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Obama Finds Curious McCain's Plea to Reduce Partisan Rancor

September 06, 2008 7:57 PM

In Indiana today, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., expressed bemusement at Sen. John McCain's nomination acceptance speech.

"I have to say, when John McCain says in his speech that he wants to reduce the rancor in Washington ... and I’m thinking, 'Did you pay attention to the last two days of your convention?'" Obama asked.

"I mean, What? Were you not, were you not watching?" Obama continued. "Did they not get the memo?

"You know, there’s got to be some consistency in how you approach these things," Obama said, "There’s nothing wrong with a vigorous debate because the parties have very real differences. But when it starts getting personal, when you start just focusing exclusively on trying to tear the other person down instead of what you are going to do on behalf of the American people to deal with this economy, then that’s not serving Democrats, that’s not serving Republicans, that’s not serving anybody and that’s the kind of politics we want to put to an end when I’m President of the United States."

-- Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

September 6, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (231)

User Comments

Well, How about that Karl Rove, "Moderator" saying that BOTH sides need to be careful of their statements, how self serving ! It seems a very shrewd denial of the "Pig in lipstick" attack, where people like Fred Thompson were attacking Obama for phrases taken out of context.. And it translated like this: How dare (that black boy) attack and insult this fine upstanding innocent (white woman) by making such a slanderous and insulting statement ! Now, after this attack, to deny this racist attack, Rove is trying to position his team as a somehow fair minded neutral arbitor of fair play. What they want to do is to attempt to seek racial alienation and those who are receptive to that view , while posturing as if they are above that kind of thing... Classic Karl !

Posted by: curtis | Sep 15, 2008 9:53:54 PM

Obama, when you use our words, our thoughts on us, you don't convince us, you repell us. ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN (just)WORDS. Don't you come up with anything where there isn't a whole dvd closet full of your contradictions?

Posted by: irma | Sep 8, 2008 3:01:36 AM

Nice bounce...

In the new poll, taken Friday through Sunday, McCain leads Obama by 54%-44% among those seen as most likely to vote. The survey of 1,022 adults, including 959 registered voters, has a margin of error of +/— 3 points for both samples

Posted by: RealisticLib | Sep 7, 2008 9:29:57 PM

I'm an ex-Republican turned Libertarian. I'm dismayed at how very aggressive our country has become -- and I see it fueled by the major political parties.

My hope is that people will recognize that they all pretty much want the same things, but see different solutions. If they can get past the animosity maybe they could search for win/win solutions instead of thinking they can only achieve their goals if the other side loses.

I am currently raising my children. I am also the wife of an active-duty military physician who is serving in Afghanistan.

Peace out.... :-)

Posted by: Carol | Sep 7, 2008 4:54:45 PM

McCain has been in the Senate for almost 30 years. His campaign is running on change although the McBushies have been in charge of Washington for the last 8 years that brought us an almost bankrupt economy, endless war, high unemployment, Enron (and Keating Five), the Katrina debacle, etc, etc. McSlime's change is more of the Rove playbook, dishonorable, cynical, lying about the issues, putting self before our beloved republic. That the polls have McShame and his unready to be commander-in-chief beauty queen running even with Obama, who has run a brilliant, clean campaign focused on resolving the enormous problems that we face tell us everything we wish we do not know about the place of race (and slimy politics) in the U.S. I am a senior citizen who is in despair for the future of our children and our planet.

Posted by: lin | Sep 7, 2008 4:47:32 PM

what will mccain change? will palin tick her own party off like she did in AK, for personal gain?

so instead of dems vs repubs gridlock
it'll be a 3 way logjam, dems vs repubs vs admin...even less will get done...

honestly, I'm apolitical and disenheartened by the whole mess...so I drive on, looking out for me and mine...

btw: I'm the stereotypical repub; white male, ex-military, pretty well off, president of an engineering firm, like to hunt & fish...believe in family, god (of personal choice), country....

I remember JFK and lived thru viet nam, as much as I hated clinton, he was a good president...sorted the balkens out without losing 1 American...and it was a bloody mess, as bad as Iraq...

if I offended anyone, sorry, I'll just learn to not 'cruise the net' lol

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 4:17:31 PM

I seldom get involved in these forums...
they are all the same...people never change, never compromise, waste of time...

I may be harsh, but the damage done to America, and how divided She is, hurts me...and it's getting worse...neither side will blink...but it's typically the repubs who say the dems aren't Patriots...or god fearing


Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 4:15:52 PM

Arthur,

You totally misunderstand me. I have no intention of voting for McCain/Palin because I do not agree with the Republican platform.

I don't agree with the Republican platform but that doesn't mean that I need to refer to Palin as consummate evil.

