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Obama Says McCain Is Offering Fake Change: 'You Can Put Lipstick on a Pig, But It's Still a Pig'
September 09, 2008 6:10 PM
LEBANON, Va. -- "That's not change," Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said of what Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., is offering, laying out how McCain and President George W. Bush agree -- in Obama's view -- on economic policy, foreign policy, health care policy, etc., etc.
"You know, you can put lipstick on a pig," Obama said, "but it's still a pig."
The crowd rose and applauded, some of them later telling reporters* that they thought Obama had been alluding to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's ad lib during her vice presidential nomination acceptance speech last week, "What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick."
"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called 'change,'" Obama continued, "it's still gonna stink after eight years.
"We’ve had enough of the same old thing! It’s time to bring about real change to Washington. And that’s the choice you’ve got in this election."
Obama added that "it is not going to be easy ... John McCain has a compelling biography, you know Sarah Palin is an interesting story."
The crowd booed.
"No, she’s new!" Obama said. "She hasn’t been on the scene, you know, she’s got five kids and my hat goes off to anybody who’s looking after five. I’ve got two and they tire Michelle and me out!"
-- Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller
UPDATE: Obama senior adviser Robert Gibbs insists the senator was not referring to Palin or Palin's comments. "That's an old expression," Gibbs says.
* Note: this post has been updated. I originally wrote that the crowd "no doubt" made the connection, and then, after a bunch of us who were there in the gym talked to members of the audience, I changed this entry to reflect that they told us that they made the connection. Which is NOT the same thing, significantly, as them telling us that they thought Obama was calling Palin a pig -- an interpretation NONE of us heard from members of the the audience, despite the false claim pushed by the McCain campaign.
September 9, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (936)
Mentioned a few days ago that Missouri Senator Claire McCaskill's mild affect masks a bit of a killer, and that she's perhaps the Obama campaign's deftest surrogate on the attack.
But I was still kind of amused by her brief interaction with Mitt Romney in the press file just now.
McCaskill was stepping out of her chair at the end of an MSNBC interview, and Romney was up next. She and a staffer unplugged her various wires, and she handed Romney the earpiece the guests use to hear the host.
"I spit on this before I put it in," she said to Romney, with a sweet smile.
Posted by: Debbie | Oct 8, 2008 1:49:13 PM
Do Not Insult Us Sarah - you don't know what you're talking about. Republicans would love to see a black man in office, but not your man. I couldn't have said this better.
“Senator Obama’s words often sound very reasonable and moderate, as well as lofty and inspiring. But everything that he has actually done over the years places him unmistakably with the extreme left elitists.
Sadly, many of those who are enchanted by his rhetoric are unlikely to check out the facts. But nothing is a more real or more important issue than whether what a candidate says is the direct opposite of what he has actually been doing for years.
The old phrase, “a man of high ideals but no principles,” is one that applies all too painfully to Barack Obama today. His words expressing lofty ideals may appeal to the gullible but his long history of having no principles makes him a danger of the first magnitude in the White House.”
another article:
"The public was treated to a different verse of the same song when Obama’s unbelievably corrupt friend Tony Rezko was convicted on 16 counts of mail fraud, wire fraud, soliciting bribes, and money laundering. Rezko’s primary business since 1990 was the buying and selling of political influence. It’s how he came to be first in line for government grants to convert run-down buildings into low-income housing, which he then let deteriorate into slums.
Obama entered into his own land deal with Rezko in the summer of 2005. Rezko bought the property adjacent to the Obama’s dream home and sold him a strip of land on which to build a fence. Obama paid a fair price, but by this point the Chicago papers had run more than 100 stories about the federal investigation into Rezko’s influence-peddling. Obama called his decision to deal with Rezko a “bone-headed move,” but claimed he didn’t know about the corrupt behavior. If so, he was the last person in Chicago.
Now Obama wants us to believe that he didn’t know about Bill Ayers’s terrorist past when he was working with Ayers in the 1990s. As a leader of the radical Weather Underground, Ayers participated in multiple bombings that he says he does not regret. He spent 11 years as a fugitive from justice. Obama and Ayers first met in 1995. In an interview for a book published that year, Ayers described his political views: “I am a radical, Leftist, small ‘c’ communist.”
And regarding Sarah Palin. She has not complained about anything despite the cruel and ignornant stuff that is said about her by the liberal media or idiots like you. She has been so professional and gracious about everything unlike your man who is the biggest cry baby in this election. He sure can dish it, but can't seem to take it.
Why don't you look at the facts about Obama before speaking anymore. Obviously you have no clue what he is proposing or saying or you wouldn't be voting for him if you really knew.
Posted by: Debbie | Oct 8, 2008 1:42:37 PM
Good stuff written by Thomas Sowell
Senator McCain’s health care plan is built around giving households more control over health care coverage decisions. He would convert today’s income-tax preference for employer-paid insurance into a refundable tax credit that workers and their families could direct to the insurance plan of their choice.
