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Web Site With Speeches and Sermons From Palin's Former Church Shuts Down as Religious Views of Candidate Face Scrutiny
September 03, 2008 12:38 PM
Officials of Gov. Sarah Palin's former church, Wasilla Assembly of God, in Alaska, shut down part of their Web site Wednesday, stating that their server could not handle the higher-than-normal traffic.
The part of the Web site no longer functioning appears to be the section where the sermons of senior Pastor Ed Kalnins were available, including one from 2004 -- after Palin left the church -- where he suggested heaven wasn't necessarily in the cards for anyone who voted for Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.
Also no longer available is the video of a speech Palin delivered in June at the graduation service for the church's School of Ministry.
"WasillaAG.net was never intended to handle the traffic it has received in the last few days," says a message on the church Web site. "Due to technical limitations, WasillaAG.net will be unavailable for the immediate future."
Palin attended Wasilla Assembly of God from her teenage years through 2002. She and her family now attend Wasilla Bible Church.
Srutiny of Palin, ever since she was named Sen. John McCain's vice presidential running mate last Friday, has brought attention to all aspects of her biography.
"We have had some inquires into Gov. Palin's beliefs," a statement from Wasilla Assembly of God reads. "We do know that Gov. Palin is a woman of integrity. She is a servant of the people, she is a strong leader. As for her personal beliefs, Gov. Palin is well able to speak for herself on those issues.
"As Alaskans, we are excited about our governor being selected as the nominee for vice president," the statement continues. "As residents of Wasilla, we are ecstatic about one of our own being thrust to the national forefront. However, as a church, it is not appropriate for us to endorse any one candidate over another."
The Book of First Timothy, the church says, "tells us pray for those in authority. This we will do, no matter who is elected. We wish the best to Gov. Palin, and Sen. McCain, as well as to Sen. Obama and Sen. Biden."
Some of the video of Palin speaking at the Wasilla Assembly of God commencement address was recently posted at the liberal Huffington Post.
The governor is shown speaking comfortably about her faith in Jesus Christ.
"It was so cool growing up in this church and getting saved here," the governor says, "getting baptized by Pastor (Paul) Riley."
Palin asked the congregation to "pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."
The Huffington Post described this as Palin "paint(ing) the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord," which McCain-Palin spokesman Michael Goldfarb calls "a distortion of what she was saying."
"She very clearly was saying that she's praying for military men and women to do what's right," Goldfarb says. "Every religious American prays that what the U.S. is doing in Iraq is something that is a righteous act."
Religious Americans regularly pray that acts they take are the correct, or righteous ones, Goldfarb said, arguing that was what Palin meant by her remarks.
Palin's current church has also undergone scrutiny.
The Politico's Ben Smith reported that Palin was present for an Aug. 17 sermon by David Brickner, an activist for the missionary group "Jews for Jesus," considered quite controversial among many American Jews. The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith has criticized Brickner for "targeting Jews for conversion with subterfuge and deception."
Brickner in his sermon described terrorist attacks on Israelis as part of "an ongoing reflection of the fact that there is judgment" by God of those who have not accepted Jesus as their savior.
"When Jesus was standing in that temple, He spoke that that judgment was coming, that there's a reality to the judgment of unbelief. ... Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It's very real."
Brickner described when his son Isaac recently "was in Jerusalem, he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment -- you can't miss it. "
Goldfarb said that Brickner "was a guest at the church, who Gov. Palin did not know would be speaking, and she does not share the views he expressed. She and her family would not have been sitting in the pews of the church if those remarks were remotely typical."
Earlier this year, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., went through some tough questions about his now-former church, Trinity United Church of Christ, and his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who made many controversial comments from his pulpit. Faced with intense scrutiny of his church, pastor, and those offering guest sermons, Obama resigned from his church at the end of May.
"If the Obama campaign wants to have a debate about who was in church for what sermon," Goldfarb told ABC News, "that's not an argument we're going to shy away from."
-- jpt
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Help me understand this. We have "hocky moms" who want someone LIKE THEMSELVES potentially running the country? I'm a working woman with a lot more management and international relations experience than Ms. Palin... and I don't want someone like ME running for office, because I'm not even remotely qualified! Do they choose their surgeons, dentists, financial advisors, car mechanics, or anyone else purely on the basis of "they're someone like me?" What a total double standard. Women, PLEASE demonstrate that "hockey mom" doesn't equal low IQ. You're making other women look bad.
Posted by: Sue | Sep 11, 2008 6:29:11 AM
Matt,
It's the book of "Revelation" not revelations. I see that many people don't look at the fine details and intend to bad mouth others who don't share their same beliefs. For instance, you stated that all "reborns" (I am assuming you are talking about born-again Christians) should move to Alaska. Would you say something like, "All black people should move to Africa?" I am seeing discrimination abound in the U.S. culture and it is targeting neither race nor gender. It is targeting Christians. I think that, if you would do your own research, you would find that in order for a comment to be true, it must be 100% accurate. It cannot be 90% truth and 10% lies. This culture is built on the 10% truth and 90% hearsay philosophy. You fail to investigate to find the truth, and you have instead settled for accepting 2nd hand words that have been distorted which essentially amount to a lack of ultimate truth. Yes, truth is out there and if you find it, you have found something more important than the lies that many live by. I will just give you the truth. You don't have to look this up, but if you desire to be an intelligent creature, you can be my guest. Proverbs 14:12 And, again, if you would like to speak about the Bible or "reborns" or whatever you may fancy, research and investigate the origin not the messenger. Then you may speak about such, but as it stands many people who go by another's knowledge and another's opinion begin to call themselves experts. And from them comes your lack of truth. Yes, from the "so-called" experts. Hardly intelligent.
