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"So don’t believe those commercials," Obama concluded. "I’m a tax-cutter. I’m gonna put some money in your pockets so you can spend that money buying groceries and buying gas and you can help that small business."

Right Barry. 40% of tax fliers pay no taxes...they get money PAID to them because of tax credits.

Barry's ephemeral tax cut for 95% of Americans (ever wonder why he doesn't phrase it 95% of tax-payers?) will just re-distribute more money from tax-PAYERS pockets to NON-TAXPAYER pockets.

Why? Because the non-taxpayers are Barry's Base.

It's called s o c i a l i s m.

davei n lv,

"Clinton had an average unemployment rate of 5.85% with a high of 7.3%. Carter had an unemployment rate of over 12%. The Depression had unemployment rates of about 25%. We went from 5.8% to 6.1% unemployment. According to a few Dems, Depression here we come!"

Curious, did they count 20 hr/wk "jobs" as being employed back then? Do we now? Were employed H1B visa recipients included in the "employed" group back then? Are they now?

The only thing that is keeping the unemployment rate lower than they actually are is the new ways to "account" these numbers. Stats do indeed lie.

Obama/Biden 08!
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Obama/Biden 08!

More about Shadow governer Todd Palin of Alaska-John Harris, the Republican speaker of the Alaska House, said he had never been called by the spouse of a governor, before the two calls he got from Todd Palin. One was to argue for moving the state capital to Anchorage. The other was to ask Harris to "keep an eye" on a key aide who had an affair with the wife of one of Todd's best friends.

What has happened to Alaskas crime reat, debt, and prices on rape kits. They sky-rocketed through her glass ceiling. Alaska needs help now. Do not let the Palins get away with fraud. Alaska is feeling the repercussions of Sarahs impact WITH coruption. SHE FAILED Alaska. Do not let her fail America. Let her respond to this.

"Foreign banks, which were initially excluded from the plan, lobbied successfully over the weekend to be able to sell the toxic U.S. mortgage debt owned by their American units to the Treasury, getting the same treatment as United States banks."

Republicans bail out the world and leave Americans broke..... that's 'reform' we can believe in.

Obama and McCain Tax Proposals
According to a new analysis by the Tax Policy Center, a joint project of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution,...

Obama's plan gives the biggest cuts to those who make the least, ...

while McCain would give the largest cuts to the very wealthy.

Common Sense

Clinton had an average unemployment rate of 5.85% with a high of 7.3%.

Carter had an unemployment rate of over 12%.

The Depression had unemployment rates of about 25%.

We went from 5.8% to 6.1% unemployment.

According to a few Dems, Depression here we come!

Obama has said "those collecting dividends and receiving capital gains should pay the same taxes as any wage earner." That would be 38%.

He has also said the capital gains rate should be less than 28%.

In his interview with O'Reilly he said the capital gains rate would go from 15% to "no more than 20%".

In his interview with George Steph on ABC he wouldn't raise ANY tax while we're in a recession.

For some reason what Obama's been saying isn't showing up on his own website.

Is that because his advisors don't agree and won't go along with it, that he didn't REALLY mean what he says, or is he just changing faster than his web maintenace can keep up?

hippiechucker,

"Bottom line, folks....Obama wants to raise taxes, and he has too, not to help you and me, but to pay for nearly a trillion in new spending, to pay for pet liberal projects like universal child care for everyones children."

You can't be serious! Liberal pet projects? Republican Paulson's proposed welfare package for Wall Street pushes the national debt to approximately $12 TRILLION and he is demanding that no relief be granted for taxpayers.

Do you people watch the news?

Obama/Biden 08!

davei n lv,

"Obama has recently stated in an interview on ABC "This Week" he would hold off on ALL tax increases, including those making $250k while we are in a recession. Why isn't anyone asking about the inconsistancy between what he says and what is on his website?
Why isn't anyone asking what effect this would have on the deficit and our total debt?"

Er.. maybe we're too busy asking the question WHY ARE WE IN A RECESSION HEADING TOWARDS A DEPRESSION??? Haven't you heard, the Republican leadership is asking for a bail-out of Wall Street!

Obama/Biden 08!