There may be some things about her that I don't like. But there are other things about her that are commendable. Somehow you see only the bad and think it negates anything good about her. I see her as much more complex than that -- a combination of strengths and weaknesses -- like everyone else on earth.

Posted by: Carol | Sep 7, 2008 3:54:19 PM

Arthur,

I am not sure what you are trying to say. On the one hand you seem to be accusing Palin of being a socialist, as if that were bad, and on the other hand you seem to be defending socialism.

Personally, I happen to abhor the long arm of government in every facet of our lives. I think that most societal ills have been created by the government -- and that liberty is the solution, not more government.

Posted by: Eric | Sep 7, 2008 3:46:26 PM

carol
I hope she lives to 100...but not with any impact in my life...

I know OJ simpson is bad, not convicted of anything, but yet bad...

palin, I know her type...she is not good, which leaves only bad...

you seem enamoured by her, good, cast your vote...but don't try to convince me to reconsider my opinion of her...
she will be very bad for the Country

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 3:43:49 PM

Arthur,

Good grief, man! Can't you see that you are doing exactly the same thing you accuse Palin of?

You are right and she is wrong!

If she disagrees with you, her core being is corrupt! She is evil, bad.

She will burn in hell....

I would hope that voters can be persuaded to look beyond the media caricatures and to see people as people -- complex and basically good -- but with different ideas as to how to achieve their common goals.

Posted by: Carol | Sep 7, 2008 3:40:11 PM

eric, you say socialism is bad...

well, 30 mil people or something work for some form of government

not counting the defense industry...

government is business in our system...
and business runs our government...
the line is blurred

healthcare: doesn't the government pay a large % of all its revenue now? so why not get control of it?

or how about SS? welfare? goverment spending just to create public works jobs? or paying for college education?

if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...chances are it's a duck

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 3:32:14 PM

Arthur,

You'll get no argument from me about Fannie and Freddie. The government should be staying out of it. But Palin is not part of the Bush administration, so let's not brand her a socialist. Her leanings are even a little bit libertarian.

That said, Democrats are also guilty of intervening in the private sector. I think it would be fair to say that if the Democrats were in power right now, they would also be intervening with Freddie and Fannie. I'm not saying they should, just that they would....

Neither of the 2 major parties advocate free enterprise.

Posted by: Eric | Sep 7, 2008 3:30:58 PM

eric...

socialism is using public money to fund a business, any business, public or private...the government gets into business by doing so...it's the first step...just like all the financial bailouts going on now, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac...the government is siezing those concerns...

the repubs have done 20 years damage to our economy...and don't even know it

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 3:20:04 PM

Arthur,

I take it that you did not like being analyzed on the internet. I take it that you did not think it just or fair that your entire life, your hopes and dreams, could all be summed up by a stranger you have never even met.

How about applying that sense of fair play to Palin? Her entire life is being summed up by strangers who think they comprehend the core of her being.

Posted by: Carol | Sep 7, 2008 3:19:32 PM

Arthur,

Please get your nomenclature straight!

Palin is not a socialist. You may not like her, which is fine with me, but at least be accurate about what she is and what she is not.

Socialism is not defined by paying a foreign company to do a job. Socialism is when the government takes control of an industry -- when the government owns and controls business. That would be like Obama or Hillary wanting to "socialize" health care....

Oh, Obama is a socialist...? Pretty much. Now that you have learned that you actually like socialism, I trust that you will retract your accusation that Palin is a socialist too.


Posted by: Eric | Sep 7, 2008 3:13:49 PM

carol
I never said you were christian, I can tell by your mindset you are not...

I said palin is a kook, a religious nut-job...and bad for the country & world...

you, perhaps just an agnostic psych-babbler?

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 3:12:36 PM

9/5 rassmussen obama>mccain 49-46 3000 polled

9/4
gallup obama 48/44 2800
diageo obama 46/40


all 260 polls to date: nice reference
with an average line calculated...

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 3:05:21 PM

Arthur,

It is a distortion in cognition to think you know the motives of others. How do you know Palin is ego-driven, for instance...? Or do you just like to think she is? Was Hillary ego-driven? Now, Palin "might" be ego-driven, but I don't think you have enough insight into her inner workings to make that call.

Palin was asked to be VP. She did not actively campaign for this position. On the other hand, Obama started campaigning for the presidency shortly after he achieved star status at the Democratic convention several years back. Are you willing to consider that he might be ego-driven as well...?

It is also distorted thinking to conclude that if your position is the opposite of something you don't like, your position must be good. How about considering the idea that you might both be mistaken...?

But if you are to be consistent in your belief that the opposite of what you hate is good, and Christians (SOME of them) dismiss the religions of others, why would you not see this as good...? I mean, these religions also have beliefs that you would consider to be lunacy. Dismissing them must therefore be good in your book....