Obama and Biden are trying to scare voters by suggesting, first of all, that McCain’s reform would leave some households worse off than they are today. In fact, most Americans would come out well ahead under the McCain plan, as independent estimates — and common sense — indicate. A middle-class household in the 25-percent tax bracket — that’s married couples with incomes between $65,100 and $131,450 in 2008 — would have to get more than $20,000 a year in employer-paid premiums to be better off today than under the McCain plan. (The average employer contribution to family coverage was $9,325 in 2008, according to this annual survey.) A distributional analysis of the McCain plan by the Tax Policy Center shows all income groups, including the poorest fifth, better off with the McCain tax credit than under current law in 2009.
Senators Obama and Biden have also tried to claim that millions of Americans would be pushed out of employer-based plans under the McCain reform. But this claim is also false. McCain’s proposal would give workers the option to take their credit and apply it to insurance outside of their workplace. In some cases, this would be a rational decision, as it would give a worker portable insurance they could keep even as their employment and life circumstances change.
But there is no reason to believe large numbers of employers would suddenly drop coverage altogether. Job-based insurance would still be very desirable for most workers, as the premiums paid by firms would remain exempt from payroll taxes. For this reason, employers looking to attract and retain the best workers offer attractive health-insurance plans.
As Senator Obama has criticized the McCain plan in recent weeks, one has to wonder whether he even understands his own plan. Indeed, it is Obama’s plan, not McCain’s, that represents the real threat to employer-sponsored insurance.
Posted by: Debbie | Oct 8, 2008 1:32:04 PM
Part of an article from the debate last night:
“The sky-high gasoline prices Americans paid all summer were effectively an energy tax, brought to us by policies limiting energy production supported chiefly by Democrats like Nancy Pelosi.
Barrack Obama, too, talked up the foreign-policy considerations of dependence on foreign oil. Yet he also made sure to empathize with families for whom $3.80 gas strains the budget. The irony that Senator Obama’s party shoulders much of the responsibility for those high prices.
McCain squandered an opportunity to clarify his differences from Obama on nuclear power. The facts are these: Both candidates claim to support nuclear power, but McCain actually seems to mean it. He supports opening the Yucca Mountain waste repository, a critical step in guaranteeing the expansion of nuclear energy. Meanwhile, Obama vows to shut down Yucca, though provides no alternatives. He’s trying to have it both ways. He can say he supports nuclear, as do increasing numbers of Americans. But he sends an unmistakable signal to the anti-nuclear environmental lobby that, without Yucca Mountain, nuclear power isn’t going to expand on his watch.”
Obama showed why at this late date he is the favorite to win come Election Day. Without any hesitation, Obama stated that we have to prioritize and that energy tops the list. (The fact that Obama said in the first debate that energy would be the first item on his agenda he’d abandon will no doubt be tossed down the memory hole by his cheerleaders in the mainstream media.)
Posted by: Debbie | Oct 8, 2008 1:30:18 PM
Thomas Sowell wrote this article today:
“Senator Obama’s words often sound very reasonable and moderate, as well as lofty and inspiring. But everything that he has actually done over the years places him unmistakably with the extreme left elitists.
Sadly, many of those who are enchanted by his rhetoric are unlikely to check out the facts. But nothing is a more real or more important issue than whether what a candidate says is the direct opposite of what he has actually been doing for years.
The old phrase, “a man of high ideals but no principles,” is one that applies all too painfully to Barack Obama today. His words expressing lofty ideals may appeal to the gullible but his long history of having no principles makes him a danger of the first magnitude in the White House.”
Posted by: Debbie | Oct 8, 2008 1:29:11 PM
What in the world are you people doing, Obama keeps saying he is for change, but have you ever heard what that change may be. Check his voting record, he voted "present" on the economic bill. He has no clue what he is doing and the person that stated the Republicans have ran our country, you are very wrong! The democrats want Obama in so that they can change this U.S. to a socialist country. Do you want to be told what to do and how to do it? That is the Democrats theory. Both CEO's from Freddie Mac & Fanny Mae that got us into this economic trouble are on Obama's election committee! What does that tell you about Obama! Wake Up.
Posted by: sorenhawk | Oct 1, 2008 11:30:03 AM
Her speech wasn't that great. It was snide and snippy. And yes, I do know how tough it is to give speeches- I was a debater back in school.
Biden clearly owns her when it comes to foreign policy- just watch the interview with Gibson. It's simply terrifying to me the way she seems to be short on facts and has an overly simplistic understanding of foreign policy.
EVERYONE knows the Georgia started conflict in South Ossetia, and she said that she it was an unprovoked attack by Russia. Gibson even tried to hint to her, saying, "You believe it's unprovoked?" once more, and she repeated an affirmative. She didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was. And the way she kept on saying "Charlie" was pretty annoying, and she seemed overly defensive at times.
Like when Gibson asked her if she had met a head-of-state, instead of being honest and saying, "Well no, but I've had experience negotiating with people in my capacity as governor, I believe I can adapt to that role too", she goes on about how most other vp candidates in history likely hadn't either.
I am a woman, for the record, and I was not offended by Obama's comment, but I WAS offended by the McCain campaign's overzealous attempt to blow this matter out of proportion and play victim. Sure even if they thought it might have been sexist, there is NO NEED to play this up to the extent that it's eclipsing far more important issues if they truly believed in "Country First!". Enough of the Swift Boating crap already.
