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Obama: McCain Can't Decide if He's Goldwater or Kucinich

September 18, 2008 6:02 PM

ESPANOLA, NM -- In a dusty town square in the town of Espanola in the north central region of the battleground state of New Mexico, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., Thursday afternoon continued to assail opponent Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., as someone who would do or say anything to get elected.

"All of a sudden, he's has become a populist," Obama said. "Now he's unleashed an angry tirade against all the insiders and lobbyists who happened to have supported him for the last twenty-six years – the same folks who are running his campaign right now."

Obama's criticisms were entirely focused on McCain's positions on the economy, with the Democrat portraying his GOP rival as a flip-flopping poseur.

"John McCain can't decide whether he's Barry Goldwater or Dennis Kucinich," Obama said, referring to the libertarian free-market conservative Republican and the left-wing Democrat who opposes free trade. "He's not clear about what he thinks or what he believes."

"Well, I have a message for Senator McCain," Obama continued. "You can't just run away from your long-held views or your life-long record. You can’t erase twenty-six years of support for the very policies and people who helped bring in this disaster with one week of rants. You can't just erase all that with one week worth of rants. What we need is honest talk and real solutions."

Obama made mention of McCain’s pledge today to fire Securities and Exchange Commissioner Chris Cox, which a president does not have the legal ability to do in a literal sense, though certainly political pressures can be brought to bear to force a commissioner to resign.

"He's calling for the firing of the Securities and Exchange Commission(er)," Obama said, "Well, I think that's all fine and good, but here's what I say: In the next 47 days, you can fire the whole Trickle-Down, On-Your-Own, Look-the-Other-Way crowd in Washington who has led us down this disastrous path. Don't just get rid of one guy, get rid of this administration, get rid of this philosophy, get rid of the do nothing approach and put somebody in there who is going to fight for you."

Obama noted that McCain earlier this week said that "the fundamentals of the economy are strong."

"This comment – this comment was out so out of touch that even George Bush’s White House couldn’t agree with it when they were asked about it," Obama said. "They had to distance theirself (sic) from John McCain."

Obama was referring to the fact that on Wednesday White House press secretary Dana Perino refused to answer reporters' questions as to whether the fundamentals of the economy are strong, saying only that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson has asserted "that as he looks at our country and compares it with other countries, that we are in a position of strength to be able to deal with this crisis, and it's going to take us a while to work through it."

"I recognize that this issue of strength has come into the 2008 election," Perino explained. "I'm not going to try to get involved in it."

Obama today accused McCain of not only flip-flopping on the government bailout of insurance giant AIG, but lying about Obama’s response by claiming the Democrat opposes it.

"On Tuesday, (McCain) said the government should stand aside and allow one of the nation's largest insurers AIG, to collapse," Obama said. "I mean he said this in three different interviews despite the possibility that it would put millions of Americans at risk. But by Wednesday, he changed his mind. And today he accused me of not supporting what the Treasury and the Federal Reserve Bank did with AIG despite no evidence whatsoever that that’s what I had said."

In truth, Obama has not taken a position on the bailout of AIG, one of the most significant developments in the financial sector in modern history.

Obama blamed much of the current crisis on former Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas, a former co-chair of the McCain campaign who resigned after controversial comments that the U.S. was in a "mental recession"
and had become "sort of a nation of whiners."

Calling Gramm "one of the leading architects of the de-regulation in Washington that led directly to this mess on Wall Street" Obama pointed out that Gramm "also happens to be the architect of John McCain’s economic plan. There was talk that John McCain wanted to put in charge of the Treasury Department if John McCain was elected."

The Democrat said that when he was "warning about the danger ahead on Wall Street months ago because of the lack of oversight, Sen. McCain was telling the Wall Street Journal — and I quote —‘ I'm always for less regulation.' This is what he said just a few months ago. Except now, with the magnitude of the crisis apparent even to the Bush White House, John McCain wants to reverse himself, he wants to reverse course. Now, all of a sudden, he has become a populist."

-- Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

September 18, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (252)

User Comments

Mariann,obviously you are an angry white female who is extremely misinformed. You have no idea what the black population thinks of Obama but we do know what we think of you and your bitter talk. Your reasons for voting for McCain and Palin are yours and yours alone--thank God! But to try and defame Obama by stating the falseness of him being a muslim or the foul play on his name and all your other crazy accusations is reflective of your hardened heart--something that you will have to deal with way pass this election. Stick to the facts not to the outrageous accusations. The only person you are hurting is yourself. I can only say thank God you are not running for President.

