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McCain:It's OVER!!!!!

Honestly,

McCain, stop with this blame game thing. You yourself also accused Obama of "politicising" the bailout. WHO made a big show of charging into Washington to save the day (he was in such a hurry he had to cancel Letterman, but had time to interview with Couric and only left the next morning)? Obama said that since neither one of them were on the relevant committees, they might be doing more harm then good.

It certainly shows from how the bill exploded even when McCain was there to "save" the day. He couldn't even get any members of his Arizona delegation to support the bill-the Illinois delegation, had 9 out of the nineteen supporting the bill.

Stop saying Obama couldn't be bothered about it. He also had said that if he's informed that's he needed there, he'd fly back immediately. McCain keeps on pulling so many stunts and making a big show of things-but in reality, he isn't doing much. People said he didn't contribute anything at the WH meeting and declined to take a stand when asked.

He was waving the soldier's bracelet at every campaign stop, while Obama has been quietly wearing his-you can check his previous speeches.

The smallest dogs bark the loudest, I guess.

Gargoyle,

Do you really want to make excuses? Blame the refs for losing huh? Grow up!

Do you want a list of Republican corruption in the past decade? Let me know and I'll give them to you.

The Republicans have had the majority in Congress since January 3, 1995. They had control of it all until January 3, 2007. That's twelve years!!!! Bush took office on January 20, 2001.

Hey don't worry, at least you got the victory with gay marriage.

It's strange how Obama, Pelosi, Biden and other Dems receive political cover from the "mainstream media" yet Republicans never do. There's nothing at all mainstream about the media this election year. They've clearly put the fix in for Obama.

"Someone else tried to stop it in 2005 and you will never guess who...John McCain ...LOL!!! He co-sponsored a bill called "The Housing Enterprise Regulatory Act of 2005" (google it please www.govtrack.us Bill S-190). The bill would regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac yet once again, the Democrats blocked it"

Yes please google and see how the Republican chaired committee kept in committee and how it was a dead bill by the time McCain decided to cosponsor it in May of 2006.

"Obama recieved FOUR-TIMES more money from Fannie Mae per year than any other senator over the last 20 years"

Obama received about $120K in donations from Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac over his 12 year career.

He was # 2 on that list for the last 10 years. So how could he get 4 times as much as any other Senator?

Also McCain thru joint fundraising has taken in $189K this year alone from 8 Fannie Mae bigwigs. Obama has taken in $16K.

And one last thing, Rick Davis's firm has taken twice as much money from Fannie Mae this year alone as Obama has received from employees over a 12 year public career.

Yes, Obama agrees that 'the fundamental of economy is strong'.

McCain is right, and he said earlier than Obama did.

Obama just follow McCain's foot step.

We can go through this crisis, which will prove that the fundamentals of our economy is strong.

I don't see what you're seeing Jake.

McCain is right. We do have a strong economy, it's just facing tough times. Down 7%? We'll rebound 4%.

It's like Michael Phelps getting sick. boo hoo.

Obama knew what McCain meant.

McCain Palin 2008

And you'll be posting about out-of-context quoting by Charlie Gibson, Katie Couric, et al when?

Come with me here and let us take a trip through time...

Ok, Jimmy Carter and the democrats passed the Sub-Prime Mortgage loans in the 70's to help low-income familys get houses. It was called the (CRA) Community Reinvestment Act (google it) which wasn't a bad idea if done right. It helped alittle but in 1995 Bill Clinton expanded the CRA by placing more requirements on it that forced banks to offer $1 Trillion in "Sub-Prime" loans or face penalties (Goverment Sponsored Security).

Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae would guarantee mortgages then sale that debt to Banks and investors. So, the more mortgages issued the more money Fannie Mae makes. They would tell the banks to issue the "guaranteed" loans with 'no money down' 'no credit' or even 'bad credit', as long as they paid the interest.
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So, home owners started to grow and so did the price of housing. BIG PROBLEM!! Between 2004-2005 interest rates shot up and so did gas prices so paychecks got squeezed. Borrowers stopped paying so banks stopped lending and the sub-prime market collapsed in 2007. Foreclosures piled up, no buyers, only sellers. Home prices started falling and even more borrowers stopped paying and Fannie Mae "guarantees' became worthless because they kept over stating their assests.