Stop screaming sexism at every turn. Why should people not be allowed to use certain words just because she's a woman, is it? Isn't THAT sexist, now? I mean COME ON. The word lipstick by itself is NOT a word like say "political lynching" that carries sensitive connotations.
If she is going to whine and cry over an insult after she had taken some not so nice potshots at Obama, I don't think she can deal with Ahmadinejad, Putin or Chavez who certainly may have some sharp barbs, this time, clearly directed at her without question.
Posted by: Do Not Insult Us Sarah | Sep 12, 2008 12:17:24 PM
About the pig comment, stop being so sensitive, i think he would have said it to ANYONE, i repeat, ANYONE who stands on the same grounds as McCain/Palin does...Obama was clearly refferring to how Republicans have ran the office the last 8 years and has done a horrible job so we do need change.
Let's get back to politics and off of a stupid saying because we're trying to see who'd better suit America.
You can't call something bs if you've never even given it a chance, you're just damning it to hell automatically. As sad as it is, I believe race does have alot to do with what is going on here, not too mention McCain used the qute to and noone's climbing down his throat about it...
Alot of you republicans are, simply, going republican because you don't want to see a black man in office/in charge. We've seen what Bush did, he's pretty bad. McCain's campain includes many of the same people that helped Bush get in office, which means they have similar ideas, which equals horrible.
So in that case, i believe we will be entitled to the same bs we had the previous 8years.
On the flipside, we have a man who promises change, has no affiliations with what Bush has done, and has a clear head on what should be done.
McCain's sugar-coating the same garbage we heard for 8-years now and that's not the type of "change" I'm interested in seeing.
Posted by: Dom | Sep 12, 2008 10:12:49 AM
Does anyone really believe that Barack Obama would have made the lipstick on a pig comment to a black woman if John McCain had chosen one as his running mate?
Posted by: independent1 | Sep 11, 2008 11:45:52 PM
Am I the only person that noticed that the fish comment was directed to Palin because her nickname is Sarah Barracuda? Seems like Obama is rattled and is now resorting to petty name calling. He could have used many other phrases that didn’t have certain key words that refer to Palin.
Posted by: scott | Sep 11, 2008 11:36:01 PM
--Dom: "Anyone who can read can deliver a speech... She just spoke it off a teleprompter."
How many speeches have you given? Obviously, you don't realize how difficult it is to deliver an effective speech. Anyone who can read CANNOT deliver a GREAT speech. If you want a crappy speech, then yes, anybody can do that.
As for speaking from a teleprompter. Where have you been? Hiding in your little cave? The teleprompter totally got off queue throughout most of the speech. It wasn't stopped for applause. She gave part of the speech off her memory/on the fly.
As for Obama's reference to a pig, yes it's an old saying. However, given the HUGE media hype of Palin, hockey moms, and lipstick, it was clearly a reference to her and NOT McCain.
--Bob: "She was absolutely nasty in her acceptance speech."
She was rightfully standing up for herself after a full week of relentless attack from the media and Democrats. What the hell would you do? Sit back and let people smear you? Yeah, right.
--All
Have you guys neglected the fact that Obama followed the Democratic position 97% of the time versus McCain with 90%? What kind of change is Obama going to bring. NONE! And this whole idea of universal health care by the government is a load of BS. It's going to put the whole system in more of a mess than it already is.
Posted by: Fernando | Sep 11, 2008 6:26:13 PM
I'm new to much interest in politics. Just one question, a lot of people seem to think Sarah Palin isn't qualified enough to be V.P. How is Obama more qualified to be President?
Posted by: Elizabeth | Sep 11, 2008 6:20:55 PM
thats a question noone wants to answer because they want to keep McCain's covered.
What a bunch of dorks ugh
Posted by: Dom | Sep 11, 2008 4:14:06 PM
hey ...can anyone really answer this question please, and I'm talking to republicans using this cheap line to get into the white house once again...Why is it okay if McCain says it when addressing Hilary, and not okay when Obama uses it? Oh, by the way, he cleary las calling McCain the pig and Sarah the lipstick, and also, McCain the old fish, and sarah the 2008 paper, keep in account she did just come into the picture out of nowhere.
Women stop being so numb-minded, McCain did the same thing, the only difference is, the White House truly knows and believes Obama can be our President, so they'll take any cheap shot they can take.
But back to my original question, what's the difference between Obama using it and McCain using it?
Barack the Vote '08!!
Posted by: Dom | Sep 11, 2008 4:10:32 PM
As a follow up to Sharon's comments which were right on, I also am sick of hearing what a great speech Palin gave. Anyone who can read can deliver a speech. However, she did not write it, a Bush writer did. Stop calling it her speech. She just spoke it off a teleprompter.
Posted by: Joan | Sep 11, 2008 12:38:45 PM
John McCain's daughter Meghan is not taking offense to Barack Obama's "lipstick on a pig" line like the rest of her father's campaign, pointing out Wednesday morning that GOP presidential nominee has been known to use the phrase.
"I've heard my dad say that, the term 'lipstick on a pig,'" McCain said during an appearance on Fox promoting her new children's book about her father.