Posted by: Debra | Sep 22, 2008 12:21:20 PM

riley: Obama will use anyone he can to win the presidency. He so desperate to make history like MLK he would doublecross anyone to get it. He did it to the woman running against him for the senate and she never campaigned again. He is the worst and most underhanded candidate that ever ran for the presidenty. Nancy and Obama went behind the scenes to pressure the superdelegates to vote for Obama so Hillary wouldn't become the nominee.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 21, 2008 5:09:31 PM

linda n carolina. If McCain is punch drunk you must be drinking the same booze. And I am sure all this generation of college students are drugging and boozing every night. Are you one of them? The educated like the news media said. Don't make me laugh. Do you know how many have to drop out because they are too dumb to master the course. That's what drugs and booze do to you. Obama is an example. Just listen to him.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 21, 2008 5:02:03 PM

McCain is right. Obama thinks of solutions for himself not the country. He is all for himself and he never was for this country. Obama read so many books on MLK it went to his head. Now, he wants to make the same history by using the American people for his own benefit. And the news just stated that Obama had deals with Johnson whom he wanted to be his VP at one time. Can you imagine two crooks in the white house?

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 21, 2008 3:50:54 PM

James Danley: I hate to differ with the people in Ohio but Obama is not black or white will never be either because he is the offspring of a black/white marriage. Find it on the internet. I have known that for years. However, the blacks resent using that name. They refer to him as black and so do many white people. That's too bad because he isn't.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 21, 2008 3:41:25 PM

foreclosure: I hope McCain is a republican because I am a democrat voting for him. Why would I vote for Osama(Obama)Hussein? He has the name of a terrorist. What was his father and mother thinking? Well, his mother never married a white man so you can't expect him to have a white man's name. He is half Kenyan and that country is in a turmoil all the time. If Obama was raised there he would want to run that country just like he wants to run this one. But that's too bad. It isn't going to happen.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 21, 2008 3:35:48 PM

Al: And Obama copied the word change from the speech of Robert Kennedy. Obama only knows the change in his pocket or how to change his clothes. There are no changes he knows how to make without extensive help. Of course maybe Ayers the professor who bombed here three times and give him some advice. And there is Wright always preaching about America and white people.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 21, 2008 3:19:00 PM

Jess: Look at me I am a democrat voting for McCain and Palin. I certainly am not going to vote for a candidate that doesn't have the brains to run this country. But he has Biden to do that job behind the scenes. If Obama is elected he will enjoy the white house along with Ayers, Farrakhan, Wright, Father P and Rezko when he's out of jail.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 21, 2008 3:15:05 PM

foreclosure: And don't you wish you just had 10% of McCain and Cindy's money? And they have it like the Clinton's do. And its all for them, nothing for you.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 21, 2008 3:10:45 PM

foreclosure: What needs are you talking about. If your talking about the economy what's wrong with the economy? People are stopping at gas stations all day long, shooping for food with baskets filled to the top. Foreclosures are the fault of the buyer's and banks. Banks should not have given loans to people buying a condo or house with no money down or only 5% down. The down payment should be 30 to 35%. Banks are the cause of their own wrong decisions and the same with the buyer's. They wanted to live like a rich person with a beer pocket. Well, now they have to rent.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 21, 2008 3:07:13 PM

Curtis: I don't believe any poliician lies with pigs. Your picking up too much of Obama's bad language. And for a college graduate he isn't that smart. He is getting a lot of help from former president Clinton's advisor's and believe me he needs it. You can take bets on it Biden will be running the country behind the scenes if Obama is elected. Besides that, this country could go into a 1929 depression. Obama talks about change, the words he took from the book of RFK speeches. He also used his speeches and added a few words of his own. Obama cannot do anything on his own without help. For a college graduate what happened?

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 21, 2008 3:00:23 PM

Curtis, I respect your opinion but I beg to differ with you, picking Palin was a brilliant move, it showed just how much of a maverick McCain is, showed how serious he is about changing D.C. and really made the Dems scramble. Palin will help win some women votes, has the backing of the NRA, is pro life, is for drilling in Alaska and is a bit of a maverick herself. The "Mainstream" D.C. politician has had their time and it is obvious they cannot or willnot change so I have changed my vote to the Maverick McCain.

