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Obama Implies McCain Puts Other Countries First

September 12, 2008 4:05 PM

A pretty scathing charge from Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., this morning as he spoke to the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers and assailed Sen. John McCain's, R-Ariz., position on free trade.

"Just ask the machinists in Pennsylvania who build Harley-Davidsons," Obama said of McCain's record. "Because John McCain didn’t just oppose the requirement that the government buy American-made motorcycles, he called Buy American provisions 'disgraceful.' Just ask the workers across this country who have seen their jobs outsourced.  The very companies that shipped their jobs overseas have been rewarded with billions of dollars in tax breaks that John McCain supports and plans to continue.

"So, when American workers hear John McCain talking about putting 'Country First,'" Obama said, "it’s fair to ask –- which country?"

Um ... isn't that pretty much the dictionary definition of questioning someone's patriotism?

- jpt

September 12, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (350)

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McCain's sleazy moves, as he tries to wriggle from the Keating Five disgrace, are the desperate actions of a man/campaign in deep trouble. McCain has lost all honor and dignity that he earned as a POW. His little barking dog, Sarah, follows her master with the drooling canned bark that turns off voters by the thousands.

Posted by: painter33 | Oct 7, 2008 2:59:32 AM

OBAMA = BETRAYAL
Obama supporters are foolish to think that he will never betray them.
Obama was a close friend of Pastor Wright for TWENTY YEARS.
Obama threw Wright under the bus for personal ambition.
McCain would not betray his country even after 5 years of torture.
You can put lipstick on a traitor, but he's still a traitor.

Posted by: Howard | Sep 19, 2008 9:32:19 AM

watchewtalkinaboot, Wolfie? McCain is firmly on the side of the racists. That would be, oh, a quarter of the Republican Party, give or take. You see, they are ashamed enough to deny it, but not ashamed enough to not indulge in it. By their actions do you know them.

Posted by: McLiar/Pantsonfire | Sep 15, 2008 9:25:40 PM

Why vote McCain? Well at least he isn't a racist like the other side. That is about all I can give any of them because none are what this country needs.

Posted by: Wolf | Sep 15, 2008 12:07:32 PM

megapotamus, could you remember that Boeing has lost a contract to Airbus and that McCain was a key decision maker in that competitition between the two giants of aviation? Once again he took lobbyists with him in bed and let America and Boeing down. Remember. God save America from McSame and the lobbyists. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAM/BIDEN08.

Posted by: BKMC | Sep 15, 2008 8:50:59 AM

Let Barry accuse a better man by far of his own sins. It is par for the course. Americans see the truth. Barry ALWAYS puts ambition above all. Would he have declined the early release offered McCain? That question is absurd of course because Barry would never be in such a predicament. Never. Like all Lefties he squanders and abuses the rights secured for him by bravery and honor, alien concepts that he scorns openly.

Posted by: megapotamus | Sep 15, 2008 8:25:15 AM

Navy vet, Jeremiah Wright was a Marine. Whatever his faults may be, his patriotism is not in question.

Now ask yourself this -- who are you serving, Sir? The Republican Party or the United States of America? John McCain has made it very clear that he cares more about the party than the country, slogans notwithstanding. Why would he put an inexperienced and corrupt ignoramus with secessionist tendencies one stopped heartbeat away from the Presidency?

On what grounds should anyone vote for McCain? "Pretty please, we haven't finished destroying the country in the 8 years we've had, and we want some more time to finish the job"?

Posted by: McLiar/Pantsonfire | Sep 15, 2008 12:49:13 AM

Obama has shown that he puts himself first. One example is OBAMA'S SCANDAL in which he personally benefited from a land transaction involving an indicted developer, Rezko. Rezko was indicted for seeking political kickbacks and for shaking someone down for a contribution for the Illinois Governor. Rezko bought a parcel of property that Obama wanted, but could not afford. Then Rezko sold the property on the same day he purchased it to Obama for well under the price he paid for it. I wonder what kind of political favors he got from Obama as a result of the deal and the over $60,000 he had donated to Obama over the years...

Posted by: Obama Scandal | Sep 14, 2008 11:08:19 PM

Obama is running scared. Mccain and Palin are unbeatable .the clintons new he could not win even his vp new it. face it dems you have a loser here, the ship is sinking fast Mccain will win in a landslide Penn, Ohio Mich, are going to go to Mccain .