Experience
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>
>> You couldn't get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after
>>> 143 days of experience.
>>>
>>> You couldn't become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience
>>> of being a surgeon.
>>>
>>> You couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after
>>> 143 days of experience.
>>>
>>> You couldn't join the military and become a colonel after a 143 days
>>> of experience.
>>>
>>> You couldn't get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news
>>> anchor after 143 days of experience.
>>>
>>> BUT....
>>>
>>> From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to
>>> the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory
>>> committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That's how
>>> many days the Senate was actually in session and working. After 143
>>> days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander
>>> In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham
>>> Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan. 143 days.
>>>

Do you really believe Bab's and her Hollywood ilk would raise $11 million dollars for campaign funding knowing their taxes would be raised????
I can hear them now,Yea big O, Raise my taxes...
What do they know that we don't know???

Obama has recently stated in an interview on ABC "This Week" he would hold off on ALL tax increases, including those making $250k while we are in a recession.

Why isn't anyone asking about the inconsistancy between what he says and what is on his website?

Why isn't anyone asking what effect this would have on the deficit and our total debt?

McCain wants to tax your employer-paid health insurance. Basically, if your health insurance plan costs $11,000 a year, you may pay $3,000 of that and your employer may pay $8,000 of that.

The value of that health insurance, the $8,000, is not currently taxed. McCain wants to change the tax code so that it will be.

(see health08dotorg, 2008 Presidential Candidate Health Care Proposals:
Side-by-Side Summary)

Giving tax cuts to the wealthy during a time of war is unpatriotic.

And those of you repeating the line that Obama voted 94 times to raise taxes, you obviously saw Palin on Hannity and are repeating the lie.

This accusation was debunked by Factcheckdotorg last JULY! Titled, "Tax Tally Trickery".

"How does adding more money for education as Obama wants to, help things?"
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It goes toward assuring that underclass kids -- miseducated on purpose -- will be made clueless about the world in which they actually live, and that ALL the candidates for national political office in the futute will come from private or Catholic prep schools.

As it is, the only presidential-ticket candidate who went to public school is Palin. A good reason to vote for her.

Handouts/Welfare/Reparations

Health Insurance even to illegal immigrants.

Obama has voted 94 times to raise taxes.

He has to raise taxes to fund his earmarks and handouts. Just look at his record.

Obama's claims that "you won't see your taxes increased a single dime" if you make less than 250k are laughable. Taxing business obviously results in higher costs for everyone. Example...Taxing oil companies more...does what...it increases their overhead...and if they have as a goal a 7% margin, then they raise the price of fuel.

The outrageous part of the Biden quote is that no mention is made of cutting spending!!!
Spending by our massive federal govt. is the problem, folks. Its system wide, too. We've got a Dept of Education that doesn't hire or fire teachers, or maintain schools...and it costs 18 billion a year. And private schools aren't under its jurisdiction, and do fine if not better.
Does the Dept of Agriculture grow food?

By the way, we've poured untold hundreds of BILLIONS into the dept of Education, only to generally see lower test scores year to year. How does adding more money for education as Obama wants to, help things?

I often wonder if we'd be seeing this much hatred of McCain from the left if he had switched parties like Kerry wanted him too, and he had seriously considered after his run-ins with Bush in 2000. To hear all of you talk, he's a Bircher.
Give me a break.

Bottom line, folks....Obama wants to raise taxes, and he has too, not to help you and me, but to pay for nearly a trillion in new spending, to pay for pet liberal projects like universal child care for everyones children.

In terms of the protectionist tone that alot of Obama folks take, its important to remember that after his blustering about repealing NAFTA, he sent an aide to privately tell the Canadians that its just election year bullcrap. Look it up...and then do some thinking. How will massive corporate taxes affect jobs....positively?

Those of you railing about jobs moving to China, need to understand that jobs are always on the move. Anybody who's been to the Northeast sees lots of empty factories, whose industry left for the South after the war....because the cost of doing business was CHEAPER.

The only way, the only certain way, to keep jobs is to reduce the burden on business to stop the flow of jobs elsewhere.
Turns out there's lots of Chinese out of work now, having lost their jobs to the Vietnamese. Get it?