Posted by: Autumn123 | Sep 11, 2008 7:28:49 AM
Obama is too clever not trying to water down the popularity of 'Lipstick' which BY NOW pertains to Palin. Of course he will deny it. Of couse he tried to be funny although he sounded more of jackass that a comedian...ever checked those clips some Democrats were not laughing nor smiling at all. Haha no wonder Biden is biding his time smiling towards the 2012 primaries. Palin might not be qualified but look who is talking...Hillary for 2012!!! Kenyans get your son!
Posted by: Bob | Sep 11, 2008 2:19:24 AM
I totally agree with Sharon. If she can dish it then she should be able to eat it. She was absolutely nasty in her acceptance speech--a new comer who wanted to claim her spot--she did and now it's blowing up in her face. There's much more where that came from Sarah so toughen up.
Posted by: HyprocriteRepub | Sep 11, 2008 12:25:09 AM
Check out NPR's clips of McCain using the same expression. Frickin' hypocrites.
Posted by: Troy | Sep 10, 2008 9:35:20 PM
The McCain campaign is their own worst enemy. If they were just waiting for the Democratic campaign to take a swipe at Palin based on gender, I'm sure they could have waited for something better. The Republican campaign has repeatedly said that all Obama can do is speak well, and he won't be able to deliver. Do they really think that the American people are stupid? By using the "Lipstick comment" as their attempt to turn people against Obama, their basic agument would be this: "Barack Obama is a well educated, calculating, and excellant speaker, but that's all he is, he can't deliver once in the White House" With that said, the Republican Campaign would like us to believe that the man whom they have dubbed has only one thing going for him, and that is his ability to speak well on all occasions, blatently called Palin a "pig" I have copied the transcript here, inserting Palin's name.
"John McCain says he's about change too, and so I guess his whole angle is, 'Watch out George Bush -- except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics -- we're really going to shake things up in Washington. That's not change. That's just calling something the same thing something different. You know you can put lipstick on Sarah Palin, but she's still a pig. You know you can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, it's still going to stink after eight years. We've had enough of the same old thing."
If you read it, with her name in it, it makes no sense. We are supposed to believe that Obama, the excellant speaker, was making a coherant argument, threw in a random sentence about Sarah Palin, and then went back to the original arument? The McCain camp really needs to focus on the issues and stop crying wolf.
Posted by: Josie | Sep 10, 2008 8:51:43 PM
The lipstck comment by Obama was an intentional remark. All you had to do was watch his body language, the hesitation in his comments and the audience reaction to know it was intentionally said about Palin. It was like he was saying "do you hear me now".
It is sad that it has come to this!!
Posted by: MEW | Sep 10, 2008 8:48:53 PM
Can't you people who are seemingly offended by Obama's 'lipstick on a pig' comment just do a little fact checking? Watch the video of him. He's directly referring to McCain, he never even mentions Palin. Y'all are pathetic in your lack of due dilligence.
I would think more people should be offended by Palin disparaging Community Organizers than this false controversy. Do y'all mean to tell me that a mayor does more than your local Boys and Girls Clubs, or Women's or Men's Clubs, or your Clergy, or your PTA? They're ALL Community Organizers!!
I personally took great offense to her remarks.
Posted by: JPDem | Sep 10, 2008 8:31:34 PM
Independent wrote:
>Liberal Brits have tried to influence >our election in the past and failed >miserably.
Can you please provide an example of that? Which liberal Brit? When?
>And Obama . . . taking the low road >when he gets behind. Plagiarizing from >the Washington Post,
What did he plagiarize from the Post? When?
>hanging out with Weather Underground >terrorists (pardoned by Clinton),
How about the Palins hanging out with secessionists? People who put Alaska - not America - first. Good choice, McCain.
>and nut job preachers.
Her church had a speaker from Jews for Jesus, who spouted anti-Israel rhetoric.
>We are judged by the company we keep.
Yes, we are, so McCain/Palin supporters have no cause to throw stones. Their company includes campaign manager Rick Davis (a former lobbyist for Freddie and Fanny)and numerous Bush aides, some of whom are tutoring Palin on foreign policy now.
And they have the nerve to call themselves the change candidates.
Posted by: Charlotte | Sep 10, 2008 8:27:04 PM
The only people pretending to buy this garbage are the former Clinton supporters who are so racist that they are now going to vote republican. We are not fooled by your sudden change in political affiliation or this desperate fake outrage. The outrage and disgrace is that Republican women like former Republican governor of Massachusetts, Jane Swift, are letting themselves be used in this manner to try to sway even more women into joining the Republican party. The Republican honchos obviously believe that the women of this country are so stupid and vindictive that we will swallow any nonsense they put out. We are not ! Keep trying things like this though, it only shows you for who and what you really are.
Posted by: Elizabeth | Sep 10, 2008 7:55:17 PM
Hmmm...one sentence in my last post seems to have gotten garbled. What I said was that I hope Charlie Gibson asks her the important questions because it'll probably be the only interview she does.
Apologies for any confusion. : )
Posted by: Sharon | Sep 10, 2008 7:32:12 PM
This is much ado about nothing. Palin's condescending, mean-spirited, snarky acceptance speech showed that she can clearly dish it out, so shouldn't she be able to take it? Quit whining - he wasn't talking about you anyway.
Folks have also mentioned the reaction of the Obama crowd. Can't that reaction be likened to the reaction of the Republican delegates during her speech? Didn't they laugh and hoot at her demeaning zingers? Isn't it the same thing?
