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My comment is that people need to come off it and see what is in front of them. There is no way we will survive if McCain is in office. Sleeper McCain needs go sit down and take a long nap because that is exactly how he speaks and he has know ideal with the #@%# he is saying. All you Republicans go jump ship.

It is good to be a little humble and respectful to the constituents now that her husband desperately needs womens` votes....a few mistakes as well reminds us
we are all fallible !! Great breaks !!

Denise: Get with it. Obama may not win this election and Hillary will run in 2012. She lost the nomination thru Nancy, Dean and Reid who pressured the superdelegates to vote before the election. She feared that Hillary would win and she did not want Hillary to win the presidency. Pelosi is a very jealous woman and wants to be the only woman in charge. I hope the republican's take back the house to get rid of her.

Greendale: Michelle Obama does not have the speaking voice of Hillary, Cindy or Palin. They walk, speak and dress like first ladies. Michelle would need training. And it was already stated if Obama wins this election she has to get a makeover and stay quiet.

Michelle Obama is not even attractive and needs a solid makeover. She should go on the Oprah show. And if Cindy McCain bought several houses its no big deal. She has the money and Obama doesn't.Hillary Clinton can own several houses also. Oprah has more than one house. What has owning several homes or condos got to do with campaigning for the presidency. Michelle should stay home with her daughters and stay out of politics. Its a silly topic. Stay with the issues and the changes for the country.

Obama got her house the Democrat way. A crook gave it to her husband in return for political favors.

Obama - "we should decide that based on our self-interest"

A far cry from "Ask not what your Country can do for you, but what you can do for your Country"

Stop the Entitlement Attitude by voting for McCain

Obama - "we should decide that based on our self-interest"

A far cry from "Ask not what your Country can do for you, but what you can do for your Country"

Stop the Entitlement Attitude by voting for McCain

Of course she'd say that, as being neither likable nor attractive. It's all that anti-America sentiment that distorts her face.

Vote on Issues, Not Likeability and Attractiveness – makes sense to us, but don't tell Davis its personalities and appearances that count for the McCain's Campaign not the issues!

Also, for all you Hillary/McCain Puma's: If you think Hillary will win in 2012 if Obama loses this election YOU are WRONG..Hillary recieved 18 million votes just as Obama recieved 18,500. The different is Obama recieved lots of votes from voters who will not vote for Hillary..Young voters and Blacks are not going to vote for Hillary in 2012 if Obama loses this election, so all of us better get ready for 16 years of Republican rule...oh, well...so be it...This country is going down the drain...Hillary/McShame 2012 & 2016 & 2020...all you Puma's can thank yourself for the ruining of this country...I'm going GREEN after this election so I won't be voting Democratic after 2008.

With all the "nastiness and lies" coming from the McCain camp is it any wonder that the Obama camp is trying to hit back a little. As for Michelle Obama opening her mouth, this woman has a LAW degree from Princeton U. that she WORKED hard to get, unlike someone else I know. Michelle doesn't have to use "veiled" comments. How about little Ms. Ice-cap? Each and every time she opens her mouth all that comes out is nastiness and lies...looks aren't everything...most people will choose "class and honesty" over appearance which little Ms. Icecaps has NONE of....

The only way for use to get out of the middle east and be energy independant is to vote for McCain/Palin. They will create thousands of jobs for the middle class.
No energy independance at all with Obama/Biden, and continued middle east dependance.

A parable for Hillary Clinton voters now supporting McCain/Palin:

Bob lives in a small town that has only two grocery stores, Store A and Store B. Store A has fresh food, friendly service, and reasonable prices. Store B has rotten food, rude employees and overcharges.

Both stores usually use blue grocery bags that Bob likes because they match his eyes.

Bob naturally shops at Store A.

One day, while at the check-out line he finds that Store A has changed from blue bags to green bags. Bob is not particularly fond of green. He leaves his groceries in the cart and storms out of the store, cursing the manager.

He spends the next four years eating rotten, overpriced food bought from rude people, but gets to carry them home in pretty blue bags.

