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Whoa goin' call...? Hey Hey The NRA

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Billy Joel

isn't it interesting how gun control is the answer. just like in Chicago where handgun bans are some of the most stringent in country. a little research shows between Labor day & Memorial day of this year 123 people died due to guns in that city. i'm sure the victums appreciate their governments concern for their safety

just remember you lefties your speech can be silenced too. once Obama opens pandora's box it will effect everyone. one thing is for sure. show us conservatives how to use legal means to shut you up and i will be more than willing to use the same tactics Obama employs against you. the law once precedent is set can be used against you too.

I have been a loyal member of the NRA for years. If there was a gun ban, would the criminals and the gangs give up their guns? Of course they wouldn't? In the large cities the gangs would take over and and the law biding citizens who gave up their guns could not defend themselves. I cannot believe anything that Obama says or does. I do not trust him.

come on beck, this thread isn't about your job or your pay check. remember NAFTA? you can thank BILL CLINTON for that one. it sure wasn't the republicans that shipped your job out of the country.

Can McCain sue for the all the false ads from the Obama campaign and 527s that support him? If not, then he should stop whining about his hurt feelings and try actually leading for a change.

THE GUILTY DOG ALWAYS BARKS

Danny states

freedom of speech is not a lisence to lie and libel. He is a constitutional scholar and he is acting responsibly, unlike the GOP/NRA.

(I think you mean license)

Obamma is not a constitutional scholar. He is a "politician" who belives that he can make anything written into what he wants it to say.
His comments on the meaning of the second amendment are proof positive of his total ignorance of the meaning and motive of the constitution. A quick reading of the Madison Papers would have told him everything he did not want to know. Are you really that gullible ?? This is about the same kind of dirty politics he used to get elected in Chicago. Don't run against those who oppose you, get them off of the ticket. Obamma is a liar, and only those who would vote for a yellow dog if it was a democratic would believe anything he says. Bobble Heads for Obbbbbbammmma

Jessica states
I am an independent voter and my vote could go either way. But you can't persuade me to vote for Bush Jr...McCain

Ah, sure, she is an "independent voter"
just like obamma has told the truth about his stand on guns.

It is this kind of democratic duplicity wwhich is especially galling.
I won't even try to confuse you with facts, as the democratic party has made up your mind for you.

The NRA has proven that the ads are factual. Factcheck is an organization that is supported by the same folks that support brady bill backers. Obama's voting record(the times he didn't vote "Present") in IL is totally anti gun even though he says he supports gun owners rights.

"Has the McCain campaign attempted to take down Obama ads through legal intimidation? No."

Neither has the Obama campaign attempted to take down McCain ads through legal intimidation.

Obviously, Obama and his people believe the NRA is a much greater threat to the campaign than McCain is.

If factcheck.org is non-partisan why is it fully funded by the Annennberg Foundation which also funded Williams Ayers and Obama's Annennberg challenge?
They are.

They've debunked the Obama campaign's claims in the past.

It surprised many of us that they were sloppy in their attempted refutation of the NRA ads.

"you have a duty 'to protect the public from false, misleading or deceptive advertising.'"
So TV stations should not run 95% of political ads?

The same FactCheck.Org which countered the NRA ads (though not accurately), also debunked claims in Obama campaign ads.

I read the NRA'S rebuttal to the FactCheck.org piece.

It is amazing that they were so sloppy, especially as they are not in the tank for Obama and have in the past debunked claims in Obama campaign ads.

Obama is an attorney so it shoulodn't surprise anyone that his campaign will try to use legal means to stop certain things from getting aired. I have seen his voting record on the Second Amendment and it's scary. I understand that people are concerned about gun violence and I understand people want senisble legistation; however, the 40,000 plus gun related laws in the US aren't enforced as they should be. Now this abuse of the First Amendment is even more alarming. Frankly, I would vote for Obama if he wasn't sooooo anti-Constitutional. At these sen. McCain nows what it is like to defend the US Constitution instead of shredding it. As far as that post goes about the oil and gas prices, come on people!!! Last time I checked the DEMS were in charge of Congress and the gas prices went up not down. The President only has limited powers. Congress runs the show. Also, regardless of your party, both sides are getting rich off the oil. Obama had gotten money form oil companies as well. And as far as this economic crisis!!! I was at the mall yesterday and everyone was eating out and shopping at some pretty expensive stores. SO is the economy that bad??? Also, I lost my house after I left the military as an Officer b/c my pay got cut in half; I tried everything to save my house but the bank would not budge. I even used all of my savings; my load was a traditional 30 yr fixed. They point here is that I don't blame the government for me foreclosure. Please wake up and don;t listen to the media but rather investigate several sources of info. and don't vote by party but by issues.