Banks collapsed due to worthless Government Sponsored Securities issued by Fannie Mae. So, here we are today....
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Why is the Community Reinvestment Act to Blame? Before CRA expansion home prices increase with inflation but, after the CRA, home prices became unhinged from inflation. CRA caused home prices to rise too fast which caused this 'bubble' everyone was talking about.

Did this have to happen? NO! Someone tried to stop it in 2003 and you will never guess who....The Bush Administration wanted "...regulatory overhaul of the housing finance industry which would create a new agency withen the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are two largest players in the mortgage lending industry." But, the Democrats stopped it, siting "...it would diminish their ability to finance loans for lower-income families."

Someone else tried to stop it in 2005 and you will never guess who...John McCain ...LOL!!! He co-sponsored a bill called "The Housing Enterprise Regulatory Act of 2005" (google it please www.govtrack.us Bill S-190). The bill would regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac yet once again, the Democrats blocked it. It came back in 2007 but still no luck, because Fannie Mae had Friends in the Senate....

Chriss Dodd (D-CT) and Barack Obama (D-IL) covered Fannie Mae's backside and you will never believe who Obama selected to help choose his VP running mate, Jim Johnson - [CEO of Fannie Mae (1991-1998) etc...] who quit Obama's campign in June 2008 after he came under-fire. And you will never guess who Obama gets economic advice from, Franklin Raines - [Carter Administration (1977-1979 when CRA was first enacted) Vice Chairman Fannie Mae (1991-1996 when CRA was first expanded) CEO of Fannie Mae (1999-2004)] who resigned due to accounting irregularities.

Obama recieved FOUR-TIMES more money from Fannie Mae per year than any other senator over the last 20 years (49 Times less than John McCain). And you will never guess who worked at a law firm (Miner, Barnhill & Galland) that sued banks for not issueing enough Sub-Prime loans....Yes, Barack Obama.

"You're blaming King and JFK being killed for the Chicago riots at the Dem convention?"

I'm telling you to keep your head down, Ryan. You are Mickey Mouse in the Sorceror's Apprentice. You really know nothing about the forces you are invoking. Neither did the Boomers in the 60s.

So when will ABC get around to the RNC ad attacking Obama and Democrats for passing the bail out plan while their leaders said they were trying to pass it? Funny how it was produced before the vote was taken.

but wait...... if you order today:

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was working aggressively behind the scenes to defeat the Wall Street rescue plan minutes before he himself released a public statement in support of the package, reported on Tuesday.

Gingrich was whipping up votes for the opposition, apparently without the knowledge of the current GOP leader, John Boehner, who was responsible for recruiting enough support from his caucus to help ensure the bill's passage. Ultimately, the GOP was only able to rally roughly a third of its members.

"Newt Gingrich," "I am told reliably by leading Republicans who are close to him, he was whipping against this up until the last minute, when he issued that face-saving statement. Newt Gingrich was telling people in the strongest possible language that this was a terrible deal, not only that it was a terrible deal, it was a disaster, it was the end of democracy as we know, it was socialism -- and then at the last minute [he] comes out with a statement when the vote is already in place."

Indeed, shortly before the bill's failure, Gingrich "reluctantly" came out in favor of its passage: "Therefore, while I am discouraged at the final collapse of the Bush Administration, and frustrated by the Democrats' passion for the taxpayer's money, I would reluctantly and sadly vote for the bailout were I still in office."

Mission Accomplished

more 'Country First'... fraud

"Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and his top aides took credit for building a winning bailout coalition – hours before the vote failed and stocks tanked.

Shortly before the vote, McCain had bragged about his involvement and mocked Sen. Barack Obama for staying on the sidelines.

“I’ve never been afraid of stepping in to solve problems for the American people, and I’m not going to stop now,” McCain told a rally in Columbus, Ohio. “Sen. Obama took a very different approach to the crisis our country faced. At first he didn’t want to get involved. Then he was monitoring the situation.”
McCain, grinning, flashed a sarcastic thumbs up.

“That’s not leadership. That’s watching from the sidelines,” he added to cheers and applause.

John McCain, a few hours later when the bailout failed:

“Sen. Obama and his allies in Congress infused unnecessary partisanship into the process. Now is not the time to fix the blame. It’s time to fix the problem,” McCain said in a hastily called statement to the press here today."

Mission Accomplished

Country First? I think not....

