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Well, How about that Karl Rove, "Moderator" saying that BOTH sides need to be careful of their statements, how self serving ! It seems a very shrewd denial of the "Pig in lipstick" attack, where people like Fred Thompson were attacking Obama for phrases taken out of context.. And it translated like this: How dare (that black boy) attack and insult this fine upstanding innocent (white woman) by making such a slanderous and insulting statement ! Now, after this attack, to deny this racist attack, Rove is trying to position his team as a somehow fair minded neutral arbitor of fair play. What they want to do is to attempt to seek racial alienation and those who are receptive to that view , while posturing as if they are above that kind of thing... Classic Karl !

Obama, when you use our words, our thoughts on us, you don't convince us, you repell us. ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN (just)WORDS. Don't you come up with anything where there isn't a whole dvd closet full of your contradictions?

Nice bounce...

In the new poll, taken Friday through Sunday, McCain leads Obama by 54%-44% among those seen as most likely to vote. The survey of 1,022 adults, including 959 registered voters, has a margin of error of +/— 3 points for both samples

I'm an ex-Republican turned Libertarian. I'm dismayed at how very aggressive our country has become -- and I see it fueled by the major political parties.

My hope is that people will recognize that they all pretty much want the same things, but see different solutions. If they can get past the animosity maybe they could search for win/win solutions instead of thinking they can only achieve their goals if the other side loses.

I am currently raising my children. I am also the wife of an active-duty military physician who is serving in Afghanistan.

Peace out.... :-)

McCain has been in the Senate for almost 30 years. His campaign is running on change although the McBushies have been in charge of Washington for the last 8 years that brought us an almost bankrupt economy, endless war, high unemployment, Enron (and Keating Five), the Katrina debacle, etc, etc. McSlime's change is more of the Rove playbook, dishonorable, cynical, lying about the issues, putting self before our beloved republic. That the polls have McShame and his unready to be commander-in-chief beauty queen running even with Obama, who has run a brilliant, clean campaign focused on resolving the enormous problems that we face tell us everything we wish we do not know about the place of race (and slimy politics) in the U.S. I am a senior citizen who is in despair for the future of our children and our planet.

what will mccain change? will palin tick her own party off like she did in AK, for personal gain?

so instead of dems vs repubs gridlock
it'll be a 3 way logjam, dems vs repubs vs admin...even less will get done...

honestly, I'm apolitical and disenheartened by the whole mess...so I drive on, looking out for me and mine...

btw: I'm the stereotypical repub; white male, ex-military, pretty well off, president of an engineering firm, like to hunt & fish...believe in family, god (of personal choice), country....

I remember JFK and lived thru viet nam, as much as I hated clinton, he was a good president...sorted the balkens out without losing 1 American...and it was a bloody mess, as bad as Iraq...

if I offended anyone, sorry, I'll just learn to not 'cruise the net' lol

I seldom get involved in these forums...
they are all the same...people never change, never compromise, waste of time...

I may be harsh, but the damage done to America, and how divided She is, hurts me...and it's getting worse...neither side will blink...but it's typically the repubs who say the dems aren't Patriots...or god fearing

Arthur,

You totally misunderstand me. I have no intention of voting for McCain/Palin because I do not agree with the Republican platform.

I don't agree with the Republican platform but that doesn't mean that I need to refer to Palin as consummate evil.

There may be some things about her that I don't like. But there are other things about her that are commendable. Somehow you see only the bad and think it negates anything good about her. I see her as much more complex than that -- a combination of strengths and weaknesses -- like everyone else on earth.

Arthur,

I am not sure what you are trying to say. On the one hand you seem to be accusing Palin of being a socialist, as if that were bad, and on the other hand you seem to be defending socialism.

Personally, I happen to abhor the long arm of government in every facet of our lives. I think that most societal ills have been created by the government -- and that liberty is the solution, not more government.

carol
I hope she lives to 100...but not with any impact in my life...

I know OJ simpson is bad, not convicted of anything, but yet bad...

palin, I know her type...she is not good, which leaves only bad...

you seem enamoured by her, good, cast your vote...but don't try to convince me to reconsider my opinion of her...
she will be very bad for the Country

Arthur,

Good grief, man! Can't you see that you are doing exactly the same thing you accuse Palin of?

