscal responsibility. No one holds that mantle any longer. Fraternity boys that never passed adolescence are in charge of the big game now. God help us all.

Please remember that this current trend started with the likes of Ken Lay, personal friend and advisor to the Bush family.

To "Concerned in Ohio"...you should be concerned especially when the John (Bush) McCain campaign has 83 lobbyists on their payroll, including Senator Phil (America is full of winers) Gramm, the man who pushed the banking/financial deregulation that led to the mess we are experiencing now. I have no doibt that his friends will leave their gutted companies with huge severance packages paid for by the American middle class.

Then again McCain doesn't have to worry, he still has his 8 houses and a very rich wife.

Krugman was one of the few media commentators who dared to criticize the Lord Obama. If things were more balanced around the media, I imagine he would have been too. He was doing a public service.

Kitty:

If I had a vote for everyone on these boards who has "voted democrat all my life..." but now "support John McSame" we'd have had Democrats in office for the last forty years!

IF you really are a democrat, then why are you spouting the Republican line. As a Progressive Democrat, Barack Obama isn't my ideal candidate, but he will bring real change to this country and work hard to reverse the problems Bush/Cheney have brought on this country in the last eight years. McPalin would just continue and worsen those problems.

And then there's the supreme court.

Even if Senator Obama is as leftist as you spout, isn't it about time we gave the left a turn, after the extreme mess the right has made?

No Way, No HOW, NO McSAME/PALIN!!!

Obama/Biden 08

john's, none of that jibberish will matter if small business is bound by democratic taxes and regulation. who do you think creates new jobs? delaware is a small state without much regulation on business and the courts favor business. now delaware has it's problems for sure, but go next door, maryland, is a fiscal mess. lots of regualtion and trying to do business there got so bad, i left. i still do business in delaware. this is what an obama presidency will look like. business will take their job opportunites and go elsewhere. like ross perot said about NAFTA, there will be a giant sucking sound.

McHoover has spent over a quarter of century championing deregulation, now he wants The American public to believe he is a reformer? I know he is technologically challenged but could someone explain to him that in this day and age there is always a record. You know, the google. Karma baby.

Point 1. Aiming at Joe Biden is like aiming at Sarah Palin. Off target.

Point 2. McCain's plan to end employer sponsored health insurance may work: stripping people of the health insurance they have today, imposing new taxes on those who keep their insurance.

Point 3. When people LOSE their employer health insurance, they will have to negotiate with the insurance companies as individuals, where lack the bargaining power of companies. People with preexisting conditions (say, you have cancer!) can forgetaboutit!

Point 4. McCain's plan to deregulate health insurance will give these companies to choose what rules THEY WANT to live with by simply reincorporating in a state friendly to THEIR NEEDS.

Point 5. Obama and Biden are proposing that the government offer a plan like that enjoyed by John McCain and everyone else in Congress, at a discount price for people who need the help. Then YOU can choose if this plan is better for your family or one you buy yourself or one provided by your employer.

Point 6. We are basically a Judea-Christian nation. And anyone who defends a system where people can't get insurance because they are already sick, or are denied LIFE SAVING treatment for CANCER or HEART disease or diabetes is despicable. But that is the Republicans for you!

for 5 and 1/2 years, john mccain couldn't put our social security, health care on the stock market.

On november 4th, help write this:

for 8 years, john mccain won't be able to put our social security and health care on the stock market.

very simple
the 80's and 90's we waste
a trillion dollars for
McCain Keating "s and l" crisis and deregulation

the turn of this century we waste a trillion dollars on
McCain Bush push for Iraq war

a few years later as they continue to be in power

we waste a trillion dollars on
McCain, Gramm, Davis and Black and the rest of the deregulation lobby

as Gramm writes their new economic policies that continue that road

throw these bums out

You know, as an independent I might have considered McCain, had he run on an independent ticket. But I
felt the republican party needs a good housecleaning . I might have even thought he could root out the malignancies in his party, but I'm disappointed to see he has already caved into them - even before the election is over. I have no hope for him now.

Hey conscience, I know. I'm not for universal healthcare. What's your point? Joe Biden is from Delaware. He has benefitted from those very credit card companies people hate (you knwo the ones who forced people to go out and buy PS3?) And he voted against the little guy in favor of the big guy. THAT is a fact. Fact. Fact. It's as lippery slope for Obama to go this route. I'm just pointing out a fact.

Or perhaps you want to tell me that Mccain is not affilliated with the Republicans!
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Maybe less than "Democratic" hijacker Obama is ... the neo-Democrats ARE the Republicans, thanks to saboteur John Kerry.

Joe Biden is in this up to his plugs, and no one is calling him out on this?

Joe might try to make out that he's from Scranton, but Joe is from Delaware, so why don't we ask Joe what he thinks of Krugman blaming Delaware.

Joe Biden is from Delaware, and he championed the new bankruptcy law that makes it hard for people who have medical bills they can't pay to file for bankruptcy. Thanks Joe.