Posted by: george searing | Sep 14, 2008 5:11:14 PM

Patriotism, Obama shouldn't go there. He has 20 years of being associated with Jeremiah Wright.

That's some HEAVY baggage.

Posted by: Navy Vet | Sep 14, 2008 4:47:18 PM

I see what Obama is doing. It's not panic. It's a shrewd, calculated move.

Obama is questioning McCain's patriotism. Just like McCain went after Obama's strength by stealing the "change" theme, Obama is going after McCain's flank. Obama knows full well the media is going to protect him.

Obama is trying to get McCain to flash that notorious McCain temper and reveal McCain to be "dangerous" and can't be trusted with his finger on the button. This is calculated. It's Obama's best shot. I hope he fails miserably.

Posted by: Rhodium Heart | Sep 14, 2008 3:37:30 PM

Hey neocons! Are you as stupid as McCain thinks you are?

Posted by: McLiar/Pantsonfire | Sep 14, 2008 2:18:10 PM

Obama has now torpedoed his main appeal beyond the antiwar base: That he would lead a post-partisan campaign (and administration) that would bring a different tone to politics.

Now the gutter politics of the Obama campaign has exceeded anything that Karl Rove ever did for the Republicans. Going after Sarah Palin's baby, Trig, was the absolute bottom--implying she should have had him aborted.

While Obama "netroots" supporters ADMIT that all Obama is doing with his own personal disclaimers of this filth is trying to maintain plausible deniability, rather than actually putting a stop to it. Ugliest stuff I've ever seen in any political campaign, ever.

Take away the Iraq War, take away the cool post-partisan appeal, and what you have left is an angry black partisan candidate. Obama isn't going to win this election by channeling Al Sharpton.

Posted by: sinz52 | Sep 14, 2008 12:13:57 PM

Because outsourcing all those jobs to foreign countries to pay 12 year old kids less than a dollar a day is GREAT for American economy! Who cares about the working class, we're all millionaires, right?...Right?

Posted by: VinceWI | Sep 14, 2008 11:26:17 AM

To Obama the word change is just a campaign slogan, whereas McCain and Palin have actually brought about substantive changes in government. Changes which have helped Americans, while Obama has spent his career just talking about it. Obama has spent most of his time in public office absent from his responsibilities, while ambitiously running for the next rung in the ladder, not to serve the people, but rather to further his own position. And, I'm sure most people could relate to McCain and Palin as fellow Americans, more than they can to the Obamas, who chose to spend TWENTY YEARS in the radical
anti-American racist church of Jeremiah Wright ... and chose unsavory associates, such as Farrakhan, Pfleger, Rezko, Ayers, etc.. As for Obama's phony indignation about being a community organizer ... Palin never criticized those efforts, she merely, and rightfully questioned it as being the sole experience and credentials for someone to use as qualifications to become President of the United States ... and, even then, it was in response to Obama's attacks at Palin for being the mayor of a small town, when he also neglected to mention that she was Governor as well.

Posted by: Howard | Sep 14, 2008 11:19:08 AM

n May 2006, after McCain had courted the Rev. Jerry Falwell in an effort to win conservative support, I asked him if he was bending his principles for the sake of winning. "I don't want it that badly," McCain answered. "I will continue to do what is right. . . . If that means I can't get the Republican nomination, fine. I've had a happy life. The worst thing I can do is sell my soul to the devil."

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 14, 2008 7:36:34 AM


Funny it is the libs that are pushing the jobs over seas because of the taxes they lay upon businesses along with the mandates.

If the liberal Congress allowed drilling the economy would be fine right now, but they will not because they want to destroy the economy for political gain!!
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The only way Capitalism works is by finding cheaper labor somewhere.
Blame it on the democrats. I expect to hear how they were responsible for the excessive deregulation that has brought about the miracle of Bushonomics.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 14, 2008 6:34:00 AM

Turnabout is fair play. McCain said it was unpatriotic thing for Obama to oppose the Iraq war, probably the most patriotic thing that Obama has ever done.

McCain has no lock on patriotism. Even though he is filthy rich, he has not given a dime to support ordinary Americans.

Posted by: Ni | Sep 14, 2008 4:32:22 AM

So what does Mr. America community organizer propose to make America more competitive in a global world facing top rising economies like China or India? Protectionism?? Socialism??