"Once the Iraq war is over, and we have rebuilt their country, they will owe us.
They are very rich in oil, they will foot that bill, not us."

i do not think that is even marginally likely. i'm know expert, but i suspect we, Americans, will still be paying, at least, $3.50 a gallon for gas. their country will never be completely rebuilt. the ongoing process to rebuild their country will continue to be fed by our tax dollars. soon enough, we will need someone to dig us out of our own whole.

Middle East? The middle east has been at war for thousands of years BEFORE America was ever born! We can't concentrate on making them like us, it won't happen, they don't want to BE like us (but) many in the middle east would prefer to see the west blown off the planet... I for one will always remember 9/11 and crying as I watched my TV and the events unfold. Too many Americans are forgetful of that day. Do I think Obama is the man for a secure America? Not no but hell no.

Lisa L, when you mentioned that you were disappointed with Obama's running mate choice because Joe Biden does not match your "demographic," are you saying that you plan to vote for the ticket that looks most like you?? Assuming you would have voted for Obama if he had chosen Hillary, wouldn't it make most sense to vote for the candidate that would most likely ACT like Hillary rather than the one the LOOKS most like her. Besides being a white mother, Sarah Palin is the OPPOSITE of Hillary Clinton. I'm begging you, please use your head here and not vote simply out of your desire to see a woman in the white house. Don't worry -- if you are only 47 -- that will happen in your lifetime.

I like Michelle, and I'm really tired of people bad mouthing her.. You need to look at yourself before you put someone else down. She was just saying to people that they should make the choice that's in there best intrests. Most of the people who are pro McCain sound kind of crazy I haven't heard a logical or intelligent argument based on any kind of facts at all. Obama isn't a friend of John Ayers the guy wasn't even born yet when he was blowing up buildings. If you want a creepy old man who keeps saying "My Friends" "My Friends" and then lying through his teeth to be your president then go ahead be my guest! Who the hell says they are your friend and then lies to you again and again. I think Obama is way more capable and experience doesn't matter if it's experience making decisions over the years that got us into the awful place we are right now.

yea right: 95% of blacks polled are voting for obama. Because of issues. Now whos trying to sell you a bridge?

Well, Lisa L, Palin would like to overturn Roe vs Wade. Would you be okay with that?

At least they were able to keep Michelle muzzled for a while...

Perhaps she will tour the country signing copies of her Princeton senior thesis...

Or, perhaps Michelle could offer a tour of Rezko properties in the general vicinity of her estate...-

But, in all fairness, if I were married to someone who looked like Curious George, I would probably say the same thing...

As a 47 yr old woman, mother of two and business owner I have been a democrat all my voting life. I waited with baited breath for Obama to pick his running mate. Depressingly, what was chosen was an aging male who doesn't speak my language. Sarah Pallin is what we needed on OUR side. She is my demographic. As I find myself pondering the election, I will vote with my Party. But, Sarah makes it hard for me to even remember Obama's running mates name....is it Joe?

Yeah...to tell the truth, America sort of caused part of the mess.

Like all those groups of insurgents from which Al-Qaeda originated, the CIA trained them and funded them or some stuff to offer resistance against the Soviet Union or something during the Cold War. The whole Iran thing too. I'll admit the Carter admin messed everything up there by supporting a dictator.

One thing that's bugged me is things like the genocide in Darfur. Obama is someone who has strongly supported action to be taken against the Sudanese govt, I don't know about McCain. We said "Never Again" in Rwanda. Yet, the killing is going on before our eyes, once more.

Grey Matter, agreed. The middle east is mess. Personally, I don't think we should have been there in the first place.

The US and Europe were unstable themselves a few hundred years ago, rife with civil wars and bloody conflicts. We just evolved ahead of the rest. Then again, in ancient times, the ancient Chinese and Persian civilisations flourished while we were in the Dark Ages...

Well, even if the US can't please everyone in the world, I believe we can make less enemies.

