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Sorry- you can take that out. I got the wrong thread.

"Obama said his position on this was simple. "If you got a terrorist -- take him out. Anybody who was involved in 9/11? Take him out.""

But how do know if they had anything to do with 9-11 unless you CATCH THEM?

>smirk<

Yup, I think a lot of politicians are guilty for earmarks. However, which Governor, and or Senator were actually trying to create jobs, and energy for the nation, and which was claiming their earmarks for for those poor and destitute?

As for Michelle....she got the raise, when the hospital got the earmark. Coincidence? Also to note... they turn away those constituents they say they are trying to help, if said constituents don't have valid insurance.

It must be nice to sit on the pedestal of hypocrisy, and look down your nose, at everyone else.

Geevill said: Governor Palin can not spend federal tax dollars unless they are appropriated by Congress.
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And she doesn't get them unless she asks for them.

Palin and McCain have made earmarks an issue. If she is such a champion of the taxpayers' money why did she go ahead and build the road-to-nowhere instead of returning that money. That road was supposed to lead to the bridge to nowhere but now it ends at an empty beach.

The earmark for the road required it either be spent on the road or returned to the federal treasury. She chose to build the road.

'Here's one highlight: Obama sought money for the University of Chicago Hospitals. Wife Michelle works for the University of Chicago Hospitals, appointed in spring 2005 as vice president for community and external affairs at the University of Chicago Hospitals. She is now on leave from the job to campaign for her husband. Top campaign adviser and friend Valerie Jarrett is the Chair of the University of Chicago Medical Center Board and also Chair of the Executive Committee of that board. She has also been named Vice-Chair of the University's Board of Trustees. "

I still cannot get over the fact that she allows people to shoot Polar Bears from low flying planes and is sueing the goverment because Polar Bears are on the extinct list and she want them taken off the list so she can drill for more oil.

How sad is this.

Some context might be helpful. Illinois has nearly 13 million residence, Alaska fewer then 700,000. Obama has been in the Senate 3-1/2 years, while Palin has been Governor less than 2. So Palin's requests amount to $330 per person per year, dwarfing Obama's $20 per person per year.

According to a CNN Special, Obama was a failure as a community organizer. Later he would use a political colleague one day for political gain, then back-stabbed them the next week. Something like throwing so many associates or friends under the bus.
Obama need for political power is scary. He care not about Americans, but for the political power of Obama. All the CNN people have been for the candidate Obama. He is a political mad man. No way, Obama.

>>> future imperfect:

Mary Anne--

How wise was it for Sarah Palin to mock tens of thousands of people who work for little or no money?
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Sarah Palin mocked ONE man who made a big "magillah" about his service as a community organizer..... because he was putting down HER experience as a mayor of a small town!

Quit the phoney caterwauling!

"Palin hates earrmarks so much"

She requested $200M more in earmarks 2 months ago.

Young is being challenged because he is about to be indicted.

"Obama gave earrmarks to the hospital his wife works at and at the time all of a sudden her salary was doubled."

Michelle Obama got her raise on 2005.

Obama put in for an earmark in 2006 but it did not make the final budget bill.

The right wing lies.

The dems have all the control of congress.

Reid will have a filibuster proof majority in the senate.

Pelosi will have a huge majority in the house.

We need McCain there to veto there out of control spending.

Obama loves pork.

This election is so clear. We need a balanced government with McCain vetoing the out of control spending from reid and pelosi. Not with Obama and pelosi and reid.

We need balance. McCain has even said he would testify weekly before congress.

McCain is the CIC we need not Obama.

This election is so clear.

Palin hates earrmarks so much she had her Lt governor run againsat don young because of all the earrmark money she took.

Don Young a 35 year institution in alaska and Palin showed the courage to take him on that is how much she hates earrmarks.

Obama on the other hand doesn't want to fix the earrmark process.

He is fine with attaching museums to flood control projects. He doesn't understand the system.