´Return to the past´: starring Obama.

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | Sep 14, 2008 3:04:41 AM

This election is turning into a riot. The One is becoming The Losing One and he doesn't know how to cope. Putting country first does not mean buying overpriced and/or shoddy goods. If we create a monopolized 'buy local' type economy, we'll soon find that our purchasing power is minimal because the costs of production have been ridiculously elevated by unions which have demanded and got all manner of idiotic perks. Since businesses have been unable to keep on paying the fiscal costs of union idiocy, many have failed because of that and poor management.

If Obama doesn't understand the true meaning of putting country first (country before self, not overpriced union-products before self) what in Sam Hill does he understand?

Based on the powerful ignorance he displays on a frequent basis, I'd say not much.

Posted by: indga | Sep 14, 2008 2:45:48 AM

" meanest, nastiest campaign ever"

Oh, pauly, pauly, pauly, repeating somebody's words back to them isn't mean and nasty - it's called the truth.

Posted by: Ann | Sep 13, 2008 9:41:10 PM

"what is playing out is racism plain and simple.for when the likes of Palin start becoming a model for our children ,,,The USA is all but lost....." blah, blah, blah. Keep showing the world how crazy liberalism is. Keep it up! You're winning this election for John McCain that way! Thanks!!!!!!

Posted by: Ann | Sep 13, 2008 9:39:41 PM

Taxes have gone down in the last 8 years but jobs have gone off-shore at an increasing rate. So the argument made below makes no sense. You used to be able to get away with making statements like that in the past, but now there is a track record. I am not for big increases in taxes but making statements like the one below are ridiculous.

_________________________

"Funny it is the libs that are pushing the jobs over seas because of the taxes they lay upon businesses along with the mandates."

Posted by: Thomas | Sep 13, 2008 9:08:02 PM

Obama is the patriot. Stop questioning him, McCain is running the meanest, nastiest campaign ever.
You will not swift boat us, your will not decieve us with you same old politics of karl rove destruction.
Obama is the change agaent, and more patriotic than all of you.

Posted by: Pauly | Sep 13, 2008 8:54:13 PM

Where is discussion on the National-International Issues? Palin is not the issue!

Sarah Palin, the 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate, is a beautiful lady. What else can you tell me about her? Is she qualified to be the President of the United States?

In contrast to many very highly qualified Republican ladies, such as Dr. Condoleezza Rice, Sarah Palin has equivalent high school knowledge in some fields, and not at all in the others. In 1984, Palin won the Miss Wasilla Pageant, then finished third (second runner-up) in the Miss Alaska pageant, at which she won a college scholarship and the "Miss Congeniality" award. Palin admits to trying cannabis as a youth, during the time Alaska had decriminalized possession though she says she did not enjoy it.
Palin spent her first college semester at Hawaii Pacific College, transferring in 1983 to North Idaho College and then to the University of Idaho. She attended Matanuska-Susitna College in Alaska for one term, returning to the University of Idaho to complete her Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, graduating in 1987.
Did Senator McCain think choosing a family advocating separation of Alaska from the United States would buy my vote?

I am disappointed with Sen. John McCain’s selection; he chose such a feather weight person to represent the Republican Party. Did he think that American women would vote for him because he selected a female rather than a male for the ticket? Senator McCain, please stop insulting the American women?

As you have stated yourself, you had voted 95% of the times in the Senate along the President Bush's policies. Senator McCain, the issues during this election are: job, economy, medical insurance, infrastructure, education, and failed policy of the President Bush. As President Ronald Reagan once stated: Are we better now than 4 years ago? No, my family is worse than 8 years ago.

Should I vote for Bush-McCain policies once more? Tell me why I should!
Sarah Palin is not the issue nor is Paris Hilton.

Posted by: StMTraveler | Sep 13, 2008 8:51:40 PM

Obama is getting desperate and is making mistakes. It will be interesting to see if McCain can take advantage, or if Barack (middle name can't be spoken) Obama will wind up being hoisted on his own petard.

Posted by: Castor Bridge | Sep 13, 2008 8:42:15 PM

If Senator Obama has his way, he will tax employers out of business. What will that do to the employment situation in this country? Senator McCain wants to implement programs that will help increase employment. That way, the American people can pay for their own mortgages and health care. Obama's plan depends on the government to pay! He will, however, be using our tax money to do so! And, if Obama starts questioning Senator McCain's loyalty to this country, he will be in for a long two months!