Unless we're willing to completely turn over our businesses to the government, jobs will always come and go in a capitalist society, and Obama's taxes can only hasten that movement through his higher taxation.

Meanwhile, it's Palin who actually succeeded in transferring some ill-gotten corporate gains to the people of Alaska.
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Something to be proud of.

meggie,

Small businesses have failed to hire people. I hope they make a law that says selling people's credit reports and girlie magazines from their basement does not constitute a business. These scam jobs must go because they have no intention of expanding their "businesses" and I'm tired of paying for your write-offs.

If you're small business material that can drive the economy, figure out how to expand your business and hire people. It defies common sense to say you cannot hire people because of a small tax imposition. To do so, one would have to completely disregard all the write-offs you get for employing people. To do so would say that you are only in business to avoid paying taxes.

Obama/Biden 08!

Payroll tax? Is that what the U.S. should charge for employers that shipped jobs overseas? Is that what the U.S. should charge for employers that lay off Americans to hire cheap H1B visa recipients from other contries?

Well, OK!

Obama/Biden 08!

Has anyone asked what Obama is going to do about capital gains taxes, death taxes and payroll taxes. He is raising taxes on everybody guaranteed. Look at his senatorial voting record on taxes he has done it 4 times check it out go to senate.gov its there. This guy will do and say anything to get elected. The economy has not been that bad wake up America in 2001 we got nailed by terrorists and had a meltdown fromn the internet. Learn your economic history before you start quoting the crap the media is telling you. We will survive and it is and will not be anything like the great depression.

I think all those years with Rev Wright is beginning to show.

Obama showed his dislike of typical white people by yelling at a senior citizen in Iowa.

And they say McCain has a temper.
Can you imagine what the MSM would say if McCain yelled at someone?

"Obama has shown he will change positions at the drop of a hat. He will raise everyone's taxes because he is a committed socialist."
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Obama is a Republican-lite poseur who can't even bring himself to support national health. The only thing VAGUELY "socialist" about this fraud is his use of Stalinist tactics to suppress dissent to his claim to "it's in my DNA"-based divinity.

Obama's already backed OFF on rescinding the Bush tax cuts and jumped ON to Bush's corporate bailout bandwagon.

Obama is more like Bush than McCain is, by far. Meanwhile, it's Palin who actually succeeded in transferring some ill-gotten corporate gains to the people of Alaska.

if you people believe what you are writing here - this country is in even bigger trouble than we think

you don't have to vote for someone - but stop with the baloney

Are you better off than you were four years ago? eight years ago?

Wake up
It's the economy stupid

You can ignore anything Obama is saying about taxes. Obama has shown he will change positions at the drop of a hat. He will raise everyone's taxes because he is a committed socialist.

Obama is preaching to his faithful at those rallies--they are in denial, in a stupor, and refuse to believe the facts about The One.

The independents are very skeptical of Obama and have enough sense to look at his record.

jpt writes:
a small airplane flew overhead pulling a banner that read, "Raising taxes is not patriotic."
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Hurray! Maybe somebody will revive sky-writing.

'Long about now, whoever runs Democratic saboteur Kerry (who runs The CHANGEling) must be DRASTICALLY sorry for having put Biden in the VP slot.

The hijacked "Democrats" might do best to muzzle BOTH their candidates -- especially on using any variant of the word "patriot" -- and just buy the votes outright, the Chicago way.

That's right little sheep follow your messiah.

Look at his record if you dare--he voted 94 times to raise taxes.

He voted 97% with Pelosi, Reid and Democrats--they have a 9% approval rating.

He has never fought corruption and doesn't even have the guts to get rid of tax cheat Charlie Rangel right now.

Obama's 95% tax cut is a lie since 40% do not even pay taxes.

He will kill small businesses and the jobs that go with them.

These people are being hoodwinked because many of them probably work for small business.

Smiling Mr Nice Guy on the outside.

Chicago instigater on the inside.

"Get in the face of your neighbors and
argue if they disagree with me."

In other words--go do my dirty work suckers so I can sit back and look good.

Yea the way he kept his promise on FISA, townhall debates and public finance.

