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I predict that McCain will drop Palin after the election. He just wants to win; he's not thinking she can run the country....really. How could he choose someone with less time serving something larger than a town than Obama served the state of Illinois? I think the Republicans are kidding themselves that credentials don't matter--and certainly McCain will either sideline Gov. Palin after the election (if he wins) reducing Cheney's job back to its ambassadorial role, or cut her. It's got to be flattering to be picked, but the Republicans have said with their choice of Palin that Anyone can do the job of the Vice-President. This is like watching oil workers become astronauts in two weeks on Armageddon. It's insulting to think that anyone who had no idea what a VP did a month ago could step forward as someone competent for the job. If that's how things are done, hey I want to be McCain's heart specialist. Or Guilliani's divorce lawyer. Or Palin's babysitter. Maybe qualifications would matter then.

To anyone who thinks Obama did anything in the Illinois legislature, please do some homework. He did nothing. Being a sponsor on a bill just means he added his name to the list.

What was that, sally? It wasn't hard at all to find examples of Obama being bipartisan, and quotes of Republicans and Democrats and independents endorsing him because of being bipartisan.

What would be impossible, sally, is for you to describe Sarah Palin as bipartisan. She was a divisive, partisan, un-American embarrassment to McCain. American is George Washington, who hated political parties. American is Abe Lincoln, the great uniter.

McCain had some bipartisan credentials -- that's right I'm happy to credit him, with respect, for what he is due -- until he chose Palin for VP and had her deliver that divisive speech. McCain has chosen to divide America, putting his party first and our country last.

Un-American is the political party Todd and Sarah Palin supported and which he registered with until 2002: the separatist Alaskan Independence Party which wants to rip a star off our flag. Un-American is Palin's insulting, condescending tone in response to Obama and Biden treating her with decency.

sally I would be happy to treat you with decency just the same, to respect your statements here, if only you had made any statement aside from your unfounded imagination that it was difficult to find evidence of Obama as a bipartisan. Again, it was easy to find evidence, so easy that I'm happy to offer you more, free of charge:

"Obama worked with Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom Coburn on the Coburn-Obama bill. The bill set up a database that tracks where federal dollars are being spent and which contractors receive federal funding."

That's right, it was popularly known as the Coburn-Obama Bill. sally I do wonder why you would come here to ABC News and post lies which are so easily disproved, suggesting Obama is not bipartisan.

Indeed the point of this legislation is to make Washington, DC more accountable for the money being lobbied for and sent to states like Alaska and villages like Wasilla, Alaska, where hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars were lobbied for by Sarah Palin.

If you're an extremist and you like business as usual in Washington, like Keating Five lobbying and loan scandals and lobbyists and infidelity, then maybe you voted for the Clintons and McCain-Palin is definitely your ticket, this go around. Divide and conquer! Never mind what is good for this nation, win at all costs!

If you're a mainstream Republican, mainstream Democrat, or mainstream American, you'll find more common decency, stronger family values, and less partisanship from Obama-Biden.

The McCain camp obviously doesn't have a lot of confidence with Palin, like Hart. According to Time online, she won't be doing anymore interviews. It looks like she'll be keeping company with the image makers and readings for most of the campaign.

How did the "Lugar-Obama Act" which was an update of the "Nunn-Lugar bill"....
become the "Obama-Lugar Act"?????

hmmmmmm...

Brian:

Your information came from a person who has sent derisive letters before...
Yet Sarah's approval rating is still the highest in the nation!

Is it possible that a little too much credibility is leaning on ONE PERSON's input?

Did anyone "vette" the letter writer?

Gary Hart should apply his standards to the Democrat candidate too. According to his standards, Barack Obama shouldn't have been nominated. Gary Hart proved that he only looks at women as playthings by his own actions, so there are no woman that rise to his standards.

brian, If that is the only example you can come up with of Obama the "bipartisan" it is not very impressive, sorry, I know you are trying very hard. Just does not cut the mustard.

