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What a crock of Rightwing BS here!
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Some of you people really sink to new lows of ignorance and idiocy!
A friend retorted "All politicians Lie"
Well, but we've seen an absolute MARATHON of lies these past 8 years from the biggest liars of all: the Repugs!
And as McSAME keeps showing us, they LIE and THEN Forget about it!
And just this morning we see McSAME boostering for "Accountability" for this financial meltdown, when JUST MONDAY he was telling us the economy was doing "Just fine".
What!? He already forgot about that? Certainly he already forgot which party has presided over this wrecked economy these past miserable 8-12 years!

Who is Obama kidding? President Bush proposed rebate checks in January. And it was hardly a new idea, they did it back in 2001, too. Obama sure does love taking credit for stuff he didn't do.

So what is liberals' reaction to the recent CFTC report that says most likely speculation has had no effect on oil prices? This makes democrats bascially flat out wrong on their assessment of the reasons for the energy costs.

Chances are you haven't heard of the report since there has been a near blackout in the media and democrats are busy with the partisan side show energy bill farce. The CFTC says it is hard to track some of the transactions but there is NO evidence of speculation playing a role and actually long term futures decreased this year.

True Patriot:

FACT: Obama was born in Hawaii. He did not "pull himself up" from anywhere in Kansas.

FACT: Obama's "typical white" grandmother was VP of a bank.

He also attended a prestigious school in Hawaii.

What evidence OTHER THAN that from Obama or his books exists to prove he was not only offered jobs with Wall Street firms, but also turned down those same offers?

Elite is an attitude not a dollar amount.

What is a Republican's definition of elitist?
A half black, half white man who pulled himself up from from a poor family in Kansas and worked so hard that he got the highest merit honors possible at Harvard, then turned down huge paying Wall Street jobs to do grass roots work in poor neighborhoods.

Do you ever wonder if Republicans believe the garbage that spews forth from their own mouths?

Hey, Obama doesn't have a rich wife to get money from or more houses than he can count to mortgage if the campaign needs money. So he has to RAISE it.

When will we hear this story on CNN or MSNBC--or even network news channels? They can't wait to report on "lies" in the McCain-Palin campaign! But actual lies from the Obama-Biden campaign are ignored. The general public only hears the Obama-Biden sound bites, not the facts.

Okay, now which of the candidates is supposed to be old, senile, confused and delusional?
Sounds like Obama is having a "Senior moment"....again.

Either that or his "has all the answers", Milli-Vanilli teleprompter wasn't working when he made those untrue remarks.

$1,000,000,000,000 in new Obama Spending

He's only taxine 5% of the people?

Fuzzy Math?

Sure, you the right to think what you want, but will you please not resort to attacks on my intelligence? There are people who support McCain with whom I've been able to have a civil discussion.

And what do you mean corporations don't pay taxes? They do. It's levied on a percentage of their profits.

Look, even if we want to take a hardline stance with Iran or Noth Korea, we must have the means to do so. If we do not have a strong economy, we will not be able to have a strong military either- and we will not be able to deal with any future threats.

We are running in a deficit, and the money has to come from somewhere. The upper-income and the huge corporations-especially the oil companies which are rolling in huge profits are those that can afford to bleed. And government regulations can of course control corporations so they will not be allowed to drive up costs with the addition of extra taxes.

And socialism is more than just giving people a tax cut and credits. It means the state doesn't allow any privatisation and all your banks, land, assets and whatnot are all predominantly controlled by the government. I don't see that happening here anytime soon just because of tax cuts.

This is the worst reporting I've ever seen. How can someone put information such as this on the Web while his only source of information is reportedly off the record Democrats? Unless you have more substantial proof of people saying he had no part the proposal of the Stimulus checks this column is pretty much just editorial trash.

In addition someone can only be guilty if proven so.

So, Obama should have said:

"I presented a plan in January and Congress later passed a stimulus package. Evidently my plan was a good idea, because Congress passed and gave you basically what I proposed"

"Did they choose John McCain's ideas? No, they didn't. Somehow, it seems I have good ideas and John McCain doesn't.

