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When did the truth ever get between the Republican party and voters? Like weapons of mass destruction, the outing of Valerie Plume, and the pillage of the Justice Department under Alberto Gonzales, the truth never really seems to matter. It's all about spin and winning the next election. Leadership? Well, they always point to Ronald Reagan for that, a man who raised taxes 6 times as President and signed a very liberal abortion rights bill as Governor of California.

Bob, the point of Palin's line on the bridge is not did she support it or not, but that she somehow stood up to congress. The press keeps asking 'did she support it?' instead of 'did she stand up to congress?'. She's trying to build her cred as gutsy, and the press is acting like they dont understand the whole point. The fact is she never said anything to congress, the entire story is an out-and-out fabrication, and they let her get away with it by pretending they dont get the real point of the whole thing.

"...he's never run a city, never run a state, never run a business. He's never had to lead people in crisis."
--Rudy Guiliani, about Obama

"...has never run a city, never run a state, never run a government. He has never been responsible as a mayor for the safety and security of millions of people... "
--Rudy Guiliani, about McCain

Stewart is not making fun of Rove here, he's making fun of the press that lets him get away with stuff like this.

*****IOKIYAR*****

spock,

Don't be afraid of people that you wheel out to prove your humanity.

spock,

Yeah the same way that Gulliani dismissed McCains 95% Bush voting record as mostly on irrelevant procedural issues.

Which way do you want to have it?

So Karl Rove is touting the experience of big old Wasilla and running down little ole Richmond? Sounds like a fool that would lose his own e-mails to me.

megan - you asked that of someone that has been on a ticket for 1 day shouldn't you be asking

Barack Hussein Obama stop avoiding the questions you are not above anyone. The American people have a right to known your positions.

jhw539 - sorry to burst you bubble but he was only present 186 times, and out of that he voted present 130 times
and one of the votes he did was against saving babies lives because it would be an inconvenience!

I think we all know Karl said prior to the November, 2006 that he, and he alone, had access to the "real" math and Republicans would win.

Wasilla is the "second largest city in Alaska." Richmond "is not that big a town." So I guess you could say of Fox and Newsweek, their decision to choose Karl Rove means they were not that concerned about accurately informing their viewers and readers.

"I expect to see lots of Old and Tired Elephants in drag with lipstick and high heels."

You live in San Francisco?

Sarah Palin stop avoiding the questions you are not above anyone. The American people have a right to known your positions.

SOWHAT: Actually, Troopergate is a credible ethics investigation into whether she used her position to have her ex-brother-in-law fired.

Rumors about her daughter, I agree, should be off limits but if she is going to parade her daughter and the hockey papa in the media, which they have done, then it's safe to say that it should be fair game.

As for her ability to be VP when she has a special needs infant, I think that's a very viable concern. It was enough of a concern for Republicans when John Edwards put his campaign ahead of his wife's cancer in 2004.

In the end, we're not going to change each others minds but you do have to stop blaming the media. The media is not the problem. It's the 8 years of the Bush administration as well as the 6 years of Republican rule that are the problem.

Did everybody notice that the RNC used a fake funeral with actors this week in one of their videos?

Republicans can't deal with realities.

Does McCain really think they only have to put some lipstick on their failed policies?

And that's change?

Cartoonists will have a field day with that. I expect to see lots of Old and Tired Elephants in drag with lipstick and high heels.

People will soon realize that underneath that drag, there's still that elephant

Be back..off to email Oprah..

Posted by: Christie | Sep 5, 2008 1:20:34 PM

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Oprah receives more than 1 million emails each and every day. I am sure yours will stand out, though LOL!

Be back..off to email Oprah..

John McCain and Sarah Palin don't want to address issues for any of us. Not once was the economy discussed at Republican Convention!! Do they think about average workers??? Today News releases Friday - reach worst levels -worst foreclosures increase, increase in unemployment to 6.1% and is now at highest has been for five years, gasoline rising, electricity cost heating cost up, largest national debt in history of US

QUESTION - Do Republicans care??
John McCain and President Bush recent statments - feel economy stable or shows some improvement
ANSWER: No!!! Never even addressed economy at National Convention!! Whole convention more geared towards no mention of issue - more attention to John McCain's war record and his experience. AND MEDIA ATTENTION ON SARAH PALIN, KARL ROVE DID THIS FOUR YEARS AGO TO TAKE NEWS OFF BUSH.