The way he says one thing in small towns about gun rights but votes for major gun restrictions.

The only people being hoodwinked are the
ones that absolutely refuse to believe the facts about Obama.

He's a radical thug from Chicago that didn't fight corruption but reveled in it.

ED,

That has already been completely disproved.

You are only making a fool of yourself.

People think that the Failin'-McGoo ticket is going to bring them mana from heaven after their fearless leaders jsut brought them socialism.

Move over, once again it's time for Democrats to drive.

Hoover
Nixon
Reagan
Bush 2

Kids with matches in a wooden house, over and over and over....

HOW CAN OBAMA BE PREIDENT IF HE'S NOT A CITIZEN OF THE U.S.A. HE WAS BORNED IN KENYA NOT HAWAII , ????? HE HAS A CERTIFIATION OF LIVE BIRTH ISSURED IN HAWAII BUT NOT A BIRTH CERTIFIC, THERE ARE NOT RECORDS OF HIS BIRTH IN ANY HOSPITALS IN HAWAII,

HEY!! WAKE UP!!!

He said PAYING taxes was patriotic, not raising them. If you think otherwise
you are either selfish and myopic beyond description or your favorite hobby is offshore accounts.

SHAME ON F E M A..........

SHAME ON INSURANCE COMPANIES......

"RAISING TAXES IS INDEED UN-PATRIOTIC"..

WE DON'T GET ANY SERVICE FROM THE
GOVERNMENT EVERYTIME WE DEPOSIT OUR
HARD EARNED MONEY....

CHECK THE HURRICANE VICTIMS IN TEXAS...
F E M A TURNED DOWN MOST OF THE
THE REQUESTS FOR HELP...AS UNQUALIFIED.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO PAY MORE TAXES???

I DON'T............

McCAIN/PALIN '08

Isn`t McCains Son (Andrew) involved in a Banking Scandal in Arizona, in which the Fed is investigating on the grounds of fraud?

The apple doesn't fall to far from the tree!

McCain / Palin = Unstable / Unable!

Well, I suppose McCain will then be exposed for corruption again, like he did in the Keating 5 scandal? And perhaps Palin will fire someone else for refusing to fire yet another relative for personal reasons, if you want to go by that.

Actually you're right, Obama IS going to raise taxes. For the UPPER-INCOME and corporations, so that we actually have SOME money to reverse the deficit. McCain wants to continue staying in Iraq, but HOW is he going to fund it? 12 billion dollars per month is no small amount.

The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. Obama has NEVER cut taxes. No matter what he says, he won't cut taxes.

Trickle Down My Leg,

Actually, most alarmingly, Bush hasn't even found 1 (closer to 3, actually) trillion dollars to wage the Iraq war. He's currently using America's credit card and billing everything to countries like China- that's how he was able to get away with not raising, and actually cutting taxes for a while. Well, since the number is running into the trillions already, you can just imagine the interest we're going to have to pay eventually.

Socialist policies do not make a country a socialist country. A socialist country would go much further- with the government owning EVERYTHING, like the entertainment, all the industries and sectors. It would be impossible for a president to try to change all of that. Government taking more charge of healthcare and welfare is pretty standard. No, the US is not in danger of becoming socialist/communist. The media and culture of freedom of speech Americans have enjoyed and believed in is something supremely difficult to dismantle.

Fran,

"Also Democratic Secretary of Treasurer Paulson delayed informing McCain and gave Obama plenty of notice of this current financial crisis."

Paulson is a Republican, so your assertions that he would withhold information from McCain is ridiculous.

Paulson was also the CEO of Goldman Sachs, the company that forced Lehman out of business with short-sales and rumor-mongering. Lehman is the only company the Bush regime forced into bankruptcy while all the other Wall Street gang gets a bail-out.

Paulson has worked for Republicans his entire life -- as far back as the Nixon administration.

Please stop being a republican lemming.

Obama/Biden 08!

Obama/Biden 08!