True, there will be pockets of radicals out there. But we can dry up support for them by giving them less reasons to find fault with us. They feel the US victimised Iraqis. They feel the US unfairly sided with Israel over the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Palin said not so second-guess Israel-something we should never do. We may support them, but we cannot just close our eyes when Israel sometimes indiscriminately caused loss of civilian life.

Those places in the middle east, I think, for them to find peace will require a social evolution over a long time, which we will not be able to see happening right now.

zen, that's what polls do, they go up and down. They are unreliable.

Michelle made unnecessary comment.
This is her 2nd gaffe.

Already americans started to recognize Palin.
her favorablity is dropping and unfavorability is going up after 2 weeks.

Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Afganistan. . .
they will never be stable, ever.

That area of the world has been like that for centuries, and it will conitnue, for centuries.

I wish it were that easy in Iraq, but I don't see that happening anytime soon...

The surge has contained the violence for now, but in the long run, I don't think Iraq will be stable for a while.

If you look at our history and the history of European countries, the transition to democracy from theocracy, monarchy, dictatorship and whatnot was bloody and took place over hundreds of years in civil wars and conflicts. But yet our democracies are the most stable ones compared to Asian countries. No foreign interference helped throw out a rogue govt, our people rebelled themselves in the Anglo-American war.

In a democracy, you need many other institutions to support it. A free media is one. An open culture is another.

Such things cannot be transplanted, and I think that is the mistake we made. We underestimated the sectarian divisions that were hidden by Saddam's iron grip on power. Iraq was first under colonial rule, then under a dictatorship. People's mindsets also need to evolve to keep in step with the times to support a democracy. A sudden paradigm shift like what we did in Iraq has left it with shaky foundations.

In the US, we transitioned slowly ourselves without a sudden regime change. To rise up to fight and rebel, I think, people's mindsets had to believe in democracy, which is why the democratic institutions in our country are more strongly upheld and preserved.

No one will convince radical-Islam or Hamas to stop killing Americans or our allies. Not Barrack Obama, or John McCain. They are fighting a Holy War and it is their way or the high way.
Sorry to use a cliche, but that is what they believe.

We can not convince our enemies to stop hating us. I don't care who the president is. The best we can do as Americans is offer them a better way of life. If they choose to reject it, we brush off our feet, and move on.

If i want to choose between judgment vs. experience, I definitely choose judgment.

And for sure, in economy, Maccain has zero, or minus judgment.

Look which kind of advisers he has.... Phil Gramm was his economy Guru until he made a whiner comment.

Hmm...I don't know.

I do want a change from the whole approach the US has viewed the world. The whole problem of radical Islam. It's not black and white, but from what Palin said, it was "terrorists hell-bent on destroying America...", it seems pretty polarising. Obama had said that we had to recognize the different nuances of their intents, and that we couldn't just lump them all together.

I mean, I don't think everyone's out their to get America, they're just unhappy with how they feel America has imposed their will on them. McCain goes "I will be Hamas' worst nightmare!"

I don't need him to be anyone's worst nightmare. To stamp out radical Islam, we must have the support of moderate Muslims. I would like us to be able to win our enemies over so we won't have to start a war to get rid of them. In my opinion, if talking to the enemy is the way we can do that, I don't mind. We are in no way conceding to them, we are just fighting with words instead of guns.

Once the Iraq war is over, and we have rebuilt their country, they will owe us.
They are very rich in oil, they will foot that bill, not us.

Afganistan and Pakistan, that's another sstory.

Same old Joe.

That is a lot to think about, but I think Barrack Obama has distanced himself now from Hillary Clinton so much so that some of her ex-campaign staff are now supporting McCain.

I do not think Barrack is prepared for foreign policy, not that things are great now. But I think McCain is favored on that issue.

They're footing the trillion over dollar bill for Iraq though. And charging interest.

They'll be expecting us to pay back their loan.

China, won't be handing a bill to anyone. Unless they want our free trade agreement dissolved, which, will destroy their economy.

I don't know if the US (and the rest of the world too) can survive four more years of a snowballing deficit, an economy run into the ground and a streched military. There are other factors such as the rise of China and Russia.

