Lindsey Graham on Obama and the Surge: 'He Just Doesn't Get It'

Obama is a phoney and McCain isn't? Oh, please...

re: Graham's convention speedh outright lie in earlier post reprinted below this post - I saw the proof too, but thought it was US News or Newsweek. I saw the same picture in the helicopter, the gist that they got on famously, and also that Petraeus hinted himself that he might be a Democrat. ---------------- "Everyone in the media seems to be missing the obvious factual observation that undercuts this entire Graham line suggesting that Obama went to Iraq and didn't meet with Petraeus. There is a simple word for that -- it's a LIE. Obama met with Petraeus twice in July while in Iraq. Unless the photo in the July 22nd issue of the NY Times is Photoshopped, this sure likes like Obama and Petraeus sitting side-by-side in a helicopter over Iraq:

The media needs to stop these GOP'ers from rewriting facts to try to fool an all too gullible American public."

Meanwhile, The CHANGEling went on Fox, with O'Reilly, to say the surge succeeded "beyond wildest dreams", etc.

With Obama, it all depends on who he (thinks) he is talking TO ...

McBush has no campaign but Vietnam. The RHC convention was a joke. One big exploitation party. He’s exploiting Vietnam, palin, & 9/11 for his own gain. For one with ALL that experience, he had no answer to Obama's address. If he thinks Americans are stupid enough to elect him because of Vietnam & palin the pawn, he's more senile than he looks. He cannot win with policy and he knows it. That’s why all along he’s been trying to rip Obama. He’s got all you repubs caught up in the surge while he’s stealing you blind on the back side to the tune of $10B a month. And that will not change. Now all of a sudden he is a change agent, give me a break. When more of palin's dirt rises to the top, they'll continue to scream that Obama, the media, blogs, and everyone else is guilty of sexism. I guess buttons that say "read my lipstick" and phrases by repubs like "the hottest governor in the coldest state" are not sexist. You can't have it both ways. I wonder how the evangelicles feel when they see palin’s unwed, pregnant daughter paraded onstage with her redneck, don’t wanna be married boyfriend? Her little shine will fade over the next 60 days. We’ll see how you like her then.

McBush needs to come into the 21st century. Vietnam is over. And another thing, the repubs are discrediting what Obama did for poor people (white, black, elderly, etc) as non relevant. Those are American citizens who have a voice and a vote. Same old republican values. That poor people in this country have no value. McBush is trying to beguile Americans into thinking he has a heart for the people. He seems real. Real fake! And there is no way in hell palin is ready to assume the Presidency. This woman believes that birth control and sex education should be outlawed. One question, “How’s that working for ya sarah”? Stop fooling yourselves people.

If the surge is working so well, if we have succeeded in Iraq, why can't we leave? Nobody is saying that the surge has been without effect. It has helped dampened the violence. As soon as we leave, whatever that has been working will cease to work. Is that really worth going to war in the first place and staying there to make sure the surge keep working?

To set the record straight, what Obama said was "I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated, by the way, including President Bush and the other supporters."

Notice how he inserted equivalency by saying that Bush was "wrong" too?

At no time did he say that he was wrong to vote against the surge. At no time. Because he can't bring himself to admit that he was wrong.

If it weren't for the surge, we wouldn't be talking about withdrawing from Iraq today. McCain was right; Obama was wrong.

Obama can't admit he was wrong on the surge. He just absolutely cannot admit that he made a mistake in judgment. Just like Bush.

He's also proven to be passive-aggressive (3 a.m. text message; Mayor of Wa-Silly) which could end up backfiring on the USA big-time when he pulls his high school stunts on one of our enemies.

These are not traits we want in a leader, folks! Especially not one during these critical times.

Obama, has stated that main goals of the surge, were to quell violence, and make significant inroads so that the Iraqi's can start taking over and managing their own affairs.
So the "surge" isn't complete. The purpose was to make sure things don't revert to a civil war as soon as we leave.
And that, is the point, it's great to say surge works blah blah POW. But the facts are that it hasn't fully accomplished what it was intended to.
It is better than Bush standing on a aircraft carrier with that giant banner,
but it isn't truthful to say that it is a complete success.

I'm always amazed at how we discuss our presence in Iraq as though we are renting the property to the Iraqis.

I think an eviction notice is coming and someone might get a surprise.