Sorry tim, I misread your earlier post.

To your actual point then, Sen. Obama has given Sen. Nunn a lot of credit on many occasions, and Nunn has returned the favor by crediting and endorsing Obama for his critical role in the Senate. Again tim, although this time with respect to Nunn rather than Lugar, you do not need to look very far to find evidence that you are wrong to criticize Obama on this point. Obama is a genuine bi-partisan warrior in the U.S. Senate (as he was in the Illinois Senate for multiple terms, before).

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Nunn, who chaired the Senate Armed Services Committee from 1987 to 1995, called Obama "the best choice to lead our nation".

Both Nunn and Boren will serve on the Illinois senator's National Security Foreign Policy Team.

BG

Obama said on O'Reilly “Obama: Surge Succeeded Beyond ‘Wildest Dreams’” What?
I just don't know where Obama is coming from anymore.

erin...he was involved in either writing or sponsoring over 4000 bills in the Illinois Senate and over 100 in the US Senate. You need to remember how our government works. Sometimes it takes years to get bills passed and even longer when you are in the minority party. Obviously Obama has been involved in less than McCain but the ones he's been involved in are major and important legislation.

I am reading these posts on what bills Obama co-authored vs co sponsored. The bottom line is that all Obama supporters can come up with is one bill in the US and two bills in the illinos Senate that Obama had a lot to do with. not very impressive for someone running for President.

thank you mary.

brian, I Did not say anything about Obama giving Lugar credit. What I said is that Obama has not given Nunn any credit for his work as the co-author of Lugar-Nunn bill. The Lugar-Obama bill is an update of the Lugar-Nunn bill. The original point is that Obama has not been an author of any legislation. Co-sponsor is not the same as co-author. Facts are stubborn thing.

terry...unlike Palin, Obama knows that the banning of books is illegal according to the Constitution of the United States. Remember he taught Constitutional Law. Palin apparently doesn't know what the Constitution says or thinks it doesn't applies to her. And the story about her trying to ban books and fire the librarian is true.

Sorry terry, but you're wrong to suggest Obama is trying to ban any books. There is a significant difference between banning a book and criticizing a book.

Obama has criticized some books for not being well enough researched. It's his opinion and he is entitled to it.

Palin tried to abuse her power to ban books from the library in her town of 4,000 residents (when she was mayor, now there are 9,000 residents).

When the librarian refused to ban the books, Palin threatened to fire her. The people of the town came to the librarian's defense, and Palin failed to fire her, but that Palin tried to get books banned and people fired is well documented.

Now, Palin is under investigation for illegal abuse of power in more than one case, one as mayor and two as governor.

Palin is as divisive now as she was then, right at the time America needs to be united. Obama/Biden: country first!

RCP shows the new CBS poll -- Obama and McCain tied.

Freedom on Speech -- Obama's thugs tried to sue to stop the release of the Anneburg Challange Papers ---

And Obama finally ----

"The troop surge in Iraq has been more successful than anyone could have imagined, Barack Obama conceded Thursday in his first-ever interview on FOX News’ “The O’Reilly Factor.”

kellyanne:
"Sorry, she used "First Dude" when referring to her husband. I just updated the quote in deference to McCain...."

Sorry...... my foot!

She described McCain's wife Cindy, a woman who is a stateswoman in her own right and who has generously given of her money and herself for eons, a name that begins with a "b" and ends with an "o".... which spells B O ... which was not the name she was called ...but which DOES identify you leader.

For the doubters, the trip was in August of 2005. All I did was search "Obama Lugar Russia". You McCain people really need to get up to speed on the internet.

jennie, If anyone is into banning books, its Obama. Obama and his thugs are busily trying to smear the author of the Obama Nation, Corsi, so no one will buy his book.

Sorry Tim but you're wrong about Obama giving Lugar credit, and Lugar giving Obama credit, for working together to pass major, bipartisan legislation to protect America while in the U.S. Senate.

