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Help me understand this. We have "hocky moms" who want someone LIKE THEMSELVES potentially running the country? I'm a working woman with a lot more management and international relations experience than Ms. Palin... and I don't want someone like ME running for office, because I'm not even remotely qualified! Do they choose their surgeons, dentists, financial advisors, car mechanics, or anyone else purely on the basis of "they're someone like me?" What a total double standard. Women, PLEASE demonstrate that "hockey mom" doesn't equal low IQ. You're making other women look bad.

Matt,
It's the book of "Revelation" not revelations. I see that many people don't look at the fine details and intend to bad mouth others who don't share their same beliefs. For instance, you stated that all "reborns" (I am assuming you are talking about born-again Christians) should move to Alaska. Would you say something like, "All black people should move to Africa?" I am seeing discrimination abound in the U.S. culture and it is targeting neither race nor gender. It is targeting Christians. I think that, if you would do your own research, you would find that in order for a comment to be true, it must be 100% accurate. It cannot be 90% truth and 10% lies. This culture is built on the 10% truth and 90% hearsay philosophy. You fail to investigate to find the truth, and you have instead settled for accepting 2nd hand words that have been distorted which essentially amount to a lack of ultimate truth. Yes, truth is out there and if you find it, you have found something more important than the lies that many live by. I will just give you the truth. You don't have to look this up, but if you desire to be an intelligent creature, you can be my guest. Proverbs 14:12 And, again, if you would like to speak about the Bible or "reborns" or whatever you may fancy, research and investigate the origin not the messenger. Then you may speak about such, but as it stands many people who go by another's knowledge and another's opinion begin to call themselves experts. And from them comes your lack of truth. Yes, from the "so-called" experts. Hardly intelligent.

Do you think Charlie Gibson will bring this issue up? Hell no, he is going to lob her softballs as if he was back on Good Morning America. I cant tell you ABC's interview with Sarah Palin will be a lobsided joke.

I've been to an Assembly of God/Pentecostal church and I too am a Christian. I do not, however, speak in tongues, something quite common in these circles of churches. I've been made to feel spiritually inferior as I do not possess this particular gift.

I do believe the gifts of healing and miracles rank right up there with tongues. While I do believe in the healing power of God and have personally witnessed such, I do not believe certain men in this day and age are given these abilities. Miracles, such as raising someone from the dead, were performed by Jesus as well as at least one apostle. When was the last time someone was raised from the dead by someone possessing this particular spiritual gift?

Goto and get a clear understanding of spiritual gifts.

I’m a Jewish believer in Jesus. You have quoted just two paragraphs of the six-page transcript of David Brickner’s message, giving the false impression that he is saying that a bulldozer attack by a deranged Palestinian is God’s judgment on the Jewish people.

Among other things, Brickner says, “My mother always told me, ‘Be careful when you point a finger at somebody else, because there’s some pointing back at you.’ And really, Israel has not cornered the market on unbelief. Israel is an example of what all humanity has been saying to God since the beginning of time, shaking its fists at the heavens and saying, ‘You’ll not rule over us.’ And so all of the controversy that we see swirling in Jerusalem is really a mirror that the world looks in to see the controversy within . . . . It’s the dilemma of the human heart.”

Brickner is saying that without forgiveness of sins, which he (and I) believe only comes through Jesus’ sacrificial death for us, there will be judgment – not just for Jews, but for all mankind.

I agree with Todd. All the reborns need to move to Alaska. Then Alaska can secede and then the republican administration will invade it for oil interests (except the administration will call it "National Security Interests"). Geez, Palin doesn't know the difference between foreign policy and the book of revelations. Absolutely frightening.

Interesting that no journalist I know bothered to report that content was taken off Rev. Wright's church's Web site. I went to that site right after reports of his sermons leaked to see for myself what he and his church were about. I saw questionable content there I couldn't find weeks later. DOUBLE STANDARD as usual.

What a creative article on Palin! It's so hard to find a media outlet that isn't trying and stretching so hard to discredit her. It's obvious the media hates women, they threw Hilary under the bus now it's Palin.....Just a though

I don't like how Palin is using her special needs infant as a reason why we should put her on a pedestal. I know people with special needs children who are now adults and the stress and heartache it puts on a family- especially elderly parents of disabled adults.

