Out West, Obama Faces Gun Battle

If you read the constitution,it says nothing about hunting or sporting.The second ammendment is there for regular people to protect themselves from government(abolish it if needed-second paragraph in the declaration of independence).That tells us AR's,AK's,ect....are much needed incase of an emergency.I could go on for a couple hours but I type slow and mispell words.

In Heller v. DC there was a petition signed by politicians which urged the justices to rule that the 2nd A was an individual right. There was also another one which countered that. Guess which one Obama signed?

John McCain urged the justices to rule for individual right. As a legal gun-owner, this is not rocket science. Actions speak louder than words!

Obama is a good man but he is no friend of gun-owners.

So if he says I can't, I won't, I'm not...you won't believe him, because hey, he must be lying. And if he says 'and even if I wanted to, I couldn't because Congress would stop me', then that must mean that he IS going to. Okay. I see that now. He's lying, and whomever you elect to Congress, if they say they'll keep him from doing that, they must be lying, too.

I'm not going to rob your house tonight, incidentally. I have no plans to kick in your door and set fire to your couch. I won't steal your car. And even if I wanted to, the cops driving around would keep me from doing it.

Silly, right?

This is why gun people and non-gun people have so much trouble talking. Even the words mean different things.

Howdy from Illinois,

If Mr. Obama is for gun ownership, then why pray tell is Illinois still without CCW? There are 2 states without CCW-Wisconsin & Illinois! Mr Obama has not introduced any bills in the senate. He has no record, other than to march-step with Democrats gun grabbing schemes.

On the other hand, Governor Palin has eliminated waste in government in Alaska. Selling the Jet on E-bay-Good show. Her words to the Alaska Senate was "I'm here to provide Adult Supervision for you!" Good show Madam Governor, You have my vote. Please start with my 2 Senators

To Scary Very Scary,

I think I would be crapping in my pants, if I thought I could buffalo the USA into anything that Mrs. Palin chaired. She is a stand up Lady, who gets things done, not like the wishy-washy tuck your tail and run Obama.

I wonder why no one seems to notice that Obama seems to always talk about sportsmen and guns together? I don't have to be a sportsman to own a or need a gun. To infer that the 2nd amendment has hunting/sport in mind is to not understand what the bill of rights and constitution are all about

Amy T. said:
"Anyone who has ever been held up at gunpoint understands why gun control is essential in our nation.

Anyone who has ever lost a child to a stray bullet in their neighborhood understands why gun control is essential in our nation.

Anyone who has buried a teacher, killed in a school shooting, understands why gun control is essential in our nation.

Anyone who has read a news story of a child killed by a sibling, because they got their hands on a parent's improperly stored firearm, understands why gun control is essential in our nation.

AND, anyone who is a hunter, sportsman, skeet shooter, soldier, or gun collector that CARES about the safety of their fellow countrymen, women, and children, should understand why gun control is essential in our nation.

This is not a black and white issue...it is time for ALL Americans to demand safe and logical consensus, an agreeable, compromised middle-ground from their elected officials on this issue of our Right to Bear Arms."
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Anyone who's done or read peer-reviewed research into the effectiveness of gun-control and the benefits of gun-ownership understands the false premise of outlawing a defensive tool to inhibit the behavior of outlaws.

Such a person also recognizes the idiocy of banning categories of firearms deemed "especially dangerous" when there is a proven substitution effect among criminals nullifying any theoretical benefit.

Anyone who applies logic to their world recognizes that a gun-ban is useless in a country with HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of guns in circulation which is not a police state with a collectivist national philosophy and homogeneous cultural makeup sufficient to facilitate willing and complete confiscation even from previously law-abiding citizens.

Anyone who's experienced the scenarios described by Amy T. in a jurisdiction such as Chicago or DC or NYC, and actually has knowledge of gun laws where they live, UNDERSTANDS THAT GUN CONTROL IS WORTHLESS!

This is not a black and white issue... it's a right and wrong issue, an informed and ignorant issue, a rational and irrational issue, a policy and rhetoric issue, a truth and lies issue, a rights and repression issue, a self-defense and surrender issue, a life and death issue.

The National Rifle Association has listed and documented the anti-gun people who founded the American Hunters and Shooters Association. This organization IS a front for the gun grabbers. If the reporter would contact NRA they can supply him with the names and histories of the individuals involved. For a highroll financier of OBAMA check out GEORGE SOROS, a Hungarian gentleman, who has funneled perhaps 50 million dollars into American anti-gun organizations.
He uses his vast wealth, see the currency collapses in South East Asia which he profited off of, to destroy our 2nd Amendment rights.

Here is the kicker, ready? He said if you have a RIFLE, SHOTGUN, GUN in your house, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT AWAY. He never mentioned HANDGUN, and for a reason. He has been quoted in the last couple years as saying (IF IT WAS UP TO ME I WOULD "BAN" ALL FIREARMS EXCEPT FOR A PUMP SHOTGUN! Now wake up everybody, this guy is a MAJOR DANGER! VERY VERY SCARY!

The writer of this article is surprised that people are not fooled by obama's "support" for the 2nd amendment?