COMMUNITY FUNDRAISERS
John McCain and Sarah Palin have made statement at convention and again today.
They feel and state common prople are nothing and do nothing. Sarah shame on you!!!!! YOU ARE NOW "THE ELITE" since you are Vice Presidential Candidate!!

BIG PITCH - REGULAR COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS WHO HELP PEOPLE OR ASSIST THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES DON'T DO ANYTHING!! COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY NOR DO THEY SHOW LEADERSHIP SKILLS.

I know exactly what these two think!!! Sarah is new - all has gone to her head - "TOO GOOD NOW FOR REGULAR PEOPLE" And she slams us!! Sarah Palin is now the new "ELITIST" who joined John McCain the old "ELITIST" who can't even remember how many houses he owns.

From a 63 yo white college educated medical professional woman who is registered Republican!! Widowed with two adult married children. I am so disappointed. How dare these two and Republican Party say this about us at the grassroots level!! And your lack of interest in/for the average person. Neither of you mentioned anything about economy at convention!! You don't care!! Both I have found care about more about oil and corporations interests!!

EVERYONE - YES I HAVE A RIGHT TO CRITICIZE SARAH PALIN WITHOUT CLAIMS OF BEING "SEXIST." THESE ARE ISSUES, NOT GENDER RELATED! AND I AM A WOMAN! NATION HAS MAJPOR PROBLEMS! THESE TWO INSULTED/ARE NOT OUT TO HELP AVERAGE AMERICANS!!

RE: Spoken like someone who has never helped out another human being one day in her life.

I certainly think staying after church and seeking some guidance on being tolerate is a good thing.

ABC News has exclusively learned that Alaska Senator Hollis French will announce today that he is moving up the release date of his investigation into whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her office to get the Alaska public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, fired. The results of the investigation were originally scheduled for release Oct. 31 but will now come almost three weeks earlier, according to sources.

2. Did not Bush attend two Ivy Leagues colleges, including Harvard?

Posted by: Gonz | Sep 5, 2008 12:54:23 PM
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And didn't Karl Rove push that fact to PROVE he was ready to be POTUS?

And NOW it doesnt count, right? Typical, hypocritical Repub double speak

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!!!!!

I agree that you are.

Christie: "A community volunteer does not go around and brag nor boast or use that about themselves if they are truly sincere from where I come from... He was getting people out to vote for his party."

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Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!!!!!

Changing peoples lives for the better does not happen in the dark, it needs light to flourish and grow!

Mother Wattles (RIP), a hero here in Detroit used to go on the morning TV circuit before church services and would hit you over the head with her messages. She was a hoot to watch!

Sorry, but the REpugs have picked on the WRONG group of people and they need to shut this down Quick!!

My parish Priest told me he ordered 50 of the "Jesus was a Community Organizer" t-shirts for our youth group. This man is a staunch Republican and he is hopping mad!! He said "When they chose to stone one of us, they chose to stone us all".

This is a bi-partisan call to arms!

And let's not forget the charities that depend on us in the community to raise funds and promote their causes:

American Heart Assoc.
American Lung Assoc.
JDF
Easter Seals
United Way
Focus Hope
Feed the Children Fund
American Red Cross

Just to name a few.

Let's look into the divorce papers of Obama's family. Let's see, there were two right?

Correction: the facts that disqualify false rumors spread by the Obama campaign, are not rigorously reported as the rumors.

Gonz: Obama is the master of false rumors. Problem here is, America is being exposed to these rumors as factual news, without all the facts on all the liberal network and cable news, until the facts come out. At which point, the facts disqualifying the rumors are as vigorously represented as the rumors. Shall we try trooper gate that the Obama camp is trying to push. A trooper who drank in his government car, threatened to kill a citizen, and the list goes on, was not fired by a superior. Pressure to fire this employee was RIGHT not WRONG. So why is Obama going after this, why is he so desperate? Are the real issues far too complicated?