"Just like the Iraqi government and Condi Rice have agreed with my timetable for withdrawl in Iraq. Just like Condi Rice and George Bush and 5 former Secretaries of State (including McCain's own advisor Henry Kissinger) have agreed with my idea to use direct diplomacy with Iran BEFORE we bomb them (instead of bomb first and talk later, like John McCain seems to want to do)."

"Just like how I presented a plan LAST YEAR to regulate a Wall Street financial industry that is out of control, while John McCain is still waiting for a 3 year commission to study his lobbyists plans, before he disregards everything and 'goes with his gut' irregardless."

So, to sum up:

"My ideas and judgement = good"

"John McCain's ideas = wacky and irresponsible"

Gee I wonder if the ladies on The View would confront Obama about this lie?

Obama has to inflate everything because he has no accomplishments of his own.

Haha, I'm glad I'm able to have a civil discussion with you. Sometimes I've been derided as being dumb or stupid by people who support McCain because I don't agree with them. Glad to know there are plenty of people who aren;t like that :)

Well, for me the reason why I don't agree with McCain's policies are because of his approach towards tax cuts-letting the tax cuts for the rich to continue and continue tax cuts for the middle income. The thing is the top 1% of the income ladder contribute around 50% of all taxes paid. Where is McCain going to get the money from to continue funding the Iraq war? I mean, currently we're borrowing money from China and stuff, and they're charging interest.

Someone's going to have to pick up the tab one day. I agree with Obama's policies because he would at least increase taxes on the upper-income and corporations, so he's going to get quite a bit of money to hopefully get rid of the huge deficit. And we do need money if we want to have a war.

I think it is also important that we build up the military back to its original strength before Iraq-in order to face future conflicts. This is something Obama has vowed to do. Iraq was a disaster, and the best we can do now of course it to try and adapt to the situation.

I don't see the Iraq war being won anytime soon, because the Iraq war can be won only when the country is finally stable and not overrun with insurgents. I think the problem is that in order for a democracy to flourish, Iraq needs to have other strong institutions such a free media, research groups and think tanks to support it-otherwise it'll just crumble. Their people's mindsets need to change, and unfortunately this can't happen fast enough. Because they've been under a dictatorship-and colonial rule before that, Iraqis aren't able to properly support a democracy.

His choice of Palin has also been a point of contention for me, since she appears shaky on foreign policy. I mean, considering McCain's age, I think he should have factored in the fact that he might not finish his term and his VP would have to succeed him when choosing his VP.

Haha, I'm glad I'm able to have a civil discussion with you. Sometimes I've been derided as being dumb or stupid by people who support McCain because I don't agree with them. Glad to know there are plenty of people who aren;t like that :)

Well, for me the reason why I don't agree with McCain's policies are because of his approach towards tax cuts-letting the tax cuts for the rich to continue and continue tax cuts for the middle income. The thing is the top 1% of the income ladder contribute around 50% of all taxes paid. Where is McCain going to get the money from to continue funding the Iraq war? I mean, currently we're borrowing money from China and stuff, and they're charging interest.

Someone's going to have to pick up the tab one day. I agree with Obama's policies because he would at least increase taxes on the upper-income and corporations, so he's going to get quite a bit of money to hopefully get rid of the huge deficit. And we do need money if we want to have a war.

I think it is also important that we build up the military back to its original strength before Iraq-in order to face future conflicts. This is something Obama has vowed to do. Iraq was a disaster, and the best we can do now of course it to try and adapt to the situation.

I don't see the Iraq war being won anytime soon, because the Iraq war can be won only when the country is finally stable and not overrun with insurgents. I think the problem is that in order for a democracy to flourish, Iraq needs to have other strong institutions such a free media, research groups and think tanks to support it-otherwise it'll just crumble. Their people's mindsets need to change, and unfortunately this can't happen fast enough. Because they've been under a dictatorship-and colonial rule before that, Iraqis aren't able to properly support a democracy.

His choice of Palin has also been a point of contention for me, since she appears shaky on foreign policy. I mean, considering McCain's age, I think he should have factored in the fact that he might not finish his term and his VP would have to succeed him when choosing his VP.