You don't have to look far for the proof either, Tim. See here, with quotes from each that prove Obama's bipartisan credentials and with Obama discussing which Republicans he would consider for his cabinet, if elected.

This is an incredible contrast to the divisive, partisan, indecent, and truly anti-American Sarah Palin and John McCain. George Washington, Abe Lincoln, and a long list of great Americans fought and worked for centuries against the supremacy of political parties. What we heard from Palin and from McCain for choosing her: they do not put country first. BG

Here's what factcheck says about Obama's record:
Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

I feel like this blog lives in the woods for years, and comes out into an internet cafe to post its hallucinations. Gary has the common sense that most of you do not, to say how it is, where any semi intelligent person sees this as completely irresponsible, and frightening that someone like Sarah Palin might become commander in chief. I began to watch the rnc with an open mind, hoping to get inspired, but instead I felt like I was watch some twilight show for mental nuts trying to elect their cave leader, and not a national convention introducing a potential p and vp of one of the more poweful nations on earth. Its absolutely frightening to the safety of all Americans and the world, when considering the possibility of Palin being in the office. It is an insult to any human being on this planet, to suggest that someone like Sarah Palin is remotely qualified to be the VP, a total insult!

Mary, There is a big difference between "co-sponsors" which is how the Lugar-Obama bill is described in the legislation and "co-authors" which is how the Lugar-Nunn bill is described in the legislation. The Lugar-Obama bill is an UPDATE of the Lugar-Nunn bill so much of the bill that Obama "co-sponsored" NOT co-authored, was already done. You Obama supporters are really grasping at straws when you try and give credit to Obama for something he clearly did not Co-Author according to the official record.

mary:

"And Lugar and Obama actually went to Russia and several other nuclear weapons sites to do research for the bill."

You obviously know something some of us are having a hard time finding!

WHEN did he go?

I'm all ears???????????

Since when did Gary Hart command the respect for anyone to quote what he has to say.

Hart has no credibilty since he blew his chances at the Presidency by boating with his mistress and getting caught on film.

The DemocRATS are exhibiting sheer desperation in their attempts to slow down the Sarah Palin convention surge.

Anybody But Obama...

Palin should have been tapped for George W. Bush's cabinet. She has all the credentials...let's see...Librarian won't ban books...fire her (so what about the Constitution). Police Chief isn't a member of NRA...fire him. Town Councilors aren't pro-life...fire them. Safety Commissioner won't fire my ex brother-in-law...fire him. She would fit right in.

Gee, egads,

Sorry, she used "First Dude" when referring to her husband. I just updated the quote in deference to McCain....

Mary, Not so fast, Obama should have given Sam Nunn much of the credit for the Lugar-Obama Act which was an UPDATE, of the Nunn-Lugar bill. So my original point still stands, Obama has not written any legislation, he just got his name put on an updated bill.

Lugar and Obama co-sponsored legislation to update the Nunn-Lugar program. The resulting law, which expands the nonproliferation program for nuclear arms to conventional weapons and WMDs, is called the Lugar-Obama Act,

'Nunn and Lugar are co-authors of the 1991 Cooperative Threat Reduction Act, which is designed to provide financial assistance to accelerate the collection and dismantlement of nuclear weapons in the former Soviet

Now, Obama supporters are taking Gary Hart seriously...Gary Hart???

Presidential candidate ruined by sex scandal Gary Hart???

You can put Gary Hart in the same can with Bill Richardson and Barack Obama.

Shake the three up and pull one out.

Not much difference.

MaryLou...apparently you didn't watch the Democratic Convention.

Jill..so you know the truth and Senator Lugar doesn't? Wow, you McCain supporters are really smart!
And Lugar and Obama actually went to Russia and several other nuclear weapons sites to do research for the bill. So Obama has actually visited Russia, not just lived near it.

Mary, As is typical of Obama, he takes credit for something that others spent years working on. Lugar & Nunn spent years working on this bill than Obama shows up and gets his name put on the bill. That's the truth.