Posted by: kdgn54 | Sep 13, 2008 8:25:32 PM

Funny it is the libs that are pushing the jobs over seas because of the taxes they lay upon businesses along with the mandates.

If the liberal Congress allowed drilling the economy would be fine right now, but they will not because they want to destroy the economy for political gain!!

Posted by: spock | Sep 13, 2008 8:13:12 PM

I knew Obama was a lightweight vapid fool, enamored of his own manufactured facade' but this is possibly the most stupid thing he's said to date.

Posted by: Flyfish | Sep 13, 2008 8:07:01 PM

To poster Jesus, etc.:

You're right. It is right to question Palin's associations. Obama was married BY rev wright and sat "in that church for 20 years" while Palin MARRIED a man that was a member of the AIP. Wright's comments are misunderstood, but there is NO WAY TO MISUNDERSTAND membership into the AIP. Guess Palin's hubby felt it was better to keep her, too, because look at all the oil they'll get to profit from at the expense of our environment.

Obama 08

Posted by: Peace | Sep 13, 2008 8:06:23 PM

notafool,

Tell that to the people who lost their homes because their job was outsourced/cheap foreign labor was imported.

You name is not fitting.

Obama/Biden 08! END THE MADNESS, YES WE CAN!!

Posted by: Common Sense | Sep 13, 2008 8:01:10 PM

"So, when American workers hear John McCain talking about putting 'Country First,'" Obama said, "it’s fair to ask –- which country?"

poor Obama has lost it. Mentally, he's over the edge.

Posted by: notafool | Sep 13, 2008 6:53:58 PM

Ohbama implies MANY things.....in his
dogged campaign through our 57 states.
Now if can imply that he's sorry for
comments about "those bitter Americans",
he may pick up a vote or two from those
Bible and gun-toting riff-raff........
....or not.

Posted by: grizzly bare | Sep 13, 2008 5:32:37 PM

I guess this is some of that 'overheated rhetoric' Obama is famous for.

1. Obama talked a lot of baloney about NAFTA.
2. Obama's economic advisor Goolsbee gave secret assurances to Canada that Obama's NAFTA speech was just a bunch of campaign baloney.
3. Obama lied about Goolsbee when he got caught.
4. Then Obama admitted he was tallking a bunch of campaign baloney about NAFTA all along.

Posted by: whoframedrudy | Sep 13, 2008 5:25:22 PM

Woody, thank you, I worked hard on the snark. Would it help if I said Ghandi was a community organizer? He was, too, you know.

As for questioning McCain's patriotism, why the hell not? This is not snark. McCain has consciously selected someone with separatist tendencies to be his Vice President! Seriously, this doesn't bother you all? Why not? I confess, I am terrified of losing Alaska to Canada, or god forbid, Russia.

Posted by: Jesus, etc. | Sep 13, 2008 4:34:11 PM

Jesus was a community organizer,

Thanks for the snarky remarks. Now let me ask you this, how many swing votes does Barack hope to capture by questioning McCain's patriotism? He's not helping himself at all with these comments.

BTW, Jesus was most certainly not a community organizer. He was concerned with saving souls, not seeking additional funding for Head Start. Not that there's anything wrong with that, just please don't try to equate the two. On second thought, go right ahead. That's another catch phrase that's driving people away from Obama. Likening Obama to Jesus, there's a winning strategy.

Posted by: Woody | Sep 13, 2008 4:17:35 PM

Stephen from Indiana, no, what works here seems to be lying and thievery. Such nice midwestern values. Good for you.

Posted by: VK | Sep 13, 2008 3:34:59 PM

One wonders, would Sarah Palin prefer to be Vice President of the US, or President of Alaska?

When will our allegedly liberal press gonna ask her that? Isn't that kind of important to know about someone running for high office? Does she really believe in an indivisible nation?

Posted by: Alaska First! | Sep 13, 2008 3:29:44 PM

Poor Obama. He´d have more chances if he run for prime minister in Germany. Maybe his flowery speeches fascinate europeans, but it doesn´t work out here.