Posted by: Al | Sep 20, 2008 11:43:45 PM

Lets see alot of you wanted change back in 2006 so you voted the dems back in control of both houses, how has that worked out? Oh I forgot you blame Bush for all the problems currently facing the country even though the president DOESN'T MAKE LAW, Congress and the Senate do and who is controlling both of them. I do agree with the DEMS on one area, we do need change, keep the GOP in the white house and vote the GOP BACK INTO power in both houses.

Posted by: Al | Sep 20, 2008 11:39:40 PM

One must feel rather badly for Sen.McCain
Being such a maverick in a conformist party,lacking support from the true believers, it must be pure torture for him to attempt to run on any record he had made. After all,you cannot lay with pigs your entire career and expect to come out clean. I know he is writhing, in pain, twisting from side to side, right and left.... Trying this and that to ease his pain of impending loss. I know how extreme pain can make reality seem to be anything that might mitigate it... This psychic distress may even make ill formed decisions seem plausible
... that explains Sarah P. being selected. Daily I cannot help but feel badly for him that his campaign has hit bottom so hard. The level of lies and distortions is incredible. Standing on the stages and podiums, with the stance and posture of an albino T-Rex, I wonder if John is becoming extinct too?
Twisting and turning from lie to fabrication,over and over , I see the agony, and hope on Nov. 4 we can cause his pain to cease...

Posted by: Curtis | Sep 20, 2008 10:50:02 PM

What the ostrich and the Republicans have in common.Let me guess
Both hide their head on the sand and pretend everything is fine
An ostrich bury its head in the sand and pretend everything is fine
Republicans do the same and follow McCain
America and the world is suffering with the blunders of Bush Administration
The economy have crumple and the prosperity of many people are under risk not only in America but also worldwide.
John McCain and Sarah Palin promise of change: Is a change to Nowhere
This election is not only about some bridge in Alaska it is about all the bridges and roads in all the o United States because they are all crying out for repairs and maintenance. This is because for the last 8 years the Bush and the Republicans have spent enormous amounts of dollars to build up Iraq and they have forgotten about the needs of their own country.

Posted by: foreclosure | Sep 20, 2008 5:08:34 AM

Was hilarious to watch the face of Cindy McCain, when Sen., McCain on his speech talks about the big salaries of the CEO’s, and how greedy they are!

Posted by: foreclosure | Sep 20, 2008 5:02:34 AM

John McCain and Sarah Palin want to be elected like Republicans but they are trying to avoid to discuss issues critical for the American families. And portraying themselves like reformers because they are embarrassed of the last 8 years of the Republicans –Bush Administration.
Is the Republican Party in the need of urgent reform because is out of touch with the everyday life of the American people

Posted by: foreclosure | Sep 20, 2008 4:59:38 AM

I don’t have any problem in characterizing McCain .
He is a Republican! According to his own campaign, Republicans are corrupt and incompetent.
Obviously he has inside information!

Posted by: foreclosure | Sep 20, 2008 4:45:36 AM

re:Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 19, 2008 11:13:27 AM

"McCain warned and introduced legislation in 2006"

McCain cosponsored a bill in 2005 that was reintroduced in 2006.

Obama authored a bill that was intro in 2006 and re intro'd in 2007.

Neither bill went anywhere
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Why wasn't Obama able to work with other Dems to get his bill passed?

Posted by: Dave in lv | Sep 19, 2008 5:48:01 PM

re:Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 19, 2008 11:13:27 AM

"McCain warned and introduced legislation in 2006"

McCain cosponsored a bill in 2005 that was reintroduced in 2006.

Obama authored a bill that was intro in 2006 and re intro'd in 2007.

Neither bill went anywhere
------------------------------
Weren't both of these and other reform bills blocked by Chris Dodd (Dem), Barney Frank (Dem) and other Dems?

Posted by: Dave in lv | Sep 19, 2008 5:45:26 PM

Debra wrote: "It's interesting how the race card is being mentioned. Good let's get real people will not vote for BO simply because he is 50% AA."

What is really interesting--make that OUTRAGEOUS--is that two Obama surrogates, Bob Hagan of Youngstown, OH, and Tom Letson of Warren, OH, claim that people in Ohio are NOT voting for Obama BECAUSE he is black. In essence they are saying not voting for Obama means you are racist. Certainly there may be some racists who won't vote for Obama, but there are tens of millions of voters, like myself, who are NOT racist but will not vote for Sen. Obama because we totally disagree with his socialistic ideology.

Posted by: James Danley | Sep 19, 2008 4:29:51 PM

Harry wrote, "Why doesn't Obama call the 90% of AA voting for him racist--since they won't vote for a white candidate?