It seems to me Arthur, that you pick and choose which religions you think are "insane," as you put it. You don't happen to like right-wing Christians, so their religious views are to be marginalized, but the beliefs of Jews and Buddhists are OK, since large numbers of them happen to be on your side of the political fence.

BTW, I am not a right-wing Christian -- or even a Christian -- at least as it is currently defined by the right wing. That is something you only assumed -- as it seems you have a tendency to mind-reading, attribution of motives and such.

Posted by: carol | Sep 7, 2008 3:01:53 PM

the democrats have registered >2 mil new voters since Jan

the repubs have lost 1/2 mil off their rolls

some polls have each ahead,some have it even...

only the vote will determine the winner


Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 2:55:31 PM

Zogby International
McCain-Palin
49.7%
Obama-Biden
45.9%

Gallup daily
McCain 48%
Obama 45%

And this still doesn't reflect the full RNC bounce

Posted by: ralph | Sep 7, 2008 2:47:21 PM

craig
her speech was written by a bush speechwriter 3 weeks before she was picked...it was written for a man, and re-written for her...

she had nothing to do with it...

she's like a game show girl...hyping mccain and lavishing praise on him, while taking shots at others...he sits tere like a dirty old man checking her ass out...it's a bit creepy...
his wife is a beauty queen too..
he goes for those women of substance

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 2:45:53 PM

btw: this project has been in the works since I lived there in the 80's, it's nothing new...

and some say won't be completed for 10 to 20 years...if ever...
there is 100 years of NG in the lower 48, much more accessible...much cheaper...

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 2:42:56 PM

If Sarah Palin is "ready on day one" then why is she and the Republicans so afraid to have her face the "evil media" (who McCain called his base). I agree with indy_voterr, they afraid to have her stand on her own two feet. The McCain camps says she is telling us who she is "in her own words"... does that mean she wrote her own speech? I'd love to have heard her speech before they rewrote it. We might have gotten a glimpse of who Sarah Palin really is.

Posted by: Craig | Sep 7, 2008 2:42:24 PM

palin and the gas pipeline
anybody here actul know what this is?
no pipeline is built, nor has it been started...nowhere near being started...

my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong:
she gave 500mil to a CANADIAN company to incentivize them to build it...
that's socialism...paying a private, non-US for profit corporation to build something they will profit from...
if it made economic sense, they would do it on their own...it's not like the oil/gas companies have any shortage of $$$ or profit...but why spend their money when the government will ante up...

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 2:38:46 PM

Wow Arthur!

You wrote "This woman is a bad person and anti-Christian."

You represent well what is so amazing to Republicans. The Party of Tolerance is so unbelievably intolerant of anyone who disagrees with them.

First of all, when you judge someone to be a "bad person" you are basically saying that YOU are the judge of good and evil -- that you are the source of truth in the unbounded universe. I don't really think you really intended to go there, but you did...

You have stated your contempt for certain religious ideas but then cast yourself in the role of being able to determine what is and what isn't Christian. They haven't got that figured out themselves, so I hardly think you do.

Insanity is a legal definition, not a psychological definition. I think you are trying to say that you don't find Palin to be rational, but what you actually said was that she should not be held legally accountable for her choices, due to an inability to differentiate between right and wrong.

When you judge her as brainless for not going before the press at this time, you are stubbornly refusing to look at the existence of alternatives -- as if the ONLY possible reason for this choice were her ineptitude -- not strategy.

How about looking at other people as complex human beings...? Then you won't be so utterly blind-sided should Palin meet the press and perform well. Maybe you could even wish her well...?


Posted by: Carol | Sep 7, 2008 2:17:44 PM

Nelle:

I haven't heard Palin complaining about the attacks against her. Republican voters may have complained about the attacks, but as far as I can see, Palin has been holding up under them very well.

Posted by: Barb | Sep 7, 2008 1:51:51 PM

I have 'faith', in a higher power and science...

unlike, apparently from reading here, most obama supporters, I am not a star-struck, islamic terrorist...

I want what's best for OUR Country...

anybody who truely believes in their heart AND mind that the earth was created 5000 years ago, and started with 2 people placed here by god, is insane...

the fact that she believes her religion (wetf it is, she's had 3 or 4)to be the only true one in this entire unbounded universe, is exclusionary (much like the repubs with minorites/gays/poor/etc.) and must be disheartening news to all the jews, muslims, bhudists, etc.

this woman is a bad person and is ANTI-Christian...she diametrially opposed to all its values...

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 1:50:27 PM

I thought that "pitbulls with lipstick" not only could GIVE it but also could TAKE it! I was done with the Republican bully tactics at the last election. America cannot possibly have such a short memory. Sarah Palin is the "hanging chads" of this election. What a shame that this is what the political landscape of the last decade will be remembered by in the history books.