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | Sep 13, 2008 2:45:39 PM

So true, whch country is McCain putting first? Is it a country he is putting first or corporations? His own ambitions. I really hope everyone reads about the new Cindy McCain articles. It isn't putting country first voting and advocating and employing people who lobbied for outsourcing to help a MULTINATIONAL corps bottom line

Posted by: johnson | Sep 13, 2008 2:36:46 PM

"Um ... isn't that pretty much the dictionary definition of questioning someone's patriotism?"
- jpt

You're being naive if you think the sword doesn't cut both ways.

So, how do you like it when someone does it to you?

Posted by: Doug | Sep 13, 2008 1:42:41 PM

McCain is going to be like President Ulysses Grant. The one-time military hero who conquered the south. Once elected Grant faded mentally and descended into alcoholism. Big business interests controlled and looted the government. This will happen again with McCain.

Most of the pro-McCain posts here are made by people hired by big business to promote internationalism and to get him elected at any cost. He will be a puppet of multi-nationals. The Trilateral Commission wants John McCain, former Mexican President Vicente Fox wants McCain. Open the borders to illegal immigration, offshore everything. When everyone is dead broke, then the top 1% can usurp the Constitution.

Posted by: Tom | Sep 13, 2008 1:38:58 PM

And what's wrong with saying that? The kind of decisions McCain has been making, can anybody say he has the best interests of the country at heart? McCain has always been a big phony, and especially now, e seems to have sold out to Alaska First!

Posted by: VK | Sep 13, 2008 1:33:56 PM

Well, whatever it is that he was trying to say; could be said without insulting insinuations.....Obama has to speak of issues without making personal attacks. Personal attacks whether stated directly or by insinuation, always makes the attacker seem like a low and dirty politician.

Posted by: irma | Sep 13, 2008 1:28:20 PM

Astounding the amount of RNC drivel being thrown around.

Does anyone have actual FACTS to back up the slanderous comments here (Obama's tuition, etc.) or is just going to be one talking point after another?

Do some research people, and I don't mean on FOX or Newsmax. You will be better for it. Neither man is perfect but it would appear that McCain cares for nothing but getting elected.

Posted by: Ian | Sep 13, 2008 1:15:54 PM

You can interpret this as Obama attacking McCain's patriotism, but really its an attack on McCain's trade/economic policies. Obama is attacking free trade and trying to make protectionism sound patriotic. It's also another example of Obama's willingness to spend more of taxpayer's money (paying more for products and services) and take credit for creating jobs. But all he's doing is taking money from US corporations and citizens (preventing them from creating jobs) giving this revenue to another company ensuring that company will become less competitive and more dependent on government hand-outs, and taking credit for credit creating/saving jobs with no actual net increase of jobs or wealth.

Obama's claims that he's only taxing the rich do not wash since corporations simply pass on increased costs to their customers. Make no mistake, the average American would pay more for products and services under Obama.

Instead of acting indignant about Obama's attack on McCain's patriotism, McCain's camp should instead point out that Obama's comments are a lame attempt to make socialism look like patriotism.

Posted by: Tom Martin | Sep 13, 2008 12:55:34 PM

You got to be joking, I am starting to think Obama thinks McCain is Obama.

Obama goes to Europe puts down this country, says our troops are air raiding villages, has yet to call our enemy what they are, but says McCain is putting other countries first.

If someone talked on the street as Obama does he would be put in a mental institution!

Posted by: spock | Sep 13, 2008 12:45:48 PM

Didn't Obama's staff reassure Canada that all of this talk about NAFTA and Fair Trade..was just that Talk? What has Obama exactly done for his short time in the Senate regarding trade? What did he do for the Maytag plant in his own state? He certainly isn't a Sherod Brown from Ohio or even Hillary Clinton who states it needs to be fixed. I am under the impression that no matter who gets elected..K Street and Wall Street get their man.

The issue isn't the corporate tax rate per se..it is getting companies to pay their taxes in the first place. To simply increase the rate overburdens those companies that actually pay their taxes. The best bet would be to close the loop holes and then lower the tax rate so everyone pays their fair share.

Posted by: Linda C. | Sep 13, 2008 12:35:37 PM

Cindy McCain had a prenup with John McCain to protect her financial well being. If she didn't trust John McCain, why should Americans trust him with their economic well-being?