Kind of hard to believe all 90% actually approve of BO's policies. I bet over 50% don't like him, and don't like that he constantly panders to whites.

So how many are voting for him just because he is black?"

Harry, Harry, what the hell are you talking about? In case you were in shell and have just come out, let me give a piece of information: African Americans have voted for white democrats in huge numbers for a long time. Now if someone was talking about the primary, I would understand. Then again, African Americans have always voted for white candidates. I particularly do not see a problem with people having the first opportunity to vote for someone like them and jump on it.

Posted by: D | Sep 19, 2008 4:08:59 PM

Obama is right. McCain doesn't know who he is. Up until securing the nomination the conservative base was denouncing him as "liberal". And their reaction to him was tepid until Palin was provided as a gift to rally them. Conservatives never liked McCain. And now McCain is trying to take a staunch conservative line. Problem is it conflicts with his more pragmatic view of the world. So, we see the split personality of McCain...

Posted by: indy_voter | Sep 19, 2008 1:59:36 PM

It's interesting how the race card is being mentioned. Good let's get real people will not vote for BO simply because he is 50% AA. It's unfortunate that the hearts of such individuals are so hardened and blind to anyone but themselves. I happen to be one of the 90% AA that is voting for Obama not because he's black but because I agree with his policies not all but most. And FYI AA have been voting for white candidates in case you haven't notice since there has been a president in office and we have had the right to vote. One more thing if I did decide to vote for BO because he's black it's my choice many WA have been voting that way for years.

Posted by: Debra | Sep 19, 2008 1:52:51 PM

Ryan, you know that McCain wasn't about blanket deregulation...read Tapper's other post on this...WP editorial...

Posted by: Wade | Sep 19, 2008 1:44:03 PM

Why doesn't Obama call the 90% of AA voting for him racist--since they won't vote for a white candidate?

Kind of hard to believe all 90% actually approve of BO's policies. I bet over 50% don't like him, and don't like that he constantly panders to whites.

So how many are voting for him just because he is black?

Posted by: harry | Sep 19, 2008 12:22:04 PM

Obama based his campaign on hope--yet he tells voters to get in the face of neighbors if they disagree with him.

He says he transcends race--but sits back as his ads and surrogates inflame racial tensions.

Does he actually think this will get more whites to vote for him?

Who is he talking to--the 95% of AA that are voting for him. The hispanics who are smart enough to see he is using them?

Posted by: riley | Sep 19, 2008 12:15:39 PM

Starting to look like Obama is desperate enough to use racial tensions to win votes.

He can't win based on his record or his character--so he uses his race again.

Biden saying we should vote for him because he is black. The proObama media suggesting he isn't far ahead in the polls because America is racist.

Others threatening race wars if he loses.

BO running ads to inflame Hispanics.

Quite hypocritical considering it is Obama that willingly sat in a racist church for 20 years.

Posted by: sally | Sep 19, 2008 12:09:52 PM

Yeah right...and Obama can't decide if he's Kennedy or Martin Luther King!

Posted by: Ed | Sep 19, 2008 11:44:29 AM

So proud of you Senator Obama, stay on the issues, respond forcefully, speak the truth. We support you.


Yes we can!

Obama Biden 2008

Posted by: voter in PA | Sep 19, 2008 11:38:07 AM

LOL, Half the time I get the Feeling Mccain doesnt even know his own freaking name! He lies so much that even he doesnt know what is truth anymore! Yeah, We really need this idiot leading us for the next four years! LOL

Jessup

Posted by: Jessup Sommers | Sep 19, 2008 11:26:42 AM

This is Obama the hypocrite playing the same distorted sound-bite sort of politics he loves to decry. His promise to usher in a new kind of politics is a farce. He is more of the same, only with less experience. The Washington Post nailed him for it this morning.

Posted by: NJH | Sep 19, 2008 11:26:04 AM

The only connection I see between Kucinich and Mc Cain is that both have wives young enough to be their daughters. Dennis is the clear winner.

Posted by: ricky | Sep 19, 2008 11:24:28 AM

"McCain warned and introduced legislation in 2006"

McCain cosponsored a bill in 2005 that was reintroduced in 2006.

Obama authored a bill that was intro in 2006 and re intro'd in 2007.

Neither bill went anywhere in the Senate.

Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 19, 2008 11:13:27 AM

"It wasn't that long ago that the faux outrage du jour was at of the use of "Democrat Party" instead of "Democratic Party"."

Democrat party is right winger favorite especially freepers.

Guess Concerned isn't an independent as he claims.