..."The Republican National Committee’s new advertisement critical of the the Wall Street “bailout” ...
was produced and sent to television stations in key states... before ...the package failed, officials at two stations said.

While the Republican Leadership was shaking hands and allegedly rallying their troops to vote for the plan, they were already cutting ads to bash the Democrats.
This is why only Republicans in safe seats and leadership positions voted for it. Yesterday, they went out and blamed Pelosi for injecting partisanship into the process, causing the bill to fail, when actually they wanted it to pass so they could… use it against the Democrats.
And they were not even hiding it- this was what many online had openly said they should do, and the commercials were ready to bash the Democrats for passing the plan.

Except the plan failed. And the Republicans are caught red-handed, and will pay the price should things melt down. Not that half the GOP base or the Republican Study Group care- half of them probably think an economic disaster is an alternate route to the Rapture.

The only thing you can count on in politics these days is the sure-fire bet that when the chips are down, the Republicans always, always always put themselves first. These guys need a solid two decades in the minority."

Mission Accomplished

"ryan, you are being deliberately misleading. Obama is, according to independent organizations that keep track of the money, the second-highest (or maybe it was third?) recipient of Fannie and Freddie money in Congress, even though he's only been there a few years"

Who's misleading?

The McCain campaign thru joint fundraising has taken in $189,000 from Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae this year alone.

Obama campaign has taken in $16K this year and throughout Obama's entire time in public service has gotten about $120K in donations.

Rick Davis was bought & paid for his access to McCain. His firm got $15K a month this year. And He collected over $2,000,000 from them from 2001 to 2006.

That went in his and his company's POCKETS. Not to the campaign but directly funding his life.

And that says nothing about the millions Charlie Black made lobbying for them or the 24 other McCain staffers who lobbied or worked for them.

I wanted to point out two AP stories that deal with a proposal to raise the FDIC limit. The first story says that Sen. Barack Obama supports such a proposal. That is, frankly, shocking, since the idea was actually proposed by House Republican negotiators on Saturday evening, but was strongly rejected by Senate Democrats. Rep. Chris Shays has introduced this proposal as legislation (H.R. 7235). The second AP story mentions the House GOP support for this proposal.

Why is Sen. Obama embracing a proposal his colleagues rejected? Why did Senate Democrats reject the proposal initially? Have they all changed their minds, or is Sen. Obama breaking with his colleagues? Interesting questions …

ryan, you are being deliberately misleading. Obama is, according to independent organizations that keep track of the money, the second-highest (or maybe it was third?) recipient of Fannie and Freddie money in Congress, even though he's only been there a few years and the number one fellow, our pal Chris Dodd, has been taking Fannie/Freddie money for as long as there has been Fannie/Freddie money to be taken. PUlling out the current year, when most of his disgraced F/F cronies have been working on his campaign and he's been actively trying to avoid the APPEARANCE of taking money from folks he is simultaneously pretending to be against (like having lobbyists' wives contribute but not the lobbyists themselves), is the height of hypocrisy.

Those same independent groups credit McCain with being far down the list of recipients despite his years in Congress-- not even in the top 50, as I recall, and definitely not in the top 25. And stop trying to pull that "Rick Davis's firm" crap -- Davis does not lobby or take money from lobbying and has not collected money from the company this year at all. So that fact that former colleagues may have taken money to lobby on behalf of Fannie/Freddie is completely unrelated to the issue at hand. AFter all, we're not supposed to be concerned about Biden's brother and son being ACTIVE lobbyists for banking/credit card firms. Let's be consistent and honest in our criticism.

So, you know, we’re getting stampeded here to vote for something that doesn’t help homeowners, that doesn’t do anything about foreclosures, that doesn’t help those people who have been in bankruptcy and are looking for a way out. As a matter of fact, it made sure they can’t get out. So, who’s this for? It’s for speculators. It’s to play a game that provides some temporary help in the market, and, you know, you might see an uptick today if this passes the House. On the other hand, if it doesn’t, we need to be ready to find a way for Wall Street to address its problems without having to tap the increasingly diminishing resources of the federal taxpayers.

That's easy, Ryan: voter fraud. An official indicted for corruption goes to jail. A kid killed in a riot goes to the morgue."

Racist republicans challenging the voting rights of minorities do so at their own peril.

I can't believe you actually blame Democrats for conditions the Republicans are actively fostering.

"You don't remember the cities on fire. Some of us do."

