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Mc Cain& Sarah woudn't know how
"To tell the truth!!"

joe montana, if energy is the number one domestic issue (it depends on who's talking - according to the alaska indepence group it's government abuse of children) sarah palin and john mccain haven't said much that IS accurate. sarah palin said that she is an energy expert and that alaska provides 20% of american oil. it does not. it provides less than 4% of US petroleum and less than 2% of natural gas.john mccain calls this gal an energy wiz. john mccain said that america has the world's largest oil reserves in the world. i'm sorry - but i'm a geologist and I used to work for a firm that had the largest petroleum database in the world. the US has about 2% of the world's known petroleum reserves. this is also backed up by the oil and gas journal and the world oil review. john mccain needs some decent economic/energy advisors. sometimes people try to throw in Green River oil shale as if that will be our salvation - they talk about new technlogies that make it easier to extract. what they don't tell you is that oil shale is nasty and low grade and most of can't be used for petroleum - it goes into other products. then sometimes they say - no, no you don't understand - sarah palin was talking about natural gas. well that would make sense - except that alaska supplies 1.9% of america's natural gas. the mccain/palin campaign does not know squat about energy - which is a dangerous thing in these times, since it controls both the economy and foreign policy.

Matt,

Factcheck.org is not the definitive answer to anything except maybe in JOIzEY

He just did, Joe.

McCain and Palin have made absolutely no mistakes, zero (not to be confused with first letter in obamas name) about their number one domestic issue. prove that they have jake. you can't.

I'm seeing a serious error in some replies.

Oil can't simply be "found" by drilling, it isn't omnipresent throughout the world. You have pretty specific geological topologies that do or do not have oil, and no amount of drilling will find that which isn't already there.

He often gets confused and mentally, intellectually lazy; she either lies or
just doesn't know.

"The only way this makes sense..." Jake, buddy, what are you, their baby-sitter? You don't have to try to justify their continued lies, and shows of lack of knowledge on the issues. Just report what they said. We can draw our own conclusions. It's not "balance" to try and make up excuses for them.

"Last I checked Obama wasn't the one actually doing the building of the search engine."

And apparently ripped the engine out of the bailout bill as well.

Ryan, there is a lot we can do to put transparency responsibly into these systems. But it won't be done because it is Obama's idea or McCain's idea. It won't be done because the Beltway spins up yet another gold-ribbon consultant committee that spawns yet another study that ensures the monies allocated are all siphoned away before the first contract is let. Trust me on this because I've done this kind of work for a lot of years, and I know what happens when the Beltway drives the bus.

Leave it to the engineers. Kennedy was smart enough to go to Von Braun and that is how we got to the Moon. It wasn't The Right Stuff, or the plucky Mercury astronauts, or Mission Control in Houston. We got to the Moon because Truman signed off on Operation Paperclip and the US Army smuggled the rocket scientists out of Germany and into the US. A small team of ably led professionals working together for decades toward one goal, given the green light and the funding got us to the Moon.

The rest is fiction and contractors.

So take a flyer on this: if you really want what you say you want, hire the pros and get out of their way.

We already know they are both liars...
But how stupid do they think the American people are!

This is there number one issues and they cant even get there facts right!

McCain Palin UNFIT TO LEAD!

"Ask Obama to explain the page lifecycle or viewstate handling? Where is the best method for loading controls that change values? No coaching now, no teleprompters. Why is session state problematic? Is the DOM a realistic way to store persistent information?"

Last I checked Obama wasn't the one actually doing the building of the search engine.

But based on your logic perhaps we should ask McCain how he created wireless communications.

Puff up that resume, baby!

She ate General Tso' Chicken....

Well, that means she ready to lead us to war with China!

"I can't believe that McCain supporters could possibly turn greater transparency of government spending into a negative. McCain would have made this website happen if he had the technological knowledge as Obama (or any current jr. high student, but I digress)."

No one has said that. Transparency is laudable but making a sweeping generalization about web tech that is dead wrong, then trying to claim that as a reason for voting for Obama, well that is exactly what is negative.

Don't kid the kidders, kid.

Ask Obama to explain the page lifecycle or viewstate handling? Where is the best method for loading controls that change values? No coaching now, no teleprompters. Why is session state problematic? Is the DOM a realistic way to store persistent information?

As with the energy and oil shale subjects, amateurs don't do this kind of work. Neither does Obama.

EnergyMain - Where are you getting your information? I'm still waiting for an industry citation. Wikipedia is fun and easy - but it really doesnt stand up to the World Oil review. You're taking a cheap shot - Green River oil shale is not petroleum - and extraction costs do not equal production costs, let alone prices at the pump.

In any case, both Sarah Palin and John McCain don't know squat about energy and don't have the sense to hire people who do. And I still have not seen a single reference to an industry source.

Oaky, energyman - what is oil shale used for and why? How does it compare to Permain reef reserves or Saudi reserves?

Jake, I noticed you've finally acknowledged that Canada has the worlds second largest reserves behind Saudia Arabia and ahead of Iran. How did that come about? Suddenly Canada is second in the world? History is once again rewritten based on truth! More oil is discovered every year and we've barely begun to look at the other 70% of the earth's surface... underwater extraction will eventually dwarf our current known world supplies. Just takes time, money and desire.

Rob - I'm an independent voter and I'm also a geologist. I actually read the World Oil review and have belonged to AAPG. Do you? Obviously not. Apparently you just make stuff up.

So: since you seem to be an expert - tell me all about oil shale. Let's start with what the energy resource is mainly used for - and what the problems are with it's use. Does it go directly to the pump? Is that what the industry suggests?

mara - Oil companies are in the business to make money, if you can get something for $2 bucks and sell it for a $100, wouldn't you rather do that? Probably not! But Oil companies can produce a barrel from $2-$90, which will and do they choose? Oil Shale extraction is currently being done for under $40 a barrel! Tar Sands, under $14 a barrel. But the profit margin from oil produced in other parts of the world are far greater and either the watchdogs don't exist or can be bought off. Just because oil companies don't do it, doesn't mean they can't.

Nonsense. Give some evidence, based on reserves, extraction costs, quality, that proves that oil shale is going to save us. It is not. The areas with Green River oil shale are riddled with red Halliburton trucks right now. Been to eastern Utah lately? If it were an economically viable alternative, the petroleum companies would have been in there in a month. We have been living on borrowed time for decades - and it is not because of environmental reestrictions. It is because we do not have the reserves other countries do - and because no one has asked the American people to cut back. We have 2% of the world's reserves. We cannot drill our way out of this crisis - if we could have - believe me - the Bush/Cheney administration and their petro-friends would have done it. The Green River formation and the Permian reef reserves in Texas could not be more different - in terms of cost/benefit ratio, accessibility, play, or quality.

John - "How much water does it take to extract the oil shale?" Not as much as you might think... ever hear of the the term "Water reclamation"? You should read up on Syncrude of Canada before your spout your nonsense.

jhw539 said
"Please cite your $30/barrel figure. I strongly suspect you are blatantly lying, but if not you have found an AMAZING investment opportunity (act now! Limited time only I'm sure!)."

It's actually closer to $14 per barrel but a dollar doesn't buy much nowadays. Get your wallet out and go buy SynCrude. Oh yeah you can't buy it directly, you have to buy an oil company that invested in their technology years ago. SynCrude has produced over 1.89 Billion Barrels of Tar Sand oil in the frozen north (water's frozen up there).

Shell also has the technology for Oil Shale that's very profitable and less than $40 a barrel. Go look it up!