Obama gave earrmarks to the hospital his wife works at and at the time all of a sudden her salary was doubled.

"Engineers, for which Obama requested $33 million? How sad is it when a senator has to request money for a Federal Agency to be able to do its job properly."....

That WASN'T the biggest>

Look again!

eyeswideopen: Learn to add. Illinois State University had $1.3 million in Obama earmarks.

And by the way people, did you notice that one of the biggest recipients of Obama earmarks was the Army Corps of Engineers, for which Obama requested $33 million? How sad is it when a senator has to request money for a Federal Agency to be able to do its job properly.

geevil: "Like obama's words regarding promising to take public financing?"

And what were Obama's words exactly? For instance, what did he say about outside groups (527s) and their role in the campaign and what McCain could do about that? And what was McCain's response about what he would or more exactly wouldn't do about those 527s?

Yourgameletsplay: There are 670,000 people in Alaska. There are 12.8 million people in Illinois. Palin's earmarks average out to $676 per person for Alaskans. Obama's earmarks average out to $72 per person for residents of Illinois.

Hmm, who got more pork for their constituents?

McCain was stupid to select the Queen of Mean.

His entire message of being a moderate and ‘bipartisan’ Senator is totally in shatters: he belongs to the religious fringe. They have become the face of his campaign which was already totally paid for by Big Corp, that other fringe group Americans love to hate. The foreign policies of his campaign are dictated by the Neocons. These are the three fringes most associated with Bush/Cheney and Obama and Biden will have no problem pointing that out to the voters. When the race is over come election day, Palin-McCain will have polled in the lower thirties nationwide.

Being perceived as a moderate and a bipartisan was the entire reason the race was still close. The Palin-bump (pun intended) is already stalling. It can only go down for them. The more we learn about Palin, the more voters will turn away.

Palin-McCain don't have any prospect for expanding their ‘base’ right now. Their only hope is that their base will still be as blinded by Dominatrix as they are after just 1 week of Palin-hysteria. Anything that was supposed to be positive about the Dominatrix has been dumped on the American public in carefully scripted appearances. The negatives will be highlighted in the coming months.

"I mean, words mean something"

Like obama's words regarding promising to take public financing? or Obama's words promising to fillibuster and vote against FISA?
Words like G-Damn America?

"How wise was it for Sarah Palin to mock tens of thousands of people who work for little or no money?"

An Obama supporter's fantasy. Palin and Gulliani mocked "Community Organizer" Obama. WHAT? oh, someone who recruits union memebers and rounds up winos to vote on election days.

Moneyman:

I apologize for saying that Michele's employer, the University Of ILLinois Hospital, received $1,000,000. in earmarks from Bozo.

I was wrong!

Her employer received MEGA MILLIONs of dollars!

The Illinois State University, however, didn't fare a smidgeon as well.

So much for Political PORK!

The jury is in, Paulin is two-faced. If as he says, McCain fully vetted Paulin then he by extension is also two-faced or lacks reading in any case they must not become Vice President, President ELECT.

Vote Obama - Biden!!

Mary Anne--

How wise was it for Sarah Palin to mock tens of thousands of people who work for little or no money?

Her speech was a fantastic fund raiser --- for Obama. He raised $11 million dollars in the 24 hours after her speech, which included 50,000 new donors.

This thing is not as close as you think.

By the way McCain/Palin, going to lose in November just like I told you Hillary would lose and that she would not have a floor fight. I was right and you were wrong about that.

Obama is inevitable, can't you smell the future, it is unstoppable now.

John McCain can't escape George Bush. That picture is worth a thousand words and you will see it over and over and over for the next 60 days.

You cannot vote with George Bush 90% of the time and then say you are a maverick. Doesn't work.

You should be, there's a new day coming and it is being lead by the future of this country.