Grey Matter: You're absolutely right in your assessment; having a strong military is vital to our economy, as having a strong economy is vital to our military. The two items do go hand-in-hand, just as you said.

I think the question of where money will come from if taxes are cut is a really good one, and an important one for us to discuss. I've often heard politicans, on both sides, say that they will cut taxes (or at least cut taxes for the majority of Americans) while they will increase expenditures in a variety of areas. The math just doesn't work out.

I believe that McCain economic plan is the better of the two candidates', but of course that is up to the American people to decide. McCain is looking to repeat what happened during the Clinton years; balance the budget through bipartisan efforts to control spending. McCain has a very lengthy history that can be looked to in order to give credence to his claims that he is adamant about cutting wasteful government spending. Right now, I think we can all agree, our biggest expenditure is the Iraq war, and one of the most important reasons to support McCain is that he will see to it that the Iraq war is ended with victory, making another war in the region very unlikely, whereas Obama has vowed to end the war. It is the opinion of many that pulling troops out before victory can be achieved will lead to another war in the near future, that could be deadlier and costlier. It is better, and less expensive in the long run, to finish what we started so that we concentrate on getting our own country back on track.

When I was deciding which candidate to support, as an Independent, I looked at both candidates' economic plans (as well as their other planned policies) and judged which I thought to be the smartest and the safest, and which plans I thought were the most achievable. I chose to support John McCain, because I think he does have the right plans and the record to back up his claims. Does that mean that I agree with all of his policies? No, but I have yet to find a politician whose policies all my own. Does that mean that I think everyone who votes for the other candidate is stupid and ill-informed? No to that too. I do think that there are a lot of people who are not educated on what it takes to run our country and how different policies and plans will impact our future. And I further think there are a lot of people who gather all of their information from television ads or left (or right) leaning blogs without doing the research needed to have an informed opinion. And that, to me, is just sad.

We might not have had another attack since 9/11- but is it because Al-Qaeda simply chose not to attack yet? Look, the fact is we still have not been able to catch Osama, nor considerably stamp out radical Islam.

Deidra, in any country, maintaining a military imposes a cost on the country. And I suppose it's kind of a chicken and egg question-which comes first? For sure, we need a strong a robust economy to even protect American's own financial security. And if we do not have a strong economy, maintaining a powerful military is out of the question too-how are taxpayers going to give the govt budget to spend when they themselves are suffering? And when our economy weakens, investors flee.

Yes, McCain wants tax cuts-but even for the cooporations. Now, where is he going to get the money from then? He has to get it from SOMEWHERE. We are in a huge hole not just because of the economic policies but because of Iraq. You know, the Chinese are the ones we are billing on our credit card, but of course they are charging interest, and the amount currently has about twelve zeroes behind it, and somebody's going to have to pay for it one day.

We must first have a strong economy before we can have a strong military-we have to be strong financially too. Otherwise, the terrorists don't even have to attack us to weaken us.

Okay, John, I am going to help you here. You have a lot of questions, so I am going to do my best to answer them for you.

First off, BO is not about to take Indiana. Check your facts. According to latest polling, McCain is up by an average of 4.7 in that state. You can find the info on Real Clear Politics.

I'm a McCain supporter and you asked if I have ever been broke. I have nothing to prove it to you, but I can tell you that I spent about a year living in a basement only able to eat rice, and canned green beans and corn while I worked and saved as much money as I could in order to become a productive citizen. I took jobs that I hated just to pay bills, which I barely did. I lived in a scary neighborhood and had a car that worked less than half of the time, and I had absolutely no one to turn to for support, so I had to work hard and I had to educate myself. Now, I am living 100% debt-free in a beautiful home in a wonderful neighborhood, I have a college education and a great life. This is not because of a government program - this is because I worked my butt off to get here. If I can do it, so can others. I know that someone who is dirt poor doesn't have to have assistance, unless they have a physical or mental disability, in order to pull themselves up and become something better than they once were.

