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Oh, That Joe! (No. 16 in a Series) -- Obama Pitches Woo
September 23, 2008 7:11 AM
At a Washington, D.C., fundraiser Monday night, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., compared American voters skeptical of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., to jilted lovers reluctant to risk getting hurt again. But Biden guaranteed they would find a way to "love" Obama enough to elect him president come November.
"They like him," the Democratic vice presidential nominee said of voters. "They really want to believe. But their cynicism has been tweaked so much by the last eight years and even before that.
"It's like, 'God, I don't want to fall in love again,'" he assessed, continuing with his love-scarred electorate analogy. "'I don't want to fall in love again, because last time I did that, I really got hurt.' I'm telling you. I'm telling you. They love him. They just, they're just holding back because they know they better get it right this time. We better get it right this time.
"We get this wrong, man, we get this wrong, we end up with John McCain -- who's a fine guy, personally -- we end up with John McCain and his philosophy of governance, his foreign policy philosophy, his notion of national security, his economic template that he operates from," Biden told supporters who had gathered at the Georgetown mansion of former ambassador to Portugal Elizabeth Bagley. "We're in serious, serious, serious trouble.
"Everybody loves this guy," Biden said of Obama. "They just don't want to be –- they don't want to be fooled. They want to know more."
Biden admitted that even he wanted to know more about Obama before he accepted the number two spot, going so far as to fly out for a secret Minnesota meeting with Obama on Aug. 6.
"We sat up late one night when they smuggled me out to the Twin Cities for three hours and we talked," recalled the Delaware lawmaker. "And the central question I wanted to know is, does he believe as much as he appears to, does he really believe that we're going to be able to make some substantial, considerable change? Is he willing to take a chance, a chance on changing the nation?
"The nation is literally poised, even with the crisis on Wall Street," observed the loquacious Blue Hen. "Even with the crisis on Wall Street, they're poised, They're ready to stand up. They're ready to get up."
And that is why, promised Biden, burned by love or not, voters will find a way to love again and enable a Democratic victory come Nov. 4.
"We're going to win this," he assured the crowd. "I promise you we are going to win this. Our fears. Think about it -- sounds corny -- think about your hopes, because the American public's ready."
Predicting that voters aren't "really going to decide to lay down their cards until you get to the middle of October," Biden preached patience and optimism for Obama.
"Things are actually good out there," Biden said. "Average people get it. They're just not ready to put their nickel down yet. They're gonna wait a little longer. They want to be reassured because they don't want to fall in love again and it not be the real deal. He is the real deal. He is the real deal."
-- Jake Tapper and Matt Jaffe
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"REALITY" above makes so many great points but missed one fact just a little - this NOVEMBER - 99.7 percent of whites who vote for MCCAIN over Obamiden will be voting based on experience and ethics and policy and it will have NOTHING to do with race - NADA
when you choose the LEADER of the free world, it is not about "feelings" - it is about analysis
BUT SINCE BIDEN USED THE METAPHOR, LETS' THINK ABOUT WHY SOMEONE FALLS IN LOVE AND THEN GETS HURT BADLY - IT'S BECAUSE THE ONE THEY "FELL IN LOVE" WITH PRETENDED TO BE ONE THING WHEN THEY WERE ANOTHER !!!!
I LIKED OBAMA AT FIRST - BUT IF YOU ARE NOT IN DENIAL, THEN YOU KNOW HE IS NOTHING LIKE WHAT HE CLAIMED TO BE - FORTUNATELY, I FIGURED IT OUT IN TIME TO AVOID TOO BAD OF A BROKEN HEART
OBAMIDEN WANTS YOU TO "FALL IN LOVE" WITH OBAMA RATHER THAN LOOK AT FACTS
LET'S LOOK AT FACTS - FOR ONE, WHO IS REALLY THE "BIG FAT LIAR" IN THIS RACE
WHO IS THE ONE WHO CANNOT BE TRUSTED AT ALL ??? (sure - all political advertising in the entire history of politics pushes the envelope with marketing baloney but everyone knows that - in this race, however, one candidate almost never tells the truth but is constantly arguing that his opponent is a liar - it is the worst I've ever seen and it is the demoCRITE candidate - OBAMIDEN who is the biggest liar - by FAR !!!)
