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Oh, That Joe! (No. 16 in a Series) -- Obama Pitches Woo
September 23, 2008 7:11 AM
At a Washington, D.C., fundraiser Monday night, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., compared American voters skeptical of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., to jilted lovers reluctant to risk getting hurt again. But Biden guaranteed they would find a way to "love" Obama enough to elect him president come November.
"They like him," the Democratic vice presidential nominee said of voters. "They really want to believe. But their cynicism has been tweaked so much by the last eight years and even before that.
"It's like, 'God, I don't want to fall in love again,'" he assessed, continuing with his love-scarred electorate analogy. "'I don't want to fall in love again, because last time I did that, I really got hurt.' I'm telling you. I'm telling you. They love him. They just, they're just holding back because they know they better get it right this time. We better get it right this time.
"We get this wrong, man, we get this wrong, we end up with John McCain -- who's a fine guy, personally -- we end up with John McCain and his philosophy of governance, his foreign policy philosophy, his notion of national security, his economic template that he operates from," Biden told supporters who had gathered at the Georgetown mansion of former ambassador to Portugal Elizabeth Bagley. "We're in serious, serious, serious trouble.
"Everybody loves this guy," Biden said of Obama. "They just don't want to be –- they don't want to be fooled. They want to know more."
Biden admitted that even he wanted to know more about Obama before he accepted the number two spot, going so far as to fly out for a secret Minnesota meeting with Obama on Aug. 6.
"We sat up late one night when they smuggled me out to the Twin Cities for three hours and we talked," recalled the Delaware lawmaker. "And the central question I wanted to know is, does he believe as much as he appears to, does he really believe that we're going to be able to make some substantial, considerable change? Is he willing to take a chance, a chance on changing the nation?
"The nation is literally poised, even with the crisis on Wall Street," observed the loquacious Blue Hen. "Even with the crisis on Wall Street, they're poised, They're ready to stand up. They're ready to get up."
And that is why, promised Biden, burned by love or not, voters will find a way to love again and enable a Democratic victory come Nov. 4.
"We're going to win this," he assured the crowd. "I promise you we are going to win this. Our fears. Think about it -- sounds corny -- think about your hopes, because the American public's ready."
Predicting that voters aren't "really going to decide to lay down their cards until you get to the middle of October," Biden preached patience and optimism for Obama.
"Things are actually good out there," Biden said. "Average people get it. They're just not ready to put their nickel down yet. They're gonna wait a little longer. They want to be reassured because they don't want to fall in love again and it not be the real deal. He is the real deal. He is the real deal."
-- Jake Tapper and Matt Jaffe
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Yes, Joe, but will he respect you in the morning??
Posted by: midwestlady | Sep 24, 2008 12:05:11 AM
Oh Zank, get real. When you see the requirements for normal students to get into Harvard, remember they don't have affirmative action and all that to help. Normal students have to work to get there. They can't rely on a quota or a giveaway.
Posted by: midwestlady | Sep 24, 2008 12:04:08 AM
To Zank,
I worked for an Ivy league School and had occasion to speak to some of Obama’s professors during one summer break and by those accounts that Obama is the real deal, perhaps you should find out who some his professors were and ask them before you go shooting your mouth off based on some neoconservative dogma which fits your narrow ideological agenda
Posted by: Curtis J | Sep 23, 2008 8:19:20 PM
To Reality-my pal
I’m back!!!- And I’ve got that Joker feeling! Thanks for the spelling lesson reality. it could be the translator from word to this blog, nonetheless, what you are offering as proof is no more than subjective inference and not a direct sexist or racist statement, as far as stepping up to condemn the media for sexist remarks, let’s leave the whining to the republicans, and your reference or defense about Bill Clinton, well let’s just say its contradictory to say what he said wasn't racist and what Obama said was, they are both subject to interpretation
Posted by: Curtis J | Sep 23, 2008 7:30:09 PM
"They like him," the Democratic vice presidential nominee said of voters. "They really want to believe. But their cynicism has been tweaked so much by the last eight years and even before that."
Oh I get it.
Obama makes America's skin crawl..... and it's Bush's fault!!!
Shudda known
Posted by: notafool | Sep 23, 2008 6:47:21 PM
McCain/Palin after the
short-lived convention
bounce are falling out
of favor with voters.