Palin is not avoiding the media - she has had interviews and continues to have them. She is also not "avoiding" the law, she is making the smart choice by not standing by while an Obama-supporter driven lawsuit is brought against her over a very trivial matter.

How can McCain give us change? Look at his record. If you want facts, go to OntheIssues.org and you can see his history of votes and quotes regarding just about any issue you wish to find. Using the phrase 'even Karl Rove says the GOP is full of it' is misleading. He said that the ads were going to far on both sides, though Obama's were the worse of the two. Also, pointing out the lobbyists in McCain's campaign is misleading unless you also mention the lobbyists in Obama's (including Biden's son).

Compared to what you are paying in gas and food a tax increase would make very little difference? That depends on what kind of a tax increase you are talking about. If you are talking about a corporate tax increase, then everything you now purchase will increase in price. That includes gas, food, clothes - everything - because that cost is then shifted to you. It can also affect your pay; if you work for a company that is having to pay more for its goods because of corporate tax increases, then it is likely that your pay and benefits will not rise as rapidly as they could. It's all economics and it's all common sense.

What makes me better than you? I don't know. Tell me a little about yourself. Seriously, to address your question, the only reason people say that McCain and Bush are the "same" is because they are from the same party. I urge you to take a long, hard look at McCain's policies and plans - visit his web site. A vote for McCain is not a vote for Bush's third term, no matter how many times Obama and his supporters say it is so.

Name ONE THING the GOP has done to help the economy - here's a huge, massive thing: the GOP supports a strong defense system. Without a strong defense system, we could not be where we are today. While it is true that the war in Iraq costs far too much, it is also true that we have not seen another attack on our soil since 9/11. That's been seven years - pretty startling when you think about it. Our country simply could not be strong, economically or in any other way, without a strong national defense.

As for the debates, did you ever watch any of the primary debates? Just asking. Your take on them may have been very different from mine, but I don't think Obama is strong in the debate. Otherwise, wouldn't he have agreed to at least one of the town hall discussions that McCain suggested? But I agree with you that I'm looking forward to the debates. I think they'll be fun and very informative. I am especially looking forward to the Biden/Palin debate. I obviously a McCain supporter but I love Biden, and especially love him in a debate. I think Palin will be able to hold her own; she's very intelligent and articulate, but I'm curious to see what happens.

And yes, I have checked the polls. Which poll are you checking? I suggest going to Real Clear Politics instead of MSNBC or whatever is telling you that Independents are turning blue.

But good for you for taking such an interest in politics. Although, I might suggest, if you're so poor that you can't afford gas, maybe you should spend some time looking for a job instead of posting to blogs? Just a thought.

John Mc Cain is a lier and only out to take the middle class under. He has been in congress for over 25 years and voted only for the rich. He is Bush over and over and will never change. He does not offer any real change except what we have already had. I will not vote for someone that can not give any real answers to the problems, except to say he will fix it. He is so out of touch it is unreal.

It is time for someone with some real direction to take over. The polls are all wrong and Mc Cain does not have a change in this election. I am Obama and would not vote for Mc Cain if he was the only one running. I can not stand the man!!!!!

It looks like part of my comment was cut off - I was referring to the person(s) who said that McCain is getting a "free pass" from the media - that he isn't under the scrutiny that Obama is.

> What media sources are you tuning into? I'm curious, really, because I'm seeking a media source - ANY media source - that gives McCain and Obama equal treatment. Thus far, I haven't been able to find any source, other than FOX (which is biased in the other direction) that doesn't pound McCain/Palin for the slightest infraction, meanwhile letting Obama's gaffes and slipups slide. Seriously, tell me. Who is it? Not CNN. Not MSNBC, certainly. Even ABC is leaning Obama now. So who? I really want to know.