So the riots during the 60's were over voter fraud?

Not police brutality against minorities.

Not the assasination of Dr. King.

But voter fraud?

"Take some advice seriously. If the worst happens, sit down. As long as the SNCC was non-violent, they were winning. As soon as Abbie Hoffman convinced ten people to convince 100 people in 1000 people to throw rocks, heads rolled and Nixon was elected then reelected. King was killed. Bobby was killed. It wasn't all flower power and music. It was murder."

You're blaming King and JFK being killed for the Chicago riots at the Dem convention?

So, you know, we’re getting stampeded here to vote for something that doesn’t help homeowners, that doesn’t do anything about foreclosures, that doesn’t help those people who have been in bankruptcy and are looking for a way out. As a matter of fact, it made sure they can’t get out. So, who’s this for? It’s for speculators. It’s to play a game that provides some temporary help in the market, and, you know, you might see an uptick today if this passes the House. On the other hand, if it doesn’t, we need to be ready to find a way for Wall Street to address its problems without having to tap the increasingly diminishing resources of the federal taxpayers.

If McCain had shown good judgment when picking a VP, if he had not picked a mess of lobbyists to run his campaign, if he wasn't so gungho to start wars and if he was smart, I may have voted for him.

I've voted for Republicans (not for President, but for other offices). I just think McCain is dumb. I mean, not as much of dumb as Bush, but nowhere near the sharpest tool in the shed.

The man sees so focused on earmark reform, he has ignored the idea of real budget reform. Earmarks make up less than a percent of our budget. McCain could have saved far more money if he had redirected his energy from focusing on earmarks and put it on looking at the budget as a whole. But that's his focus. That's his niche. The big picture is outside of his purview.

Obama may have less experience, but the man has shown excellent judgment. I do not worry about an Obama administration. I know that his economic advisers will be top notch. I know that his foreign policy adviser will not be blinded by ideology and will be a top notch negotiator. I know that the people he appoints will be smart people who aren't lobbyists.

That's easy, Ryan: voter fraud. An official indicted for corruption goes to jail. A kid killed in a riot goes to the morgue.

You don't remember the cities on fire. Some of us do.

Take some advice seriously. If the worst happens, sit down. As long as the SNCC was non-violent, they were winning. As soon as Abbie Hoffman convinced ten people to convince 100 people in 1000 people to throw rocks, heads rolled and Nixon was elected then reelected. King was killed. Bobby was killed. It wasn't all flower power and music. It was murder.

Sit down. Protest is not about getting in their faces. It is about getting in their way. It isn't likely in my opinion but it is possible and the voter fraud is enough to light the match.

What Obama is telling you is wrong, dangerous and self-serving. DON'T get in their faces. Only an self-obsessed fool would tell you to do that. We pay a high price for that as Democrats, but
$1.2 trillion wasn't enough, I guess.

"A lack of faith in the electoral process signals an end of democracy as we know it."

So why are Republicans doing everything they can to undermine the faith in the election because they are losing?

"The vote must be sacrosanct."

Its a great ideal but the vote has been sullied in recent years with problems with touchscreen voting and people having their right to vote interfered with by Republican caging efforts.

"Widespread voter fraud on a national scale perpetrated by a well funded organization isn't just a crime, it's treason"

A few thousand fraudlent registrations with no proof that anyone actually voted?

You really consider that worse than a dozen Congressmen selling favors and contracts to the highest bidder?

Let me ask you this Woody,

Do you consider it more important for people to be able to exercise their right to vote as easily as possible or do you think restrictions on the voters should be in place to make sure voter fraud does not occur?

"It seems that there are mainly 2 reasons to vote for Barry; He's not white and he's not Republican."
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Au contraire: behind the corporate curtain, he's both -- and mob-enhanced to boot.

"RealClearPolitics: Obama 301, McCain 237'

It seems that there are mainly 2 reasons to vote for Barry; He's not white and he's not Republican.

Well, yay, our possible next president thinks the economy is "fundamentally weak" I guess.

Yay, panic, yay, doom! Guess we will never get out of it without a helping hand always knocking on the door asking for another form.

"Obama seems to have 60% of the Jewish vote according to polls. Kerry polled at around 69% right before his election."
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Yeah. Democratic saboteur Kerry was a GREAT president hahaha.