Respectfully,

CPT Ray Casteline

What happened to the First Amendment right to free speech? Is this not a violation of the civil rights of those in the NRA? Present the other side too and let adults decide what they believe.
the government is not to be our parent.

This is the second legal action against a radio station in Chicago and NRA here. Signs are banned at rallies. A group of attorneys calling themselves the "Truth Squad" have been set up in
MO to legally act about any ad they think is wrong. This is the Obama campaign,folks acting like police.

I can never remember any candidate ever taking so many legal actions against opponents. Hillary had this issue with Obama also.

If factcheck.org is non-partisan why is it fully funded by the Annennberg Foundation which also funded Williams Ayers and Obama's Annennberg challenge? Why are the bios of all staff and researchers very liberal in training and work experience. It is asking a foundation associated closely with Obama to decide if his opposition is correct---reasoning minds would neither trust nor accept that as the best source of checking facts.

Where is the outrage? Are we even capable of it anymore? This ought to scare the hell out of anybody who gives a damn about the 1st Amendment. Instead, it looks like America is perfectly happy to elect this guy. America gets the government and the leaders that it deserves.

Before anyone makes another "fire in the theatre comment," I think it must be pointed out the NRA is buying time. The Obama campaign is threatening and intimidating stations which carry the NRA's purchased message.

This is an attempt to be pre-emptive by the Obama campaign. Were it governmental, it would be censorship.

What part of "freedom of the press" do you liberals not understand?

I live in a China. If you want to see how the media will work under an Obama administration, you're welcome to move to Beijing.

Whether McCain has a high chance of dying of Melanoma is relevant to choosing a President.

The document that the lawyer wrote seems to prove that there is no proof that the Ads were incorrect. Also, I've seen Obama's voting record. He has voted in support of infringing on gun ownership repeatedly. Didn't he ban handguns in Chicago? Is it safer now? Screw that, I'm joining the NRA. Anyone got their phone number?

Has the McCain campaign attempted to take down Obama ads through legal intimidation? No.

Simply stated: If there is a political ad run that Obama doesn't like, he takes legal measures to suppress it.
DOES THIS BOTHER ANY OF YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS?

Notice a pattern here? There is an Obama-sponsored "Truth Squad" in Missouri to combat any "perceived" lies about Obama on the airwaves; Sen. Barack Obama has warned TV stations and asking the Justice Department to intervene in an attempt to block the airing of an ad by a non-profit group that links him to an unrepentant domestic terrorist; now this latest ABC News Obama-censorship story. Meanwhile, The New York Times ran a story yesterday stating that FIVE of Obama's anti-McCain adds (including the stem-cell ad) contain FALSE information and LIES about McCain. Obama is NOT playing fair, but playing his friendly mainstream media. This suppression of free speech by Obama & friends should warn all of you of what is to come if he wins. SCARY!

If ABC had the guts to air some more of the REAL truth about 'O', and his shady background, they would gain so much market-share, their invertors would be proud. (see FoxNews)

You people that blame our gas prices on Bush need to get your facts straight. It was people like Obama that banned offshore drilling which would have made our gas prices lower. our economy right now is crap because of the gas prices, its a vicious cycle that we are stuck in because we cant drill for oil. people are losing their houses because it costs them hundreds of dollars a week to drive to work. Vote for a president who wants to keep this us NOWAY! Mcain/palin 08

This is to Jessica I would rather have a Bush the third then a Jimmy Carter the second. I don't believe you understand the dangerous policies Obama believes, or that he is exactly like Carter. I already pay my share in taxes I don't wish to pay more. Also, I am from Illinois so I know exactly who Barack is a man who would rather send a man to prison for shooting someone in self-defense, because a gun ban exsists, then make gang members eligible for the death penalty in a drive by shooting. Grow up.