The man - Talk about Obama not leading. McCain appears to have given up being the top of the ticket to Ms. Palin.
Jayhawk - seems to me that Palin is simply Obama in a skirt. The second coming. As another poster said, people heard one speech (which she has repeated ad nauseum) and they think she's THE ONE. People are willing to put her a heartbeat away from the presidency when FEW PEOPLE KNEW HER less than two weeks ago. And we don't have time to get to know her and what she believes. That scares me. And all of this adoration AFTER ONE SPEECH. Isn't that what Obama detractors accuse his supporters of having done?
Normally the VP pick isn't that important, but at McCain's age it is of utmost importance.
TV, your comments were spot on. I mean, is it just me or are there just too many weird parallels between Palin and Obama? Everything his detractors say about Obama can also be thrown right back at her, down to the supposed radical associations - in her case, her husband's membership in the AIP. She also *did* sit in church and listen to an anti-semitic speech. Why didn't she get up and leave? What about her children being subjected to that?
In all, I think John McCain was incredibly irresponsible to put someone on the ticket that we have no chance to get to know before election day. She may have more chops than I realize, but I want to know this BEFORE I vote.
Itant questions because it'll pr hope Charlie Gibson asks her imporobably be the only interview she does. The way the McCain campaign is keeping her on such a tight leash is disrespectful and demeaning to the American voter. We have a right to know who this woman is and what she believes before we vote.
Posted by: Sharon | Sep 10, 2008 7:28:14 PM
After the "debate" debacle, and this crap, consider me and ex-ABC news viewer. I hope others reading this post will follow suit.
Posted by: peter j. | Sep 10, 2008 7:27:46 PM
"This" is a story?!
Posted by: D | Sep 10, 2008 7:15:22 PM
P.S. It's insulting to both Sarah Palin and to Hillary Clinton. (See my comment below):
Posted by: Disappointed feminist | Sep 10, 2008 7:10:41 PM
Do you Hillary supporters really think voting for a party with a woman on the ticket is the same as voting for Hillary? Palin and Clinton have OPPOSITE opinions on the issues. As a woman, I'm ashamed that Hillary supporters are willing to back any candidate that is female. I thought the women's movement was about ideas, not body parts.
Posted by: Disappointed feminist | Sep 10, 2008 7:09:19 PM
I really hope that, Republican or Democrat, we get a group of people in the White House who are not as hateful and vindictive as this crowd. I believe you are so eager to find what you want to find that you see what is not there. 1. Lipstick on a Pig is an expression politicians use all the time to describe legislation or ideas that they think are no good, but which have been made to look attractive to the average person. If you listen to Obama's WHOLE statement, you will see that he is talking about McCain's platform, not his running mate. In fact, McCain used the expression about H.Clinton's healthcare stance. 2. Obama is not a "secret Muslim." If you listen to the WHOLE statement, it's clear what his meaning was, even though he did not word it well. He is talking about how Sen. McCain has not suggested that he is a Muslim. He said, "John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith." I hope that, despite our different opinions about the issues, all of us Americans can learn to seek the truth and reason together rationally to solve our problems. Or is there no hope? It's up to us, people.
Posted by: Christine | Sep 10, 2008 7:04:59 PM
Why do you republicans just let this man, Obama dig his own hole. The more you let him go the deeper his hole will be. His ego is so big now, he thinks he is the saviour of the world. Sarah Pallin can eat his lunch. She is tough enough to best him. The more you continue to whine about what the liberals are doing, the happier it makes them.
Posted by: Jim H | Sep 10, 2008 6:43:50 PM
Thanks for the news, Jake!
Posted by: Conley | Sep 10, 2008 6:35:28 PM
I am tired of reading the vile filth coming from the libs on this blog. What can I expect they follow their man Obama's example. If he is elected you will all get what you deserve.
Posted by: Matthew | Sep 10, 2008 6:32:44 PM
Obama claims he wants change? Well then he should have chosen the most voted for and qualified candidate, Hillary Clinton. It makes me sick and angry every day to know that she should be where he is right now. So she can campaign for him til the cows come home but there are many such as myself who will not support someone who has such a blatent lack of regard for her. That's not enough for me. I'm voting McCain/Palin.
Posted by: Kelli | Sep 10, 2008 6:24:59 PM
What i see and hear is white women flocking to a candidate who has given one sarcastic and divisive speech that we really don't know anything about.she is good for our country because she is a white women? A governor? George Bush was a governor? Would you rehire him? Arnold Schwarzenegger is a governor and Jesse the Body Ventura was. Should either of those men run this or be close to running this country.More than likely Mrs. Palin is a hard right wing conservative that has evoked interest from the masses because of her gender.Period.If I was a republican I would be ashamed.It seems John McCain in a very clever and guile manuver has shown that he would rather win an election than properly serve his country.Sarah is the celebrity that John is always calling Barack.We do not know her and in two months I doubt that is enough time to scratch the surface.At this moment in time I am ashamed and appauled at the utter stupidity of some of these women voters.If this election is thrown away because of republican manipulation we have fallen for before.... Hopefully America will wake up! Hopefully America is ready for real change and not this same ole pig with new lipstick, rotten egg painted bright,old car new paint job.America thrived in its last democratic administration.We need a democrat, not a rich old man that has so many homes he can't count and his beauty queen running mate with her ugly glasses, shrill voice,self righteous attitude and narrow minded ideals.
