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Oh, That Joe! (No. 7 in a Series) -- On Being the Old Man, Obama Being Steel, and the Inevitable Obama/Osama Slip-up
September 02, 2008 10:13 PM
At a town hall meeting at the Palm Beach County Convention Center in West Palm Beach, Florida, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del, ignored pleas from his staff to wrap up, and riffed for an hour and 15 minutes.
The evening was full of Biden-isms, including the inevitable Obama/Osama slip, made when Biden was discussing the mountainous Afghanistan-Pakistan border "where Obama, Osama Bin Laden lives, and Obama wants to go to get him."
The ebullient son of Scranton did not disappoint, telling one questioner concerned with how the Democratic ticket would withstand "Swift boat-style" attacks that they would respond with "a straight left and a right hook. Hey baby, I want to tell ya, we ain't laying down, We are not going to lay down. Period. If you know anything about me, that's what worries people. We are not going to lay down."
At another moment, he said, "when I hear people say, ‘Hey Joe, geez, I understand your values. I connect with you. But I don’t know about that other guy.’ Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. If Barack Obama grew up in my neighborhood in Scranton or Claymont or Wilmington, Delaware, he would have been the guy who had my back. If Barack Obama had grown up in my neighborhood, he would have been the same guy he is now.
"I’ve got to tell you, I’m tired," Biden continued. "Let me tell you. If you’re looking for a very sophisticated, Harvard graduate who went to Columbia undergrad and was president of the Law Review, he’s totally intellectual. Baby, you ain’t seen nothing yet. This guy is steel. This guy is steel, and I assure you that."
(As an aside, I have to say, I'm not sure that the voters looking for a very sophisticated, totally intellectual Harvard graduate who went to Columbia undergrad and was president of the Law Review are the ones Obama needs help winning over)
At another point, Biden riffed on being the older presence on the ticket, saying, "my role in this campaign is I’m the old man. I really thought I was still in pretty good shape. But I watched when they, when Barack, as they say, 'rolled out,' his, his, Vice President nominee. Half of the people in America thought I was going to get 'rolled out.' I don’t know.
"And I was listening to one of the news broadcasts after we had that great event in Springfield, Illinois, and there...was a runway to get up to the, to get up to the microphone from the door we came out. And I came out, and it was a long way away, I didn’t want to hold people up, so I started jogging. Next morning, I listen, I think it was Gwen Ifill, who I love, Gwen Ifill said, you know, something to the effect that, 'It was a great speech, but Biden shouldn’t run.' I thought, What are you talking about I shouldn’t run? What do you mean I shouldn’t run? So, you know, I don’t like young guys anymore."
Baby, you ain't seen nothin' yet. How true.
-- Jake Tapper and Matt Jaffe
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"people who "serve" the public ... "
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Politicians -- none more than Biden/Obama -- mostly "serve" the people to the sharks.
Meanwhile, every apparatchik from city council on up enjoys publicly-paid health care -- the US Congress, with its single-deigit approval rating and its do-nothing (except for terrorism and war) permanent campaign, have health care FOR LIFE for their entire families -- pasha-level compensation, and some -- Obama, prince of FISA, for instance -- pick up mob money on the side.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Sep 3, 2008 3:51:29 PM
Welcome to our world, Elizabeth!
Posted by: Donn Hughes | Sep 3, 2008 2:32:09 PM
What unpleasant people there are on here. I hope none of the public servants -- yes, people who "serve" the public and handle a lot of tough issues so that folks like you have time and freedom to sit around and play darts with their names and reputations -- never wander on here and see how little appreciation they are given. And that goes for Obama, Biden, McCain, Palin and the rest. I truly think many of you should get some help for anger management ... and empty lives.
Posted by: Elizabeth | Sep 3, 2008 1:53:48 PM
"The Dems want this tool one unqualified heartbeat away from the Presidency?"
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If this ticket to hell were elected, does anybody really doubt that Biden wouldn't be "a heartbeat away" for LONG?
Better to vote for McCain and hope for Palin.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Sep 3, 2008 12:33:44 PM
The Dems want this tool one unqualified heartbeat away from the Presidency?
Posted by: geevill | Sep 3, 2008 12:26:59 PM
Way to go Biden.... Osama is very hard to get Wright. Not voting for him...ever.
Posted by: Debra | Sep 3, 2008 11:53:55 AM
Palin does scare me because she looks to me like a religious extremist who wants to inject her beliefs into Affairs of State, and teach Chrisitian mythology in our schools. I don't like any form of religious extremism, be it Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or whatever. I don't care at all if you practice your own beliefs, but don't try to impose them on me or anyone else who isn't interested. If she and McCain should get elected then she will be catapaulted onto the national stage to start her down the road with all of her ambitions of injecting religion into national policy.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | Sep 3, 2008 11:31:03 AM
"Quite the contrast from plastic fantasic Palin who cites running a town into debt as her executive experience and a fictionalized stint as head of the Alaskan National Guard in charge of our national defense."