I too and still voting for Obama because everyone is cheering for McCain and Palin for the wrong reasons and not for the right one's...We all know that regardless of who gets in office will have to raise taxes..People have to take responsibility for their action's and stop blaming the Government...If McCain gets in there will be without a doubt another 4 more yrs of Bush...and women will not have the right to choose what to do with their bodies...and there's not way I'm going for that...Among other issues that's important to me.GO OBAMA...

hey John,
Here is just one example you requested...btw it was a plan to bail out the mess and train wreck Bill C. and Dems created;

from the NY times 9/11/03

The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.
The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.
The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.
This should have been a no-brainer, right? With hindsight, we can see that the Bush administration had accurately diagnosed the problem in the lending market and had a plan to address it. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reluctantly supported the plan. However, Democrats objected (emphases mine):
Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.
”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.
”I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,” Mr. Watt said

Clinton would have fixed this. NObama!

McCharacter and Palin look real interesting right now.

Obama is a modern day version of Claude Rains, The Invisible Man. Even when he allegedly votes in the Senate (a rarity if you can actually see him there voting), It seems that no one, ever sees him there during the alleged votes he casts. Perhaps he has been taking lessons from David Copperfield on how to become an illusionist.

So, "Change we can believe in" has now become "Change we need". Soon to become "Change is ok if it happens" followed by "Change is overated anyway".

It's really anoying that the MSM contorts itself to give the appearance of being even handed with the candidates. For example one story about a McCain untruth, one story about an Obama untruth. When infact, the McCain campaign is in an all-out frontal asault with blatant lies, and there is very little from the media calling them out. Instead it's "both sides are doing it" What a bunch of false crap. It's as if they want to make sure its a close election for their vested interest. The news media is pretty sad when they let obvios lies go unchallenged.

""was the only candidate to propose a fiscal stimulus plan centered on tax rebate checks for the broad majority of Americans. The bipartisan bill that passed less than a month later was centered on rebate checks to the broad middle class along the lines of what Obama proposed."

That is true."

But though the bill that eventually passed more closely resembled Obama's than either Clinton's or McCain's, those involved in the drafting of the legislation say it was more a matter of agreeing on a good idea and was not a matter of, as Obama claimed, his proposal having "formed the basis for a bipartisan stimulus package that passed the Congress."

Doesn't sound like he's inflating anything. So the bill looks like Obama's proposals and that's just a coincidence? What's he supposed to think? He proposed something and other people proposed something else and the end result looked like his proposal but it's somehow dishonest to say he shaped the bill? Please.

We'll probably be out of gas and money, but if need be i'm gonna ride a bike to the polls, and i'm voting for Obama and Bidon as an Independent.

Be smart, Obama 08!

Have you checked the polls? It seems Indiana is turning Blue, good for them!

i look forward to the debates, obama is gonna OWN mcCain, and Bidon is gonna OWN Palin.

Name ONE THING the GOP has done to help the economy!

Explaining this to the GOP is like trying to teach a 1st grader algebra, you just CAN'T get it.

What do you expect him to do, if you ask me it's a smart move. Obama can't just go to the closest lobbyist and ask for money...he has to EARN it. True old time GOP would be rolling over in their grave at that comment.

Some GOP here might be able to afford risking another 4 years of the last 8, but me and my family can't. What makes you so much better than me?

Compared to what i'm paying for gas and food, a tax increase would make very little difference.

How can McCain give us change, when his campaign leaders are Lobbyists and former Bush campaigners? Give me FACTS. Even Karl Rove says the GOP is full of it. PROVE me wrong.

Why is Palin avoiding the media and the LAW? Provide facts and links, nothing else is acceptable.

Have any of you McCain supporters every been BROKE, i'm not talking about can't afford a brand new car broke, I mean Mac n' Cheese broke, I mean i can't afford to drive to work broke.

Among others, BO is about to take Indiana for the first time, good job GOP.

---"The article wasn't really an opinion piece;"---
Posted by: Stumper Attcked by Brownshirts

You mean you don't think it was an opinion piece, or that you didn't intend for it to be an opinion piece.

Assuming the data is accurate, the data doesn't necessarily support the conclusion you made - you overlooked the possibility that her popularity needs to be fostered by maintaining a higher profile, that people might feel she's being to heavily managed, that they don't know enough about her record and they feel they should know more at this point, the find the distraction without reference to issues tiring. Because all of those possible scenarios she's got the ability to control by deviating from her current routine. As a matter of fact she's going to be doing more interviews and starting to answer questions on the stump.