Obama 08
Posted by: TV | Sep 10, 2008 6:20:22 PM
I'm sure under a Palin Presidency after McCain's, "SHE" will be a true leader of the world as Maggie Thatcher was! I love how the right folks come along when the world needs them most. Got to love the fight and don't take it all so seriously--we fight in America but only feelings get hurt and nobody dies. USA USA USA!
Posted by: Aloha Guy | Sep 10, 2008 6:04:44 PM
Obama worked for the nomination. LOL! Are you kidding me the media practically handed it to him. If he was vetted properly 19 months ago we would have Hillary Clinton as the Democrat nominee. She thrashed him badly towards the end but it was too little to late. She was too far behind by the time he was finally vetted a little bit. And as for Palin McCain picked her because of her reform credentials, EXECUTIVE experience, and her ability to get things done. It helped that she was a young woman who is "MIDDLE CLASS" who could effectively communicate. McCain and Palin have proven they are ready to lead and they will earn America's trust. Unlike Obama who thinks he is already president and believes he is owed it. No you have to EARN it Obama hasn't. Sorry not this year.
Posted by: Matthew | Sep 10, 2008 5:45:10 PM
Matthew by you standards. Obama is the conservative who WORKED for the nomination and the change mantle and Sarah Palin is a Token Liberal, who collects our tax dollars to re- distribute wealth.
Posted by: Queen of Pork | Sep 10, 2008 5:18:56 PM
She kept our money.
Posted by: Queen of Pork | Sep 10, 2008 5:13:27 PM
Palin's a pig and a pea brain...how's that? Is that better? : )
Posted by: new york, new york | Sep 10, 2008 5:04:34 PM
At least McCain and Palin are smart enough to not say Obama's plans are like "The kettle calling the pot Black".
Posted by: Black Kettles | Sep 10, 2008 5:01:57 PM
If Barack Hussein Obama wins he will bring back the so-called Fairness Doctrine. Which will eliminate ALL Conservative voices from tv, talk radio, newspaper, magazine, and the net. Books will be ripped from the shelves. Any voice of criticism will be silenced. It will be the Liberal Propaganda machine full throttle no competition again. We will hear what they want us to hear.
Most of what is known about Obama was a result of conservative blogs and talk radio.
So much for Free Speach and Free Press.
What right will they attack next.
For the future of Freedom in America
Vote for McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: Matthew | Sep 10, 2008 4:47:48 PM
Here is the real story:
- Obama spent the last 19 months trying to be the comeback kid under Hillary's thumb. He played every card (race, gender, etc...)and got a free pass for anything he said because he was "behind". The media loves an underdog and ate up everything he said.
- So, he beat Hillary and came out of the DNC convention ahead.
- Then in comes Palin, the new comeback kid and the media is eating her up. Obama has been cast aside because he's yesterday's news. McCain could careless how much press Palin gets because at the end of the day, he's smart enough to realize he still gets the big office.
- When Palin made her speech at the RNC convention, she owned the "lipstick" remark. Especially after we found out it was off the cuff. Anyone with political savy would understand that it was then off limits. Trying to use it against McCain/Palin is just a trap...and he fell right into it. If Hillary had used the words "pigs" or "lipstick" when discussing heathcare, McCain should get slapped. She didn't and he rightly used the colloqialism without adverse effect. Where was the outrage when he used it back then. There was none. So, find a new tactic.
Bottom line: He does not know what to do or how to act with his lead. The media can't help him because they only know how to support an underdog and tear down a leader. The liberal media has been rendered impotent. I mean: what are you going to to when you bash "the man" and you wake up the next morning and you are now "the man".
The Republicans never expect Obama to actually apologize, but they sure got his button....and they are pushing it!
If he keeps thinking he's still got a free pass, the Republicans will OWN him! He will be his own undoing. He has to be able to stand on his own two feet.
If you don't know how to lead, get out of the way.
Posted by: The man | Sep 10, 2008 4:40:05 PM
Here is Obama's plans
Healthcare: Universal Nationalized Healthcare. Another Bureucrat.
McCain-A private healthcare plan you can take with from job to job. No Bureucrat.
Education: Even more Nationalized from Pre-K to College.
McCain-School choice a system that will help those who can't afford it go to a better school and get a better education.
Energy: Government subsidies for alternatives more taxes on all sources. More regulations.
McCain-Tap all possible resources in America. Drilling Offshore and elsewhere. Natural Gas, Clean Coal, Nuclear, Wind, Hydrogen, Electric, etc. No more sending 700 billion to countries ruled by dictators.
Taxes: He will raise taxes on everyone making more than 42,000 by letting the Bush cuts expire. Then he raise them on those who make more than 200,000. He will raise payroll tax, double Capital gains tax.
McCain-Will make Bush cuts permanant and cut them even more, double the child tax credit. He will others at present level.
Spending: He will introduce $850 billion dollars in new spending, and his cuts will be defense, intelligence, and national security.