Why is it that McCain and Palin have people from their past who are willing to stand up and vouch for them? Where are the people from Obama's past that can tell us who he is and what he's done? Oh right, we already know who they are - William Ayers, Rev. Wright, Tony Rezko, Rashid Khalidi... 'nuff said!

Mary, Madison, one of our founding Fathers, Father of the Constitution and fourth President of the United States never stepped foot on any foreign soil. So what is your point? Truth is back in Madison's day, Europe was much more powerful and prominent as compared to today.

McCain/Palin run rings around Obama/Biden.

McCain has better judgment and Palin has more executive experience.

Don't believe me? Just look at the flailing attacks from the left ever since she was announced as VP. They're scared... and they should be.

Tim...why don't you ask Republican Senators Lugar and Colburn about Obama's record? They worked on bills with him and they aren't denying that he did. In fact when Obama made an ad that talked about him writing the Nuclear Non-proliferation bill with Lugar (that's now a law), they asked Lugar if it was factual and he said it was. If you want to continue lying about Obama's record...go ahead. McCain lies about it, Palin lies about it, why shouldn't their supporters lie about it.

Good job Mr. Gary Hart for your comment on putting down Ms. Palin - a Democrat brand indeed. But before I believe you are indeed honest and genuine in your assessment, you deliberately omitted why your candidate is better, more qualified and experienced as Ms. Palin does. He's been on the limelight for Presidency for more than a year now and I haven't heard or read why do I need to vote for him - for CHANGE? CHANGE for WHAT? A change in political history that a non-qualified, non-experienced SENSATION got to the oval office?
What has he accomplished as a public servant in the senate? Could you please spell out even just for 1? How about Mr. Biden? He was trampled down in the early stage of the primary. The people believed that he's not even qualified.
Don't fool us that because he's a great orator he can deliver. Show Mr. Obama's credentials and records that he can deliver. Some media commentators is pointing to his ability to manage his campaign organization... perhaps including managing his donors.
If you can tell me why do I need to vote for him at least based on the criteria that you laid out for Ms. Palin, then probably I may vote for him. But if you cannot do it but simply talk just like Mr. Obama we are not fools.
Perhaps you're just undermining her because you believe that beautiful women like her belongs only in bed naked so you can bring down your pants just like John Edwards and Bill Clinton.

Indy-voter

Not preposterous at all....How much did you actually know about B O B before acclaiming him your messiah?

How much does public know even NOW about him?

AT LEAST Sarah has some HISTORY upon which she can be vetted.

She has earned the highest approval rating of a state governor, and that's nothing to be sneezed at!

And when you talk about "the enormous holes in HER resume" .....be certain not to mention "the enormous holes" in Barack's since that would DEFINITELY be a can of worms you will NOT want to confront!

On what basis is B O more prepared to lead than Palin?

Because he's a man?

Has he ever run anything other than a race?

Has he ever run a business?

Even when he had the opportunity to lead the subcommittee on Afghanistan, Obama chose never to even hold a meeting!

The only thing he seems to excell in running...... is his mouth!

Palin on the other hand has run a municipality and governed a state!

She has brought in money by selling the state's Governor's jet on E-bay... which shows a modicum of creativity.

She gave up another job "perk" in the form of a live-in "chef"....which, depending on her cooking skills, might be termed a lesson in fortitude!

She has faced familial issues this week with ideals and guts and spunk.... issue which might have laid another parent m i g h t y low.

Hopefully the media is no longer as "in the tank for Obama" as it has been, and will at least use an open mind in vetting Sarah Palin.

Hopefully, the media is no longer " as in the tank for Obama" as it has been, and will at least use an open mind in FINISHING THE VETTING OF OBAMA!

I don't think supporters of Miss "I got my first passport in 2007 at age 43 and I visited Ireland, and stopped in Germany on my way to Kuwait and I've got foreign relations experience becuase Alaska's next to Russia" should talk.