Yes shocking that concerned would lie about such a thing.

Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 19, 2008 11:12:14 AM

And Sen. Obama can't decide whether he is the UNITER or the DIVIDER.

Sen. Obama has intentionally lied about statements by Rush Limbaugh on illegal immigration--taken them completely out of context--in a new political ad (en Espanol) in order to exploit and even inflame racial tensions in the Hispanic community for political gain.

Sen. Obama is absolutely dispicable! The ad quotes Rush Limbaugh as saying "...MEXICANOS ESTUPIDOS Y NO CALIFICADOS." ("...Mexicans are stupid and unqualified.") and "CIERRA TU BOCA O LARGATE!" ("Shut your mouth our get out!").

Google, Limbaugh on Obama Ad, and read about it yourself.

Posted by: James Danley | Sep 19, 2008 10:22:19 AM

Who is the one following Bush's disastrous policies?

McCain follows whichever stand looks more politically viable at the moment, judging from his amazing flip-flopping:

No bail out! Bail out! Oh, DON'T bail out! Bail out!...

Shows he didn't put thought into it, otherwise he would've been able to explain his rationale.

Posted by: Grey Matter | Sep 19, 2008 8:54:10 AM

Obama sits around and waits to see what everybody else has to say before he makes up his mind about anything....

Remember in the debates: "Well, I have to go along with Hillary on that one....and that one.....and that one....and that one........., etc, etc."

Never a thought for himself, but yet thinks he's qualified to run the free world..

And now the son of a DEMOCRATIC legislator from Tennessee has been identified as the criminal who hacked Palin's personal email account.

We new all along it was going to be some Democrat somewhere who did this....

Posted by: Lee | Sep 19, 2008 8:46:16 AM

Except blame, blame, blame, what can Obama offer?
Nothing!!!

Posted by: beth | Sep 19, 2008 8:40:41 AM

Since Obama wouldn't even take a stand on the AIG bailout, it's disingenuous for him to criticize McCain for his view.

McCain is a leader. Obama is a follower.

Posted by: marylou | Sep 19, 2008 7:32:02 AM

This whole artical is based upon what Obama wishes were true. McCain warned and introduced legislation in 2006. Obama's worst crisis since depression. I guess he doesn't realize the importance of WORDS. John McCain was correct in his statement that the fundamentals are strong unless Barney Frank, Reid and Pelosi. Obama yesterday stressed the importance of remaining claim, but as usual he is a little slow on the uptake. I believe that he and Biden should write checks for the hundreds of thousands of dollars they received from Fannie & Freddie before they look to the taxpayer. Unlike Obama when I say taxpayer, I am talking about the 60% that actually pay taxes.

Posted by: ubu2008 | Sep 19, 2008 7:17:48 AM

Has anyone noticed how Obama avoided mentioning a solution to AIG at all. He waited until after McCain made a statement saw what the Fed's did with the bail out then attacked McCain on his stand and called it flip flopping. McCain's right voting present is not something a President can do.

Well Pelosi and her gang got called to a meeting with the Treasury Secretary last night. She did not call the meeting the Treasury Secretary did and I would guess Pelosi and her crew will be eating some items in the proposal that is finally agreed on that she and Obama will not like. After all when as Reid stated "no one knows what to do" and Nancy said we will just take a vacation until after November 4th and Obama would make no statement what so ever about what he would do well is that what you want from a leader.

After all the bail outs are not what anyone would like in a perfect world but some one had to stop the boat from sinking and at least McCain recognized that fact. What comes out of the meeting last night will most likely be similar to what McCain proposed.

Let's see when Obama changes his position on something because of new information it is permissible because a leader needs to be flexible and when McCain does it's flip flopping. Ya'll are to to funny.

Posted by: Jace | Sep 19, 2008 5:52:52 AM

"(you mean Democrats not Democratics)"

No, I don't mean 'Democrats'. It wasn't that long ago that the faux outrage du jour was at of the use of "Democrat Party" instead of "Democratic Party". Oh what an offensive slight it was! So, out of deference to liberal sensibilities I use the term "Democratic" in lieu of the highly offensive term, to progressives, "Democrat". Thankfully, the Democratics are able to use the race card now, which they do as often as possible, to bully, shame, or silence anyone and everyone to the Right of Saul Alinsky.

Posted by: Concerned in OH | Sep 19, 2008 5:29:38 AM

Were Hannity's 'gotcha' questions, planned or a scripted oversight?