McCain-He will put an end to pork barrel spending.
Jobs: Will have a government sponsored jobs program.
McCain-Tax and Energy plan will create growth and jobs. Will put those out of work back to school to train for a new job.
To sum up Obama is a TAX and SPEND, Big Government Socialist. NO THANKS!
We Need John McCain and Sara Palin. They truly understand Americans. They will shake up Washington.
McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: Matthew | Sep 10, 2008 4:35:47 PM
While there was no direct mention of Palin, the audience roared and jumped to its feet in a similar fashion. If Barack Obama wasn't thinking about the joke Sarah Palin told about lipstick and hockey moms at the Republican National Convention last week, the crowd certainly was...laughing and clapping before he even finished the attack.
Perhaps this explains the 20-point net swing in McCain's favor in the so-called pant suit vote.
Posted by: StopTheAttacks | Sep 10, 2008 4:35:47 PM
If it squeals like a pig.....
Posted by: Queen of Pork | Sep 10, 2008 4:12:27 PM
Really? How do you even see that? I mean wow, the liptick/pig comment, yeah I can see how that could be taken the wrong way but you're taking another old phrase and inventing some perverted meaning to it. I bet you're the type of person that can read Nostradamus and be amazed at the accuracy of his predictions.
On the other hand however, I kind of wish the pig/lipstick comment would have been intentional. I mean what's a pig but a wasteful disgusting creature and when you look at Palin's earmark requests and other policies that she was involved in you reallly don't see anything but disgusting waste.
Posted by: Fisher | Sep 10, 2008 4:05:00 PM
I'll just be glad when it's all over. Been listening to all this crap for 6 months. Can we add a box to check for who cares.
Posted by: stoplooking12 | Sep 10, 2008 3:53:18 PM
Obama keeps talking about Palin like he is running against her for President!! It's so funny to hear him talk out of his ass. He sounds quite immature with these comments and the rest of the country is finally seeing who he is. He should be talking about issues not these juvenile comments!!! I cant stand listening to him speak without a speech and teleprompter!! He takes too long to answer questions, pauses way too much!! SPIT IT OUT!!!!!!!
Just let the debates get here!!!! McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: heather | Sep 10, 2008 3:36:22 PM
Anyone one who says that they believe that Obama was calling Palin a pig is either a liar (because they want to hurt Obama politically) or an idiot (because they lack the basic comprehensive ability to understand the context of the "lipstick on a pig" phrase).
Shame on you, Jake Tapper, for not printing the full quote.
Shame on you, Jake Tapper, for claiming that you know that the crowd was thinking that Obama was alluding to Palin.
You aren't a mind reader. Did you ask anyone in the crowd what they actually thought?
Or did you just make it up despite your supposed journalistic integrity?
Or are you hoping to promote a lie by deceptively claiming your own perversion of Obama's words were the thoughts of the crowd?
I can't think of any reason why you and the Right would want to lie about what Obama said except to hurt Obama politically.
Nevermind that the concept is beyond ridiculous. Nevermind that Obama would have to be a complete idiot not to realize that it would be political suicide to call Palin a pig. Nevermind that the phrase is commonly used by politicians to refer to policies they oppose.
You conveniently overlook all that to promote this lie.
Posted by: Bryan Arnold | Sep 10, 2008 3:27:16 PM
More NObama Lies..
Obama said on ABC’s This Week Sunday (September 7, 2008) “I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school.”
However, upon further research revealed that Obama graduated in 1979 and “the registration requirement was suspended in April 1975. It was resumed again in 1980 by President Carter in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.” (Info from the official government selective service website below) Thus, Obama’s statement that he ‘had to sign up’ is not true.
Is there no end to this guy lying to us, the American People?
Posted by: electhiway | Sep 10, 2008 3:25:56 PM
Let's see... Obama calls Pallin a pig with lipstick and McCain a old fish and somehow that is the Republicans fault. You people are the lunatics. The audience got the reference immediately and Obama followed it up with comments about Pallin being new (even though she has been an elected official longer than he has). Obama should take responsibility for what he said and apologize but I doubt he has the class to do that. If you think it was fine what he said do you think it would be ok if McCain said you can take the turban off and put on a suit but it doesn't make him Presidential?
Posted by: Rich Doode | Sep 10, 2008 3:14:31 PM
Now I know how utterly stupid and ignorant many of us Americans are. This country really needs to do something about educating ourselves. We certainly need to make higher education more affordable and more accessible to our people as Obama proposes, because the tirade on this board is truly reflective of a group of ignoramuses, incapable of reading, or listening, in context.
Obama obviously wasn't referring to Sarah Palin. His context was John McCain. Are Republicans so desperate for an Obama gaffe that they have now begun to see/hear a gaffe in everything he says? How desperate can they be?
You Republican supporters ignore all the lies and dishonesty now evident in Sarah Palin and John McCain. This is the community of Christians who are suppose to be truthful and honest, yet they ignore the huge and obvious lies and deceptions and strain to find fault in the use of a very old saying, which both John McCain and Hillary Clinton employed in their speeches this election cycle. To quote Jesus: they "strain at a gnat and swallow a camel."
This crop of Republicans [not all] are the most dishonest and hypocritical group of people I have ever come across. Why don't you guys try a little honesty for a change. Yea, try it! Then you will see a change you can believe in.