Todd Palin's former business partner files an emergency motion to have his divorce papers sealed. Oh God.

Yup, Yup, Sowhat, VP for a 72 yr old president is an "on-the-job" training position isn't it. Palin has to be tutored first before she can be grilled, eh? Maybe she'll just change address to that "undisclosed location " of Cheney's.

Hiding from the press is a great way to start an administration of transparency. The electorate does not have a right to know who their prospective VP/POTUS is now do they?

Who needs to make an informed choice???

Oprah gives prizes away and some of the folks eat that up. Price is Right. Look how she gave a way cars. She has an odd following like Obama's. People that she disagrees with she has no tolerance for ..I lost respect for her. Women made her famous not her race nor africian dirt. She probably doesn't want her on because Sarah would show her as what she really is. Bias and a fake. Everyone knows Oprah is a fake but her worshippers (kinda like Obama). Did you see the goofy remarks Whoopi made!!!!!!!!

Obama's unofficial advisers consist of MTV and Most of Hollywood.

Gee Bob, that was so brave of Obama to FINALlY go on ORs show once he stole the nomination from the base of the Democratic Party. Very daring indeed.

SOWHAT!:
Among Rove's credentials, you list voter, spectator and Republican. You also left off unofficial advisor to the McCain campaign. Listing Rove as a supposed "regular guy" is laughable. He's an opportunistic spin-meister, a charlatan, a duplicitous blusterer and a false rumor monger. Just ask anyone on the McCain 2000 campaign.

Thanks Jake...

There it is folks....Now Sarah, we need you to come out of hiding and stop bashing the media because "any perceived whine" about having to answer questions and explain your record and "prove yourself that you're capable, that you are going to be the best candidate."

The difference between McCain and Obama is that McCain doesn't NEED Oprah.

We know that the left want's us to immediately toss Palin into the lions den to be ripped by the left liberal media. Excuse the Republicans for wanting to have their moment with their nominee before tossing her into the den. The entire NATION knows it's a left wing media NOW. Can't hide that anymore.

Palin would never be allowed on Oprah's show...Oprah would skewer her. Just imagine Oprah demanding explicit answers to pointed questions. Hell, even McCain wouldn't want to go on Oprah.

BTW, McCain's campaign has said that Palin will not give interviews until after the election...wonder why?

Yet Obama goes to the lion's den on O'Reilly.

Sure, Bob, whatever.

Amy sez: "People think getting a Ivy league degree makes a person inherently superior than those who did not -- this is exactly democrats are loosing for this year. Harvard education does not make a good leader -- it only trains you to think about things in a particular way that those professors like."

1. Getting 'a' (as you put it) Ivy League education does not make a person inherently superior. There's a good article on that in the Summer 2008 edition of the American Scholar.

2. Did not Bush attend two Ivy Leagues colleges, including Harvard?

Yes, as a voter, spectator and Republican Karl Rove prefers Palin over Obama. He therefore speaks to his reasons. Oprah, too as a voter, spectator, Democrat? promoted Obama when most of America didn't know who he was. People of fame vote too. Your point? We had Obama prance out as though he were one of the Beatles, to be adored from a distance and to be available solely to his newly acquired (a la Oprah) celebrity fame. The press, who drooled adoringly from afar as well, was not able to interview Obama, until he became the pop star Oprah made.

Thousands of US mag subscribers cancelled subscriptions this week do to the negative cover with Gov. Palin (I was one of them). They may have to back peddle and do a cover like the nauseating one with The Obama's lovey dovey cover two weeks ago. Really, isn't Obama's 15 minutes over yet....doesn't he want to put in more than 143 days in the Senate?

It's a picture for you to see-- of showing a balance of supporting the mother and the child. It shows to any common sense person what the family unit means. It shows what values are. It's easy to get (family values or just being there for one another as a family). It was very wrong to put down the daughter as the left and the media are doing. They even ask for dna for the little newborn on some kooky blogs and those people ran with that vile. I think there will be a huge backlash because everywhere you go people complaint about the media being bias and showing hatefulness to certain groups and certain people.