1)"PALIN: Didn't see them but I hear that they're all over the place and I'm just hoping that they're going spend a lot of money in our local communities and bolster the economy up there.

HANNITY: So you're hoping that the economy will...

PALIN: Absolutely.
She knew the question before she answered.

2)HANNITY: Why do we need to win in Iraq? Just get right to the bottom line. Why is losing not an option?

PALIN: Losing is not — retreat is not an option. Retreat is defeat in Iraq. Al Qaeda, they're acknowledging even, along with General Petraeus, that Iraq is the central front on the War on Terror and the violent Islamic extremists who hate America would love that stronghold to be built in Iraq.

They forgot General Petraeus, once stated the extremists are in Afganistan and no longer in Iraq. General Petraeus says the surge worked, but too many American soldiers, in the field speak out against the surge. Now the solderiers are not aloud to speak out against the war, without charges being pressed against them. When your sons and daughters come home ask them for all they have seen. Not just heard from commanders.

3)HANNITY: What countries today pose the most danger, in your view, to America?

PALIN: Any country that is going to house violent Islamic terrorists. We have to keep our eye, of course, on Iran. We've got to keep our eye on some of the ongoing activities in Russia, also. North Korea under the leadership of Kim Jong Il — certainly there is a lot of concern there.

They both ignore the trouble already, in Americans streets with 'gangland terrorists'. Look at Alaska.

4)HANNITY: What do you view — and I know this came up in your interview with Charlie Gibson, as it relates to the Bush Doctrine — what do you view as the Bush Doctrine and what do you view as America's role in the world? What is our role as a country, as it relates to national security?

PALIN: That's a great question and being an optimist I see our role in the world as one of — being a force for good and one of being the leader of the world when it comes to the values that — it seems that just humankind embraces the values that encompass life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And that's not just in America, that is in our world.

And America is in a position, because we care for so many people, to be able to lead and to be able to have a strong diplomacy and a strong military. Also at the same time to defend not only our freedoms but, to help these rising, smaller democratic countries that are just — you know, they're putting themselves on the map right now, and they're going to be looking to America as that leader. We being used as a force for good is how I see our country.

Why didn't she give this statement to Mr. Gibson? Why did she have to wait, to be scripted?

5)HANNITY even askes about her version of 'troopergate' , she gives several versions. She invites an inspection into the contoversy, but now wants to postpone the investigation. What happenned to 'Transparency'. I guess it doesn't include her...

Posted by: historyforgotten | Sep 19, 2008 4:50:36 AM

People tend to forget JFK as a good President, and Carter had deal with Nixons I am not a crook scandel that started an economic downfall. Nixons Health Care hurt everybody, but the top 5%. Now Obama is ready to help the Majority of Americans.
War for Profit vote McCain.
Peace and stability for America vote Obama.

Posted by: historyforgotten | Sep 19, 2008 4:45:17 AM

Breaking News!

"People who startle easily in response to threatening images or loud sounds seem to have a biological predisposition to adopt conservative political positions on many hot-button issues, according to unusual new research published yesterday."

Now, that explains everything. They are just scared of everything and want to make everyone else scared too! Boo! hahaha

Posted by: George | Sep 19, 2008 2:29:14 AM

The last honest democrat was ... ???sorry, I can´t remember anyone

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | Sep 19, 2008 2:06:04 AM

"Republicans are cheats, LIARS and crooks!! " and bullies!! Their bottom line: vote republican or else, something bad gonna happen to you. Of course, they are gonna try and make sure something bad does happen to you. Oh wait, they just did that.

Posted by: George | Sep 19, 2008 2:03:47 AM

McCAIN CAMPAIGN ATTEMPTS TO COVER UP PALIN'S TROOPERGATE SCANDAL!!!

Didn't Palin learn the lessons of Watergate? The break-in to Democtatic Party headquarters by the NIXON Campaign to look at a few papers was really nothing...

It was the ensuing COVER-UP that killed Nixon! Since Palin is clearly a student and understudy of Nixon, she and McCain should both know that...

Everyone in America knows a cover-up when they see one now! The only thing that is "tainted" about that bi-partisan investigation is PALIN!!!

Something smells fishy (or Moosey) here...........

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!

Republicans are cheats, LIARS and crooks!! Always have been, always will be!! The last honest Republican was Abraham Lincoln...

Posted by: Davis | Sep 19, 2008 1:54:33 AM

- Hitler wanted to change Germany and ruined his country.

- Mussolini wanted to change Italy and ruined his country.

- Stalin wanted to change Russia and ruined his country.