Posted by: observer | Sep 10, 2008 2:56:30 PM
How stupid the news is to let McCain get away with this. Not only has Obama used this phrase BEFORE Palin got on the ticket, he used it CURRENTLY IN THIS CONTEXT (hint to the stupid: it has nothing to do with Palin).
OBAMA: "Let's just list this for a second. John McCain says he's about change, too. Except -- and so I guess his whole angle is, "Watch out, George Bush, except for economic policy, health-care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy, and Karl Rove-style politics. We're really gonna shake things up in Washington." That's not change. That's just calling some -- the same thing, something different. But you know, you can -- you know, you can put lipstick on a pig; it's still a pig."
Posted by: Janet | Sep 10, 2008 2:39:07 PM
It was a stupid set of comments by Obama. He will have to spend the next several days explaining himself instead of explaining why he is better than Bush. I believe that it was deliberate, which further illustrates his poor campaigning, a sin of commission. Can't his political handlers get through to him that he has to rise above all the squabbling and let his surrogates chuck the slime... What a maroon...
Posted by: jkstewart2 | Sep 10, 2008 2:31:22 PM
I once had respect for McCain and thought he could be a decent President, but all he does now is lie, lie, lie about everything. His ad on TV actually claims that McCain reformed Washington! It's as if he doesn't think he has anything to offer so this is all there is--just lie blatantly.
McCain has no honor left at all. He's become a disgrace. He's a symbol of everything that is wrong in Washington now.
Posted by: Jill | Sep 10, 2008 2:27:02 PM
I HATE BASEBALL CARDS!
Posted by: lakakoko | Sep 10, 2008 2:22:23 PM
Can we call her the Queen of Pork?
Posted by: McCain/Palin/Republicans Call a whaaaambulance | Sep 10, 2008 2:15:24 PM
The bottom line is that Mr. Nobama needs the white vote and he will only get if on the east and west coasts.He will not get the white vote in middle America. It also appears that Mr. Nobama is running against Mrs. Palin, poor campaign strategy so far. And as far as Joe biden is concerned, he was born with a golden shoe in his mouth.......And he is good at it.
Posted by: SNAKE PLISKIN AND HIS AMAZING FREAK SHOW, Md. | Sep 10, 2008 1:48:44 PM
It is an "old expression"...yeah, a very old and overused expression that really is irrelevant here. It is like the kid who gets picked on and then cannot come up with a good comeback. "oh, yeah?...well, well... uh... your mother wears army boots!"
Posted by: JC | Sep 10, 2008 1:39:04 PM
Does anyone remember when Barack put his middle finger across his cheek when he mentioned Hilary during the primaries and he denied that it was intentional.
I think this man has a problem with women.
Does he have any high ranking woman on his campaign staff. I think not.
By the way, I think his mentor Wright's latest concubine could use some glossy lipstick.
Posted by: Koskidfan | Sep 10, 2008 1:28:57 PM
I laughed when read that Obama and his campaign now say that he wasn't speaking about Palin when he said his lipstick/pig comment.
Does he expect us to believe he hadn't seen Palins speech or the constant replaying of her hockeymom/lipstick joke?
This is just like him denying that he heard any crazy statments made by his Pastor of twenty years.
NewsFlash Obama!! Despite what your European friends think, Americans aren't THAT stupid.
Posted by: Shawn S | Sep 10, 2008 1:21:54 PM
Once again, it is getting close to the time of ridding this great nation of the liberal scum that not long ago enjoyed sucking old King George.
Revolution - Revolution - Revolution
Posted by: hunterwolf | Sep 10, 2008 1:18:58 PM
To calliguy55:
If you're undone about Palin giving the same speech for 13 days....then look to Obama who's been uttering the same darn thing for 19 months now.
At least Sarah's statements are full grammatically correct paragraphs that make sense.
Obamas two-worder (less than a one-liner...) "hope" & "change" are getting somewhat tiresome as well - particularly with no back-up to support the words or the promised concepts.
Posted by: beggingthequestion | Sep 10, 2008 1:13:57 PM
*Pit Bull*
Posted by: McCain/Palin/Republicans Call a whaaaambulance | Sep 10, 2008 12:42:00 PM
McCain gambled on a Pig Bull and now squeals like a hog.
Posted by: McCain/Palin/Republicans Call a whaaaambulance | Sep 10, 2008 12:41:12 PM
America to Jake Tapper: putting lipstick on a pig is an idiom that has been part of American English for longer than you have been alive.
Posted by: The Third Policeman | Sep 10, 2008 12:28:47 PM
More phony outrage from low information voters and a media out of control. Our election process combined with miserable 24/7 cable channels have become a complete embarrassment.
Posted by: motohara | Sep 10, 2008 12:27:02 PM
OBAMA MUST THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE STUPID !!!
It's one thing when Obama tries to cover up mistakes he's
made in private, or when he feebly tries to cover up or misdirect
us, by saying that he never heard Wright's anti-American sermons
over a 20 year period ... but, when Obama tells us that the
Palin lipstick/pig remark wasn't an insult directed towards
Governor Palin, then Obama is adding insult to injury towards
the American peo