Mary, Obama may have a nice list of good sounding job titles. Problem is there is no there there. Other than getting a lot of star struck people to vote for him, Obama has a track record of zero accomplishments. What this really says about Obama, is that once Obama gets the job he is after, he does virtually nothing with it. No academic papers, no articles, no accomplishments as a community worker, no written legislation, nothing.

The teleprompter brooke from all the pit bull lipstick on it.

BTW, any dog breeder will tell you there is no such thing as a "pit bull," too.

She read a speech. Big deal.

She's also full of it.

I hear a bus warming up. It's the Straight Talk Express, revving up to go over the cliff. The GOP bus will follow after running over Panama John and The Homecoming Queen's Got a Gun.

Below are a list of very critical questions that the media is not asking Obama.

Does Obama plan to disarm America and dismantle our nuclear arsenal?

What is Obama's connection with a corrupt crook and convicted felon, Rezco and did he support any of Rezco slum lord deals at any time?

Does Obama supports sex education for Kindergarten?

Did Obama seek the endorsement of the Marxist Party in 1996?

Is Obama for banning guns or not?

What exactly is Obama relationship with unrepentant anti-American terrorist, Ayers?

What was Obama's role in the failed Annenberg Challenge that Ayers founded, and whose pockets did the 110 million dollars go into from the fund including the 60 million dollars that was public funding?

Have any terrorist organizations held fundraisers for Obama?

What is Obama’s ties to Kenya and his cousin Odinga?

Did Obama run on the socialist, pro-PLO party.

Does Obama's staff include anti-Israel advisers?

"He has actually lived in foreign countries. He has traveled the world."
..... he has not traveled the world ... and he lived in Indonesia at age 8 or 10 ... you are really stretch .......ing ..
admit it ... you are terrified that Palin's attacks are the truth!!

"all you libs can walk with Obama on his journey of self discovery ... but I don't think he will be doing it at the White House!"

Ha! Great line.

"Ryan C -- the CBS poll is on the CBS news website....D'oh!"

He's furiously trying to figure out how to spin it. Or waiting for the text from Barry's campaign.

"She was really bad, horrible. It was like watching someone speak at prom"

Sorry that she didn't put on airs for you.

For all those people claiming Obama has no qualifications you are just ignorant. Obama was an Illinois State Senator for 8 years and has been a US citizen for 3. He has worked with Democrats and Republicans, writing bills that became laws to make our country safer for us and our children. He wrote bills that became laws to make our government more transparent. He was a community organizer (something that used to be honorable until Palin and Guiliani decided that it's not--notice that you won't find any kind of "service" in their bios). He taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. He has degrees from 2 of the most well-respected universities in world. His degrees are in International Relations, Political Science, and Law. He graduated with honors. He has actually lived in foreign countries. He has traveled the world. In the past 19 months he has been to every single state in this country (except not sure about Alaska) and has talked to people in their homes and businesses about what is going on in their lives. He is on the Democratic Presidential ticket because over 18 million people voted to put him there. He is a man of humility, integrity and honor. He is a family man. As far as I'm concerned he is the most qualified person running for President, more qualified than McCain and Palin (because I think she thinks she's running for President).

all you libs can walk with Obama on his journey of self discovery ... but I don't think he will be doing it at the White House!

So, are we agreeing that McCain is over his post tramatic stress disorder? and he is ready to run the country and not implement the draft to complete the next 100 yrs of war he want to keep going? Have any of you american put thought that this man will or may bring the draft back.

Ryan C -- the CBS poll is on the CBS news website....D'oh!

Oh, and Ashley Biden, daughter of Joe, was just arrested for obstructing a police officer. Goodness, now do you think the MSM will be responsible and balanced and report on this with the zeal and venom they reported on Palin's husband getting a dui 24 years ago? Or about Palins' daughter? Just watch and see if the MSM can live down to our expecations of them.

At least KellyAnne is not clueless.