I am an independent voter and my vote could go either way. But you can't persuade me to vote for Bush Jr...McCain! If anyone need to wake up it's the people who do not realize what a steak and stake president Bush has had in oil, and just how John McCain plans personally to follow him into financial bliss! He got his wife Cindy and all her beer baroness inherited money, now John's after the big gun! And that's oil! John McCain will even appease his potential voters "to get them off track" so that he can get in office and get his hands on the biggest asset right now and that's oil~!
An oil slick is coming... and you will not be able to hold on, because this deal is a personal deal made by Bush and subscribed to by John McCain. John wants his turn at oil investing internationally (who cares the cost at home) so long as John and his financial buddies get a piece of the national pie!
If your voting for John McCain, I hope you get some "interest" for the pain!
Obama/Biden08

McCain may not be the ideal person to serve as president, but at least he doesnt want our freedoms like Obama does, at least McCain didnt disrespect our anthem and flag as obama did, and at least McCain wont disarm us and then seek to enslave us as Obama will if elected. People who vote for Obama will be like sheep willfully heading off to be slaughtered. Wake up and do the research America.

I live in Phila. and I remember Frank Rizzo using the same thug tactics as "southside Barry". Things never change , I think its time for the Republicans to let loose with all "guns". That would include alot more NRA Ads.

What, he doesn't support the First Amendment either??

Chicago thuggery at its finest. Nothing more, nothing less.
This is what we have to look forward to if Barack wins this thing.

It seems that Obama thinks he,s Hugo Chavez and Vladimar Putin. Threten the Press and any group and shut it down.
Do we want a man like that in the white house? God I hope not! Wake Up America!

GO NRA - Keep running those ads, right on!
Obama has no morals nor does he have class or integrity. He is fighting to keep those ads off, but he continues to run ads that make John McCain look sick, old and not able to use a computer.

Jake, I have a question for you. Aren't you (or ABC) a little concerned about freedom of speech issues with Obama at the helm? Okay, sure you guys on the right side of the issues now but what if he and/or the Democrats do something that the news business feels it should report even though it isn't flattering to the Democrats? Is the 'Truth Squad' going to hit you guys too?

Barack Obama. He knows what's good for you. Even if you don't.

Actually, the McCain campaign has run ads based on Factcheck - misleading ads, sure - but they used Factcheck as their basis. Now Factcheck is wrong?

Last I checked, the 1st Amendment didn't have a clause that allowed restrictions on free speech if David Axelrod thought it unfair to his candidate.

In fact, Obama is on record supporting Chicago's ban on handguns. And there is that inconvenient questionnaire his campaign submitted then denied. The worker who filled out the questionnaire is on record as stating that it accurately reflected Obama's views.

I am truly concerned for the future of our country if this man is elected. He has already used legal means several times in order to get what he wants - with FL and MI re-voting in the primaries; blocking the Ayers ad through these same legal maneuverings; his infamous clearing of the field with his opponents in Chicago.

He's sly as h*ll and I don't trust him one bit. Any other politician with his radical associations would have been taken out of the race by now. Please research for yourself ACORN and then realize that not only is that the group Obama did his community organizing through, but he was also their attorney through years of charges of voter fraud.

Wake up America! A revolution is happening and 3/4 of the voters are sleeping through it!

Team Obama is starting to freak me out. On Drudge there is a link to a news station in MO that reports that Obama now has prosecutors and sheriffs involved in making sure false or misleading ads are not put on TV. They say nothing about false or misleading ads put out by their own campaign ... only their competitor. By whose standards are they going to consider an ad false or misleading?

"And the left has the unmitigated gall to call Conservatives fascist?"

It could be worse. The right could be calling Obama a Harvard lawyer.

Callisti. (you'll have to look it up).

Seems the NRA is going off of Obama 's actual record and factcheck is only going off of what he has said. Barry is the guy who thought the DC gun ban was constitutional, until it was ruled unconstitutional then he changed his mind. Barry has also supported bills that would make it a felony if the gun you owned was stolen and used in a crime if it was not "secured" on your property. Obama also filled out a questionnaire saying he wanted all handguns banned, he denies this despite his handwriting being on the questionnaire. he also wanted to ban ALL semi automatic firearms and make it so you could not claim self defense if you used a gun in your home.