Oprah can't have Gov. Palin on her show....she'd be such a hypocrite. She never had Hillary and she lost me long ago, with 15% of her viewers. The women who made her years ago, many have turned off to her and tuned out. Her popularity levels took a nose dive after her endorsement. I for one would be disgusted to see her interview Gov. Palin....let Barbara, Diane, or Katie do the job.....HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR
McCAIN/PALIN

Bob, I see insulting voters is part of your push to vote for the far left. Good strategy. Wow, this is a rampant theology of the Obama campaign.

Bob forget McCan. Man should be true to his words. It's credibility issue.

I sincerely hope that Karl Rove continues his endorsements of Palin. He needs to compensate for the exposure she's not receiving through interviews.

Tim,

That record is only relevant when posted against McCains...but you knew that didn't you.

McCain has no problem in having a record of where he has stood, how he has changed, and where he stands. Obama hides his true self by not taking a stand. Does America want to vote for a record they can see, or one that is HIDDEN? Your choice America...

Speaking of Oprah, why is she using her money to promote Obama, yet not paying off her mothers debts. Let's talk FAMILY VALUES.

For the Obama folks who wants to know Obama stand on Economy. As per votesmart website Let's look at his voting record:

Not Voted - 47 times
Yes - 29 times
No -12 times

Economy related voting:

NOT VOTED for 02/07/2008 Economic Stimulus Plan

NOT VOTED for 07/26/2008 Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Funding

NOT VOTED for 07/26/2008 Housing Bill with Energy Tax Credit Extensions

NOT VOTED 07/15/2008 Medicare Bill(voted for 7/9/2008)

NOT VOTED 06/25/2008 -Housing Foreclosure Assistance Programs

NOT VOTED 06/17/2008 Alternative Energy Tax Incentives

NOT VOTED 02/26/2008 Health Care for Indigenous Peoples (IRONY OBAMA is for Heathcare)

Chistie, The only upkeep was storage fer chrissakes....and then there was the broker fee as well.

This is just so much smoke and mirrors espoused for the benefit of the lo-info, sound-bite voters that the GOP caters to.

McCain and Palin are both lying through their teeth at every stump speech. The bridge to nowhere...Palin is on the record multiple times supporting it UNTIl federal funding was reallocated. Now it's just a convenient campaign lie that she said, "thanks, but no thanks" to Congress. There's still the bridge to Wasilla that noone's mentioned.

McCain keeps his military records sealed for a reason. The Vietcong code name for him was "songbird." Why are his records still SEALED? The only version of his captivity we have is his own.
cain

Abstinence teaches the value of RELATIONSHIPS.

Teaching one abstinence, is sex education. It works and has been proven to work. Yes, there are failures just as there are numerous failures in sex ed and contraception. Most abortions do not occur because of rape or incest. Most occur because of carelessness, even though contraception was available. Those are facts that America needs to face. Abortion is being used as contraception. If a young woman knew her fate would ultimately be pregnancy, she would be more careful. Churches who promote abstinence, have a higher degree of success among their youth, than the sex ed products in our society. Argue your true values, but face the reality.

Some polls are showing Palin has even higher positives than all the 3 men. I see Oprah is so afraid that she is refusing to have Palin on her show. Wow!

It's up to the voters to decide whether they believe, Obama or McCain represents most of their values. Obama has pushed forth his values with his arguments and attacks. What America now knows is this. We do not want to be racist, McCain is not a racist nor does he focus on race; Obama does. America does not want to be sexist; Obama's support has flung the most sexist attacks on women since the mid sixties; you know, the last cultural revolution. McCain has been accused of pandering to women; Well that is definitely something Obama does NOT do though he caters to the RACE factor. McCain is against abortion, pro sex education. Obama is Pro abortion and pro sex education. The difference here, is the value of life. Which does America prefer?

And Rasmussen is typucally skewed toward the GOP

No way! Zogby is more liberal leaning.

Sowhat

that is a strong argument because republicans have always claim to be the champions of family values. thats hypocritical.