WHEN THE EXPORT OF JOBS --AND THE IMPORT OF CHINESE PRODUCTS STOPS --THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY WILL START TO RECOVER---THE SUPERSTORES AND THEIR IMPORTS ARE DESTROYING US----WE HAVE BEEN SOLD OUT FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS --LIKE IT OR NOT IF THERE IS NO CONTROLLS, WE WILL SEE IT GET A LOT WORSE HERE----A FACT THAT NO ONE CAN DENY.

Do your homework. Jimmy Carter started deregulating oil, railroads, trucking and airlines. Bill Clinton deregulated the financial institutions.
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I beleive if you do your homework, you may find:.

Under Carter, there was a REPUBLICAN congress. (You know, the folks who actually make the laws - well excluding Cheney and Bush who make their own laws)

They started the deregulation push that was a cornerstone of the Reagan campaign.

The Congress was also controlled by Republicans during the time when financial deregulation occured under Clinton.

It isn't that black and white. Most economists agree that overly-controlled markets are not a good idea for maximizing gain and efficiency. But there has to some oversights to prevent the collapses we've seen these last two weeks.

Anyway, I'm off to church to pray for a pipeline.

SINCE WE HAVE SUCH MASSIVE TRADE IMBALANCE--AND INVESTORS CREATING JOBS DO SO IN OTHER COUNTRIES---SUCKING THE LIFE OUT OF US---JUST MAYBE WE SHOULD START A TRADE TAX----AND DONT TELL US WE WILL BE HURT---THAT IS UNLESS YOU WANT TO WORK FOR A DOLLAR OR TWO PER HOUR WITH ABSOLUTELY NO BENIFITS OR REGARD FOR THE ENVIROMENT----WE ARE ON OUR WAY TO BEING A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY---THE MASSIVE TRADE IMBALANCE HAS TO BE STOPPED----OUR GOVERNMENT HAS GONE CRAZY,AND BIG BUSINESS SUCH AS WALMART MAKES BILLIONS AND WE GET CRAP.JOBS PAID AS MUCH 20 YEARS AGO---WE MUST DEMAND CHANGE.STOP THE EXPORT OF JOBS.

Fran,

"Correction: Jim Johnson, who was Barack Obama's economic advisor, was not only CEO and Vice Chairman of Fannie Me, he was also a managing director at Lehman Brothers"

Try again. More corrections needed in your diatribe. Hannity, Limbaugh, etc., are not a credible sources.

Obama/Biden 08!

Republicans, in EVERY election, always use words like "socialism" and "communism" as a lame attemt to try and discredit a more democratic economic policy.

Yah, I hear ya there McCarthy!

Our system has NEVER been a pure capitalist system. The recent bailout shows that all too clearly.

We have always had regulations, price controls, tarrifs, import duties, etc. that all affect the nature of the various markets. It's an obvious mixture of various economic concepts.

Our nation was founded on the principle of a government FOR THE PEOPLE. And "the people" are the majority - not just the top 15% of the wealthiest Americans.

The current Republican administration (the most corrupt in over half a century)has ONLY catered to the minority of mega-rich individuals. McCain proposes more of the same. And his sidekick speaks using WORD-FOR-WORD slogans that were used by Bush. They "reform" nothing.

NO WAY WE REWARD THE REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO OUR COUNTRY!

They'll just continue the same course and do it again.

d0,

"Ask him why did he vote for that $12 billion dollars? Just because he will tell you now he will stop spending it? Smart you-know-what."

Spoken like a true "republican patriot"! If Obama did wrong by ensuring that our military (in an already ongoing war) could have supplies needed to avoid slaughter, I don't know what to tell you. What you are saying is the equivalent of having your neighbor send your child on a life-threatening wild-goose chase, then faulting you for sending your own child the money to get home.

It is unpatriotic to be a republican in 2008! They'd rather leave our military to fend for themselves and pull themselves up by their bootstraps (Haliburton) than to ensure their safety.

Obama/Biden 08!