You are right and she is wrong!

If she disagrees with you, her core being is corrupt! She is evil, bad.

She will burn in hell....

I would hope that voters can be persuaded to look beyond the media caricatures and to see people as people -- complex and basically good -- but with different ideas as to how to achieve their common goals.

eric, you say socialism is bad...

well, 30 mil people or something work for some form of government

not counting the defense industry...

government is business in our system...
and business runs our government...
the line is blurred

healthcare: doesn't the government pay a large % of all its revenue now? so why not get control of it?

or how about SS? welfare? goverment spending just to create public works jobs? or paying for college education?

if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...chances are it's a duck

Arthur,

You'll get no argument from me about Fannie and Freddie. The government should be staying out of it. But Palin is not part of the Bush administration, so let's not brand her a socialist. Her leanings are even a little bit libertarian.

That said, Democrats are also guilty of intervening in the private sector. I think it would be fair to say that if the Democrats were in power right now, they would also be intervening with Freddie and Fannie. I'm not saying they should, just that they would....

Neither of the 2 major parties advocate free enterprise.

eric...

socialism is using public money to fund a business, any business, public or private...the government gets into business by doing so...it's the first step...just like all the financial bailouts going on now, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac...the government is siezing those concerns...

the repubs have done 20 years damage to our economy...and don't even know it

Arthur,

I take it that you did not like being analyzed on the internet. I take it that you did not think it just or fair that your entire life, your hopes and dreams, could all be summed up by a stranger you have never even met.

How about applying that sense of fair play to Palin? Her entire life is being summed up by strangers who think they comprehend the core of her being.

Arthur,

Please get your nomenclature straight!

Palin is not a socialist. You may not like her, which is fine with me, but at least be accurate about what she is and what she is not.

Socialism is not defined by paying a foreign company to do a job. Socialism is when the government takes control of an industry -- when the government owns and controls business. That would be like Obama or Hillary wanting to "socialize" health care....

Oh, Obama is a socialist...? Pretty much. Now that you have learned that you actually like socialism, I trust that you will retract your accusation that Palin is a socialist too.

carol
I never said you were christian, I can tell by your mindset you are not...

I said palin is a kook, a religious nut-job...and bad for the country & world...

you, perhaps just an agnostic psych-babbler?

9/5 rassmussen obama>mccain 49-46 3000 polled

9/4
gallup obama 48/44 2800
diageo obama 46/40

all 260 polls to date: nice reference
with an average line calculated...

Arthur,

It is a distortion in cognition to think you know the motives of others. How do you know Palin is ego-driven, for instance...? Or do you just like to think she is? Was Hillary ego-driven? Now, Palin "might" be ego-driven, but I don't think you have enough insight into her inner workings to make that call.

Palin was asked to be VP. She did not actively campaign for this position. On the other hand, Obama started campaigning for the presidency shortly after he achieved star status at the Democratic convention several years back. Are you willing to consider that he might be ego-driven as well...?

It is also distorted thinking to conclude that if your position is the opposite of something you don't like, your position must be good. How about considering the idea that you might both be mistaken...?

But if you are to be consistent in your belief that the opposite of what you hate is good, and Christians (SOME of them) dismiss the religions of others, why would you not see this as good...? I mean, these religions also have beliefs that you would consider to be lunacy. Dismissing them must therefore be good in your book....

It seems to me Arthur, that you pick and choose which religions you think are "insane," as you put it. You don't happen to like right-wing Christians, so their religious views are to be marginalized, but the beliefs of Jews and Buddhists are OK, since large numbers of them happen to be on your side of the political fence.

BTW, I am not a right-wing Christian -- or even a Christian -- at least as it is currently defined by the right wing. That is something you only assumed -- as it seems you have a tendency to mind-reading, attribution of motives and such.

the democrats have registered >2 mil new voters since Jan

the repubs have lost 1/2 mil off their rolls

some polls have each ahead,some have it even...

only the vote will determine the winner