Obama is running for dictator not president.

This is what he learned fron Frank Davis and Rev Wright.

The Democratic Party--The new communist party.

Obama is already getting practice for his new role as dictator.

He voted for wiretapping (FISA)
Tries to stop freedom of speech
Tries to stop the press
Urges people to argue with neighbors
wants to take away our guns

Obama, Pelosi, Reid controlling our Gov't, controlling our lives?

Wake-up people

I guess 0bama has a problem with the freedom of speech. So much for Constitutional scholar?

The NRA ads used Obama's own words. They didn't make anything up, they directly quoted his own words. Now Senator Obama's thugs are once again, threatening anyone who dares repeat what Obama has said in the past with legal action.

And the left has the unmitigated gall to call Conservatives fascist?

The NRA, the GOP, both organizations known for lying, so what's new about that? Does ANYONE expect either to tell the truth anymore?

by the way one of the authors of the disgusting msnbc anti mccain commercial is co-authored by howard dean's brother.

i suggest that obama demand that MSNBC stop running the disgusting commercial that focuses in on mccains surgical scars-that is gross and intended to shock and instill fear of mccain.

msnbc was the only channel that agreed to air the commercial-even cnn (imagine that) refused it.

Kitty, Kitty, Kitty! Its too bad McCain won't win, cause folks like you would deserve him.

Yes, the NRA. What a fine upstanding organization that controls the Republican Party. And they also control a whole lot of you fools out there, too. Gee, have we had the latest NRA poster boy this week? There is usually one each and every week. What's up with that? Fine respectable organization that is. Like anything or anyone they support would get my vote! Yeah, sure.

McCain Wins Debate

Although the fate of tonight's presidential debate in Mississippi remains very much up in the air, John McCain has apparently already won it -- if you believe an Internet ad an astute reader spotted next to this piece in the online edition of the Wall Street Journal this morning.

"McCain Wins Debate!" declares the ad which features a headshot of a smiling McCain with an American flag background. Another ad spotted by our eagle-eyed observer featured a quote from McCain campaign manager Rick Davis declaring: "McCain won the debate-- hands down."

Here's the screenshot.

By Chris Cillizza | September 26, 2008; 10:40 AM ET | Category: Eye on 2008
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Calling Obama honest is like calling Drudge a reporter. Great party line - sure to get a lot of laughs!

Kitty - did you go to high school and if you did, did you graduate?

Let's all unite for OBAMA. He will bring peace to the world and with our brothers in the middle east

The GOP is a lieing machine. I pray the americans are smart enough this time.

MEW,

What??

In the Dark,

Sounds like something Obama would
do to get out of a mistake. Pretty
smart..huh.

OH its State run TV now ugh? wow Obama's is really moving forward with his socialist agenda..

How anybody in their right mind can vote for McCain needs to get what they deserve, 4 more years of lies, cheating and deception, just like McCain's ragged performance of 'suspending' his campaign. Give me a break, first of all his campaign was never suspended, his campaign people were still working around the clock, secondly, they never needed him in Washington, especially since he never even was in communication with anyone during the entire bailout fallout, and third, he only went for a photo op which kicked him in the butt because he sat there and said nothing and everyone said he didn't need to be there, they had already come to agreement. And after telling George Bush to contact Obama to get there too, what drama. He just looked so stupid, he was doing absolutely NOTHING for country, he was and still is doing EVERYTHING for McCain, and his campaign! Go Obama/Biden '08!!!!

So Moveon does not command the use of tv outlets?

"Last name first.."

Is that some sort of conservative inside joke?

In the Dark:

Last name first..

Sounds like Stalin. Talks like Stalin. Acts like Stalin.

Right Tim. I mean who is going to be more biased; the media or a political campaign. Yeah McCain and his surrogates and 527 groups are a lot more impartial than the media. You guys need to stop blaming the media every time you don't like what they report. Newsflash McCain isn't so great. He does some stupid stuff sometimes and Palin is just a drooling mess. Someone earlier said she is a breath of fresh air, sure maybe if you have been in Chernobyl for the past 15 years. But I guess you like people who are unable to come up with their own thoughts or have a hard time constucting a sentence that isn't on a teleprompter.