Earlier in the summer the GAO, Government Accountability Office, issued a report that the surge had not reached most of it's more long term benchmarks. It's also worth mentioning hat the Bush administration has been working with Iraq leaders for a systematic withdrawal by 2010. Which of course is almost identical ( in duration) to Obama's original recommendations.

Everyone in the media seems to be missing the obvious factual observation that undercuts this entire Graham line suggesting that Obama went to Iraq and didn't meet with Petraeus. There is a simple word for that -- it's a LIE. Obama met with Petraeus twice in July while in Iraq. Unless the photo in the July 22nd issue of the NY Times is Photoshopped, this sure likes like Obama and Petraeus sitting side-by-side in a helicopter over Iraq:

The media needs to stop these GOP'ers from rewriting facts to try to fool an all too gullible American public.

You mean to tell me the president can lie to your face about Iraq, invade it, kills thousands of innocent people plus our troops, break it, then proclaim "Mission Accomplished" and then have NO plan for 6 years to provide for the aftermath but NOW THEY WANT CREDIT FOR THE ONLY ONE THING THAT WORKED? The broke the dam in the first place, tried to put it back together but with it full of holes, and then they stick their finger in one of the leaks and THEY WANT CREDIT FOR THAT? It's like the way it feels for one of my kids who scribbled on a paper and and I tell them how pretty the picture looks!!

Give me an freaking break!

Well, Lindsey,

Bill O'Reilly got Obama to admit what you and others could not...

Yep, Obama admitted he was wrong about the surge.

In fact, Obama said the surge succeeded beyond his "wildest dreams."

No, we won't go there...

Anybody But Obama...

The introduction tonight to John McCain was PREPOSTEROUS.

You guys were complaing about ffing columns? The GOP was DEIFYING McCain tonight in those videos and introductions. On and on and on and on it went.

It was bizarre.

Obama has always supported the troops, no matter what danger the boneheaded decisions taken by the Repubs expose them to.

His legislative records prove this:

Also, look at the official Library of Congress website

thomas.loc.gov

search for barack obama and you will get the same list as above.

Spread the word about this to fight all GOP smears to the contrary.

Lindsey can talk all he wants, but he knows that he is lying.

Congress told Palin not to build the first 'bridge to nowhere'

Palin is a liar.

Worse is the Palinban wing of the republican party - these people want to tell real Americans what they can and cant do with their bodies, in their homes and with their friends. Enough!

I dont' care that Cindy McCain was a white trash chick in the Flavor of Love - she's not running for President, so leave her alone!

we've lost over 4000 lives in Iraq. A war that had nothing to do with terrorisma nd everything to do with Halliburton profits. It was not so much the surge as the payoffs that have worked. We have paid the people that were shooting at us last year to not shoot at us this year.

Declaring "victory" after the absolute LACK of security left the country and especially Baghdad "ethnically cleansed" i.e. left civillians slaughtered to the point that they have literal concrete walls with barbed wire and millita (or formerly known as ethnic death squads) providing security is not a sign of success but abject failure. And if that is what you push as success, perhaps the American media will get Americans to buy into it, but the international media, as well as the people who have the misfortune of living in that hellhole, would care to disagree with such a "rose colored" view of their everyday life. This base disconnect disqaulifies anyone who bothers to voice it, out of complete ignorance and arrogance of claiming that one's life is better off under armed guard, barbed wire, concrete barriers, sporadic bombing, and armed foreigners who can kill you at the drop of a hat and not even be charged for it; Coupled with no clean water, backed up raw sewage, no garbage collection, or half a days worth of electricity in 100 degree heat. If that is what passes for a fair quality of life for the Iraqi people, no wonder they and their politicans are literally DYING for us to leave. The surge didn't work and the war was our excuse to stay their permanetly to bottleneck the oil supply and threaten Iraq's neighbors into restricting and driving up the price of energy. What was the price of oil then vs. now. THAT is what our men are dying for, while we sit at home and sing "God Bless America", and threaten anyone who disagrees with this reality with putting them into camps without charges like what happened at the conventions. Even if they are soldiers who have fought in Iraq and have come home. America is on the decline and we are cheering those that are leading us downhill. At least we can say we did it to ourselves for once.

Cindy and John have SO much money that they won't even let both of their tax returns be made public. When they gather the family together they have to decide which of the SEVEN (or is it eight or nine) homes they're going to be at. It's easier to be generous when you're VERY rich than if you are living from paycheck to paycheck with no health insurance and lots of debt.