Oh this is even better:

Florida Polls:

PPP - McCain 46, Obama 49
FOX News/Rasmussen - McCain 47, Obama 47

Florida going to Obama is game-over territory. If Obama simply holds on to all the states he's leaning on right now and adds Florida, he's over 270. WI, MN, NC, VA, NH, MO and NV could all go for McCain and Obama would still win.

Electoral Vote Predictions (no toss-ups):

RealClearPolitics: Obama 301, McCain 237

Ouch.

johnTX

your absolutely right on Obama's support for Israel ..... Mr. Amnesia and his cultural references have some other agenda.

Mission Accomplished

"So what's the worse crime len?

Submitting fraudulent voter registration forms or taking bribes as a public official?"

The worse crime in my opinion is voter fraud in a landslide. We already have legalized bribery in the form of lobbying and campaign contributions. The ones who really flaunt it and break the rules eventually get caught and prosecuted.

A lack of faith in the electoral process signals an end of democracy as we know it. The vote must be sacrosanct. Widespread voter fraud on a national scale perpetrated by a well funded organization isn't just a crime, it's treason. The people who commit such crimes are domestic enemies of the constitution, in my opinion.

Wait, what's wrong with Obama's position on Israel?

There are 500 Rabbis endorsing him (they even have a website, rabiesforobama).

Then there's Rabbi Menachem Frohman, a founder of the Zionist settler movement in the West Bank settlement of Tekoa who not only endorsed Obama, but said he was the only hope for peace in the middle east.

Obama seems to have 60% of the Jewish vote according to polls. Kerry polled at around 69% right before his election.

Republicans are embarking on another divide the nation through race and conquer tactic:
they have distributed millions of cd's touting the scaremongering DVD "Obsession" that the Clarion Fund (McCain supporter) paid for distribution to dozens of newspapers across the country. Instances of anti-muslim violent acts have been reported.

Now they want to jump on ACORN, and push it using the race card. What about the predatory lenders that "steered" consumers into these bad sub-prime loans?

"It looks like we still have two separate and very unequal financial systems. One for the rich and one for the poor. One for whites, and one for everyone else. The banks created this situation when they abandoned our neighborhoods and opened the door for the loan sharks. Now we’re finding that these same banks are profiting from us through their financing or even ownership of these predatory lenders,” said ACORN National President Maude Hurd. “We know that many of the people who got subprime loans could have qualified for a lower cost mortgage, but instead they were pushed into a higher cost loan because the mortgage company saw an opportunity to make more money.”

When I drive through the suburbs, I see jplenty of foreclosed homes (350K and up) bought by folks who couldn't afford them, and those folks aren't minorities. Plus you have the flip and get rich crowd that flipped out when housing prices tanked.
And let's not forget the derivative and Credit swap instruments created on mortagages that are now worthless ( trillions of dollars worth). Can't blame that mess on minorities,
Why must republicans resort to race-baiting, divisive measures to win an election? That is just evil.

it was the Republicans
who started the ongoing Iraq war for oil.
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With the servile collusion of the hijacked Democrats and, ahem, the New York Times.

"Look at the crowd Obama has in Nevada.

Another red state going BLUE

Posted by: Vanessa
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What rock concert preceeded his speech?"

Barry has attack ad after attack ad playing on TV and Radio Nevada. I think in one he even blames McCain for causing Black Holes. McCain had better start responding.

Belle Starr

you are correct, it was the Republicans
who started the ongoing Iraq war for oil.

Mission Accomplished

"the party of uber patriots who like to start wars for oil.... "
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It's that fraud Obama, nominee of the hijacked Democrats, who's so hot to escalate in Afghanistan/Pakistan.

October is going to be one wild ride. I know all the 527's have been holding back as have both campaigns.

I'm sure we'll hear about the S&L crisis McCain was in the middle of. The McCain camp might bring out Biden's credit card ties (though he is the VP candidate so I'm not sure anyone will care).

The thing is, if this economic crisis gets worse, those attacks aren't going to mean much. No one will care. They'll just want someone they think can fix this mess.

Look at the crowd Obama has in Nevada.

Another red state going BLUE

Posted by: Vanessa
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What rock concert preceeded his speech?

"Who thinks there will be some major disaster/event to cause a distraction away from the debate on Thursday or Friday ... ?"
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Well, THAT's already happened. But it was Pelosi's saying the House would be back on Thursday, no?