Jake: check out THIS ad.

McCain claims premature victory in debate before he agrees to attend it.

BACK TO THE FUTURE!

LOL!!!

Ever notice how nothing is BO's fault?

He was bad at Saddleback because BO was tired from his vacation--and McCain cheated.

He looked horrible at the debate with Hillary because George and Charlie picked on him.

If he loses the election it is not because of his many flaws, or because McCain has more experience and better judgement--but because voters are uneducated, or racist.

Woody,

I understand this is a complicated issue. What I am not sure of is how you can say he doesn't contest the content of the ad: "This advertising is false, misleading, and deceptive," writes Bauer.

It's refreshing to watch Governor Palin in interviews. I'm tired of lawyer talk. So, go ahead, and keep bashing her. See you at the polls in November. McCain/Palin08

NOT: PELOSI/REID/OBAMA/BIDEN.

Obama would not have come to DC if McCain had not. They are senators and should be there to do their job. The country should be first; not debates.
OBH is looking for a basketball game to releive frustrations. Hope he isn't on the court at 3am when the phone rings.

This bill by the dems will give money to ACORN. Hum.....

Obama campaign is making a very weak argument by using FactCheck as a citation. FactCheck is written by journalist. Now-a-days with biased media we cannot trust that information.

So, Obama should come up with better reason to stop airing the ad.

freedom of speech is not a lisence to lie and libel. He is a constitutional scholar and he is acting responsibly, unlike the GOP/NRA.

The McCain campaign should counter this and request that the dispicable ad that Howard Dean's brother produced, which shows close-ups of McCains face following his cancer surgery, and suggests that McCain is quietly slipping away from melanoma also be removed from the air.

The ONLY network that has agreed to run the ad thus far is MSNBC, which should tell you something.

This ad sets a new low standard for political advertising, and it only figures that Dean's brother would be a party to it.

To freedomfighter1975 and Chris,

First amendment rights come into play with political adverstising. Who can say what based on funding is not a simple issue. What is clear, however, is the 527 groups are free to express their opinions on the airwaves. We're not quite Venezuala. Yet. If any candidate thinks the content rises to the level of slander they can simply sue the producer and/or broadcaster.

Of course with slander cases you must have only one thing on your side, the truth. Notice Obama doesn't contest the specifics of the content, he merely tries to intimidate station owners.

As far as "three pinnochios" goes, oooooo, scary. Factcheck.org, would that be funded by the Annenberg Foundation? Probably unimportant.

omg - THREE pinochio's???????

Obama's campaign doesn't need to smear Palin, she is doing a great job making herself look like an ass all by herself. How any of you can still believe this woman has the intelligence and sophistication to be the #2 is absurd? But hey, she likes guns so she must be okay.

The McCain sleaze continues ...

Of course he wants to change the subject.

FAILED PALIN PICK = STRIKE ONE

FAILED DEBATE BAILOUT ATTEMPT = STRIKE TWO

What will be his next desperate stunt?

STRIKE THREE.

YOU'RE OUT, JOHN.

Before any simple minds on here start the weak argument that this is an assault on the 1st amendment you would be wise to understand it better. The first amendment does not give you the right to say whatever you want. It is the same as yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.

Hugo Chavez would be proud.

Ironic they go after the NRA on the same day the NY Times actually criticizes Obama's own campaign ads for dubious/misleading claims.

Mew...I think Palin did a pretty good job on her own....

I am not casting my vote on whether McCain or Obama are for or against the NRA... at this point there are more important thing on my table. Like my job and paycheck.

The insufferable arrogance

Amendment 1, amendment 2, yup check those off your list in an Obama presidency.

GO NRA!!

You would think a constitutional scholar would not try to abridge people's First and Second Amendments rights.

"you have a duty 'to protect the public from false, misleading or deceptive advertising.'"
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But ... the whole Obama "phenomenon", from Illinois on, has been accomplished by misleading and/or deceptive advertising. (Not to mention Biden's weird imaginings about his illusory "Beretta" over-and-under ... )

GO NRA!!!

OBH's campaign has smeared Palin. For heaven sake we must not say anything about OBH.