Posted by: Mark | Sep 13, 2008 12:15:54 PM

Sarah Palin is like Mini Vinnali, the pop group of the 1990 that won grammies. The grammies had to be taken back because the group lip sinked. Palin doesn't have a clue on national amd international affairs.

Posted by: Mark | Sep 13, 2008 12:10:59 PM

Kings said:
"what is playing out is racism plain and simple.for when the likes of Palin start becoming a model for our children ,,,The USA is all but lost.i have been trying to figure out how am going to tell my little daughter that pregnancy before 18 and marrige is out of consideration when all she needs to do is point to a lady in the white house whose 17 years old daughter did same."

So let me ask you, when you kids come to you and say they want to smoke marijuana or snort cocaine and they point out that President Obama did that so it is OK, that would be different how?

YOU are the parent, act like it. Your kids do not get to do something just because others do. YOU set the standards as parents. Use the examples of Palin and Obama as people who have worked through poor choices but teach YOUR kids how to avoid poor choices.

No person is perfect and if you use this standard, no one can be president.

Do you tell your kids they cannot play sports because sports figures get into trouble?

Posted by: Big Dog | Sep 13, 2008 11:52:23 AM

Actually you are wrong on the dictionary definition. Patriotism is loving your country. It does not preclude loving other countries, and it is not nationalism, excessive love of your country to the preclusion of other countries. So as long as someone loves America, their love or priorities in reference to the rest of the world is irrelevant to that. Of course the connotation of the word WOULD indicate that someone who puts another country first is treasonous.

Posted by: Scott Goldstein | Sep 13, 2008 11:05:05 AM


what is playing out is racism plain and simple.for when the likes of Palin start becoming a model for our children ,,,The USA is all but lost.i have been trying to figure out how am going to tell my little daughter that pregnancy before 18 and marrige is out of consideration when all she needs to do is point to a lady in the white house whose 17 years old daughter did same.Palin is such a shame.am ashamed of my party,Frankly as amiddle age woman from the midwest,it will take only those low issues that we actually can't honestly tell the pollster for the MCbush/Palin of US OF A to make it to the white house and trust me the racial injustic will take thousands of years to heal.well you all know that we can't enslave these folks again.Lets catch some education here.

Posted by: kings | Sep 13, 2008 10:30:41 AM

You're obviously wrong about the "patriotism" thing as Obama has assured us that he would never question John McCain's patriotism, so the only other explanation is that Obama has gone completely insane, rendering him unfit for office.

Posted by: Neo | Sep 13, 2008 9:29:18 AM

Do these lib airheads ever discuss issues with any depth? Their leader, Obama, doesn't (OR CAN'T), either. Makes sense.

Posted by: Temagami | Sep 13, 2008 9:07:28 AM

Kim,

"All McCain \ Palin supporters have to ask is " Are they members of the club ? " - answer - "Yes" - all other inquiries irrelevant . It's what you get when you have a tribal "Us and Them" - "If you are in the club you are the club" culture . Obama has to get them to make the effort to look below the surface . Obama shoule spend 3/4 + of his time concentrating on the voters and 1/4 - concentrating on McCain \ Palin . IE. don't give them significance - build up a community Obama feel"

Thank you. That makes a lot of sense. Republicans need to feel like they are a part of the club (sheeple) and they don't care what lies they have to overlook to get their "in" pass. Pitiful lot they are.

Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | Sep 13, 2008 8:50:11 AM

Yeah, Obama has always said that he got his tuition money for Harvard from student loans. Now it has been revealed that not only did Saudi and Panther advisor, Khalid al-Monsour, pull strings to get Obama into Harvard, but but also paid for at least some of his tuition. ANOTHER PIECE OF BAD BAGGAGE FOR OBAMA?? BAGGAGE IS GETTING HEAVIER!!

Posted by: Jimbo | Sep 13, 2008 8:44:46 AM

McCain's tenure as a POW doesn't exonerate him from anything that comes out of his mouth.

His lies and distortions will catch up to him. I don't see him as a patriot in my book. Not anymore. He sold his soul trying to win this election. He should just retire gracefully. People don't want a greedy, whiny old man as president.

Posted by: Javier Gonzalez | Sep 13, 2008 8:15:28 AM

Strong words from Senator "Citizen of the World" Obama. All of a sudden he's developed such a love for those bitter people who still cling to guns and God---because they're by and large going to vote for McCain and Palin. And return Mr Obama to the trash heap of history.