The Obama campaign has spent four times as much money on their campaign and the polls say the two are in a dead heat. Money may buy corruption but hopefully it will not buy the election.
At this point, I could not vote for Obama for pooper-scooper supervisor.

lololololol!!! They think if they say that John McCain cannot win in November that it will be so. Gee, they are sounding more and more like George Bush aren't they? If you just think it will be so, than it will be so. Wasn't that his strategy? Maybe he tutored Obama and his flunkies about that tactic and that is why they are stooping to that level now. WHAT'S THE MATTER OBAMA JUNKIES, YOU DON'T LIKE IT THAT OBAMA IS IN A DEAD HEAT WITH MCCAIN? Awwwwww, poor little babies! lolol

==Give it your best shot in November because we will all be giving it our best shot to have Obama defeated! ==

Where have I indicated that I believe other than you? I want McCain/Palin to win, too. They will.

Obama said two days after he got the nomination about the women who were still upset with him, "They'll get over it." Oh yes, he was a very wise man to use that strategy. Now, the supporters have shifted and changed with McCain gaining in some areas and Obama gaining in some areas but McCain's gains among women have stayed the same! Obama's gains are not increasing, so I guess he will not be getting over it because we plan to vote for John McCain in November. Maybe the next time that Obama think he will open his mouth to insult the female gender he'll remember how it worked out for him this year! Idiot!

Senator Obama has sent tax payer money to his racist/hate mongering church that is building its former hate mongering pastor a big mansion. I can think of no bigger waste of money from the pockets of American workers.
Rev. Wright, "D## D### AMERICA". But we want your taxes so we can send more money to Africa and other interest.
Obama or his supporters should not say a word about expenditures in Alaska.

Mary Anne --

Dead heat in the NATIONAL polls. It ain't so close on a state to state basis. Obama is ahead by 10 electoral votes in strongly dem states and has about a 60 vote lead in states leaning dem.

smells like a landslide.

Mary Anne --

It isn't just young voters. So keep on hoping.

I don't understand why anyone who is "gray" would vote for a man who wants to privatize social security.

Also, you have lived your life. The future of this country should not be in your uninformed hands.

Mr. Incredible,

Give it your best shot in November because we will all be giving it our best shot to have Obama defeated!

Moneyman and Porky Palin: Don't be so sure that McCain cannot win the election. Is that why he is in a virtual dead heat with your brainless leader?

Mr Incredible -

Mail?

Why do you care what other people do? Why does one narrow minded group of people get to decide how the rest of us should live our own private lives that harm no one?

Also, why is it that everyone says Gov Palin is Brave for "choosing" to have a Down's baby. Her own Dogma would indicate that she had no choice in the matter. It takes no bravery to do something when you have no choice. She is doing what she must, not what she has chosen.

She does not believe in abortion under any circumstances, therefore she is not brave for having this child. She had no choice.

Ryan C.:

Oh, Republican Mafia, you mean the way Obama runs his campaign What a joke!

Young voters for Obama:
Good luck with all of that! The population is more than half gray in the US and we outnumber you so good luck with all of that in November. Because your demographic isn't the only one that can come out in large numbers for their candidate and we are coming out in big numbers for McCain. So, we'll see who wins!

Obama:I Wrote and passed a tough Nuclear Bill

However the bill was rejected by his own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

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So was Obama lying or was he being unclear?

jellybelly: I will not vote for Steven Erkel for President and Bluto the bully for VP either!

On March 25th, the Chicago Tribune reports that an extensive search found no basis for an episode Obama recounts about a picture he ran across in Life magazine of a “black man who had tried to peel off his skin” in a failed effort to use chemicals to lighten it.

Obama writes that “seeing that article was violent for me, an ambush attack.”The Tribune continued: “Yet no such Life issue exists, according to historians at the magazine. No such photos, no such article.