Plus four more years is such a long time...

What's to say Obama won't give Hillary a position in his cabinet?

Are you the same Joe or another Joe? :o

As to the taxes, we have no choice. Somebody has to get rid of the deficit before China hands us a bill with more than twelve zeroes and counting.

At least, with govt regulation, they can limit profiteering. Plus McCain's plan only snowballs the deficit and does not alleviate at least a portion of it.

If we want to prepare for future conflicts with Iran/Russia, whatever, we need a strong economy to fund it. Any military in any country imposes a cost, and it needs to be paid for.

Grey Matter, understood. I think McCain will only be a four year term.
Hillary will run in 2012, and we will all be ok.

Joe, the President appoints the Supreme Court judges. And Palin could take over McCain-there's a chance.

Even then, I disagree with her stance that other women shouldn't be given a choice. Like I said, she has every right to be pro-life, but she has to remember America is a secular country. Not everyone is a Christian, not everyone shares her views.

I myself definitely don't support abortion-what I am for is a choice for women. At least, with Roe vs Wade, we can ensure the mother makes it out, instead of the days before legal abortion where many women lived in fear and both mother and child did not survive. In the case of rape, the woman is bearing the burden of carrying the child, she should have the choice. Even if the child is born, how would he/she feel as being the product of a rape? Would he/she have a quality life?

Omentum, I never mentioned Rev. Wright.

If your boss can't afford to pay their bills because of their taxes, how will they afford to pay you?

Joe

Yes troopergate...it is an issue. how do you handle problems... that is an issues.

trooper gate - you run from them ..... that is an issue - bad

rev wright - you address them ..... that is an issue - good

i am more confident in my vote now

OBAMA BIDEN

Grey Matter, it is true, historically Democrats are better for the economy than republicans. But Barrack Obama will raise taxes for the rich and for business, which will lead them to raise their prices on everything from Oil to Food, which will negate the tax break he gives to the 95% of us.

If Palin gets in Office she can't do anything about Roe v. Wade, that is a supreme court decision.

Yes, but Palin's views contradict many Hillary Clinton supporters. Roe vs Wade for one. In my opinion, Palin has the right to be pro-life if she wants, but not to force rape victims to carry the child of their assaulter. They may have been enraged over it for a while, but many will in the end look at what Palin and Hillary stand for and make a decision.

Women's top concerns are also the economy, and polls say more express confidence in Obama in handling that.

His race has nothing to do with it,
he is inexperienced.

Look - anyone who votes for Obama just because of his race is racist.

AND, anyone who votes for McCain because of his race is racist.

Time4Change to change your mind.

You McCain people are amazing! You seen to find all kinds of excuse for not voting for Barack Obama and nothing that you hear will change your mind. Not the fact that whatever comes out McCain or Palin mouth are lies, not the fact that he flip flops on positions in less than 24 hours, not the fact that the VP is under investigation, not the fact that the past 8 years have been unbareable for millions of Americans. Nothing can be done or said to make you really look at both candidates and vote for what is best for you. Why is that? If Barack was a white man, he would be ahead by 20 pts by now. Yes, it is true that Hillary voters will vote for McCain, even though they know he would be bad for the country, however, seeing an educated, problem solving, people first man with new and fresh ideas that will only benefit America. Barack and Hillary plans were so similar especially compared to McCain, however, some Hillary voters or typical Democrats will not vote for Barack. They will post comments about how it's not about color, however, we all know. There is no reason to lie to us, when you can't even lie to yourself. Some would rather enduere 4 more years of hardtimes, instead of realizing that Barack is an American that loves his country just like they love it. The only difference is he is black. And for all those who will lie about this fact isn't fooling anyone.

Grey Matter, you are correct about a lot of issues. And the vote from women will be critical, but I think the backlash from snubbing Hillary Clinton will at least be a wash.

yeah Omentum, issues please, so what about troopergate?