- Fidel Castro wanted to change Cuba and ruined his country.

All these totalitarian demagogues use a flowery speech to draw people. Behind it there´s nothing or even worse than nothing.

Obama wants to change America and he will lead us to ruin and disaster. I hope God protects us!

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | Sep 19, 2008 1:50:02 AM

Actually, Leonard, Progressivism is related to the Progressive Party, founded in 1912 by Theodore Roosevelt, a Republican. The party platform described its mission as:

"To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day"

Of course, it would be no surprise that by 1930 this concept was associated then with Communism. Anything to keep the status quo and the money flowing to the coffers. Nothing has changed it seems, in a hundred years.

Posted by: George | Sep 19, 2008 1:41:29 AM

In the 30's 'Progressive' was a code word for 'Communist'. Like everything else in this country it has shifted to the extreme right, so now it just means 'Regulatory Responsibility'.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 19, 2008 1:29:05 AM

Huh? Democrats and Progressivism? Progressivism is a Republican idea, I think. What do you mean? I'm confused.

Posted by: Teresa | Sep 19, 2008 1:15:49 AM

You're very welcome, Teresa. I'm glad you and I see eye to eye on what a tragic failure Democratics have become and how horrible "progressivism" is for America and freedom.

Posted by: Concerned in OH | Sep 19, 2008 1:02:52 AM

No Dave, they just delete all posts with links, lmao

Posted by: Bluff | Sep 19, 2008 12:56:18 AM

Staniam, you are funny! I love astrology and Tarot cards. Are you a fortune teller? Love to meet you...

Posted by: Teresa | Sep 19, 2008 12:37:18 AM

Thank you, Concerned. I agree. The world would be a perfect Eden if not for the Democrats. Thank God for sending his Emissary, our current President, a proud Republican.

Posted by: Teresa | Sep 19, 2008 12:34:35 AM

teresa
next week something controversial will come out about Obama and you will be forced to defend that

Posted by: staniam | Sep 19, 2008 12:34:22 AM

Thankfully, an adult is in charge in LA now.

Posted by: Concerned in OH | Sep 19, 2008 12:22:27 AM
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Be careful. Hollywood types think LA may refer to Los Angeles, CA.

Posted by: Dave in lv | Sep 19, 2008 12:29:27 AM

Great link Teresa. Your link just highlights the complete and utter failure a top to bottom Democratic government is. NOLA and LA were infested with Democratics and their corruption for decades. Thankfully, an adult is in charge in LA now.

Posted by: Concerned in OH | Sep 19, 2008 12:22:27 AM

"The son of Democratic state representative Mike Kernell is reportedly a suspect in the hacking of the personal e-mail account of Alaska’s Gov. Sarah Palin, Republican vice presidential candidate"

Who cares? What is your point? If true, snot-nosed little brats can happen to any family. Look at Bush.

Posted by: Teresa | Sep 19, 2008 12:22:18 AM

What a bunch of baloney. McCain has spent his entire career fighting regulation and voting for deregulation. He is whining about the "Fat Cats" when he is one of the fattest cats around and can't even remember how many houses he owns. Did he say that from his family plane or from one of his six or seven houses? George Bush and his Republican friends started their adminstration with no budget deficit and have sold our country to the Chinese and run the deficit into the trillions. Now the Republicans are making the Federal Treasury into the biggest corporate welfare program on the planet - the only catch is that we don't have any money so we have to borrow more money from China to bail out a bunch of rich Republicans who didn't understand the word leverage and whose Daddys have always fixed everything for them - just like George Bush. Except that his daddy can't fix it this time and we are the ones who are going to have to pay. Wouldn't that trillion have been nice for education? Or for health care? Oh, I forgot. We can't afford that. So where exactly did this money come from? Oh, that's right. Straight from Beijing.

Posted by: mara | Sep 19, 2008 12:06:57 AM

"progressivehistorians"? LOL.

Right. The one thing you "progressives" are truly good at is re-writing history.

I can only shine the light. I can't make you see.

Posted by: Concerned in OH | Sep 18, 2008 11:52:17 PM

Jackie

I agree they have let Obama get away without explaining anything and its because he shares the same Ivy legue education as themsomethign snooty and elite about it and Im a democrat... I dont understand why this is happening

Posted by: staniam | Sep 18, 2008 11:47:06 PM

Obama things he kiked out the Clinton wing of the Democratic party but he just made them angry... did you see Hillarys senate speech on the financial crisis thats the kind of candidate that we needed for the presidency

Posted by: staniam | Sep 18, 2008 11:43:46 PM

Why isn't the media talking about the legislation that Mccain sponsored in 2005 that would have gotten Freddie and Fannie under control? And how does Obama explain why he is the number #2 guy(over a 10 year period) in campaign contributions from Freddie and Fannie?