Maybe the bubble bursting is inevitable as you said, but you didn't reference any data that would logically lead you to conclude that that was the only possible scenario.

Obama would say you lied.

Oh, and thank God for Obama's stimulus package. I was able to buy a 35 inch flat panel TV with 1080 DPI at Walmart. Unfortunately, now I can't afford cable TV because I spent my $600.00 on the TV! Oh well. Obama will change everything, giving me my free healthcare, free cable, free bus pass and more free government hand-outs than I am already getting. Life will be much, much better for the likes of people like me!

This is all Bush's fault. Bush should have regulated all American corporations and made them singular government entities, run by a Super-Federal administration. All companies in America should be government owned and managed- like China. Look how well China is doing in the world economy!! A vote for Obama is a vote for this type of change!! VOTE FOR OBAMA- the REAL "red state" candidate!

So McCain's a liar but now Obama's a liar and a hypocrite for calling McCain a liar. Obama's stupid too - how many politicians have ever gotten through campaigns without relying on quotes taken out of context, plays on words, distortions and elaboration? It was just a matter of time before he stepped into it.

So let me get this straight... Obama's plan most closely reflected what all the brightest minds in congress crafted and passed when all was said and done?

Then why shouldn't he take credit for shaping it? Just because all the other pols in Washinton don't want to give him credit, it sounds like they took most of his ideas.

Now I ask you... do you want the guy who is proposing ideas that the majority are settling on as the best, or the guy that admits he doesn't know diddly about the economy?

Furthermore, McCain, what difference does it make that Obama missed the vote if everyone knew it was going to pass (81-16 is no squeaker)? He was out battling on the campaign trail to make it to the White House this year.

And for that I applaud him, because he's the best candidate for the position.

Obama/Biden '08!!!

Jake Tapper is one of the ONLY people left in the media with a shred of integrity.
You call both Obama and McCain out when they're wrong.
The rest of the media are shills of the Obama campaign and only call out McCain.

I GUARANTEE YOU, the rest of the media will just ignore this. They are so obsessed with helping Obama win the election they've sold their souls to George Soros, MoveOn.org and the Daily.Kos

Holy Toledo, so let's see if we understand Obama's tax plan for small businesses... Raise payroll taxes, raise taxes on those small business owners, and now make them pay 9.25 minimum wage? You do realize that those 3 things right there are a death blow to lots of employment by those small businesses. you think unemployment is high now, let those all come thru and small businesses will just become family run only. Basic Economics here is pretty simple, these plans here will be a disaster for America!!!!

I was an Obama idea promted by request from his grass roots campaign back in January to push for a second stimulus check after Bush's first. It was as early as last fall that another one was needed. The Wall Street problems is due to people changing the rules and facts to pump the economy. The same thing is happening with the Republicans pushing lies vs. the truth to pump up their bid for President. The 'Keating Five' Twenty Year itch is back.

These Republicans sound like Democrats don't pay tax, otherwise how do you explain their argument? There ar many small business owners who are Democrats.
Is there anyone who loves paying tax? I don't think there is.

Obama is such a phony!!! And I used to support him.... where's the hope Barack ???

Is there anyone responding who can read? I don't think so. Many of you just eat what the media is serving at any one time.

James Marsden writes: That is liberalspeak for "so what if my guy lied! Everybody lies! The other guy lied worse! Yeah...that's the ticket!"

No, James Marsden, it is just good horse sense. The Republican leadership has run this country into the ditch and I am sick of it. Period.

McCAIN plans to: Leave minimum wage at $7.25 an hour, which is where current law will take it to by 2009.

OBAMA plans to: RAISE minimum wage to $9.50 an hour by 2011.

* So who really cares about the middle class, it is NOT John McCain who has 7 HOUSES.

* It is NOT John McCain who has voted 19 times AGAINST a minimum-wage increase. (This is the pathetic actions from a guy who has received his paycheck from taxpayers for the 26 years he has been in Washington)

John McCain is a disgusting person, and he does not care about the poor, or the middle class who are struggling to try to get by everyday!!