Don't worry. We see that. Plus since McCain chose Palin, several women's rights groups have been backing Obama/Biden.

Wonder why?

Maybe because they actually have a record for fighting for women's rights, such as the equal wages bill, bills to protect women from domestic violence and so on.

Omenutm, of course you heard all about those things. That's the great Obama proaganda machine at work. Anything but the real issues. We will see at the debates.

Joe

you are doing the witch hunt for me. just found that there is no story there with the blackwell

just more gop-style character assassination. hmmm to be expected. pathetic but expected.

so sad guys. issues please

American women pleasssse wake up and look at the issues. If McCain is elected, he will nominate supreme court judges for the SOLE purpose of overturning Roe v Wade. He will continue and expand on invading our privacy and quite frankly, our sons and daughters will continure to be killed. He is the canidate that sang the ditty, BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAQ to the tune of BA BA BA BARBARA ANN. For the sake of your chidren, great grandchildren please do NOT vote for McCain

has this guy made it to the MSM... SCHOOL ME JOE. WHO IS HE

I am sure he is not a significant character since I have never heard of him...

heard alot about keating five though

the carlyle group ... heard a lot about those things .. but you know they didn't stop mccain and his mentor gwb to become prominent individuals .... i am sure this guy you are talking about won't be a show stopper for obama either

Omentum, you don't know who Blackwell is and you sweep Rezko under the rug.

I think you need to investigate your candidate for President first, before you do a witch hunt.

Who is senator stevens.

Tony Rezko has no implications on Barrack Obama who received funds from him? I think Rezko is a criminal, is he not?

WHO IS BLACKWELL... .don't know

but I know who sara palin is (now I do) and I hear she is obstructing justice.

not good .. not good.

Joe, who are the Keating 5?

Tony Rezko

that is a slum lord in Chicago

His trial took place during the Primaries. Rememember. No implications on Obama (whether it was or wasn't really some ties there) it is put to bed and from a legal standpoint we move.

NOT SO FOR TROOPERGATE.
I wish troopergate could go forward too.

hmmmmm AMERICA IS WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON.

Palin talks about a nuclear war as casually as discussing the weather. How delightful! We are all just so eager to die from the nuclear fall out!

She talks about the NATO alliance as though it were a gang. "You hurt one of ours, and we're darn well going to beat the stuffing out of you." NATO is more aimed at DETERRENCE. It's not so simple, as though, "Damn! You shot one of us! That's it, we're calling in the calvary!"

Wars are no laughing matter and most countries including NATO members do their best to prevent one by using other methods first.

You fire the guy so you can put someone else in to do your dirty work. Believe me if she would not have gotten tapped to be vp. a year or so down the line (maybe soon) this new guy would have fired her ex-brother in law.

you can bet on it.

but now since so much attention is on it she can do it now

Omentum, who is Tony Rezko?

well Joe

lets proceed

it think Palin needs a little solidification of her integrity right now.

with her

bridge to nowhere lie
ebay lie
mansion cook lie

and her

bush doctrine flub
georgia unprovoked flub
"see russia from her house" foreign experience.

SO JOE LETS PROCEED. I want to see her succeed. honestly. I REALLY DO. but if she is a flake. SORRY. NEXT!

Or, omentum, Joe Biden is not the right choice for VP, is he?

I guess Michelle OBama can spout trash from the handlers just like her husband.
The little enuendo just under the surface. What a joke these folks are.

Joe

If you know Joe..... you would know he try to be as cordial and respectful and does this by putting himself down.

you know that. come on.

Omentum, the answers you will get from troopergate are not the answers you are expecting. Those answers are only going to solidify Palin's integrity.

She offered the guy a job that didn't have any financial responsibilities, he declined. That is the answer.

What happened to her emails, Oh! there wasn;t evidence, story dropped.

Just like troopergate.

debates, omentum, debates.

Yes, Joe Biden is normally self-deprecating in a good natured way, like how he said Palin was good-looking (in comparison to himself) but the McCain campaign twisted it out of context into a "sexist" remark.