Is ABC going to cover the election? Or are ya'll trying to promote Obama like NBC does?

Posted by: Jackie | Sep 18, 2008 11:43:14 PM

First came the broadened Community Reinvestment Act in 1995 under Clinton. Then came Sub-primes and ARMs.

Look up CRA on wiki. You'll notice alot of familiar terms. Clinton, ACORN, Barney Frank, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac. Look up Subprime lending on Wiki. You'll also see, you'd think rather strangely, alot of references to discrimination.

Posted by: Concerned in OH | Sep 18, 2008 11:39:54 PM

DHC
... we will not let you forget who is the mainstream of the democratic party on election day... Obama will lose!

Posted by: staniam | Sep 18, 2008 11:35:32 PM

McCain's going to be the keynoter at Bill Clinton's Global Initiative :)

Posted by: John | Sep 18, 2008 11:35:29 PM

Obama is really just kicking McCain's here... McCain has gotten in over his head the last 4 days with his gaffes and position changes, and Obama is not going to let up on him.

Bring on the debates.

Posted by: DHC | Sep 18, 2008 11:26:44 PM

So what is this about them finding the culprit who hacked Sarah Palin's email?

Posted by: Samantha | Sep 18, 2008 11:26:32 PM

willem
when will you obamasnots get the message that the bering straight thing is not funny...Obama was asked to be more substantive and hes become more silly

Posted by: staniam | Sep 18, 2008 11:24:17 PM

So, Concerned. Where is your proof that it was ‘liberal social engineering’ that created subprime mortgages and ARM's? So far, you have only managed to show us how mortgage lenders should apply the same criteria to every citizen AFTER these mortgages and secularization were devised by mortgage lenders and investors.

You are blaming Democrats for spreading the victims amongst majorities and minorties. You wanted the victims to be only amongst white americans only?

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | Sep 18, 2008 11:15:28 PM

"Some of these "outdated" criteria included the size of the mortgage payment relative to income, credit history, savings history and income verification. Instead, the Boston Fed ruled that participation in a credit-counseling program should be taken as evidence of an applicant's ability to manage debt."

Note. The mortgage manual stated that credit history and income verifications unfairly disqualified minority applicants.

So if relying on a person's credit history or verified income is racist, what exactly should the qualifications be to get a mortgage?

Posted by: Concerned in OH | Sep 18, 2008 11:04:08 PM

Be glad it wasn't Putin who hacked Palin's e-mail account.

That would have been funny. Palin yelling at Putin from her Alaskan Island in the Bering Street: "Yooohooooo, I can SEEEEE you".
Putin yelling back: "Yooooohooooo, I've read your EEEEEE-mail"

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | Sep 18, 2008 11:04:06 PM

"Concerned: You might want to learn what discrimination actually means: it means that people who are equal in qualifications are treated differently based on other criteria."

True to normal humans. False to liberals. Liberals only judge people on things like skin color, gender and lifestyle choices.

For example, if 10 people walk into a bank and apply for a mortgage and 5 are black and 5 are white. Liberal ideology states if 3 whites got mortgages and less than 3 blacks got mortgages, the bank must be racist.

Posted by: Concerned in OH | Sep 18, 2008 11:00:25 PM

"Obama has no plans to extend the Bush tax cuts beyond their expiration date"

Don't know what's unclear about that.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | Sep 18, 2008 10:59:11 PM

Obama's democrat's broke into Palin's E-mail account.

Palin Email Hacker is Son of Democrat Tennessee State Senator

Bristol Palin may be pregnant out of wedlock, but at least she's not going to jail.

David Kernell, a college student has been positively identified as the perp who hacked Sarah Palin's Yahoo account.

State Rep. Mike Kernell said today that he was aware of Internet rumors about his son being the subject of speculation that he accessed the personal e-mail of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

Asked whether he or his son, a student at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville, had been contacted by authorities investigating the break-in of Palin's account, he responded:

"Me, no."

As far as his 20-year-old son, David, he said: "I can't say. That doesn't mean he has or hasn't (been contacted by investigators."

Kernell, D-Memphis, cited the father-son relationship.

He said he had talked to his son today, but that he talks to his son regularly.

He declined further comment.