When asked about the discrepancy, Obama said in a recent interview, “It might have been an Ebony or it might have been … who knows what it was?”At the request of the Chicago Tribune, archivists at Ebony searched their catalogue of past articles, none of which matched what Obama recalled.”
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Wow Obama sure is unclear a lot.

So, let's see. Obama points the finger at MCCain and while Obama was speaking at the covention about change, etc., Kerry was getting off a corporate fatcat's jet. While Obama was saying at the convention, he was cutting down on lobbyists, etc. Nancy pelosi and the Dems had an elaborate spread on the top floor of a building only a block away from the convention for more corporate fatcats. Isn't that a case of the pot calling the kettle black? What a hypocrite! He is in true Obama form! All I can say is that the GOP is very nervous about John mcCain because they said he hassled them as a Senator about these things and they know he will be even harder about them as President. Let's see,,.... hmmmmmm...., are the Dems saying the same thing about Obama? I THINK NOT! Obama was handed contributor's lists from the likes of Dodd, Kennedy and Kerry. So, who is the bigger liar and the bigger reformer? What a little liar! He just can't stand it that McCain held his own party's feet to the fire at the convention and Obama failed to do the same. He can't stand that McCain already has tremendous experience with bipartisan support. He can't stand it that McCain wants to reform things in Washington and that now Obama can't say he is the only one who wants change to occur. It is taking the starch right out of his sail and I am thrilled to death!! Good riddance to bad rubbish Obama! Obama, Mr. common man, go to your 30,000 a plate dinner to be given by Bon Jovi in their mansion. Oh yea, he's a common man all right! Don't all of us attend dinners that cost 30,000 a plate? He knows he can't outspend McCain now because the support is pouring in for him. And, not just from white women who were so offended by his sexist treatment of Hillary and his insulting treatment of Bill Clinton. There are huge corporate heads who always supported the Dem party who are now supporting John MCCain. He wanted a war and he got a war. Let's see how that works out for him! Idiot! And you supporters just keep following him along believing anything he says. You all need a check up from the neck up!

==ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Gov. Sarah Palin's church is promoting a conference that promises to convert gays into heterosexuals through the power of prayer.==

YYYYEEEAAAA!

=="You'll be encouraged by the power of God's love and His desire to transform the lives of those impacted by homosexuality," according to the insert in the bulletin of the Wasilla Bible Church, where Palin has prayed for about six years.==

PRAISE THE LORD!

==She ...opposes gay marriage and spousal rights for gay couples.==

No, she recognizes that everybody is either mail, or female, and that those who claim to be homosexual are either mail, or female.

She knows that laws that define "marriage" as being between "man" and a "woman," or a "male" and of "female," include those who claim to be homosexual.

So, she knows that, for instance, a man who claims to be homosexual may marry a woman who is heterosexual, or claims to be homosexual.

Obama has never claimed that he did not take any earmarks. Almost every member of Congress has taken earmarks for their state, including McCain

The hypocrisy is Palin lying about not taking earmarks and McCain talking nonstop about earmarks and pork spending. There is no definition for pork, most of the time it is a matter of opinion.

eyes open wide.

yOU SEEN NOT TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEN OBAMA'S CRUCH RECIVING MONEY FOR JOBS TRAINING DURRING HE WORK IN THE STATE GOVERNMENT AND HIS FEDERAL WORK!

THE CHURCH WAS GIVEN MONEY TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR JOBS TRAINING AND POVERTY REDUCTION!
SOrry shift key was stuck--

The Urban Health (patient-dumping) Initiative which got Michelle's 300k raise was funded through a 42M federal grant.

I wonder how they got that grant? Pretty interesting set of coincidences...

MONEYMAN:

RE:
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PALIN'S EARMARKS AND OBAMA'S IS THAT

PALIN'S BENEFITTED HER STATE!

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When you're looking to find the ACTUAL EARMARKS of Obama's which benefitted his family and/or his church/and or his friends.....

You have to look for a source which is not supported and fed by Obama!