Correction: Jim Johnson, who was Barack Obama's economic advisor, was not only CEO and Vice Chairman of Fannie Me, he was also a managing director at Lehman Brothers

Do your homework. Jimmy Carter started deregulating oil, railroads, trucking and airlines. Bill Clinton deregulated the financial institutions. Franklin Raines and James Johnson worked in his administration. Clinton's administration created Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and put these two good ole boys (network) in charge. Raines and Johnson made millions in bonuses when they were at Fannie Mae- Johnson and Raines salaries totaled $126 million each. Johnson was forced to resign from Obama's campaign because this FM/FM scandal was brought to light. Some of their Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's money is being used to help elect Obama. Also Democratic Secretary of Treasurer Paulson delayed informing McCain and gave Obama plenty of notice of this current financial crisis. Jim Johnson, who is currently Barack Obama's economic advisor, was not only CEO and Vice Chairman of Fannie Me, he was also a managing director at Lehman Brothers. In 2005 JOHN McCAIN cosponsored a bill to regulate Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae because of the financial dangers they presented to the taxpayers. Guess who blocked that bill! The Democrats! Raines has been accused by the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight of cooking Fannie Mae's books and that is why he was forced to step down.

Historyforgotten, you may need to spend less time on the computer and more time working on an education. Regardless of who you choose to support, allowed is the word you were looking for not "aloud".
Finding the lesser of two evils is what my plan is for my vote. Trying to wade through the garbage in the political ads takes a lot of time.
The best thing is this is America, I have been proud to be an American my entire life regardless of President, Clinton, Bush, Carter. I do not need Obama standing on his soapbox to make me proud.
Those of you who do need Obama to be proud, get real, the President does not make the country, the people do. All people, white, black, brown, male, female.
With the economy the way it is today, we ALL will see a tax increase regardless of how much we make. Congress will ensure that, not the President, regardless who that may be following the November election.
Everyone wants change, change the Congress.

MCCAINS NEW PLATFORM-----since he is too dumb to remember what his lobbyist friends tell him ,mccain just continuesly tell lies about obama---HE ACTUALLY THINKS WE ARE DUMBER THAN HE Is
the ---d---student the one your teacher passed to get him out of her class----now is the economoc expert---I REALLY THINK NOT.----DUMD IS DUMB

Do you ask yourself why, suddenly, Bush finds 700 BILLION (nearly a TRILLION) dollars of OUR money to bail out Wall Street greed and could never find that money to provide health care, fix US infrastructure, and provide jobs?
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Well give the Republicans credit, they did find a TRILLION dollars to fight a war that had no clear mission, no definition of what constitutes victory, and has accomplished nothing other than create chaos in the middle east.

Who cares if the domestic economy has gone to hell? At least HALIBURTON and other defense contractors have recorded RECORD PROFITS under Republican leadership and I feel good about that. They deserve it.

The best part is, according to McSame and Bush, no one ever has to pay for their war. However, we may all be speaking Manderin in this coutry in a few years if it continues.

adam,

"Liberals talk about tax cut for 95% of Americans. Out of 95%, 40% do not pay Taxes. Out of Remaining 55% none of them generating Jobs. Only 5% Obama wants to increase taxes are generating Jobs."

Well, the republicans that were supposed to generate jobs did a poor job of it! They outsourced our jobs and demand additional H1Bs are imported. Pay the taxes you owe now for your greedy schemes. Your performance has been a joke. If you were truly in the best position to create jobs, you would have created them. Step aside now.

Obama/Biden 08!

they used these same arguments to get us into this whole and keep their tax burden only growing at half of the rate (just as it has for the last 40 years) redistributing that burden up...because of trickle down economics

guess what trickle down economics has had no effect in the long run on either direction of our economy.

it's a falisy.

all trickle down economics does is make sure the priority is on the rich

and not where our engine is

what they don't tell you is that is the middle class has more money to spend that creates more need for business and more spending.

it works both ways liars.

Seah apparently agrees with Bush and McSame that Reaganomics works. They think that if the rich are given tax cuts, they gladly pass on their savings to the middle class by raising wages, creating jobs, etc......

If you have looked at recent economic history, let's say the price of gasoline, does anyone find that to be true?

Exxon, who has recorded ALL TIME RECORD PROFITS for the last FOUR YEARS IN A ROW, has been given their tax cuts and various exemptions from the Bush economic policy.