Posted by: Nelle | Sep 7, 2008 1:33:54 PM

the mccain campaign will not allow palin to speak to the press...it was just stated by davis

anybody who thinks the earth is 5000 yrs old and the victim of a rape shouldn't have a choice in their own life, is a lunatic

she's a liar and apparently brainless...
I can't wait until she's interviewed without a teleprompter...

can you say 'stepford'?

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 1:13:17 PM

You know what gets me...? How people impugn the motives of others and caricaturize them in the basest terms.

You may not like conservative ideas, for instance. But you hadn't even heard of Palin a few days ago, and suddenly she is evil incarnate. She's a "lunatic."

Have any of you taken a moment to check out why she votes the way she does...? What is the philosophy behind her decisions...? Maybe if you did you would learn that she is not motivated by the things you assume. And many Republicans would be surprised here as well....

Many here are quick to assume that Palin is stupid because she wasn't educated at Harvard, because she has lived in Alaska (which makes one stupid how...?) or because she isn't hitting the media yet -- but I think you will underestimate her at your peril.

Don't you think it would be better if Democrats and Republicans really looked inside themselves and admitted a few things...?

Like, do Republicans really WANT children to not have health care...? Seriously now. Do you really think that anyone wants children to suffer...? And if you do think that about other people, what does that say about you...?

How about being honest with yourselves? How about saying, "All people want children to grow up healthy and well fed. We disagree on the way to make that happen." Then you need not give yourselves heart failure by thinking someone like Palin is consummate evil and wants to starve your children.

Maybe you could work towards win/win instead of win/lose.

Posted by: Carol | Sep 7, 2008 1:04:25 PM

in the long run it doesn't matter...

obama, may or may not, help us
mccain won't and can't

the congress will be even more democratically controlled after this election...he will be stymied...

so the choice:
mccain, stalemate and 4 more years of the same with a 50/50 cance of him croaking and a lunatic taking over

or

obama...at least he'll be able to get some things done with the cooperation of congress...let's not forget how important that is...bush had a repub congress for 6 years, and STILL got nothing done...

honestly, it makes little difference, but I would like to see the possibility for improvement to have a chance

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 11:57:40 AM

noooo, global warming isn't real not at all, listen to Sarah Palin, she said it isn't real, with ice shelves in the Arctic the size of Manhattan breaking off last week and Cat 4 hurricanes now a regular occurrence in the gulf why would anyone think global warming is real? ignore the problem like Bush has done, like John McCain would no doubt do as well. Obama wants to get straight to work dealing with this serious problem by creating new green energy jobs while combating the effects of this very real catastrophic condition, but what does Obama know.. kill the polar bears, kill the Alaskan wolves from a plane like a coward! pollute some more! give huge tax breaks to big oil and whatever you do don't end the war in Iraq, I mean what would Sarah Palin do? all of that and more! Vote for McCain and make the dream come true?

Posted by: Democrats 08 | Sep 7, 2008 10:33:59 AM

The Republicans whine and attack as if they are cornered. This is a well deserved panic, given that ordinary Americans have been victimized by that party for eight years: people who aren't rich, aren't lobbyists, and and don't work for oil companies, who have seen their incomes drop and their young people killed and maimed in a dishonest war. Enough.

Posted by: Iris | Sep 7, 2008 8:53:10 AM

in the last 8 tears we have become:
isolated
weaker
lost credibility

NK got nukes
Iran is closer

China holds the world pursestrings, and is willing to use the leverage

Russia is stronger, and controls europe via energy flow

we have lost close to 4500 good Americans, for what? fighting what dik cheney called a 'handful' of terrorists?
mission accomplished, war over in < 6 months and 50 bil$...

just keep stating the facts...
stay on point

let the repubs ignore the issues, and keep making personal attacks...

I have every confidence the American people will see thru this charade

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 8:51:14 AM

All Democrats need to do is point to the absurdities and hypocrisy in Republicans. They are regular people...with their seven homes and $300,000 outfits...They are uniters not dividers....with the clearly partisan tone from the convention....That they are for country first.....but continue to support policies that gives American assets and jobs away....That they are reformers but have been part of Washington for 26 years and have been in charge for the last 8...That they support freedom and beat their chests about soldiers fighting that freedom but do everything they can to take that freedom away...The Republican changed long ago to the party of hypocrites, childlishness, and exalting mediocrity. Reagan had a message and could communicate the message. Republicans now have no message and would rather communicate imagery (such as Palin for VP)...

Posted by: indy_voter | Sep 7, 2008 8:29:50 AM

Zank,
So, where is McCain's credibility with Putin when he introduces his vice-president as experienced with Russian affairs because Alaska borders it? As for the victim card....don't be hypocritical....Republicans have already begun playing the victim card with Palin....poor young, mother being picked on b.s.