Again this is a big deal because Palin is opposed to sex education and the use of contraception which could have prevented her daughters pregnancy. Thats extremism and its very hypocritical.

I am tired of Karl Rove and his illegal tactics!! John McCain and Sarah Palin hate all regular workers and community organizers!!

Palin DID NOT sell the plane on Ebay...she did advertise it there but sold it through a broker to an Alaskan RE: sportiing goods tycoon, AND, she didn't sell it for a PROFIT! It was about a $300K loss.

Ebay got it sold. You must not be an ebayer. The HUGE advertisetment that would bring. Come on, Bob! They saved $$$$ from upkeep and fuel. Think about it!

And Rasmussen is typucally skewed toward the GOP

Debra

you just lied about the polls.
Rasmussen; 51% believe Obama is more qualified than Palin to be president.

The claim that a young girl having a baby, while being Republican, is hypocritical, is not only a flawed, but an underlying agenda argument. If you think she should abort her baby in order to be a better role model, then say so. I am sure Middle America WOULD NOT AGREE. Left wingers won't say the truth. To them a woman who has an abortion is a better role model than one who has her baby. The Left wing argument.

I was so impressed by Cindy McCain's bio last night and didn't know that she is the first college grad from her family (USC). Her dad is self made man who served this great country and came back to persue the American Dream....I can see how she fell for McCain, as she adored her father too, and there are similarities. I wish Michelle Obama did 1/10 of what Cindy has done in Philanthropy.....but she's too busy flying to LA (2 days ago)to a Gay and Lez fundraiser and gathering up 1 million and flying back home. She's a real humanitarian that Michelle.
Palin is the real deal and the Maverick got this right.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN/PALIN

Amy

the bottomline of this election is who is more intelligent, who has the right judgment and who can put the economy back on track.

Of course its Obama.

McCain made a dumb decision thinking we`d vote for a right wing extremist just because she is a woman. thats poor judgment.

RE: Now why dont you talk about McCain`s two spiritual guides who will not serve America but preach hatred against fellow Americans?

Seems like I can see the difference of hatefulness and being tolerate.

McCain just outright lied just now stumpiong in Wisconsin.

Palin DID NOT sell the plane on Ebay...she did advertise it there but sold it through a broker to an Alaskan sportiing goods tycoon, AND, she didn't sell it for a PROFIT! It was about a $300K loss.

McCain just said otherwise.

I suppose Obama's compassion is to be commended for outcasting 1/3 of the Democratic Party. The BASE. You know, those with whom he took a SELFISH do it ALONE stance with? Yes, yes, very compassionate to turn away the party.

Patriot- I think you are wrong on 911. Again Guilani did not won his nomination because he has only issue to fight for.

You with other Obama folks are trying to divide America and that will not help Obama to win the Presidency.

Rove is not concentrating on Gov. Palin's Mayoral experience, because he is more focused on her Governor experience...more executive duties. Who cares anyway....polls as of yesterday had Americans believe Gov. Palin as more qualified to be Prez by 49% to Obama at 39%! Ouch..our #2 gal is stronger than the guy at the top of their ticket.....bozo's 15 minutes are about to run out.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN/PALIN

Christie

At least we know Rev Wright served on the frontlines in Vietnam so dont tell me he is unpatriotic because McCain is.(for the same reason).

Now why dont you talk about McCain`s two spiritual guides who will not serve America but preach hatred against fellow Americans?

Ofcourse its Rev Hagee and Parsly.

Christians don't believe a girl should be the center of attention or the center of ridicule. They do believe, a baby deserves to live, regardless of how the baby's existence occured. So what exactly is your argument against this catjaya?

People think getting a Ivy league degree makes a person inherently superior than those who did not -- this is exactly democrats are loosing for this year. Harvard education does not make a good leader -- it only trains you to think about things in a particular way that those professors like.

the polls already show McCain-Palin convention bounce of 5 to 7 points now. Wait when Palin travels to the small towns and connect with people.

This year should have been a dem year, but the democrats have selected a person who is least likely to win the other half of the America.

the bottom line is trust - who do you think can really deliver. I trust McCain -Palin, not Obama-Biden.