And has the general public seen any benefit? Sure, $4.00/gallon at the pump, greater profit for he oil company, and the claim that they need more rights to drill (though the oil companies have leases on a land mass the size of two states that they haven't even touched yet).

Savings to the rich means more profit for the rich. That's it. That's all it does. It creates a greater disparity between the wealthy and the middle class.

McSame economic policy is exactly that -it's the McSame as Geroge Bush. Forgive me if I have yet to understand why anyone thinks that this policy has worked or will work in the future. EVERY SINGLE INDICATOR SHOWS IT FAILED MISERABLY!

Though McSame thinks the "fundimentals of the economy are strong", anyone with half a brain knows better. That may leave out many of those supporting McCain and the Pagent Princess though.

What ever you do don't make Michelle mad! That women is about to blow a gasket.

Obama only gives ideas.

His tax cuts and economy plan is only on a Federal Level.

The same plan Germany used.

How many times have your heard Obama say the states or local governments should do that.

Your federal "income" tax might not go up or be reduced a small amount. But be sure You will pay in some way. shape or form, probably more than you are now. In local, state and federal taxes, fees and new sales tax, etc.

If Mr Obama plans on Raising wealthy peoples "income tax" Business and industry's, Common sense and reality you have to put in effect here, with the fact you know the cost will be passed on to the consumer to recoop. You the consumer will pay more for everything.

Many business and industry will fold, collaspe or move out of the country.

If you take a momnet to pull your head out of the Obama Koolaid Cloud, you will realize the reality of it all is just bull to get elected. His plan will not help the country but, destory free enterprise and the country.

Voting for Obama all you will receive is a Hope and Pray. Can that sustain you through life?

For all the people who think Obama´s plan isn´t a good one: Do you think Bush´s was a good one? Trickle down economics hasn´t worked. We´re in the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression! Would you rather see your tax dollars going towards reconstructing Iraq (a war that should never have been waged in the first place) or being spent here at home for things like health care and shoring up our social security and infrastructure providing jobs? We don´t need McSame, the chameleon. Do you ask yourself why, suddenly, Bush finds 700 BILLION (nearly a TRILLION) dollars of OUR money to bail out Wall Street greed and could never find that money to provide health care, fix US infrastructure, and provide jobs? Corporate socialism at its finest. Time to give back to the people. Obama/Biden 2008.

don't ask what Obama will do for you. Ask yourself what you can do for Obama. Money! Money! Money!

But people, make no mistake.

everybody will see tax increased under Obama. People who think not, you are just buch of unrealists.

why the rech people should be only patriatic. All the poor one of us should be patriatic too.

the proportion will be different though, that's fair.

Paying a lot of taxes is inevitable. If we are going to save this country, and have decent health care, there is no other way.

Obama doesn't tell you that though. But you can see he is very talented at taking money out of people's pocket. You realize that right? Half billion for the campaign, what a shameless circus under the bad economy. Is the economy really bad?

Anyway, he is telling us he only gets money out of small pockets. but in reality, majority of his money comes from big riches, including FreddyMac, FennyMae and ethanol industry etc. He only tells you majority of his donors are small donors. Which is same to McCain.

Now he tells you he will only tax rich. Don't forget, he gets money for everyone and he is good at it.

And we should be all happy paying taxes. It's a civil duty, dude.

He tells you

I made $342k last year. Two questions: How much of my money do you think the government should forcibly confiscate to give to you. Why do you think you deserve any of my money?

Sincerely,
A Small Business Owner.

Posted by: Concerned in OH | Sep 21, 2008 12:55:40 AM
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Zero-bama wants to tax the hell out of you, rich elitist. He considers it's your patriotic contribution to the society, feed the poor for the common good of our common welfare.

In fact, he really wants a great society in which everyone contributes at his ability and takes as much as his need. That way, there is no greed, no crime, no death penalty. Wait, did not a "great" philosopher said something like it? From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.

- That's from Karl Marx on the fundamentals of Communism.

Just a minute McCain said the fundamentals of the economy are strong .Probably he was thinking about the family Business.

Posted by: foreclosure | Sep 20, 2008 9:25:08 PM

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The last time that a President or a Presidential candidate in this country has brought such a pesmistic attitude into the general population, and fooled so many blind followers is, actually, now, by His Nothingness.