Everyone loves babies, but when it come to special needs adults- they get thrown under the bus.

My friends down's syndrome adult daughter was placed in a group home to give her some independence in a safe setting. She was not monitored well enough and ended up pregnant by a down's syndrome male. It was heartache for her parents to deal with this. These types of issues don't get aired in "pro-life family politics." It's absolute heart-wrenching.

It is about time the real people of America are being represented! So long have we waited for "one of us" to be in office. It is just a shame it took so long. Hurray for Hockey Mom's that still believe in God and go to church! I myself am a football/baseball mom.... and I know who I'll be voting for this Fall.

Lessons: It is okay to have a crazy minister, unwed teen paraded proudly in front of all your children and suspicious activities surrounding you as long as your are a republican. If you are a democrat then it is not so okay.

It's amazing how quickly Rove wrote this speech! He's so busy now days with Fox news and his smear tour that finding the time must be a stretch..It must be a new mixture of the KoolAide supplement!

IF this dweeb from AK has a clue, a SINGLE clue, what shes getting herself into with the likes of the Republican smear machine she'll run away as fast as she can...or be eaten alive and tossed aside like the rest of the non-insiders.

She has no plan, no experience in world affairs, no plan other than Newt's on energy, no plan for education other than what Dobson tells her, no plan on health care, and no plan to re-build the country's infrastructure. IF the republicans want to run on the issues rather than a beauty contest the game is over, but the media still seems to be dwelling on the money teet where they're comfortable with no accountability.

If anyone looks past the smoke and mirrors and thinks of the implications these lunatics can have over our lives for generations, maybe centuries by appointing three judges on the Supreme Court to overturn most of laws from the last 50-80 years then they may think twice. But Rove is counting on everyone loosing sight of that small issue.

VERY dangerous folks.....

'Book of First Timothy'? What on earth...

That would be, actually, the First Epistle to Timothy, for anyone with a little theological knowledge.

Here are some more quotes from I Timothy:

"2.11. Woman, learn in silence, in complete submission."

"2.12. I do not permit a woman to teach, nor to reign over a man, but to remain in silence."

"3.2 ...the leader must be a blameless man, the husband of one wife."

Perhaps this was a coded message!

It is time to purge this evangelical crap out of our government for good.

I wonder, these conservatives like to paint anyone they don't like as a "Liberal"... gosh I am so sick of hearing them taunt with that.

I wonder if they realize that "Evangelical" has come to carry the same meaning that they have now attached to "Liberal".

So. To all you Evangelicals, get a new hobby or something! We need much less of you in our government and our way of life.

Anyone upset about that video needs to sit down and think about things. That older pastor was obviously a kind old fellow, almost got teared up. And by some of the posts left here, I can see why people might seek refuge in Alaska.
We should pray for all number of things, including right conduct by our armed forces protecting us, and to be agents of God's plan for our nation, and to be aided in apprehending that will truly.

I watched the Palin video in which she addressed the graduating class of her church's School of Ministry. In it Palin says several times that Alaska will be a refuge and that they all have to prepare for Alaska to be a refuge. Is Palin speaking of the Apocalypse? The "Rapture"? The time when Jesus Christ returns to the earth and the world ends? The time when Christians go to heaven and the nonbelievers go to hell? I hope someone who knows about these things would have a look at the video and tell us if this is, indeed, what she is saying.

Everybody should watch the video of Palin speaking extemporaneously to the church youth group, to get an idea of what she's really like without a prepared speech and a teleprompter.

Hint: airhead territory.

Sarah Palin was an EXCELLENT pick for VP, and will do an outstanding job. Thank you, leftwing nutjob media for fueling the backlash of 'flyover' America. We're getting a bit of tired of being told we are 'bitter' and ignorant and unable to do anything---when in fact we are the heart and soul of this great nation. The tale will be told in full on November 4th.
Search on, leftwing media...but I guarantee you that you will NOT find Palin assiocating with a church or a 'pastor' that is an anti-american racist. No Rev. Wrights will be found in her closet.
Obama is a zero.