Posted by: indy_voter | Sep 7, 2008 8:22:22 AM

Obama whined when Hillary said anything about him, he whines now when Palin and McCain talk about him.
Poor Obama, the victim.
How does he think he is going to act in the Presidency when everyone is questioning every thing he does?
"Putin thinks I'm a Muslim. Boo-Hoo."

Posted by: Zank | Sep 7, 2008 8:02:50 AM

just reepat the message:
repub president for the last 8 years
repub congress the first 6

the war, 4000+ dead
600 bil (2 tril long term)
x00,000 dead civies
'Stan unravelling
no OBL
huge trade deficit
huge budget deficit
housing meltdown
market 11000 in 2000, 11000 in 2008
incomes going down, prices up
many, many repubs indicted & convicted..
the latest, stevens of AK

the repubs are their own worst enemy
just state the facts

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 7:57:20 AM

diamond lou
the times obama mentioned mccain he was complementing him a few, and referencing his policies, NOT taking cheap shots...listen to the speach

obama DID call palin and congratulate her...the very next morning...

people, start thinking for yourselves instead of regurgitating what your favorite media source feeds you...

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 7:49:02 AM

the obama camp is right...
do not 'centalize' palin, do not give her any importance...marginalize
let her become the celeb, the paris hilton

give her enough rope to hang herself...
she's not smart, nor educated...biden will dispatch her in the debate...
she's a talking head and a cheap 'trick' to win over the uber jesus freaks and women (women are not dumb, it's an insult from mccain to think so)

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 7:42:38 AM

It was a very odd convention. Didn't John McCain know the content of the speeches from Rudy to Mitt to Fred to the snide, snarky, and sarcastic Sarah Palin?

The other odd thing has been the co-opting of the change message. And the speeches made you wonder if these people thought aliens had been in charge of Washington for 8 years. It was more like we have seen the enemy and it is us.

Posted by: Sandy | Sep 7, 2008 7:37:37 AM

obama 'served papers'...even if it's true...

unless it's from the US government or courts he does not need to respond...

and even then it can be months before then, and after he's president he'll have priviledge and immunity...

btw: there are constitutional questions over mccains citizenship...he was born in the canal zone, and the laws not changed until after his birth, and not retroactive...he may NOT be a natural born citizen

but that is not the point..mccain would be bad for America

Posted by: Arthur | Sep 7, 2008 7:36:26 AM

58 days until election. Who is Sarah Palin and why is she ducking the press? Today's TV shows include Barack Obama on ABC "This Week", John McCain on CBS "Face the Nation", and Joe Biden on NBC "Meet the Press". FOX NEWS Sunday has Obama chief strategist David Axelrod and McCain campaign strategist Rick Davis. Where is Sarah Palin? Is she afraid to face the media and answer tough questions? Or do Republicans believe these mainstream news shows are biased (even though McCain himself is appearing). Palin needs to be held accountable for posisitions she has taken. I hope the hell someone on Face the Nation asks McCain specifically why she has decided not to face the media and answer questions about her positions and her experience. Meanwhile, the clock is ticking towards the election on we don't know who Sarah Palin is except for what Republicans want us to know or what Republicans deride as media attack. Why is Palin afraid?

Posted by: indy_voterr | Sep 7, 2008 7:27:27 AM

Palin=extremist.

He picked her, and sold out his country. If he wins and he dies in office we are so down the toilet.

Posted by: Malkittens | Sep 7, 2008 6:51:58 AM

BO "But when it starts getting personal, when you start just focusing exclusively on trying to tear the other person down instead of what you are going to do on behalf of the American people..."

Obama, during his acceptance speech mentions McCain 21 times... on the other hand McCain mentions Obama only 6 times. So? Who exactly is getting personal.

And by the way, McCain paid for air time to congratulate Obama... is this the response?

McCain called to congratulate Biden on his nomination... what was the response to the Palin selection? Not even a 3am phone call!

Posted by: diamond lou | Sep 7, 2008 5:54:20 AM

Who is that guy McCain on the Palin ticket?

Posted by: susan | Sep 7, 2008 5:19:55 AM

Well, Haniel, if you want me to rephrase my post in terms of rage, I suppose I can do that. I tend to be more peaceful than that, but OK. :-)

I can say with certainty that many Republicans are enraged at what Democrats have done in the past and what they promise to do in the future. You have already spoken for Democrats so their righteous rage is thus noted!

It doesn't make much difference if we use the word fear or rage though. The evils that enraged you courtesy of Republicans were committed outside the bounds of the constitution. The same is true the other way around -- though you may not prefer to acknowledge that the liberal agenda has victims who suffer at its hands.