Posted by: M Lyster | Sep 13, 2008 8:04:55 AM

I'm pretty sure we can ask Obama the same question....let's take a look back and see when McCain left the country to campaign for AMERICAN presidency in Germany or France?? Didn't find it...that's right you need Obama's books to find out of the country trips on government money and donations from supporters for personal gain. I'm pretty certain that the people in America that contributed to your campaign, Obama, didn't mean for you to campaign in Germany.

Posted by: SLH | Sep 13, 2008 6:00:07 AM

The most alarming "notion" from this Nothingness, self claimed Zerobameus, who has done nothing in his adult life, is not simply question a hero's patriotism, a hero who forght for his country and stayed in a POW cell for 5 years. The danger is his message of protectionism, nationalism, and ultimately socialism ideals. For God sake, this is still a free market economy, and Capitalism has made it the richest, fortunately still, country in the world. Zerobameus wants his government, using your money, to buy more expensive products, simply for the sake of "Made In America".

Wheather or not a conservative or a libral, buying or not buying "Made In America" does not equate "patriotism", just like the Clinton Administration is not the same as that of George W. Bush's administration.

According to this phony Affirmative Action candi's logic, 99.999% of Americans are unpatriotic because they certainly will find a thing or two Not Made In America.

Posted by: d0 | Sep 13, 2008 4:57:49 AM

Obama is wrong on protectionism. I can understand why people don't like Obama, or don't agree with him on the issues. What I can't understand, is why people support McCain. I thought Republicans were about family values and morality. Since when is adultery a family value? I thought Republicans were against elitism. McCain is way richer than Obama, and if he's not elitist, then why does he want to cut taxes for the rich, and tax everyone else more than Obama? Plus, the man's a liar. HOw many times has he said something and then three months later he denies it because that's the party line now?
I also understand loyalty. Can't we do better than that on morality?
I understand being loyal to your party. But my question is, what exactly would the Republicans have to do to lose your vote? They lied us into a war, wrecked the economy, and the lied about that too. They've polutted the environment, reduced our freedom, and our country is less secure, and more hated in the world.
Anyway, it's your choice. I don't really care, because my life will be fine no matter who gets elected. But some of you are worse off from the last 8 years. Some of you feel the burn of the gas prices (I don't because I have a Prius, and gas money is peanuts to me). You can have another 4 if you want, but how many years of Republicans are you going to take? Does it stop with you or your children? How does it end? With the U.S.A. as poor as Mexico and China? Why?

Posted by: James | Sep 13, 2008 4:16:47 AM

All McCain \ Palin supporters have to ask is " Are they members of the club ? " - answer - "Yes" - all other inquiries irrelevant . It's what you get when you have a tribal "Us and Them" - "If you are in the club you are the club" culture . Obama has to get them to make the effort to look below the surface . Obama shoule spend 3/4 + of his time concentrating on the voters and 1/4 - concentrating on McCain \ Palin . IE. don't give them significance - build up a community Obama feel - "Let's all get together" .

Posted by: Kim | Sep 13, 2008 3:22:59 AM

Oh yeah, right, so let's see, Teddy Roosevelt didn't serve America first because he didn't force the Federal government to support buggy whip manufacturers and gas-lighting installers in 1908, and instead said, gee, maybe we should move aggressively into the high-wage jobs of tomorrow, and not try shoveling back the tide.

Protection tariffs to delay the inevitable shifts in the economy are like using your credit card to pay the mortgage, instead of, you know, selling the house or getting another job. Plain stupid. And a President isn't supposed to enable stupidity on the part of the whole nation to protect one small group of it. That's not leadership, that's total special-interest pandering. What's Obama propose? Everyone gets special tariffs to protect his specialty? Just cut off international trade entirely, so no American job is ever threatened by competition from abroad? Go back to 18th century mercantilism?

And I thought this guy was educated and all.

Posted by: Carl Pham | Sep 13, 2008 2:17:43 AM

Seems pretty tame. And McCain is definitely fair game on foreign influence. Half his campaign team works for/has worked for/are still getting paid by foreign governments - Georgia, Macedonia, Taiwan, Saudi Arabia, etc. There are even some who've worked for the vilest African dictators. So their corporate sell-outs - DHL, et. al - are minor in comparison.