So last Saturday morning, I really felt sick. I thought, this is so crazy...how could McCain pick this woman? Doesn't he understand that she's basically running for president (especially because he is so old and has serious health problems)? Americans and people all over the world are concerned about security and nuclear weapons. Barack Obama has made a case for himself for nearly two years. We have gotten to know him (I have met him personally) and he is truly a good human being who wants to improve our country and our relations with other nations. I have absolute confidence that he will use sound judgement and do what is in the best interest of our country and even the global community. Sarah Palin is a joke and even MANY Republicans know it.

If I were a Republican now (I usde to be a registered Republican), I would be furious with John McCain and his campaign. This is an embarassing decision and there's no way out for him. She will resign by the end of this week, but the damage is done. John McCain has proven that he makes poor decisions that could jepordize our national security. McCain/Palin - what a sad joke.

Sara Palin is just the gift that keeps on giving, and giving, and giving. She's like a broken faucet, and all you hear is drip, drip, drip here comes another controversy. This is really good stuff. Keep it coming. The media should not punk out and back off this story like they always do when they get criticized even though they are doing there jobs. Barack Obama was put through the grinder, so was Hillary Clinton. Any individual who stands to be a heartbeat away, or who stands to be the President of the United States has to have the press rummaged through their life. If this person and her husband are members of a party (the Alaskan Independence Party) that want to secede from the Union the public needs to know, if this person abuses her power of office, the public needs to know, if this person believes that the war in Iraq is a war on God's behalf, the public needs to know. Hey Media grow a spine, stop slithering at the first sign of criticism - Your job is to expose the truth about all those who seek elected office who will have tremendous impact on the lives of all Americans. Media grow a spine and post this, unless we live in Russia now!

The Repubs are a bunch of hypocrits. You all criticized everything that Obama stood for and did. However, I don't think you want to go down the path of dirty laundry. Keating 5, does that ring a bell, how about a spouse admitting she was addicted to pain killers, the recent lie about mother theresa wanting them to adopt, Giddy who is far more of a terrorist than Ayers could ever be, now that Palin has joined the ticket, the AIP ... didn't they applaud timothy mcvie...face it, you all have put out bull about Obama for over a year and now you want the media and the american people to be sympathetic....you must be out of your mind.

Doesn't Palin support a group that is seeking Alaska's succession from the United States? Sounds pretty anti-American to me.

Doesn't Palin support a group that is seeking Alaska's succession from the United States? Sounds pretty anti-American to me.

Republicans turning our country into the laughing stock of the world again? I can't say I'm too surprised ...

Who said that "Obama is a leader sent from God" Nancy Pelosi

They need to wait 18 months before reporting any former church to be fair

OxyCon wrote:
"Seriously, this MUST be getting on some people's nerves down at McCain Central."
Actually, it's the panicky talking heads in the MSM that had a nerve struck dead on by Sarah Palin!

Sarah Palin's longtime pastor, Pastor Kalnins, said that "Jesus operated from a position of war mode."

Anyone who so blatantly misunderstands and misrepresents the words of Jesus is scary and deluded and dangerous.

And by the way, how many thousands of civilians, including children, have been killed in the Iraq war? Many Republicans think that's OK. But Jesus would not have been OK with that, no matter what.

Clearly McCain did not properly vet Palin. McCain is running a pretty incompetent campaign.

It's going to be a little harder now playing the Reverend Wright card after these comments come out and get scrutinized by the media.

Sarah Palin's daughter's pregnancy is "a private matter," we've been told. But ladies, if you get raped or are a victim of incest and become pregnant, Sarah Palin does not want that to be a private matter for you. She believes the government has the right to tell you exactly what to do.

Sarah Palin is going to make the decision for you -- you're having that baby. No exceptions. Even if your health or your life are threatened. Meanwhile, lay off her daughter's pregnancy... "That's a private matter."

We cannot judge Obama by what his church said while he was a member but we can judge by what her church said after she left. Just some more Liberal hypocracy!

Obama's ahead in the polls again --- woohoo!! And I'm not surprised. McCain's choice of VP has left a lot of people questioning his judgment. She seems like a really wonderful lady, it's true, but to put her in a position where she could be RUNNING THE COUNTRY if McCain croaks is just IRRESPONSIBLE.

He definitely did not put the country first with that choice, and we can all see it.

Does this mean that the Democrats are putting the Reverend Wright back on the table?