Let's be reasonable: If the liberal position resulted in Shangri-La for everyone, we'd all want it, right...? And if the Republican position resulted in universal bliss we'd all want that. The fact is that the liberal agenda is achieved at someone's expense -- as is the Republican agenda. They are both win/lose philosophies, and to accept them you have to value certain people more than others.

The defining characteristic of the libertarian agenda is that it has no VICTIMS. You can't tyrannize anyone to achieve a goal for yourself or for someone else. It has to be win/win or no deal.

Well, I guess I can't vote for "my" better interests when someone else will have to pay the price. That would seem parasitical. And it would be very hard to pick between Republican and Democrats anyway -- as they are nearly identical.

Yeah, it's pretty frustrating in my camp a lot of the time. I guess I'd just like to see people choose reason over coercion. I certainly can't need instant gratification or I'd be a goner. :-)

Posted by: Carol | Sep 7, 2008 4:20:23 AM

No. The rancor from democrats (or at least those I speak for) isn't fear of what Republicans will do, it is RAGE at what they HAVE DONE and want to CONTINUE TO DO.

As far as Republican fears of what a democrat will do, well, were you around during the Clinton years? Do I have repeat AGAIN how the poor got richer and the rich got richer? Is this and the surplus left for Junior's squandering amusement not legendary by now?

Do you people EVER THINK FOR YOURSELVES?!

I mean, hey, no offense but for gawdsakes,man! When are you going to SNAP OUT OF IT and start voting for your better interests?

Posted by: Haniel | Sep 7, 2008 3:40:53 AM

You could be right, Carol, about the budget thing, but I still think cutting the budget for pregnant teenagers'housing does not play well considering Palin has a pregnant teenage daughter who is fortunate enough to have a place to live. I know we're constantly being spun, but though I hate the stuff from the right, I get a warm fuzzy feeling from the stuff on the left! Peace out!

Posted by: mila | Sep 7, 2008 3:29:40 AM

KEEP IN MIND that the pollsters do not keep ceel phone lists and therefore their results by definition are skewed. The majority of people under 30 do not have a landline, and that is going to be the critical demographic in this election.

Posted by: Haniel | Sep 7, 2008 3:29:02 AM

This is a good start, but Obama has to do better than this. Palin is getting away with murder and nobody from the Obama camp is challenging her.

If she doesn't have enough courage to face the American press corps, how is she going to face America's enemies???

I found her speech vindictive, juvenile, and shallow. She would be a disaster as president or VP.

Posted by: Di | Sep 7, 2008 3:26:40 AM

"McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis said that this election is not about the issues, Obama needs to keep repeating what he said because Americans are hurting and to McCain it isn't about the issues? "

Yes and Barry has all the answers. Don't worry that he has no accomplishments to speak of and has never lead anything...nada.

Posted by: Mack | Sep 7, 2008 3:22:26 AM

Giving the Republicans Another Four Years...? How about not...?

Can we agree that the reason there is so much animosity between Democrats and Republicans is from the fear of what the other will do to them if elected...? Democrats fear what Republicans will do and Republicans fear what Democrats will do.

But WHY is each side so afraid of the other...? I mean, the Constitution of the United States prohibits the government from doing harm to any of us!

Basically, the government has become accustomed to operating largely OUTSIDE of the constitution -- and it is the unconstitutional abuse of power that each side fears from the other -- with good reason. They both have a track record.

Our culture has become very, very aggressive. We need to understand that the plethora of laws made by our government are based upon aggression. (You WILL comply with this rule or we will draw our weapons....) When a law or regulation is enacted by our government, we need to understand that we are no longer dealing with each other in the realm of reason, but in the realm of force and aggression.

What would be the worst thing that could happen to you if your unfavorite political party got elected -- but they still operated within the constitution...? Well, they might be annoying.

That's not where we are at though. We stay awake at night, dreading what the opposing party is going to do. We fear each other in this aggressive society, but we would not need to fear each other if we operated within the realm of reason -- and the constitution.

But when you ask congress to abide by the constitution they will call you a kook. Ask them if they want to just discard the constitution and they will cling to it reverentially.

But why don't Democrats and Republicans insist that the other abide by the rulebook when thy are not in power...? Well, both sides cooperate with the other's mischief because they believe that they will eventually get back in power -- and then it will be their turn. They are content to wait.

This country needs a revolution.

Bob Barr '08


Posted by: Carol | Sep 7, 2008 3:04:45 AM

McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis said that this election is not about the issues, Obama needs to keep repeating what he said because Americans are hurting and to McCain it isn't about the issues?

Posted by: Kathy | Sep 7, 2008 3:03:45 AM

McCain would like nothing better than to see our economy collapse so he could get more recruits for his hundred hundred years wars.