Posted by: Michael O'Brien | Sep 10, 2008 5:09:34 PM
Do you think Charlie Gibson will bring this issue up? Hell no, he is going to lob her softballs as if he was back on Good Morning America. I cant tell you ABC's interview with Sarah Palin will be a lobsided joke.
Posted by: latinovoter1 | Sep 9, 2008 12:25:45 AM
I've been to an Assembly of God/Pentecostal church and I too am a Christian. I do not, however, speak in tongues, something quite common in these circles of churches. I've been made to feel spiritually inferior as I do not possess this particular gift.
I do believe the gifts of healing and miracles rank right up there with tongues. While I do believe in the healing power of God and have personally witnessed such, I do not believe certain men in this day and age are given these abilities. Miracles, such as raising someone from the dead, were performed by Jesus as well as at least one apostle. When was the last time someone was raised from the dead by someone possessing this particular spiritual gift?
Goto and get a clear understanding of spiritual gifts.
Posted by: johnnie visoky | Sep 8, 2008 10:54:16 PM
I’m a Jewish believer in Jesus. You have quoted just two paragraphs of the six-page transcript of David Brickner’s message, giving the false impression that he is saying that a bulldozer attack by a deranged Palestinian is God’s judgment on the Jewish people.
Among other things, Brickner says, “My mother always told me, ‘Be careful when you point a finger at somebody else, because there’s some pointing back at you.’ And really, Israel has not cornered the market on unbelief. Israel is an example of what all humanity has been saying to God since the beginning of time, shaking its fists at the heavens and saying, ‘You’ll not rule over us.’ And so all of the controversy that we see swirling in Jerusalem is really a mirror that the world looks in to see the controversy within . . . . It’s the dilemma of the human heart.”
Brickner is saying that without forgiveness of sins, which he (and I) believe only comes through Jesus’ sacrificial death for us, there will be judgment – not just for Jews, but for all mankind.
Posted by: Matt | Sep 8, 2008 5:25:15 PM
I agree with Todd. All the reborns need to move to Alaska. Then Alaska can secede and then the republican administration will invade it for oil interests (except the administration will call it "National Security Interests"). Geez, Palin doesn't know the difference between foreign policy and the book of revelations. Absolutely frightening.
Posted by: Paul | Sep 7, 2008 11:32:23 PM
Interesting that no journalist I know bothered to report that content was taken off Rev. Wright's church's Web site. I went to that site right after reports of his sermons leaked to see for myself what he and his church were about. I saw questionable content there I couldn't find weeks later. DOUBLE STANDARD as usual.
Posted by: Coco | Sep 4, 2008 5:36:06 PM
What a creative article on Palin! It's so hard to find a media outlet that isn't trying and stretching so hard to discredit her. It's obvious the media hates women, they threw Hilary under the bus now it's Palin.....Just a though
Posted by: repinla | Sep 4, 2008 5:34:41 PM
I don't like how Palin is using her special needs infant as a reason why we should put her on a pedestal. I know people with special needs children who are now adults and the stress and heartache it puts on a family- especially elderly parents of disabled adults.
Everyone loves babies, but when it come to special needs adults- they get thrown under the bus.
My friends down's syndrome adult daughter was placed in a group home to give her some independence in a safe setting. She was not monitored well enough and ended up pregnant by a down's syndrome male. It was heartache for her parents to deal with this. These types of issues don't get aired in "pro-life family politics." It's absolute heart-wrenching.
Posted by: Mrs. D | Sep 4, 2008 3:44:36 PM
It is about time the real people of America are being represented! So long have we waited for "one of us" to be in office. It is just a shame it took so long. Hurray for Hockey Mom's that still believe in God and go to church! I myself am a football/baseball mom.... and I know who I'll be voting for this Fall.
Posted by: Jeri | Sep 4, 2008 2:14:56 PM
Lessons: It is okay to have a crazy minister, unwed teen paraded proudly in front of all your children and suspicious activities surrounding you as long as your are a republican. If you are a democrat then it is not so okay.
Posted by: YOLAMAR | Sep 4, 2008 1:48:25 PM
It's amazing how quickly Rove wrote this speech! He's so busy now days with Fox news and his smear tour that finding the time must be a stretch..It must be a new mixture of the KoolAide supplement!
IF this dweeb from AK has a clue, a SINGLE clue, what shes getting herself into with the likes of the Republican smear machine she'll run away as fast as she can...or be eaten alive and tossed aside like the rest of the non-insiders.