Probably because the hijacked "Democrats" would REALLY prefer it if nobody gets around to discussing the Biden dynasty's involvement with the credit-card companies ...

"For voter fraud, Ryan? It isn't simply the criminality, it is THE crime"

So what's the worse crime len?

Submitting fraudulent voter registration forms or taking bribes as a public official?

"You are not stupid. You know full well the results of having to challenge votes all over the country in November."

I am fully aware of the Republicans henious plan to try and deny people their right to vote.

I can't believe that you admit it.

"Who thinks there will be some major disaster/event to cause a distraction away from the debate on Thursday or Friday by the McCain camp?"

$5 on Steve Schmidt pulling the fire alarm.

ryan sez: "So are a dozen members of the Republican party that served in the Senate or House to say nothing of the score of aides also under indictment."

For voter fraud, Ryan? It isn't simply the criminality, it is THE crime. You are not stupid. You know full well the results of having to challenge votes all over the country in November.

If you want chaos, that can do it. If chaos erupts into violence given all of the bad feelings pumping into this election, we get marshall law. Then a suspended election. Bush stays where he is at. People get arrested. Habeus corpus gets suspended. The US Army is already preparing and the ability to suspend posse commitatus is already on the books.

See 1968. It can turn very bad. Will it? I don't know but it is well within the possible outcomes of this process if we keep playing mau mau with each other.

Wake up, fellow, and quit trying to play apples and oranges for the sake of politics. There are worse things than recession, and you and yours are marching us straight toward them.

"obama : $16,000
mccain: $169,000

2008 contributions from fannie/freddie folks."

And that doesn't include the $250,000 Rick Davis's firm pulled in.

So Palin's debate is on Thursday.

Who thinks there will be some major disaster/event to cause a distraction away from the debate on Thursday or Friday by the McCain camp?

"Rep. Frank says that there is absolutely no "earmark" for Acorn in this legislation."

There never was.

There was a proposed 20% of the profits (if any) should go to the National Housing Trust Fund.

But of course the right wing lies.

Obama can give a tax cut to 95% of Americans....funny thing is, 62% of Americans actually pay taxes...that's called redistribution of wealth!

"ACTUAL Democrats don't have to be in lockstep with Republican-lite"

So instead ACTUAL Democrats are in lock step with full throated Republican FoxNews?

ROFLMAO!

Look at the crowd Obama has in Nevada.

Another red state going BLUE

"Avid defenses of FoxNews while claiming to be a Democrat strains credulity."
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ACTUAL Democrats don't have to be in lockstep with Republican-lite Chicago mobsters OR with the ghastly Pelosi ... and indeed, yesterday's House vote suggests that the hijacked "Democrats" are unravelling or HAVE unravelled.

What is all this nonsense about Acorn? CBS says this viral stuff is "organically and institutionally driven." In other words, the Republicans have embarked on another distract and distort mission.

Rep. Frank says that there is absolutely no "earmark" for Acorn in this legislation.

"Ryan you should get your facts, inkind giving and knowledge of accounting straight. My family has five foundations that we give under as well as several business"

In kind contributions counts against donation limits.

So are you saying your family uses foundations & businesses to avoid campaign finance laws?

In other news:

Rasmussen Tracking National Poll
Obama 51%, McCain 45%

Poor McCain.

My family total contributions to DNC last year me: $15,000

My mother $58,000

This year and forever $0"

You just said that you and your family stopped giving money in June 2008 and campaign contributions are to the DNC is limited to $20,000 per year.

You should keep your lies straight.

"FoxNews has gotten better, while most MSNBC and CNN programs are so far into campaigning for Obama that it's embarrassing to watch. "

Avid defenses of FoxNews while claiming to be a Democrat strains credulity.

Not that you guys had credibility but its always funny to see you claims to be Democrats while shoveling the latest right wing talking point.

The new McCain ad is called Rein.

Bill Clinton, who will be voting for McCain, has a starring role in it. Bill Clinton calls out the Democrats for being part of the problem in this economic mess.

McCain is going up with a new national 60 second ad. It is excellent! And perfect timing!

Will Obama throw Bill Clinton under the bus, again? Bill Clinton tells it like it is in this ad.

A vote for McCain-Palin is a vote for Hillary Clinton in 2012!

NOBAMA!!