Christie, noone is claiming perfection but outright mistruths (lies) are quite evident in Palin's and McCain' rhetoric. Obama has demonstrated compassion when he could've sprang to big money and Wallstreet. Meanwhile, I see no evidence of an altruistic bone in the GOP ticket whatsoever.

Bob, representing your ivy league candidate to Middle America by attacking the education of a Middle American, most American's? Wow, your elite education has made you so clever.

I'm personally apalled at the ~so called christain republicans~ double standard on teenage pregnancy.

No one suggests, Bristol not have the baby,but to parade her on stage with her lover,and celebrate this as a virtue
and role model for Americans,and (young people)to behold,is Hypocritical.

Sowhat

Are you saying Obama does not share the interest of Americans? Can you name one?

SOWHAT: "Far lefties want to focus on superficial issues, McCain is focussing on AMERICAN ISSUES."

Wow. What an utterly meaningless statement - seriously, can you even define what that means, nevermind back it up with facts?

Bob, no one is perfect. NO ONE but when you have a man who was brought up with the teachings of a radical church and has unusual feelings of wearing the American flag pin and will not say the pledge of alliance and supported a state law to not have a doctor in the hospital for a baby being born alive that's not no where in God's platform.

amy: "I have no seen any reports on Obama's school record."

That reflects on your own ignorance, not the media. His time in private schools in Jakarta was heavily reported and researched, particularly as it clearly called out Foxnews as pushing false partisan slander.

His path from a community college, up to Columbia, and ultimately to graduating magna cum laude from Harvard is very well known, and the way he improved himself through clear merit and intelligence is admired by the well-educated portion of his base (who think accusations of "elitism" because he is smart make the accusers look like idiots who apparently want an intellectually slow president).

amy,

you'are right let's shrink from contrasting Obama's Stanford undergrad degree and Harvard post graduate record (not to mention editor of Harvard Law Review) against Palin's 6 university (no extracurricular activity) journalism degree, that would be sexist.

Mike

did you say Palin has skills? Wow!! How do you know?

The far left is claiming Jesus? The majority of Obama's supporters are NON RELIGIOUS. THats fine, just tell the truth. Obama does NOT represent the interests of MOST AMERICANS.

Far lefties want to focus on superficial issues, McCain is focussing on AMERICAN ISSUES.

The far left is trying to convince Middle America that their values are shared. GIVE US A BREAK! Anyone notice how the degrading Rap industry has lost a lot of influence since the Republicans have been in power? I think that is a very attractive fact for MOST Americans. Or the entertainment industry that brough us Pulp Fiction pop culture influence, also deminished. It all depends, what side of America do you want to have your children influenced by?

"Jesus was a Community Organizer"

Remember Jesus said: "I have no kingdom. In this world, I'm through. "

Where has world come to? For the sake of presidency people compare themselves with Jesus.

I apologize for the typos...

Christie,

I didn't expect a response to Matthew 25 Network's posiotn. Just ignore the truths you don't wish to acknowlege.

Christie: "A community volunteer does not go around and brag nor boast or use that about themselves if they are truly sincere from where I come from... He was getting people out to vote for his party."

I know many people who are proud of their work in the community and talk about it in an effort to encourage others to also participate. By your metric, my Priest is quite the arrogant blowhard trying to get people involved in helping the needy - how dare he lead by example!

It also seems a bit disingenuous to disparage a candidate for including his community work on his resume - would you prefer he not discuss it at all? In that case, people might start spreading lies - as you are doing when you say that he was just "getting people out to vote for his party." His work included: "helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens."

But perhaps he did all that two decades ago just to get ready for his presidential run in 2008.

what is wrong with Palin's education? I have many friends in Oregon who are just un-traditional and went to several schools before graduating. What is more disturbing?

using drugs to battle self-struggle or, moving from schools to figure out academic interests?

I have no seen any reports on Obama's school record. How about Biden's school record?-- his plagiarism record is still in Syracuse university law school. Anybody talking about that?

The more the media is digging with those irrelevant private info, the more people will be turned off. My friends are no longer reading the newspaper for informat