Try it; you'll like it!

I will not vote for Wilma Flinstone.

Samantha...

Like I said fight with truth.. if all you can do is make the same stupid asertion over and over Im not surprised you voting republican..I guess your too dumb to know better!

Concerned: Obama outspent competition 4 to 1

Truth: Obama spent $272M while Hillary alone spent $234M

Concerned: Obama spent $500M

Truth: Though formidiable Obama has not yet raised $500M let alone spent it. Last FEC records show thru July Obama had spent $323M

concerned: Obama gave $1M to his wife's hospital and they in turn gave her a $300K raise.

Truth: Obama requested an earmark for the hospital that ultimtaley did not go thru. Michele's raise was in line with other VPs and a reflection of the success of her Urban Intiative.

The truth will always win over concerned

Ryan C

"This week, seven key witnesses informed Mr. Branchflower through their attorneys that they would not provide depositions. Their depositions, which had been agreed to and scheduled earlier with Mr. Branchflower, were cancelled within the last 72 hours."

I wonder of the seven key witnesses with one been promised to be the head of homeland security which one will be Fema Director ?

What a joke its clear as day she is guilty! the Yahoo email she sent gives it all way!

Samantha,

"He didnt lie! He just wasnt clear about it!

Admiting you lied is more honourable not or in your case lying more.

Fight with truth Sam!

Republicans have crewed this country its time for change Obama 08"

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With supporters like you I don't think that Obama needs opposition!"He didnt lie! He just wasnt clear about it!

LOL LOL

"Fight with truth Sam!"

KINDA HARD TO TO THAT WHEN YOUR CANDIDATE OBAMA LIES SO MUCH...OOOPS I MEAN WHEN YOUR CANDIDATE OBAMA IS SO UNCLEAR ABOUT MANY THINGS.

LOL

Per the Urban Brookings Tax Policy Center:

"Compared to current law, TPC estimates the Obama plan would cut taxes by $2.9 trillion from 2009-2018.

McCain would reduce taxes by nearly $4.2 trillion.

These projections assume the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire in 2010 and that the Alternative Minimum Tax is fully effective. "

hmmmm

PORKY PALIN-

No but good pick up Australian born to American parents (raised in both countries)and working for a canadian American company (TD AMERICA TRADE) in Cali : )

Looks like the Republican mafia is putting the screws to some people aover Troopergate.

"This week, seven key witnesses informed Mr. Branchflower through their attorneys that they would not provide depositions. Their depositions, which had been agreed to and scheduled earlier with Mr. Branchflower, were cancelled within the last 72 hours."

Redstate as a source?

LOL.

What's next free republic?

Uh oh looks like the right wing noise machine got caught lying!

And about flags, have they no shame?

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PALIN'S EARMARKS AND OBAMA'S IS THAT

PALIN'S BENEFITTED HER STATE!

Many of Obama's... BENEFITTED THE OBAMAS.... AND THEIR ERSTWHILE CHURCH ...AND THEIR FRIENDS!

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Obama's... BENEFITTED THE OBAMAS.... AND THEIR ERSTWHILE CHURCH ...AND THEIR FRIENDS ?

Can you point them out eyeswideopen ?

I really wish you guys would stop the lies!

Moneyman--

Are you British? (honourable)

I agree with you though. I don't think McCain can win. He is trying to make it so it isn't about the issues. However, unfortunately for him, the economy is tanking hard core and he has nothing to offer but 4 more years of Bush.

In addition, Palin's favorability ratings will go down over the next few weeks (as always happens), and people will refocus on the issues at which point, McCain cannot win.

So let's see. When Ryan C lies about Obama's statements in Selma, gets caught, then defends himself by copying parts of the speech (deliberately leaving out Obama's claim that the Selma March caused his conception), gets caught again, he just made a simple "mistake". When Ryan C makes many statements claiming Sarah Palin "lied" about her Ebay comment (which she didn't), and gets caught, those posts conveniently get lose down the memory-hole.