She was really bad, horrible. It was like watching someone speak at prom

I don't know why the McCain campaign complains about the media... I mean Palin's speech was HORRIBLE and most are saying it was great... they should be happy with their friends in the media and stop complaining... oh get ready for tonight... MCCAIN IS GOING TO WAGE war with Russia.... what a smart idea no?

McCain/Palin... help bring the end of the world!!!

"83,000 American of all walks of life show up to hear Obama's history making speech laying out his vision for America."

Great concert. Loved the faux-Greek temple.

As a female who is the elected head of a major organization with a membership magnitudes more than Alaska and a budget to match, I am apalled at the "cutesy" speech that Palin gave. The Hottie buttons make me ill. Not exactly the way to gain respect. Vice president is serious job and she is treating it like a church social. I notice she conveniently forgets to mention that as Mayor of a town with fewer members than one of my organization's chapters, she had an administrator to do the work. The role of the mayor is largely ceremonial and all she had to do was show up without runs in her hose and her hair combed.....no brainpower involved.
The fact that she chose to bring a special need child into the world and is now palming it off on others when the baby needs family most, tells a lot about her. I am strongly in favor of working mothers, but there are circumstances that have to be addressed. The first 18 months for a Downs child is critical and it needs both parents and as much family as it can get involved on a day to day basis. If the child were slightly older, it would be a different story. Notice that the timing of the oldest daughter's pregnancy coincides with the special needs child. If that is not a cry for attention, what it? I am sorry, if you chose to have a complex family, you cannot just dump it and move on. That baby need the entire family and the young girl needs a mother, not a politician.
If this is the way the Republicans court the Hillary vote, they have really missed the whole point of Hillary's candidacy. I guess all non-white-males look alike......
I agree with Peggy Noonan - at least Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Olympia Snow would have shown women respect. NOPE, Bimbo and Second Dude will have to look elsewhere for votes.

"While Obama has already made in roads."

Yes we really need a leader that is not afraid to apologize to everyone.

83,000 American of all walks of life show up to hear Obama's history making speech laying out his vision for America.

8000 Overfed, overage WASP's turn out for a canned, sarcastic and divisive speech by a fundie wacko and the GOP base is bragging? Priceless.

The libs are getting cornered and the noose is tightening, so they are lashing-out with everything they've got. They can make all the arguments they want, but they will not defeat this woman or John McCain. Obama is an empty suit and with every attack on Palin, the libs and pundits expose Obama even more.

"He was well received in Europe."

I'm sure he was.

McCain talks about restoring our image around the world (apparently by being a belligerent with no use for allies or the uN, worked great the last 8 years)

While Obama has already made in roads.

But maybe you were one of those jingoistic people who loves their freedom fries so you could care less how the world percieves us or how hypocritical our talk of democracy and freedom looks compared with our actions

To the decent american who spoke about, showing OBAMA the way out before he steals something...sounds just like poor white,redneck trash. OOoooppsss...there I go,I have stooped to your level. Well this is America, Freedom of speech. PEACE!

"This will be a crash and burn experience. Be patience, you can run but you can't hide. Sooner or later, this lady will have to take questions from real journalists'

Yes US magazine and Vanity Fair.

ryanc ... so Obama Campaign got 8m ... they spent 3m on the sports stadium ... which has now become a symbol of the spend, spend, spend ... liberal philosophy!
... by the way ... I am a Clinton Democrat ... voting for Hillary in 2012!!!

We are moving more in the wrong direction after 8 years of George Bush with just one "speech" by Palin... imagine if they end up in the whitehouse....

And, I am a "hockey mom" too and I can't stand Palin and her conservative views.

""Palin's speech meanwhile had ratings of over 37 million, just one million short of obama, and he was on 4 more networks than she was!"

He was not on more networks."

He was well received in Europe.

"Palin's speech meanwhile had ratings of over 37 million, just one million short of obama, and he was on 4 more networks than she was!"

He was not on more networks.

"Palin's teleprompter broke, but you would have never noticed it."

It did not break that is bs being passed around by the McCain campaign.