It sure sounds like it.

This is as tactically stupid as harping on the (now discredited) slur that Palin's 4 month old baby is really her daughter's child ("it's the time-line, people!) or hypocritically yammering about Palin’s 17 year old daughter getting pregnant outside of marriage ("We are only for 'family values' when it suits).

Dumb, Dumb, Dumb.

Those posting the lie that military members are giving 6-to-1 are posting B.S. on the order of "Baghdad Bob's" report on the defeat of American in the initial stages of Iraqi Freedom. I know, I'm around the military (Navy and Marines) every day. McCain is their man by about a 20-to-1 advantage.

I've never heard anything like this out of Jews for Jesus in general or out of David Brickner in particular. I would want to see confirmation of the alleged comments before believing that they have been reliably represented here. I have a suspicion that we are getting a whole lot of spin rather than fact.

What is one the site that is worse then we're doing Gods work in Iraq that's bad enough so can you imagine what their hiding by shutting it down !!!!!!

daniel n-

Using anecdotal evidence and/or lying about your multiple friends overseas doesn't quite measure up to responsible surveys. Troops deployed overseas have donated to Obama 6 to 1 when compared to McCain.

Since the money question came up when are we going to see her tax returns and where her charitable contributions (if any) go?

Palin tried to fire Wasilla's librarian because she wouldn't get rid of books in the library Palin said offended some residents.

Lots of things will have to be scrubbed about her and the Republicans don't have time. They should have googled her first.

Intraders are betting her nomination will be withdrawn. Just went from 12.7 to 14.2 in the last hour.

"Also, I've seen post that suggest that the military strongly supports Obama over McCain. This is the most idiotic thing I've heard. Every single one of my friends overseas supports McCain and the ones that I've asked this say that they know very few people in the military that support Obama. This seems to be McCain's strongest demographic. So please stop spreading lies and learn the facts."

Fact: Obama gets more political donations than McCain from military service personnel. In fact Ron Paul gets more donations from military service personnel than John mcCain

Your friend: not a fact.

"1. WMD was factual not alledged...ask the Kurds."

Yes in 1988(we have the receipts after all). In 2003, no WMD.

"2. Don't recall anyone alleging Iraq was involved in the 9/11 incident, only of harboring and allowing the training the terrorist who were."

Which was also not true. See FoxNews lied to you.

"3. After the "nth" time that Pres. Bush approached the UN for support, I don't believe any thinking adult held such hope."

I agree with that last line. The problem is FoxNews viewers were 4 times more likely to believe that we had world suppor tgoing in.

oh yeah, we know this story. Rant about where Obama went to school when he was five, his father's birth religion and other meaningless drivel - page after page after page of stupid mindless junk about whether Hawaii is part of the US. And now when you guys elect someone unusual and they get the same level of scrutiny, you're whining - oh its so unfair and why its even sexist!!! by golly. what wimps.

It's very interesting to know she felt like she should bless an Alaska group that want s to secede from the US - her husband was a member until recently.

It's very interesting to know all about her leadership style in Wasilla - that's where most of her executive experience is from. It's interesting to know all the details of her line item budget vetos.

And we aren't surprised by all her oil company work to collect a bigger share of windfall profits for Alaska's citizens. We DON"T think most states have the same budget luxury so NO we don't think her experience translates across the country.

Also, I've seen post that suggest that the military strongly supports Obama over McCain. This is the most idiotic thing I've heard. Every single one of my friends overseas supports McCain and the ones that I've asked this say that they know very few people in the military that support Obama. This seems to be McCain's strongest demographic. So please stop spreading lies and learn the facts.

Interesting when the tables turn, people decided to blame the media. I guess everyone supporting McBush hasn't realize that this woman and her husband were also memeber of the ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY which very "Country Second" and unpatriotic!

wow, if the media had spent 1/10 of this energy vetting Obama...

Leeta - you must be on my ticket, UNITEd States!! The issues won't go away once the election is over!!! All of these t.v. watchiing folks should try life in one of the five countries I've been to. hehehe. They'll be willing to vote for Paris Hilton, as we love to reward scandal - just to get back to the US and hate again!!

An avg. Chinese kid can speak English by 8th grade...these people can't even get their brains around the country's future!!!