Now could you tell me how decreasing the amount of taxes paid will help us get rid of the govt deficit, pay for Iraq or future conflicts?

Omentum, it sounds like you are still trying to convince yourself about Joe Biden. He wasn't the best pick.

Joe Biden said it himself.

I WANT ANSWERS TO TROOPERGATE.

I would never vote for someone who obstructs justice. She said she would cooperate but pull this excuse out of this air and flipflops on her word.

she is a governor of a state. it is astonishing that the media is tiptoeing around this woman. she has proven to be a bare knuckle fighter ... she took on her own party and "SHOOK" things up in alaska. Now how does she become the damsel in distress being attacked by the big bad wolf. please people look under palins fleece. you will see who the wolf is.

it is funny when you talk about barack speeches and the tele prompt just this week alone Mccain should have kept his mouth shut just look at the polls. Republicans has hurt america for the past 8 years it is time for a new look in the white house.

The more she tries to stall the investigation, the more people think she has something to hide.

The best way would be to let it proceed, and since she didn't do anything wrong, clear her name, no?

And it says something when a bipartisan committee consisting of Republican and Democratic senators voted 12-0 to proceed with the investigation.

Palin, offered the one who got fired another position, he declined.

That's all that they will find.

They are delaying only because it is a distraction from what is important.

Look, experience has to be coupled with judgement. McCain doesn't seem to have that, while Obama does.

Now, if you read Hillary's policies, you would find they have a lot more in common with Obama's-there are differences, but there's far more in common- as opposed to McCain's.

Joe.

I think Biden was the smart pick and still do.

But Ms. Wasilla NO.

She is crumbling before our eyes.

What does she have to hide JOE. why is she being protected from the media JOE

Why won't she participate in the troopergate investigation and prove to the world that she is above board. why wont hubby participate... what's the problem..... dont she know by not addressing the cloud still looms over her head.

this tells me that there was some corruption going on there because this course of action of not participating would be less of two evils.

she came on the scene full of lies and now she is obstructing justing.

sound like the present adminsitration to me.

happy voting joe.

Hillary knows having a showdown with Palin will only give her more undeserved publicity and detract from IMPORTANT issues.

And Hillary simply is above making petty attacks that Palin probably wants so she can either play victim again or self-righteously slam Obama for making use of Hillary.

Grey Matter, I would have voted for Hillary Clinton any day of the week, over either of the candidates. She has the experience to lead the country.
Way more experience than Obama. The Dems got it wrong.

Omentum, debates, wait for the debates.

You can't wait, remember?

Judgement call, Hillary with 18 million votes or Joe Biden. Hmmmm. . .

What a call!

Joe, from what I see and hear about Hillary Clinton, she would make a great president, but not a vice-president. She's more of a leader in her own right, and she herself, it seems to me, may not be someone who would want to accept the VP role. She'd have to fall in line with Obama, and Obama probably knew that that wouldn't be good for either of them. They'd most likely end up arguing over policies, since some of their viewpoints are different-not to the extent in comparison with McCain, though.

Now about your country first thing, sure, Obama could've picked Hillary if he wanted to make sure he won, to hell with whether that would be good in the long run. But he didn't.

If Obama were sexist and looked down on Hillary, I don't think he would've any qualms about using her as VP to win the election.

Joe

Hillary said

No way No how
No McCain
No Palin

doesn't sound like an endorsement to me.

Not even Hillary will put down Sarah.

That's respect.

Joe

Experience is good but Judgement is GREAT.

26 YEARS in washington and he still don't know much about the economy (he said that) not OBAMA

it appears he needs a goverment 101 course because he's trying to fire people he don't have the authority to fire.

just admit it ... the guy is so out of touch he don't have a clue. when you dont know how many houses you have and it takes something like this past week to get him to realize that we are in trouble to address the matter. AND GUESS WHAT. he still ..FOR THE 16TH TIME say the economy is strong

what a looney. sooory ... happy voting for you... go ahead ...

somebody in your state that's smarter than you turned 18 today. they will nullify your vote.