LIES OF OBAMA;
LIE NUMBER ONE - BREAKING PLEDGE TO FINANCE CAMPAIGN ETHICALLY
LIE NUMBER TWO - TYING MCCAIN TO BUSH AFTER DEMOCRATS HAVE APPLAUDED MCCAIN FOR YEARS AS BEING DIFFERENT THAN BUSH
LIE NUMBER THREE - TAX CUTS FOR 95% OF AMERICA - OVER 30 PERCENT OF AMERICANS ARE NOT PAYING FEDERAL INCOME TAX, SO THIS IS A MATHEMATICAL IMPOSSIBILITY
LIE NUMBER FOUR - SARAH IS A FRAUD - THE FACT THAT SARAH HAS MADE SOME REFORMS IN ALASKA IS INDISPUTABLE
LIE NUMBER FIVE - I WILL BRING NON-PARTISANSHIP BACK TO WASHINGTON (BY PICKING THE MOST PARTISAN SENATOR AS YOUR RUNNING MATE AND BY TAKING ON YOUR OWN PARTY ZERO TIMES)
LIE NUMBER SIX - THE SEX ED IN KINDERGARTEN BILL WAS ALL ABOUT PREDATOR PROTECTION AND NOTHING ELSE - SIMPLY NOT TRUE - GO READ IT YOURSELF
LIE NUMBER SEVEN - I RESPECT THE DIGNITY OF HUMAN LIFE - RRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT - YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BABIES BORN ALIVE DIE IF THEIR MOM WANTED IT THAT WAY - DISGUSTING
LIES NUMBER EIGHT THROUGH 10,000; MCCAIN LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING AND OBAMA ABOUT NOTHING - GET READY TO HERE THAT ONE 20,000 MORE TIMES (LIKE ON SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE FOR EXAMPLE)
I COULD GO ON - BUT LIE NUMBER ONE WAS BY ITSELF ENOUGH TO TURN THIS INDEPENDENT REPUBLICAN
how can you tell when obama is lying ??
answer
his lips are moving
Posted by: tojoley | Sep 23, 2008 9:43:25 AM
i love biden
whats up with palin what is she doing?
Posted by: Bhrandon | Sep 23, 2008 9:41:40 AM
what the heck is woo
Posted by: Omentum | Sep 23, 2008 9:41:33 AM
Hey reality...
I'll bet you can't name me one direct sex or race card quote that Obama has spoken and I don't mean media spin paraphrase or inference. What you are doing is called consonance, that means setting a reality of your own comfort and then seeking to justify it
Posted by: Curtis J | Sep 23, 2008 9:34:09 AM
To Dennis
Sounds like Judge Thomas all over again, I too am an African American and history tells me that this country was build on the concept of people helping people as well as small business owners like yourself. How you cast your vote is your business but it is the philosophy of people like you that gave a Bush Administration two terms which has turned the world upside down and not for the good, we are all going to have to pay out of our collective pockets to get out of the mess your, experienced, strong national defense, non regulating, no taxing, take care of your ownself republicans have placed us in. I am voting for Obama/Biden because they are pragmatic intelligent men of reason and this time around America can not afford less.
Posted by: Curtis J | Sep 23, 2008 9:27:12 AM
Hey Timothy james Adkins, it is that kind of thinking that will have you and many Obama followers shocked on Nov. 5th. If Obama had not played the sexist and racist cards and had put out any ideas of his own that made sense then and only then would the thinking dems have voted for him. I and many others will never be goated into voting for this fool just because his followers label those that do the research and find nothing to vote for in him as racist. I myself have never voted against a democrat, have voted for Governor Patrick Duval, a black man in MA and have voted against a woman running for Governor in this state but I will never vote Obama this year or most likely any other year simply because he chose to play these sexist and racist games rather than come up with any good ideas of his own. Young women did not fight the fight for womens rights, we the older women did and many of us will not have Hillary dissed like this. Palin is not the type of woman I would like to vote for but she has good ideas to solve our energy crisis and no chance of overturning Roe v Wade since all nominees for Supreme Court Justice must be approved by a majoprity of the Senate which is democrat.....however if by chance Roe v Wade did get overturned for a few years, it would be the fault of the young and niave people that followed this empty suit and then maybe, just maybe these young followers would learn to use their vote more wisely in the future. This is not high school where when you failed one test they let you retake it the next week, this is the real world......you should have stood tall and voted loudly for Senator Hillary Clinton this time......perhaps in 2012 you will have learned to vote on the issues and not skin color.
Posted by: reality | Sep 23, 2008 9:19:17 AM
I'm African American and proud of it ... here's why I won't be voting for Obama/Biden:
- he will raise my income taxes. I worked my tail off as a small business owner to get where I am. I already pay my fair share. The top 10% of income earners already pay 70% of the income taxes! strike one.
- he will raise the capital gains tax and the inheritance tax. The financial service industry will go farther in the tank. Therefore the NYC region economy will tank. My local taxes will go up. strike two.
- he will be perceived as weak and indecisive in foreign policy. China, Russia, and AQ will test us. I'm a veteran and think strong national security is job one of our president. Strike three
Posted by: Dennis | Sep 23, 2008 8:56:42 AM
Write in Ron Paul, and salvage your self respect, if not your country.
Posted by: Squachem | Sep 23, 2008 8:55:37 AM
I can see why Biden has to plagarize. Did Obama even vet this guy?