McCain is closely
associated with the
failed war in Iraq and
the lack of government
regulation that led to
the financial collapse
on Wall Street.
Posted by: anon | Sep 23, 2008 3:59:04 PM
Terrorism is alive and well
because of the Bush and McCain
policies.
Economy is grievously sick
because the same cast of
Republican characters led
by Bush have been allowing
Wall Street to operate without
government oversight for
eight years.
Posted by: anon | Sep 23, 2008 3:51:14 PM
What's wrong with what Biden said here? Seems like this "series" is just taking the easy path of labeling every random thing he says as a gaffe. I like what he said and don't understand what was wrong with it.
Actually, I don't mind most of the alleged gaffes, because they are the result of candid, unfettered openness with the public, supporters, and the press. What's really happened isn't a non-stop gaffe attack, as you're implying here. Instead, I think the Straight Talk Express has unexpectedly reappeared amongst us, complete with 24/7 reporter access, and it just happens that Barack Obama's running mate Joe Biden is the candidate on board that bus.
Good for him and good for Obama for being strong enough to choose such a partner. Obama Biden 08!
Posted by: Fairfax Voter | Sep 23, 2008 1:56:13 PM
Obama can't win unless he dumps Biden (get's Biden to remove himself for "health reasons")and puts Hillary in the spot. He's planning it already. Joe knows it, that's why he's not checking what he says with Obiwan. Hillary should give Barry the finger, but pride and the hunger for power will probably prove too much for her.....
Posted by: Maura | Sep 23, 2008 1:23:51 PM
"Everybody loves this guy," Biden said of Obama.
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Well, Biden's wrong about THAT.
"Love" seems to be the flailing ticket's new theme -- Biden's blabla is the other side of a simply ghastly essay, "What Our Country Desperately Needs is a Leader Who Loves Us" by Alice Walker (from whose Pulitzer Prize-winning if politically-erratic pen The CHANGEling took his "We are the ones we've been waiting for" blabla).
Posted by: Belle Starr | Sep 23, 2008 11:25:17 AM
John McCain...The only Republican to oppose the 1st and 2nd admendments the most. Is he multi-faced? Yep. He bluffs, on all sides. Don't let his Oil Tycoon gamble with your lives. Vote 'NO', to McCain.
Posted by: historyforgotten | Sep 23, 2008 11:09:01 AM
Mike, buddy, you're wrong. You know who voted Repub last time around? People that thought that ABB (Anybody But Bush) wasn't a good enough reason to elect a President. And the Dems are doing it again. They're not running Obama. They're running anti-McCain and anti-Bush. The Dems need to do more to take back the Oval. It's simply bad strategy.
Posted by: Fish Man | Sep 23, 2008 11:07:21 AM
Hey Jake, why aren't you reporting abotu Joe Biden slandering the innocent man who had teh misfortune of bign involved in teh accident that claimed Biden's wife's life? You know, the one Biden has said was drinking when his wife pulled out in front of him? It is a complete lie, and teh attorney general of delaware at the time (you know the same position joe's son has now) has said there is no evidence whatsoever that the man was drinking. Joe Biden is a liar in the worst way. He wants the sympathy vote at the expense of an innocent man who is now dead and not able to defend himself. That's just too creepy to put into words.
Posted by: Kitty | Sep 23, 2008 10:51:09 AM
There are no Democrats on this thread that are pro McCain/Palin. This is all just a ruse to make it appear as if Obama has no support among his own party.
Your efforts are pretty transparent and rather pathetic.
The only way McCain can win this is by stealing the election. The Republican party is finished. The only ones who vote Republican anymore are those who refuse to open their eyes. They lie, cheat, steal and have no true morals. They only care about money, power and sex. That is the true Republican today.
Posted by: Mike | Sep 23, 2008 10:46:16 AM
"Fall in love" absurd would be an understatement for a phrase or choice of topic by a seasoned politician such as Biden. The facts are these:
A) Americans are sick of politics as usual but not enough to start a third party.
B) We need "some" change but not broad change, specifically targeted to stop corruption in the business sector.
C) We need government to shrink to a point that our lives are not consumed by it.