According to the ``Non-partisan Center for Tax Policy``, Obama’s tax plan would offer greater tax relief, tax cuts for low and middle-income earners. Obama`s offers a LARGER tax cut than McCain would for low and middle-income earners.

PROOF as seen on CNN Money.com:

IF YOU EARN THE FOLLOWING AMOUNTS you will get the following tax CUTS from each candidate:

*EARN Under $19,000
McCain cut ($19) - OBAMA cut ($597)

*EARN $19,000 to $38,000
McCain cut ($113) - OBAMA cut ($892)

*EARN $38,000 to $66,000
McCain cut ($319) OBAMA cut ($1042)

*EARN $66,000 to $112,000
McCain cut ($1009) OBAMA cut ($1290)

*EARN $112,000 to $161,000
McCain cut ($2614) OBAMA cut ($2204)

*EARN $227,000 to $603,000
McCain cut ($7871) OBAMA cut (-$12)

*JOHN MCCAIN CAN TALK, AND TALK ALL HE WANTS ABOUT CARING ABOUT THE MIDDLE CLASS, BUT THE FACT IS JOHN McCAIN WILL GIVE THE POOREST AMERICANS ``LESS`` TAX CUTS THAN HE WILL GIVE THE RICHEST AMERICANS --- THAT IS NOT CARING ABOUT THE MIDDLE CLASS MR. JOHN MCCAIN!!!

"Whether Obama exaggerated is a minor point in the scheme of things..."

That is liberalspeak for "so what if my guy lied! Everybody lies! The other guy lied worse! Yeah...that's the ticket!"

Never trust liberals when they tell you something. If they say the sun is yellow, always look up just to make sure.

Whether Obama exaggerated is a minor point in the scheme of things and certainly does not reflect adversely on Obama in any significant way. I wouldn't care whether he exaggerated or not...this is typical of campaigns...they all exaggerate on occasion. What will determine my vote in the end is the idiocy of the past eight years...a president lying to get us into disastrous quagmire in Iraq, a president whose leadership has been the worst in history and McCain wanting to keep the lunacy up and at the same levels when we are having a meltdown in this country. We desperately need new leadership and Obama may not be perfect but he is certainly head and shoulders over the sleazy McCain.

Sharon: See, that's why there's already $20 TRILLION US DOLLARS OFFSHORE, the rich feel overtaxed. That money is not in circulation, and if it were, there'd be a big economic boom from just that! And if you tax rich people beyond squeeze threshold, they just quit business, go black market, under the table offshore, send jobs out of the country.

Would YOU pay 70% of your income even if you were rich? No, you'd figure a way around the ridiculous. Rich people USUALLY didn't get that way by being stupid.

"People cling to guns and religion..."

This is why the middle class, especially white women, are leaving the Democrat Party in droves - because Obama looks down at them as worthless little people except when it comes to their votes that he needs.

Palin is so popular because people feel a kinship with her - that she is one of us. Obama is one of THEM - the rich Hollywood and limousine liberal jetset that everyone outside of LA detests.

Lee

Yep... this attempt at trying to be tough by the obama camp is embarrassing!

"OBAMA plans to: RAISE minimum wage to $9.50 an hour by 2011."

And how does he plan to pay for that, may I ask?

Especially when he is jacking up payroll taxes and taxes on small businesses and those taxpayers who make over $250,000 a year, which includes small businessmen and businesswomen (who file as individuals and not businesses).

Once again, Democrats display their lack of knowledge about capitalism and how it feels to work hard and keep what you earn.

James Marsden

yea OMG.. Obama probably made a comment liekt hat to the hollywood crowd tonight that was 28 thousand a plate... "People cling to guns and religion and have antipathy for peopel who arent like them"

"yea there is a reason everry Democratic candidate that did well on a GE won states like PA and OH and TX and CA etc in the primaries.. Obama won none of those!"