Posted by: McCain makes me sick | Sep 7, 2008 2:51:33 AM

The only thing that can explain why the Republicans are running neck and neck with the democrats is that American's just haven't experienced enough pain from the economic mismanagement of the Bush administration. Well, ok, let's give the republicans another 4 years and see how far and how fast this country goes down in that time.

Posted by: Shawn | Sep 7, 2008 2:32:43 AM

Mila,

That housing budget was actually increased, not decreased. The proposal was for a huge increase in spending, but Palin reduced the amount of that increase, which still amounted to a net increase.

Democratic spin doctors figured they would just report it as a cut, however, in order to energize Democrats against her.

On the other side, Republicans spin doctors can claim that Palin cut spending, even though she increased it.

Is it not a scary thing how the political machine tries to manipulate ALL of us...?

Posted by: Carol | Sep 7, 2008 2:32:15 AM

Sorry alpaig52, the irony I was referring to was that the Republican party is suddenly embracing teen pregnancy when in the past they have condemned it. And the fact that they promote the abstinence-only
policy as the only form of birth control and protection from STDs. I am personally very happy for young Bristol and wish her all the best. It would be nice if all young women in her situation had the kind of support, both emotionally and financially, that she is receiving. Perhaps her mother will remember that in her budget next time she uses her line item veto to cut spending for housing pregnant teens. How's that for irony...

Posted by: mila | Sep 7, 2008 2:12:01 AM

Has anyone really taken a close physical look at John McCain lately? He looks tired and beaten (or perhaps just old next to Sara Palin's manic energy). The former McCain could win MY vote, and I'm a Democrat. The new John McCain is allowing himself to be handled and sold out (tragic after the brave stance he took in Viet Nam.)

As we get older, we look back at the sum total of our lives. How must McCain feel to know that he is leaving this planet a defeated soul? It's tragic. McCain says FIGHT. I say, McCain FIGHT for what you really believe in!

WRT Sarah Palin....just wait! She is getting vetted fast. You don't acquire the name Baracuda for NO reason. Frankly, I like her folksy/mince no words/spunky/Annie Oakley delivery. If she didn't stand for everything I disagree with I would vote for her. Instead she's the most conservative candidate we've seen in decades. Let's not be fooled by presentation; this isn't a Prom Queen contest! This ticket may ver well determine the FATE of the Planet. Really, it's no laughing matter.

Being pro choice (and pro life - you don't have to be anti choice to be pro life), pro sex education, pro constitution, pro community involvement (just like Barack Obama admirably contributed after graduating from college), anti genocide (like the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis slaughtered in the name of the USA), anti "Onward Christian Soldiers," pro Veteran's benefits (my husband flew a B52 during the Viet Nam war and lost his soul; he needed help to heal), pro spiritual values, pro treating your neighbor as yourself (now there's a concept), pro prayer, pro peace, pro global oneness. Well, that's a lot of 'beingness," isn't it. Rodney King said after the Watts riots in LA "Can't we all get along?" Now that is a good question. Is it possible for the inhabitants of this planet to get along? What would it take to seed the soil for acceptance and peace? That's a far better question that the political devisiveness we see today. What is tragic, is that the WORLD is looking to us to get this right. Can we live up to their hopes and expectations?

Posted by: CD | Sep 7, 2008 2:08:09 AM

OBAMA IS FAKE.....HE WANTS TO BE
PRESIDENT FOR HIS OWN INTERESTS ONLY.

OBAMA IS AN OPPORTUNIST...NOT EVEN ONE
TERM SENATOR....AND HE RUN FOR PRESIDENT.....THINK ABOUT THAT....
I DON'T TRUST OBAMA......

Posted by: ROBERT | Sep 7, 2008 2:04:41 AM

The lead that Obama is commanding has shrinked further ...

The latest Gallup puts Obama at 47% (down 1%) and McCain at 45%. This is NOT taking into consideration the full comvention bounce for McCain/Palin.

The race is now officially TOO CLOSE TO CALL.

Posted by: Honey, I shrunk the lead | Sep 7, 2008 2:01:42 AM

The lead that Obama is commanding has shrinked further ...

The latest Gallup puts Obama at 47% (down 1%) and McCain at 45%. This is NOT taking into consideration the full comvention bounce for McCain/Palin.

The race is now officially TOO CLOSE TO CALL.

Posted by: Honey, I shrunk the lead | Sep 7, 2008 1:56:48 AM

E DONE DO YOU WATCH THE NEWS? OBAMA IS RUNNING FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. FOR ALL OF YOU THAT PRAISE PALIN GO TO NEWSWEEK AND READ THE REAL PALIN. SHE HAS A LOT OF ISSUES TO BE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.LINDA N NORTH CAROLINA. YOU HAS DEFENED THE DEMOCRATIC DENOMINATION GRACIOUSLY. I PRAY FOR OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN

Posted by: Wanda | Sep 7, 2008 1:53:07 AM

Jackie;

If what you write is what you really believe, I politely suggest that you are voting for the wrong man. If you believe that good is something that results from our individual efforts working in our own communities, you should be voting Libertarian -- for Bob Barr this year.