D) The majority vote should win when it is the will of the people.
E) Special interest groups should be shut out of the governmental grounds, that why we have elected officials, they should take the calls on their respected home turf.
F) Close fifty percent of all military bases in Western Europe.
E) Stop sending aid to countries who hate us.
F) Stop bending down and cuddling with 3% of our country who says everyone else must love them for who they are and acknowledge that what they do is just fine even at your schools, offices, and now in the church.
G) All weak kneed democrats must finally grow up, put up the crying towel, and get a job! (Non-Union is preferred as this cost me money!)
H) All republicans must start acting and performing like republicans, stop spending my money.
I) Make America independent again, not just oil, but in terms of all goods, we use and use them wisely.
How long can a demoncrate run on empty is simply amazing.
It is not even hot air just luke warm, does not help if your hot or if your cold, it is just there doing little.
Joe sounds as empty as Obama now.
Posted by: Kadius | Sep 23, 2008 10:44:04 AM
Biden is wrapping himself
up in love in No. 16.
We love to see him drop out.
Obama/Clinton '08
Posted by: anon | Sep 23, 2008 10:08:15 AM
I have fallen out of love...with McCain. I can't believe I supported him back in 2000. He's not who I thought he was.
Posted by: cincyr | Sep 23, 2008 10:06:20 AM
Hey Curtis J....
Anyone that missed the race baiting and sexist ploys by Obama will not recognize them now even if spelled out but:
1) Responding to a debate question on what he thought of Hillary, after Hillary went to great lengths to praise Obama, he said "She's likeable enough".....very sexist
2)Failure to step up and condem the media sexist remarks was encouraging them all.....very sexist
3) Pretending that Bill Clinton stating an historical fact, "Jesse Jackson won SC too"......race baiting for the stupid since anyone with IQ above 90 knew Clinton was not even slightly racist......Even Jesse Jackson said "no" that comment was not racist and then Obama decided to claim it was using "code words"....very much race baiting and meant to gain the support of fools.
4) While speaking to a large group Obama said the name Hillary and flipped the bird, then waited for his laugh......VERY SEXIST
5) Obama continues to use words carefully selected against Sarah Palin like the "you can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig"...he was clearly talking about Sarah and his audience believed him to be talking about Sarah....very SEXIST.....this is way different than when McCain was talking about Hillary's health care plan and used the old phrase...very different.
6) Obama claimed he would never say or believe that he lost the race if he lost, due to race but now we hear him talking about the dems that will not vote for a black man constantly and never talking about the blacks that are voting for him only because he is black.....racist
BY THE WAY, go back to vocab study:
The definition of con·so·nance (kns-nns)
n.
1. Agreement; harmony; accord.
2.
a. Close correspondence of sounds.
b. The repetition of consonants or of a consonant pattern, especially at the ends of words, as in blank and think or strong and string.
3. Music A simultaneous combination of sounds not requiring resolution to another combination of sounds for finality of effect and conventionally regarded as harmonious or pleasing.
Posted by: reality | Sep 23, 2008 10:01:26 AM
Good grief, what nonsense.
This guy could possibly be Vice President of the United States?!?
And, Joe, the more one finds out about Obama the LESS one likes about him. It is just too bad that the media does not investigate and report on him with the vigor they go after Palin.
+++++++++++
Does anyone know what grades Obama received in the 3 colleges he attended? Or the classes he took?
Does anyone know how Obama got into Harvard? (The average GPA is 3.9 to get in and LSAT scores of 176).
Obama was out of college for five years and then all of the sudden he is in Harvard. How?
In his book does he discuss this application to Harvard process? (One has to apply nearly a year ahead of time.) Only 8% of those students accepted have been out of school for over 5 years. Only about 11% of those that apply get accepted.
Did Obama apply for other Ivy League law schools at the same time or did someone grease the wheels and get him in Harvard and pay his tuition?
How was his tuition paid?
Posted by: Zank | Sep 23, 2008 9:53:34 AM
Ever since the Republicans
picked Governor Palin, we've
been calling for Biden's
dismissal. The latest buzz
from the grapevine says his
departure is imminent.
Obama/Clinton '08
Posted by: anon | Sep 23, 2008 9:52:42 AM
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