Self-centered--Thank you for your kind words. You are correct, they do not take sides while in uniform. The president, whomever it may be, is their commander-in-chief. They do what is asked of them for their country whether they agree with it or not. That is what they signed up for. These liberals forget, unlike the socialist and communist countries, we have a volunteer military. They sign up for love of country.

Republicans despise access to information they want to control. So much for Net Neutrality. Just like Russia and China.

Gee, guess now one can't control what the preacher will say. Hmmm. And why didn't Palin just walk out when she heard those crazy words from that visiting preacher? At least Obama was proven not to be there for some of the incendiary stuff he said, so he wasn't there to have to walk out.

But between this and her belonging to a separatist movement that says they hate America and it's flag? Yeah. Karmically high-sterical.

I expect that Faux will play the videos of this preacher 24/7 as well, right? They'll talk about how it goes to Palin's judgement and McCain's for picking her without any real vetting, right? Oh yeah I forgot th "librul," media won't treat these the same.

Michelle only has herself to blame, everytime she opens her mouth stupid falls out. Her anti-American rhetoric got her in trouble. However, Palin's children are being attacked, that is different. Michelle is an adult and she opened herself wide-open for the criticism.

McCain hired Tucker Eskew because obviously he's good at his job.

"I don't see where it says Foxnews and Republicans are the only ones who believe this."

I never said there were the only ones.

I said they were 4 times more likely to believe it.

Seriously, your defense of Foxnews grows weaker when you deliberately misrepresent what I said.

Ryan C--I don't see where it says Foxnews and Republicans are the only ones who believe this.

Axlerod: "Barack, I want you to go out and say that family is off limits and no one should discuss Palin's daughter, I'm going to get our volunteers who blog to slander her and make up stuff and it will make you look lily white. You in?"

Obama: "Sounds like a great plan, she's a threat to our campaign and it will take the focus off of our sexism. While your at it Axelrod, make sure you tell the bloggers to keep pushing that if they don't vote for us their racist."

Axelrod: " Sounds good, Barry"

"Ryan C, where did you get your facts? I'm Republican, watch foxnews and I have never heard or believed any of that. "

I doubt FoxNews would tout a report that show they are misinforming viewers.

Google this

The Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland conducted a thorough study of public knowledge and attitudes about current events and the war on terrorism. Researchers found that the public’s mistaken impressions of three facets of U.S. foreign policy — discovery of alleged WMD in Iraq, alleged Iraqi involvement in 9/11, and international support for a U.S. invasion of Iraq — helped fuel support for the war.

"I don't know where you get your statistics"

The statistics are taken from FEC donations records vs your small little world of right wingers

Obama gets more money from servicemen and women than any Presidential candidates grabbing some 57% of the total money given to Prez candidates.

And that is when the GOP has received a majority of total political donations.

Obama also gets 6 times as much money as McCain from servicemen and women who were serving overseas at the time of their donation.

Even Ron Paul got more money from the military than John McCain.

I guess they don't like McCain's policy of wars based on lies.

Ryan C, where did you get your facts? I'm Republican, watch foxnews and I have never heard or believed any of that. Huffington post and daily Kos don not count as a reliable source.

I read nothing scandelous here. Was it objectionable for her to pray for our troops. Was it bad that the church said it wished both parties well. I guess I missed it. What exactly is in this article that some find objectionable about Palin?

So, does Palin claim the preach is like her uncle?

So Mack about those Obama surrogates going after Palin's daughter. Can you name them?

Or are you going to run away from the question like your candidate does?

CJCrane--I don't know where you get your statistics but we are a military family and my husbands base is pro-McCain. He is a war hero and they trust his judgement more than Obama, who has no experience with the military and was against the surge, which is working. We are winning in Iraq. You probably don't know that because liberals like you watch CNN, MSNBC and huffington post. The fact that Anbar region (most violent in Iraq, we lost over 1,000 men there) was a hotbed for terrorist and has now been handed over to the Iraq police wasn't even reported. The parade the iraqi's had to celebrate was peaceful and our soldiers were in it and did not even have to carry a weapon.

Our military thinks they have our support for the good deeds they are doing in Iraq and Afganistan and to come home to hear such slander against them is very hurtful to them. They know it's all coming from the liberal base. Overwhelmingly, they want to stay and finish the fine job they are doing there.