Sorry, I understand that you hope for the best with Obama, but both of the major parties are now premised upon the idea that good can only come from government. Their power comes from increasing government size/programs -- something that neither party is inclined to give up.

It takes courage to look outside the Two Party System. I wish that more would gain that courage.

Posted by: Eric | Sep 7, 2008 1:51:10 AM

It's time for us to pay the taxes we owe for the war we once supported and move on with fixing the mess Bush has made. McCain knew the Tax Policy Center said Obama's plan was better. But Rick Davis and Karl Rove insisted he lit about that too. Christie Todd Whitman said it nicely...she's not a fan of a guy who campaigns by insisting "you're wrong, you're evil, and I will do away with you." (Now, PBS)

Posted by: kravitz | Sep 7, 2008 1:47:15 AM

JACKIE: You are right on! I get inspired by Obama also. I KNOW he WILL do the right thing for America!

Posted by: Kim | Sep 7, 2008 1:46:19 AM

McCain's failed before. It will only hurt his ego after his third failed try at the presidency. With the campaign he is running, he deserves no respect.

Posted by: kravitz | Sep 7, 2008 1:45:02 AM

OBAMA IS FAKE.....HE WANTS TO BE
PRESIDENT FOR HIS OWN INTERESTS ONLY.

Posted by: ROBERT | Sep 7, 2008 1:39:50 AM

I just got done looking at The Obama campaign website and after looking at his laundry list under issues "Are YOU CRAZY". Who is gonna pay for all this crap he wants to do, the tooth fairy? Santa? This guy brings change alright, RADICAL CHANGE. He will single handedly force business to head over sea, ruin Health Care, and create worthless government jobs and social programs that we can't afford. We already can't afford the ones we got now. He wants to end world poverty at taxpayer expense buy funding it with 150 billion dollars. The list goes on and on. He would be a reckless commander in chief that Putin and our other enemies would certainly exploit. Wonder who they would vote for? He thinks he's running for the World presidency. Are we world citizen's now, and not Americans? Why was he giving speeches to rallies in Germany? America can't afford Obama people so get real. We don't need POLAR CHANGE we need the kinda change the Palin will bring to Washington. We need to clean up the do nothing's and corrupted politician's and get rid of the log jam, and have the government start working for the people. They need to start addressing the real issues like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid,energy and the national debt. The constitution does not provide the government to be the answer for everything. We need to follow it and quit screwing around with EVERYTHING. Palin will see what's going on and begin addressing the waste, corruption, and management of the people's money.

Posted by: ralph | Sep 7, 2008 1:32:25 AM

Barbara, what I'm saying is that Palin made the CHOICE to accept the VP nomination at this time, knowing her daughter's situation. Yes I've seen some of the nasty stories, but, come on, Palin's a big girl, she's run for office before and has to know what the Press is like. She CHOOSE to subject her daughter to that by accepting. She herself said back in March that Hillary was not doing herself any good by WHINING (her word) about sexism in the media, so she KNEW the kind of stuff that was heading her way. Unless you think she's naive, in which case, do you really want a naive VP?

Posted by: mila | Sep 7, 2008 1:31:57 AM

America!?! Wake UP! Obama's job is NOT to fix every little thing in Washington or bring his breadth of experience to the office - LOOK what experience has been doing for us for YEARS NOW??? It will take years and years of reform and policy work across party lines to actually make that happen. His job is simply to INSPIRE people to MAKE CHANGES IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES to VOTE to have FAITH IN THE PROCESS so that we can DO THIS IN OUR OWN COMMUNITIES. THAT is the sort of change that the young people are clinging to. Because for years and years and all the years that I've been alive, I've never believed in the government - I've only ever believed in people in my community and local government. Watch him speak - it makes you think differently about the world and life. That is NOT something you see or hear everyday. This man is something from a history book. We haven't had that in a long-ass time, if ever. I continue to donate, volunteer, make calls, rally communities and build support for this man. I beg you to get on board and pray to God that the wars and divisiveness ends. God bless BHO and his team. We are REALLY going to do this.

Posted by: jackie | Sep 7, 2008 1:30:05 AM

I was wondering since John McCain wants to “drill, drill, and drill” would he ask that the new off shore oil fields be used for American only consumption and that the price be at discounted levels.


Posted by: Bill | Sep 7, 2008 1:29:58 AM

alpaig52:

No offense to anyone, but you seem to be