He is supported by Ray Schoenke, who helms the American Hunters and Shooters Association. It's board members consist of gun banners from several gun ban lobbying groups.

The writer supposedly follows politics, but does not mention that obama was on the board of the joyce foundation, that funds groups that push for laws banning guns.

He does not seem to be familiar with obama's voting record, supporting every gun ban bill. He was in full support of DC's gun ban. Being from Chicago, he supports all gun bans affecting law abiding citizens, but has not supported any bills on enhanced penalties for armed gang members!

When teaching law, obama said the 2nd amendment refers to militias such as government forces like the national guard, and does not protect the rights of the citizens, like the rest of the amendments are intended to do.

So where in obama's career has he shown support for the 2nd amendment? His record shows constant attempts at infringing on citizen's rights, only his teleprompter says otherwise.

Why is the media showing this bias for obama?

Do we want more corrupt chicago politics?

I will be voting against osama biden laden

First off, I'm not all that certain that Mr. Tapper should be reporting on this subject given that he used to be the spokesman for the Brady Campaign, formerly known as Handgun Control,
INC. I'm not sure that he can be
objective about the issue.

Secondly, I don't trust Obama's bona
fides on the gun issue and I
definitely don't trust Biden's given
that he's never seen a gun
confiscation bill that he didn't
absolutely love.

Here's the thing that the gun
grabbers miss. Those of us who own
guns, especially those that are
military pattern weapons, tend to
be law abiding. Demanding that we
be disarmed because we can't be
trusted is tantamount to calling us
all criminals. I'm not going to vote
for somebody who's starting position
is that.

I might have given Obama some
consideration until he chose Biden
as his running mate. That told me
all that I need to know.

To all those pro-gun control folks posting on this thread: You make a lot of references to other countries that have less gun crime. Sure, they might have less gun crime, but they have much, much more government-perpetrated crimes than the US. Many people are murdered by their own governments EACH DAY because they don't have the means to defend themselves.

In the US, crime is perpetrated mostly by gangsters, gangster wannabes, and other lowlifes. In the "other" countries with "less gun crime", crime is perpertrated by the government.

So, I rather keep my freedom rather than relying upon some socialist/egalitarian garbage to "defend" me.

Most gun owners in the US are law abiding citizens and the most friendliest and kindest people you will meet. Those people who commit crimes with guns are not gun owners. They are simply criminals, using guns as an easy way out.

Don't try to distort history, gun-banners. You all know the truth. Just go research, how many people have been jailed, tortured, and killed by their own oppressive governments in the last 100 years alone?

Said by ...: "No one wants to take away your guns. No One! If you are a law abiding citizen so why the fight...?"

Really?!?!? Where have you been lately:

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., on CBS "60 Minutes": "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them -- Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in -- I would have done it."

Sounds like she wants to take my firearms away from me.

Actually, mec .. The vote was 9-0 that the Second Amendment protects a natural individual right that pre-exists the Constitution. It was 5-4 that said the government cannot limit that right to military service. Go figure?

Well now there is a comment I love to see "Quit frankly the thought of Ms. Palin sitting across the table from the likes of a Mahmoud Ahmadinejad chills me to the bone."

Now go get yourself a nice warm coat because your going to need it.

Obama has said that people should not be permitted to own guns. He supported the Chicago gun ban, he supported the D.C. gun ban. Now he wants us to believe that he's changed his mind? When Obama says he supports the Second Amendment he's lying.

I get a kick out of the pro-Obama astroturfing that is going on here. Their posts are like T Ball to the majority of posters here.

Heller 5-4, that's all there is to it. No way Obama is going to appoint someone who won't make that 4-5, or 3-6.

"Ms. Palin could in deed become the President Of The United States
Scary Very Scary" Think of how we feel about three years out of the Illinois State Senate Obama, and he will take over from day one. This is a pretty poor argument for you. You have to believe it before you hear it in order to buy it.

Osama! Obama! He'll make Big Gov yo' Momma! Oh, Thank Heaven, for my AK-47!

Obama says he would not have appointed Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court but would have appointed all of the leftist jurists who voted that the Second Amendment was a collective right rather than an individual one.
If Obama has his way, the next court will make the Second Amendment a dead letter.
Joe Biden is an anti-gun activist. He was a major supporter of the Clinton Anti-Gun agenda and did his very best (which is never very good) to keep Clarence Thomas off the Court.

The "American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA)" is a fake organization. It is actually led by gun control advocates who just happen themselves to do some occasional hunting now and then. It was created by Democrats as a cynical attempt to lie about being pro-gun.

Ray Schoenke has personally donated money to Handgun Control, Inc. and to the Brady Campaign.

Jon Rosenthal founded Stop Handgun Violence in Massachusetts. When this was pointed out, Rosenthal was forced to resign from AHSA.

"gun control" disarms innocent Americans...this allows the criminals to rampage. To lower crime, stop committing treason against the oath of office, and cease the infringements against our right to keep and bear arms. Then, arrest, prosecute and PUNISH the criminals. Liberals are hysterical and confused about the distinction between guilt and innocence.... unborn babies are innocent. People who criminally fire guns are not innocent. Abort the criminals, not the babies, problem solved. (ps: traitors who write & vote for gun control are criminals!!)