How hilarious will it be if Obama spends all of this money to win a Colorado, or a New Mexico, and at the same time he loses a Pennsylvania, or a Michigan. He is losing in Ohio and Indiana, and every historian knows that the candidate who wins two of the three key states of Pennsylvania, Florida, and Ohio, has always won the election.

McCain is leading in two of these, and is within 2 points of the third.

How I will laugh at the Dems for spending hundreds of millions and get fewer electoral votes than they did four years earlier.

John McCain claims that he will provide health coverage to the uninsured but studies show that John McCain`s health care plan WILL HAVE NO IMMEDIATE EFFECT on the number of people who currenlty have no health insurance!

Also the study showed that John McCain`s health care plan would actually result in MORE PEOPLE WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE, (20 million more people will probably lose their health insurance because of John McCain`s plan), BECAUSE John McCain`s health care plans would lead to employers DROPPING health benefits that they currently provide. Employers WILL NO LONGER offer their workers coverage because of John McCain`s plan

*SO IF YOU HAVE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE RIGHT NOW FROM YOUR EMPLOYER -- John McCain`s health care plan will cause your employer to drop you!! You will have NO health care coverage at all!!!

*If You DO NOT HAVE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE, John McCain`s plan will do NOTHING to help you!! You will still have NO health care coverage if John McCain is elected!!

McCAIN plans to: Leave minimum wage at $7.25 an hour, which is where current law will take it to by 2009.

OBAMA plans to: RAISE minimum wage to $9.50 an hour by 2011.

* So who really cares about the middle class, it is NOT John McCain who has 7 HOUSES.

* It is NOT John McCain who has voted 19 times AGAINST a minimum-wage increase. (This is the pathetic actions from a guy who has received his paycheck from taxpayers for the 26 years he has been in Washington)

John McCain is a disgusting person, and he does not care about the poor, or the middle class who are struggling to try to get by everyday!!

"This simply proves voting republican coost us money"

It doesn't "coost" me anything.

It costs me when Democrats get in and jack my tax burden up. It costs my family more every time Democrats want to get their greedy little hands on my wallet, or my bank account, or my 401(K), or something else I own, like my gun.

James Marsden

yea there is a reason everry Democratic candidate that did well on a GE won states like PA and OH and TX and CA etc in the primaries.. Obama won none of those!

Art In Dayton

I suspect everyone is thinking the same way as you.. they will be turned off by the proverbial wet fish handshake campaign and vote for mccain thinkign that mccain will win anyway or that they cant possibly offset the obamabots so why try.. anyway it will be an 80 20 landslide because Obamas speech this morning was worse than lackluster

James A. Johnson - former Fannie Mae CEO and Obama Advisor

Just cost you billions in taxes

Franklin Raines – former Fannie Mae CEO and Obama Advisor

Just cost you billions in taxes

These are Obama's advisors. So what is it that Obama is going to reform?

Posted by: drjohn | Sep 16, 2008 9:14:14 PM

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Bush and the republican party's philosophy of non regulation of business has cost americans billions.

The savings and loan fiasco under George Bush's daddy cost americans billions. Enron, and Worldcom cost american billions. Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers and AIG is costing americans billions. And the Iraq war the ultimate rat hole is costing America trillions with a T and you want voters to replace Bush with more republicans? You must be joking?

Posted by: McCain/Palin not ready to lead | Sep 16, 2008 9:35:04 PM

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This simply proves voting republican coost us money and jobs and is too extreme and expensive for america.

"yea what a genius the party faithful was for hanging out in traditional red states they have no hope of winning..."

How hilarious is it that Obama is spending all his time in Colorado and Montana and New Mexico, when he is losing in places like Ohio and Indiana and Michigan and Minnesota, and is barely hanging on in New York and Pennsylvania?

Obama could very well be the first man to spend $400 million dollars and get less electoral votes than the moron idjit jacka$$ guy who ran before him, John Kerry.

James Marsden

yea what a genius the party faithful was for hanging out in traditional red states they have no hope of winning and they may win only those states lol

@ John:

It's paid Obama bloggers like you, that re-enforce my conviction to vote for McCain/Palin. You actually get people ticked and turn away from Obama. In reality, your mouth is losing the election for Obama.