McCain-Palin '08
Hillary 2012

Yesterday's bill was a bad bill. My Dem representative voted against it, and I am glad he did. It was a lousy bill. The republicans could have simply said "We do not support a flawed bill" and they would not be accused today of being whiners looking for their binkies. Grow up, please. Put country first instead of greed first.

The bill allowed banks to have zero reserves. Did you know that? And that is just one reason it was BAD.

"a disillusioned Democrat offers steadfast defense of FoxNews?"
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FoxNews has gotten better, while most MSNBC and CNN programs are so far into campaigning for Obama that it's embarrassing to watch.

"Why is that hard to believe? Not EVERY Democrat is on board with the hijacked "leadership" and its Republican-lite nominee, especially nominal Democrats who want to keep being members of Congress"

So in response to a Republican lite a disillusioned Democrat offers steadfast defense of FoxNews?

LOL

"We totally believe you're a Democrat, Cultural Amnesia."
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Why is that hard to believe? Not EVERY Democrat is on board with the hijacked "leadership" and its Republican-lite nominee, especially nominal Democrats who want to keep being members of Congress ... as yesterday's House vote among "Democrats" suggests.

"The Democrats killed any regulation of Fannie Mae. So what to Obama supporters say to that?"

How did Democrats kill any regulation when Republicans controlled Congress?

sandy what if your are old or sick and shut in. Shouldn't you still have the right to vote?

Woody,

The Tax Policy Center is your best bet for impartial analysis.

"I get that, CO, but ACORN is under investigation and indictment across the country."

So are a dozen members of the Republican party that served in the Senate or House to say nothing of the score of aides also under indictment.

John McCain railed against Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac on the campaign trail today, saying that the CEOs that led the lenders to ruin "deserve nothing" and should have to pay back their severance packages. In an Wall Street Journal op-ed co-bylined by his vice presidential pick, Sarah Palin, McCain suggested bold reforms for Fannie and Freddie that would "terminate future lobbying, which was one of the primary contributors to this great debacle."

If that's the case, McCain should look first to his campaign staffers as the cause of that debacle. One of them was Fannie Mae's head of lobbying, and spread tens of millions of dollars around Washington in the form of lobbying contracts. A number of McCain staffers were on the receiving end of those contracts, collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars each from the lenders to rep their interests. And McCain's campaign manager served as president of a lobbying association that fought to protect Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae from the sort of regulation that McCain is now proposing.

"The Democrats killed any regulation of Fannie Mae. So what to Obama supporters say to that?"

That was different! Fannie, Freddie and Obama.

I get that, CO, but ACORN is under investigation and indictment across the country. This is not community organizing as one thinks of it. This is straight up old fashioned voter fraud Chicago style. Obama is in this up to his neck. The bailout bill was stuffed with pork for it. This is very close to if not already criminal conspiracy to commit fraud.

The MSM can ignore it but the FBI can't.

Funny how right wingers want to talk about ACORN.

Shall we discuss the dozens of Republican Congressmen and staff caught in the Abramoff scandal?

Or how about Tom Delay?

Or Duke Cunningham?

Or Jim Doolittle?

Or Duncan Hunter?

MM,

Do you remember where you read that analysis? Please don't point me to Obama's site or CNN Money. I need an impartial source.

"Andrea Mitchell said on MSNBC's Morning Joe ... "
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Inasmuch as she's married to Alan Greenspan, SURELY Mitchell shouldn't be packaging Obama/Pelosi's babble for the masses on this particular subject.

Democrats offered Republicans a say every step of the way. Republicans want it all or nothing, the truth of the matter they want credit for solving the crisis but don't want to take the blame for causing it.

Republicans: A Divided Party?

Republicans egged on this economic crisis and applied every lever of the Shock Doctrine in an effort to turn it to their advantage. They created it, they stoked it, they owned it, and they desperately tried to make it work for them, but this time the flames of fear got out of their control. Unable to game out their next move, and facing an electorate that sees them as worse than useless, House Republicans scattered in all directions. Yesterday, in a self-confessed fit of snit, they walked away from the table because that mean lady hurt their feelings. And where is the republican leadership?

What will they do today?
Stay tuned.....

McCain trying to win an election. Obama trying to prevent an economic crisis. Say what you will about the bailout but the Republicans haven't offered any alternative and have instead resorted to attacks. I guess that is leadership Republicans can believe in.

"Andrea Mitchell, NBC Reporter"

You lost me after NBC reporter. Do they still have "reporters" over there?