Posted by: geevill | Sep 23, 2008 8:54:37 AM
As peoplepointout that the candidates positions are online, also take a little time to investigate who owns Joe Biden's home. MBNA, the credit card company based in his state bought his home for more than it was worth. They alsoemployed his son as a lobbyist. Biden is theman that pushed to stop the little people from being able to declare bankruptcy to get out from under their enormous debts caused by the same predatory lending that got us into this mess. Its all smoke and mirrors fromthese candidates
Posted by: glennmcgahee | Sep 23, 2008 8:47:27 AM
Clinton was the best hope for democrats, now you settle for a mouthy freshman who is not up to any White House task.
Posted by: Kadius | Sep 23, 2008 8:45:13 AM
Have you considered this?
Hillary backed out because she was forced by a very clever freshman senator?
What would he have on her to cause her to start slipping, on purpose to draw his numbers closer to hers?
When the numbers got close she began to waiver on many issues and stopped attacking him (Obama).
Think about it democrates you are part of a plan that slapped your best chances of teh White House in the face.
Posted by: Kadius | Sep 23, 2008 8:42:42 AM
It is pretty sad when republicans are so anti democratic they are willing to go to war for a ticket like McCain and Palin or is it Palin and McCain? when there so many other republicans out there, who, if they were running, actually be winning big. I as a democrat have felt safe under other republican leaders Like papa Bush and Reagan but McCain adn Palin really scare me as they should everyone else
Posted by: Curtis J | Sep 23, 2008 8:37:24 AM
"And the central question I wanted to know is, does he believe as much as he appears to, does he really believe that we're going to be able to make some substantial, considerable change?" wow, that's what Biden wanted to know? That he (Obama) believes as much as he appears. I got news for you some people really believe in Santa, it doesn't mean a jolly fat man in a red suit will be backing his fat butt down your chimney.
Also, I find it so funny how Obama and Biden keep spouting about how great this nation is and in the same breath tell us how they want to change it.
Posted by: Josh | Sep 23, 2008 8:30:00 AM
Obama has a very bad judgement about things. That explains his "present" vote in most scenarios. As a president you don't get to vote "present". You simply can't say you have an excellent record just because you don't have any by voting "Present" or with your own party.
Change is something that you must have proved in the past you are capable of. A man having no judgement is worser than a man with a bad judgement. Atleast the man with bad judgement can get some negative feed back and there is hope for correcting the same.
Obama needs his posse to make a decision. He is a "yes man" of his party.
Posted by: laadlabakdaas | Sep 23, 2008 8:29:26 AM
"Fall in love" absurd would be an understatement for a phrase or choice of topic by a seasoned politician such as Biden. The facts are these:
A) Americans are sick of politics as usual but not enough to start a third party.
B) We need "some" change but not broad change, specifically targeted to stop corruption in the business sector.
C) We need government to shrink to a point that our lives are not consumed by it.
D) The majority vote should win when it is the will of the people.
E) Special interest groups should be shut out of the governmental grounds, that why we have elected officials, they should take the calls on their respected home turf.
F) Close fifty percent of all military bases in Western Europe.
E) Stop sending aid to countries who hate us.
F) Stop bending down and cuddling with 3% of our country who says everyone else must love them for who they are and acknowledge that what they do is just fine even at your schools, offices, and now in the church.
G) All weak kneed democrats must finally grow up, put up the crying towel, and get a job! (Non-Union is preferred as this cost me money!)
H) All republicans must start acting and performing like republicans, stop spending my money.
I) Make America independent again, not just oil, but in terms of all goods, we use and use them wisely.
How long can a demoncrate run on empty is simply amazing.
It is not even hot air just luke warm, does not help if your hot or if your cold, it is just there doing little.
Joe sounds as empty as Obama now.
Posted by: Kadius | Sep 23, 2008 8:25:43 AM
Where is the series that counts the lies coming out of McCain and Palin's mouth? Or would that be too much work for ABC?
Posted by: Enviro | Sep 23, 2008 8:19:55 AM
Hey Reality, life long Democrats don't make comments like those. Give it up already. You'er nothing but a right wing Republican stooge who thinks only in terms of black and white, right and wrong. The REALITY is that the world is far more complex than that and is filled with an infinite number of shades of grey.
Baby killing? Pu-Lease!
Posted by: Timothy james Adkins | Sep 23, 2008 8:19:10 AM
How long can a demoncrate run on empty is simply amazing.
It is not even hot air just luke warm, does not help if your hot or if your cold, it is just there doing little.
Joe sounds as empty as Obama now.
Posted by: Kadius | Sep 23, 2008 8:12:35 AM
This is nauseating. This election should be a blow out for the Dems. It isn't a blow out because people have serious reservations about Obama. This is not about being inclined, but afraid to fall in love with him. Many of us life-long Dems can't even muster enough respect to like the guy. We are concerned about his lack of experience and the absence of any achievements that demonstrate a capacity to lead--to drive bipartisan consensus to actually get things done.
Posted by: NJH | Sep 23, 2008 8:12:25 AM
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