Other than the fact that you don't seem to be able to write original material, Ryan, you do need to notice who is heading the tickets.
One is an experienced military commander and Senator with decades of legislation passed. The other is a Harvard grad with a long history of muscling his opponents out of the race and otherwise, continuously running for office.
One is a man who resisted torture. The other is a man who went to work with the very same people who endorsed the torture.
One is a master of strategy and persistence when getting tough laws passed to reduce spending. The other is a man who used pork barrel to give his racist minister a retirement mansion and his wife a six figure salary.
Need I go on?
Sarah Palin is really the least of your problems in this campaign but she scares you bad. That is a theme in the Obama campaign: push the women back toward the kitchen or otherwise demean them until they can't fight back. Now that's a buggin' problem.
Obama is being done in by his own supporters.
Posted by: len | Sep 3, 2008 10:59:44 AM
Did anyone notice that this article only presented what the writer considered to be goofy or negative stuff? I've heard Joe speak several times and there has aways been a lot more substance to it. Sure there is some clowning around in between, but that's just Joe. He loves politics and campaigning, and his staff is always going a bit crazy trying to get him to leave because he will stay until the last question has been answered.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | Sep 3, 2008 10:53:15 AM
In the last 5 days, the media has come up with all kinds of negative stories about Sarah Palin, all of which have been proven to be either outright false (Palin is a secessionist!) or premature (Troopergate investigation whic is still ongoing). They did, however, manage to drag her 17 year old daughter's pregnancy into the national spotlight. Proud moment for the media there.
In the 12 days since Biden was selected, how many articles have you seen about Biden's lobbyist son and his connection to MBNA (who profited handsomely from that bankruptcy legislation pushed by Biden)? How about biden's gaughter who was arrensted for assaulting a police officer?
That's what I thought.
Posted by: Disgusted | Sep 3, 2008 10:32:43 AM
Biden received less votes in his 2008 Primary U.S. Presdential bid than Palin received when she won her election to be mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.
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Keep Joe Biden talking; some day there will be a cure for foot-in-mouth disease.
Posted by: Sally J. | Sep 3, 2008 10:30:51 AM
During the last 18 months, Sarah Palin has been running a state, while Obama has been running a traveling rockshow (or rather, his campaign manager has been... all Obama has to do is show up and give stirring speeches).
I like how Obama is claiming that running for president is the kind of experience that qualifies him to BE the president.
Nice circular logic there. Not much of a deep thinker, is he?
Posted by: Dave in SoCal | Sep 3, 2008 10:23:17 AM
"I didn’t want to hold people up, so I started jogging."
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Sounds like he "held people up" for quite a while in Palm Beach County, though, to hear about what a virile guy he is.
As for his presidential candidate's "steel", it's been conspicuously absent from his school days, in every area but getting himself to the top -- FISA, Iraq, offshore drilling -- and living above his means with the help of mobsters.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Sep 3, 2008 10:02:09 AM
His two aneurysms many years ago
may have caused some permanent
brain impairment.
Posted by: anon | Sep 3, 2008 9:57:06 AM
Of course Biden confused Obama with Osama. So do most Americans. The two men are very similar.
Posted by: RealLiberal | Sep 3, 2008 9:50:51 AM
He's a joke.
HEE HAW
Posted by: j | Sep 3, 2008 9:14:28 AM
of course Obama would have his back. Obama would be covering in fear behind Joe. Someone should ask Biden if he would attend United Trinity with Pastor Wright for 20 years.
Posted by: geevill | Sep 3, 2008 9:02:55 AM
You really have gotta love Biden. So much for the polished, spun world of modern politics. He is refreshing, and is so obviously enjoying himself.
Posted by: markymark | Sep 3, 2008 6:08:38 AM
Geez, this guy is embarrassing. I'm so glad I re-registered as an Independent. Otherwise, I'd feel obligated to defend this stuff.
Posted by: karlee | Sep 3, 2008 5:18:43 AM
Love the nervous aides trying to get him to shut up and Joe's Obama resume building is priceless
"“Let me tell you. If you’re looking for a very sophisticated, Harvard graduate who went to Columbia undergrad and was president of the Law Review, he’s totally intellectual. Baby, you ain’t seen nothing yet. This guy is steel. This guy is steel, and I assure you that.”"
Yeah, that's exactly what voters want in a President.
Too funny.
Posted by: SingSong | Sep 3, 2008 1:27:09 AM
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