When I, however, use a little rhetorical hyperbole (just like in Obama's memoirs that his 'bots like to cite as fact), I'm somehow a liar.

Michelle Obama probably got her $300k raise because she probably secured the $42M NIH grant for that patient-dumping Urban Health Initiative with the help of her husband.

Samantha,

He didnt lie! He just wasnt clear about it!

Admiting you lied is more honourable not or in your case lying more.

Fight with truth Sam!

Republicans have crewed this country its time for change Obama 08

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PALIN'S EARMARKS AND OBAMA'S IS THAT

PALIN'S BENEFITTED HER STATE!

Many of Obama's... BENEFITTED THE OBAMAS.... AND THEIR ERSTWHILE CHURCH ...AND THEIR FRIENDS!

"Can you cite where he "questions earmarks and pork"? "

Mr. Teflon vest doesn't HAVE to!

He has his BLOGGERS... .... do it for him,

That's how he's gotten this far.

But be careful who you wish for.....

Be very very careful

Palin is a liar thats why she wont faxe the media she is being trained ijn how to lie and cover up for the lies she has already told!

McCain wanted Lieberman "The Maverick" (Yeah right) was told )the daay before the anouncement) to pick Palin the day before and did as he was told.

I spent longer choosing my kitchen then mccain spent picking the person who could run this country!

Disgraceful !

95% of Americans will be better of under Obama, on average by at least $2000.

Alaska's well-known "Bridge to Nowhere" is among the most criticized federal earmarked projects, cancelled last year by the state's governor and John McCain's running mate, Sarah Palin. Palin, however, has brought home her own share of pork, according to an examination by Taxpayers for Common Sense that was reported in the Washington Post. During the four years she was mayor of the 6,700-resident town of Wasilla, Palin hired the Anchorage-based law firm Robertson, Monagle & Eastaugh to represent the small town on Capitol Hill. The result was nearly $27 million in federal earmarks in the final four years that Palin was mayor, including $1.9 million for a transportation hub, $900,000 for sewer repairs and $15 million for a rail project, the Post reported.

Despite her success in getting federal funds for Wasilla, McCain introduced Palin as his partner in fighting wasteful spending. Palin said that as governor, she "stood up to the old politics-as-usual, to the special interests, to the lobbyists, the big oil companies, and the good-ol'-boy network." The Alaska governor has been outspoken against Rep. Don Young and Sen. Ted Stevens, who was indicted in July on corruption charges, though the law firm she hired to bring in the earmarks has connections to both lawmakers.

Palin was mayor of Wasilla from 1996 until 2002 and the town spent $96,000 on lobbying from 2000 until 2002. Overall the town has spent $300,750 on lobbying since 2000. In the first six months of this year Wasilla has spent $20,250 on lobbying efforts, about half of what it spent altogether last year.

The very same two partisan hacks that were up in arms yesterday parsing the difference between "Put on Ebay" and "Sold on Ebay" (she got rid of it either way) and trying to defend the nuance between "requested earmarks" and "earmarks that were appropriated" (his intent was still corrupt, it was just so overt his puppet masters didn't appropriate it).

In her earlier political career as mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a private lobbyist to help the tiny town secure earmarks from Stevens, entering Washington's "pay to play" culture in which lobbyists, campaign contributions and lawmakers are intertwined.

The town obtained 14 earmarks, totaling $27 million between 2000-2003, according to data compiled by Taxpayers for Common Sense.

Federal lobbying records show that Wasilla hired the firm of Robertson, Monagle & Eastaugh in 2000 to arrange "funding of city projects." The signature on the registration form is that of Steven W. Silver, a former top aide to Stevens, who chaired the Senate Appropriations Committee on and off between 1997 and 2005.