Based on the lies and slanders McCain's camp have made in this campaign it's pretty clear that he would sell his wife into prostitution (or at least put her into a South Dakota wet-t-shirt contest) if would help his campaign.

Posted by: Linda | Sep 13, 2008 2:15:40 AM

{jpt writes "Um ... isn't that pretty much the dictionary definition of questioning someone's patriotism?"}

I can understand that interpretation but one can also view it as an attack the Free Market Fundamentalists in the GOP, like Phil Gramm or Grover Norquist.


Posted by: Steve J. | Sep 13, 2008 2:11:51 AM

Obama's attacks are so lame.

Posted by: nick | Sep 13, 2008 2:08:13 AM

{which country a man who has served this country honorably in uniform would put first!}

"Duke" Cunningham was a frigging ACE in the Vietnam War and was awarded the Navy Cross. He is now in JAIL.

Do the math, pilgrim.

Posted by: Steve J. | Sep 13, 2008 2:00:58 AM

You are insane to think either one of these guys is NOT fixed and bought.

Posted by: Jimmy | Sep 13, 2008 12:50:44 AM

The two party systemis the problem. And the only real change will be someone who will take on not only the "other" party to is right, but also take on their own party. And only McCain/Palin have any history and reputation in taking on the good ol boys. Obama is an example of Chicago politics, fixed and bought.

Posted by: Jack | Sep 13, 2008 12:47:25 AM

That's ridiculous that Barack or anyone else would question which country a man who has served this country honorably in uniform would put first! This comment on Obama's part smells of the desperation he's obviously feeling, as he helplessly watches this election slip away from him.

Posted by: S A Matthews | Sep 13, 2008 12:46:06 AM


You guys defending McCain scare me. Obama is only a good choice because he isn't John McCain. A lot of you aren't worried about getting somebody in there who will make a positive difference, it just seems like you want to be right. To be able to say "my guy won". No matter which one of these two hand picked canidates wins, not much will change. I think we will be a bit worse off if McCain wins though. The 2 party system is the problem.

Posted by: Jimmy | Sep 13, 2008 12:43:34 AM

This along with his new attack ad indicates significant worrying from team Obama.

Posted by: John | Sep 13, 2008 12:40:31 AM

This shows the desperation of Barack. Truly pathetic.

Posted by: alice | Sep 13, 2008 12:34:14 AM

What da heck! Obama is losing his marbles.

Posted by: EGNAHC08 | Sep 13, 2008 12:29:02 AM

Kravitz, among the names of lobbyist you left off Joe Biden's son. I guess that means that Obama/Biden will live soewhere else if elected so their relatives/lobbyist can live in the Whitehouse.

At least McCain/Plin don't have relatives that are lobbyist like Obama/Biden

Posted by: Jack | Sep 12, 2008 11:53:22 PM

Debra, Good point. Either way if he thought there were 57 states in the United States or 57 Islamic states, it says alot about the intelligence of someone who wants to be President of the United States of America

Posted by: Jack | Sep 12, 2008 11:50:35 PM

McCain has lobbyists on his staff who wanted to send jobs overseas to Airbus.

McCain won't even be running his White House. The evidence is how the lobbyists control his campaign now.

Rick Davis. Randy Schueneman. And more more more.

Posted by: kravitz | Sep 12, 2008 11:50:26 PM

I am guessing the end of republican rule really scares you all because your arguments have gotten ridiculous to the point where we don't even have to rebut them.

First, Joe Liberman has to endlessly correct McCain on war... Then he has to tutor the incompetent choice of Palin in the same. And to top it all off they are learning it all from the idiot neocon Joe Lieberman to begin with.

I don't blame the GOP for being scared... But I do blame them for their failed choices and inability to take responsibility for them.

Posted by: connecticut man1 | Sep 12, 2008 11:38:39 PM

I guess that's all you can bring up is dirt. Thanks for the give and take for the last several hours. It was very educational for my speech and debate team.
God Bless America

Posted by: Scott | Sep 12, 2008 11:28:00 PM

Should we trust America's future to a man known as Senator Hothead? He lacks the temperment and the judgement to be our leader. At the GOP debate in the Reagan library he said he would invade Iraq all over again, even knowing that there were NO weapons of mass destruction. What would he do as president? We don't have enough soldiers to fight all of McCain's battles.