If you have nothing in your record, you scare your constituent to death.

I thought Americans are always optimistic to its future, even at the darkest moments. Yet, Zero-bama, being Nothingness, tells you there is nothing optimistic in this economy, and it is to sink to the bottom of the third world, if you do not vote for him. If you did vote for him, he promises to give you $1000 bucks, using his "reserve" from the sunk-to-bottom-economy.

Willem Van Oranje and the other usual suspects fully support Comrade Bidens's Patriotic Plan to justly redistribute the ill-gotten wealth of the Bourgeoisie to the noble Proletariat.

The sweat of the workers of the world must be protected from the evil, idle "fat cats" by such intelligentsia as Obama, and Biden, according to Willem.

dO -- you ask where is the money going to come from for Obama to keep his promises????
The Iraq War is currently costing 12 BILLION A MONTH.

He ends the war. You do the math.

Posted by: swing state bluesblog | Sep 20, 2008 9:14:48 PM
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Mr. swing,

Yeah.. That is what he promised you, wink wink. First, do you really think $12 billion will make a swing for his $1 trillion promise in 2009 and counting (just like he promised you to build 1 million hybrid plug-ins in the NEXT 10 YEARS to solve your long-term foreign oil dependency; currently, there are more than 250 million vehicles on the road)?

Secondly, in case, His Nothingness forgot to inform you blind followers, that $12 billion per month is BORROWED money, not even counted as Federal deficit, which His Nothingness voted for it. Ask him why did he vote for that $12 billion dollars? Just because he will tell you now he will stop spending it? Smart you-know-what.

Well, this white, middle class, Republican chooses a better government, with Obama. To whine about the color or sex of a politician, is so old. Come into the present, and look to the future. Vote for a Free America. Those voting McCain, are not voting for him, they are voting for his Far Right lobbiests. McCain has LOST TOUCH, with the middle Republicans.

Nick, as a Republican, I understand investing in America, is worth it. Vote Independant if you must, but a Far Right Lobbiest vote, is like voting for Non-America. McCains 'quick buck' thinking, has already been used by lobbiests for more than 20 years, and has only cause economic harm, for a long run. McCain is letting his Tycoon ties to Bush, smear his name. Invest in America, vote Obama and Biden.

I think,

we should pay 40 % tax if we make less than 125,000.

we should pay 60 % tax if we make more than 125,000.

health insurance should be free for us making less than 125,000. those of us who make more than that can buy good health insurance by themselves.

housing should be all most to nothing.

education should be free, all levels.

child care should be provided by the goverment.

So, doesn't any one want to be my vice?

Who's the real racist? The 40% of whites who won't vote for a black man or the 98% of blacks who won't vote for a white man?

Obama's socialist agenda will doom us. The government can't take care of everyone who is helpless in this country. We are spending more on entitlement programs than we can afford and we'll be bankrupt and the Chinese will turn in their US treasury notes and our dollars will be like monopoly money.

I am suggesting changing the colors of the electoral map .From Red and Blue, to Black and White. Also I suggest Spanish language to be taught to kinder gardens with American / English like second choice. Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez like guests of Honor at the day when Obama sworn President.
That is no bad idea, is far better from have another 4 years of Bush administration with the puppet of the far right McCain as President .And then after he pass away have the Pit-bull with lipstick bombing Russia .
Why McCain can’t put together two sentences and Sarah Plain give only scripted interviews? That indicates mental constipation and final state of plain idiocy.
I don’t have any problem in characterizing McCain .He is a Republican! According to his own campaign, Republicans are corrupt and incompetent.
Obviously he has inside information!
OBAMA is Black but is your last hope!

Who is Obama fooling??? Taxing the 5% will only hurt job creation for the rest of us. When companies are taxed more, who do you think they will pass the cost to? DUH. That's liberal democrat economics for you.

-DON’T FOOL YOUR SELF, RICH PEOPLE DOESN’T HAVE A COUNTRY.
THEY JUST HAVE MONEY AND PASSPORT!
Posted by: foreclosure | Sep 21, 2008 3:42:03 AM-

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