The firm initially was paid $24,000 a year, an amount that increased to $36,000 in 2001. The firm has continued to work for the town government since Palin left as mayor in 2002. Silver gave $2,000 to Stevens' Northern Lights political action committee in 1999, according to federal records.

Stevens was indicted in July for failing to disclose $250,000 in gifts from VECO Corp., an Alaskan oil services company.

==You didn't defend the the fact that she didn't lie...==

I defended the truth. She didn't lie.

==...you spinned her lie.==

No, you spinned what actually happened.

The difference between Obama and Palin on earmarks is that Palin is running specifically as an anti-earmark crusader which is a flat-out lie as has been proven by her hiring of a federal lobbyist for her town of >7000, the many federal handouts she readily accepted as Governor and she being for the Bridge to Nowhere until it was politically imprudent - though she kept the money AND built the roads to nowhere because that money would have had to go back. So you have roads leading up to where the "Bridge to Nowhere" would have been, but no bridge.

Obama has accepted earmarks, but he's not running a campaign saying he's completely against earmarks - so the comparison holds no water and shouldn't even be made.

Samantha,

Obama has already explained the selma statement... so yawn !!

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Obamabot subtext: My candidate is honorable because when he lies about his past and commits a felony by sniffing cocaine at least he admits to it.

==I do find it incredibly odd that people who couldn't pick Barack Hussein Obama out of a lineup half a year ago...==

He was in a lineup!?

You didn't defend the the fact that she didn't lie, you spinned her lie.

ALL your postings and rantings do not eliminate the fact that Palin LIED on national TV about the money she is taking from taxpayers to support her do nothing projects.==

Except that she didn't lie.

==Someon, please defend the lie, please defend the lie.==

We've already defended the truth that she didn't lie.

==No you can't...==

Yes, we did.

==...so you spin the earmark and are digging for irrelevant crap because you have nothing to say.==

What a train wreck of a statement.

"I do find it incredibly odd that people who couldn't pick Barack Hussein Obama out of a lineup half a year ago, now support him with such devotion. It diminishes their credibility significantly. "

hmmmmmmm

Samantha,

Obama has already explained the selma statement... so yawn !!

SAYING YOU WERE BORN OUT OF A MOVEMENT DOESNT ACTUALLY MEAN YOU WERE BORN WHEN IT HAPPENED.

MY POLITICAL CONVICTIONS ( THE HATE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY) WAS BORN DURRING THE BUSH YEARS!

Biden, the Senator from MBNA running with Obama, the Senator from TUCC.

I'll pass.

Look at concerned runaway and change the subject.

ALL your postings and rantings do not eliminate the fact that Palin LIED on national TV about the money she is taking from taxpayers to support her do nothing projects.

Someon, please defend the lie, please defend the lie.

No you can't, so you spin the earmark and are digging for irrelevant crap because you have nothing to say.

JHW539--

Good point. When Obama voted yes for that FISA bill, I was ticked. My husband had all but decided to vote for Bob Barr after that. In fact, we did not contribute to Obama's campaign again until after Sarah Palin's speech. She fired us up alright. Her denigration of the work of community organizers prompted us to make a large donation to Obama that very night.

I do find it incredibly odd that people who couldn't pick Sarah Palin out of a lineup a week ago, now support her with such devotion. It diminishes their credibility significantly.

What's the difference between James Dobson and Sarah Palin? Lipstick.

John McCain doesn't call his earmarks, he just would give billions of tax paying dollars to BIG OIL as his campaign is controlled by Lobbyist who are lobbying for big oil companies.

Wrap it up how you want, that looks like an EARMARK to me.

Concerned in OH: "The facts and links are all over this board."

Still waiting for that link about how Obama attained pork for his family.

I'm not trying to convince you, but I get annoyed at the consistent lies and false innuendo you spout.

So many high cost projects haven been in the "think tanks and on the table since the 1970s when the Alyeska Pipeline was started. Alaskans and oil companies wanted to build a gas