She has no plan, no experience in world affairs, no plan other than Newt's on energy, no plan for education other than what Dobson tells her, no plan on health care, and no plan to re-build the country's infrastructure. IF the republicans want to run on the issues rather than a beauty contest the game is over, but the media still seems to be dwelling on the money teet where they're comfortable with no accountability.
If anyone looks past the smoke and mirrors and thinks of the implications these lunatics can have over our lives for generations, maybe centuries by appointing three judges on the Supreme Court to overturn most of laws from the last 50-80 years then they may think twice. But Rove is counting on everyone loosing sight of that small issue.
VERY dangerous folks.....
Posted by: RB-Chicago | Sep 4, 2008 9:34:15 AM
'Book of First Timothy'? What on earth...
That would be, actually, the First Epistle to Timothy, for anyone with a little theological knowledge.
Here are some more quotes from I Timothy:
"2.11. Woman, learn in silence, in complete submission."
"2.12. I do not permit a woman to teach, nor to reign over a man, but to remain in silence."
"3.2 ...the leader must be a blameless man, the husband of one wife."
Perhaps this was a coded message!
Posted by: strinph | Sep 4, 2008 8:47:36 AM
It is time to purge this evangelical crap out of our government for good.
I wonder, these conservatives like to paint anyone they don't like as a "Liberal"... gosh I am so sick of hearing them taunt with that.
I wonder if they realize that "Evangelical" has come to carry the same meaning that they have now attached to "Liberal".
So. To all you Evangelicals, get a new hobby or something! We need much less of you in our government and our way of life.
Posted by: Todd | Sep 4, 2008 8:47:28 AM
Anyone upset about that video needs to sit down and think about things. That older pastor was obviously a kind old fellow, almost got teared up. And by some of the posts left here, I can see why people might seek refuge in Alaska.
We should pray for all number of things, including right conduct by our armed forces protecting us, and to be agents of God's plan for our nation, and to be aided in apprehending that will truly.
Posted by: bob | Sep 4, 2008 6:40:36 AM
I watched the Palin video in which she addressed the graduating class of her church's School of Ministry. In it Palin says several times that Alaska will be a refuge and that they all have to prepare for Alaska to be a refuge. Is Palin speaking of the Apocalypse? The "Rapture"? The time when Jesus Christ returns to the earth and the world ends? The time when Christians go to heaven and the nonbelievers go to hell? I hope someone who knows about these things would have a look at the video and tell us if this is, indeed, what she is saying.
Posted by: daisy jones | Sep 4, 2008 2:23:30 AM
Everybody should watch the video of Palin speaking extemporaneously to the church youth group, to get an idea of what she's really like without a prepared speech and a teleprompter.
Hint: airhead territory.
Posted by: zuzu's petals | Sep 4, 2008 2:21:05 AM
Sarah Palin was an EXCELLENT pick for VP, and will do an outstanding job. Thank you, leftwing nutjob media for fueling the backlash of 'flyover' America. We're getting a bit of tired of being told we are 'bitter' and ignorant and unable to do anything---when in fact we are the heart and soul of this great nation. The tale will be told in full on November 4th.
Search on, leftwing media...but I guarantee you that you will NOT find Palin assiocating with a church or a 'pastor' that is an anti-american racist. No Rev. Wrights will be found in her closet.
Obama is a zero.
Posted by: TSimon | Sep 4, 2008 1:33:19 AM
So last Saturday morning, I really felt sick. I thought, this is so crazy...how could McCain pick this woman? Doesn't he understand that she's basically running for president (especially because he is so old and has serious health problems)? Americans and people all over the world are concerned about security and nuclear weapons. Barack Obama has made a case for himself for nearly two years. We have gotten to know him (I have met him personally) and he is truly a good human being who wants to improve our country and our relations with other nations. I have absolute confidence that he will use sound judgement and do what is in the best interest of our country and even the global community. Sarah Palin is a joke and even MANY Republicans know it.
If I were a Republican now (I usde to be a registered Republican), I would be furious with John McCain and his campaign. This is an embarassing decision and there's no way out for him. She will resign by the end of this week, but the damage is done. John McCain has proven that he makes poor decisions that could jepordize our national security. McCain/Palin - what a sad joke.
Posted by: Bethany | Sep 4, 2008 1:10:58 AM
Sara Palin is just the gift that keeps on giving, and giving, and giving. She's like a broken faucet, and all you hear is drip, drip, drip here comes another controversy. This is really good stuff. Keep it coming. The media should not punk out and back off this story like they always do when they get criticized even though they are doing there jobs. Barack Obama was put through the grinder, so was Hillary Clinton. Any individual who stands to be a heartbeat away, or who stands to be the President of the United States has to have the press rummaged through their life. If this person and her husband are members of a party (the Alaskan Independence Party) that want to secede from the Union the public needs to know, if this person abuses her power of office, the public needs to know, if this person believes that the war in Iraq is a war on God's behalf, the public needs to know. Hey Media grow a spine, stop slithering at the first sign of criticism - Your job is to expose the truth about all those who seek elected office who will have tremendous impact on the lives of all Americans. Media grow a spine and post this, unless we live in Russia now!
Posted by: kojipham | Sep 4, 2008 12:51:07 AM
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