"And....CBS news poll, out today, show Mccain and Obama TIED! Obama lost an 8 point lead in 2 days! And this was taken BEFORE the historic and classic Palin speech!"

Gotta link? No one seems to have that poll

Anyone could have given the speech Palin gave... it was like she was reading from a dairy... "my life as a crazy conservative" It's easy to attack people... harder to lift them up.

Does anyone else notice that the Obama campaign is trying to use "fear" to win this election? That is when they aren't using those awful "wedge issues" Obama warned us against.

O'Bush III is at the top of the Dem ticket!!

iPredict:-)

This will be a crash and burn experience. Be patience, you can run but you can't hide. Sooner or later, this lady will have to take questions from real journalists--although, I would guess that her first interview will be with Rush Limbaugh or Sean Insanity.

I guess Americans are not stupid enough to let someone who hasn't answered any question about her competence and her qualification become the next vice president of the US.

Don't you think that a President who ranked 5th from the bottom of his graduating class and is proud of it, would want someone who is unqualified to be his Vice President?

You conservatives are crazy and even if you win election after election after election you will NEVER truly win... why? Because there will never be a time in this world where people live only ONE WAY. That will never happen... so who cares who wins.

"Obama is not ready to be President".

Courtesy of:

-Joe Biden
-Hillary Clinton
-Jimmy Carter

thank you.

marylou,
So McCain and Palin are mavericks. What exactly does that mean and what policies will they pursue that shows they are going to be mavericks. Is the primary theme of their campaign going to be a fight against corporate and government corruption? I see nothing in anything McCain has stated thus far in the campaign that he is going to take on special interests and make it a primary focus of his administration. Maybe he will. Maybe he won't. But right now he is too busy pandering to party loyalists.

So Obama raises a huge amount of money in less than 24 hours.

The right wing response?

Complaints about money spent on the Dem convention (as if the GOP was some free event).

A statement inflating Palin's draw and shortening the time line

Then a muttering that money won't win the election.

$8M in less than 24 hours.

Thanks for firing up the troops Palin!

Ok, I have to shift gears. Someone posted a talking points list for rebutting points against Palin. Apparently the reference was deleted by the moderator but it included this on Creationism:

PALIN: "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both. And, you know, I say this, too, as the daughter of a science teacher. Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject -- creationism and evolution. It's been a healthy foundation for me. But don't be afraid of information and let kids debate both sides."

The problem, Sarah, is Creationism isn't up for debate. This is junk science. Regardless of your beliefs, it has no basis in science and your Mom should have taught you that. ANY system that assumes first cause is automatically NOT science because science is not a set of facts or a belief, it is a method of proof. First cause systems are automatically eliminated precisely because they cannot be proven by any kind of test. Even Intelligent Design fails on that single requirement of logic.

To remain competitive, we have to emphasize an education that is strong in science and leave theology to the comparative religion classes or philosophy classes, but please don't try to buttress faith with science. Faith does not need science even if doing science requires some faith in our ability to produce results.

Seriously, this is where your candidacy goes off the rails and the left can pin you to the wall like a fly. My employers from India teach their children combinatorics at age ten. How do expect us to compete if we are filling our kids' heads not with faith, which I do endorse, but superstitious nonsense dressed up as science?

Don't do it. It is an automatic fail to get elected.

Another loser with a loser opinion. Who cares what he thinks.

Mary

It is not that the obama supporters are scared because their candidate might lose...

Obama supporters may be scared at the actual irresponsible act...and that this woman who has absolutely no recorded judgement or recorded knowledge or grasp of the issues that we face...(outside a mixed situation on ethics and them calling her assistance in building a pipeline as BP was paying for her inauguration as "energy expertize" ugh)

Coupled with the fact that she is not being allowed to answer questions and only spoke someone else's words in 2 speeches...

yeah that might make any American who is actually paying attention "scared"

Irresponsible? That doesn't begin to describe what McCain did in choosing her. Do you hear a toilet flushing? Yep, that's the sound of the republican party going down the toilet.