Rev. Wright's website was scrubbed long ago. I think JT reported it here, in fact.

Church #2: "God Damn America!"
Church #2: "God Bless Alaska!"

It's not too hard to figure out who went to this Church, is it?

I downloaded the entire catalog yesterday! LMAO

I don't recall Rev. Wright's church shutting down it's website during all the questions from the RNC.

How much more dirty laundry of Sarah Palin's will come out?
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The only dirty laundry Palin has is in her house----Obama's is too dirty to be laundered.

Well, "selfcentered", I'm not quite sure what your post means but I'm sure you'll be heartened to hear that those soldiers - US troops deployed overseas -are donating six times more cash to Obama than to McCain. (Next is Ron Paul who is also receiving more dontations from soldiers deployed overseas than McCain).

"The Internet Archive's Wayback Machine on"

Does your wayback machine show when was the last time that she attended? Otherwise, who cares?

How much more dirty laundry of Sarah Palin's will come out?

We have our first glimpse into how a McCain administration would operate…..

COVER IT UP AND BLAME EVERYONE OTHER THAN YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT AND DECISIONS.

The media is a little too gun shy to re-open the preacher issue.Obama's may actually end up costing him the White House and there will be hundreds of his media stooges having break downs as it is

I will only watch Foxnews because it's the only place you can get equal and fair coverage of the campaigns.
I'm not alone, because foxnews is consistently the number one news organization on cable. CNN and MSNBC's numbers are so low it's laughable, yet they still haven't caught on because they are still fawning over empty suit Obama. The joke will be on them in Nov.

It's about anything but issues. I don't care about anything in her life except what her positions are on taxes, the wars, privacy, etc. and what she plans to do if elected. Her personal life, that of her family, her religious convictions, her advisers - all NOT RELEVANT unless she chooses to make them so. Since she has publicly spoken out, for example, against sex education, it seems legitimate to ask her to explain why her daughter wasn't educated at home to teach her about how people get pregnant. Since, I have no doubt (although I don't know it for sure) has criticized Obama's church or his wife, she should expect nothing less about her issues. Republicans seem to think they can defame and smear without consequence. It's bad enough that their leader, the so-called president, has betrayed his oath of office. Now they're trying to convince us that the old guy they are running to replace him will change course and make things better - but wait, how can they perfect perfection? Oh, why bother. McCain's campaign manager said that the election (in his little mind) will not be about issues; it will be about personality. That's the real difference between Republics and Democrats. Democrats think that by working at it, government can help. Republics don't think government matters.

Hmm its funny.

Obama is ranked as the most liberal Senator for 2007 when he missed quite a few votes that are part of the review. He was not as liberal in 2006.

John McCain missed so many votes they did not even have enough to calculate his rating.

Who are these crazy people who are suggesting the media is on Obama's side? I stopped watching cable news after several weeks of non-stop Reverend Wright coverage.

Obama has taken the hits and now voters can make an informed choice. As Palin is new to the national stage she has to be thoroughly vetted by the media and the people too.

Liberals are finding themselves critical of Sarah.... a woman's choice to raise children and earn a living, calling it bad parenting. Maybe it is because the Dem's have no one like Sarah. Has anybody ever asked Barry can he bring up his two kids and be president of the United States? If Sarah was a Dem none of this would be an issue. Where are the Feminist? You can not have it both ways. Where are the Feminist? Stop the sexism

The media is out of control. I can wait a few days for Palin to speak and then make up my mind. The fact that she is not bowing down to the media seems to be upsetting the cart of good old boys. Watch out men, she'll fire you.
Posted by: Greg | Sep 3, 2008 1:52:20 PM

Painful has been hiding behind the pants of McSame an company. She is too chicken to face the media. Her speech would not be her own words, so it won't mean anything.

"The one in the center and who has always been there. He just looked left cuz you were right, and right to those who were left."

Ha! The most liberal senator. He's to the right of the socialist party.

You are right, we do deserve a candidate who tells the truth. Now, when can we expect those "non-nuanced" answers from Sen. Obama?

Posted by: IamID | Sep 3, 2008 4:06:31 PM

Never. Because "nuance" IS the truth. Short black and white lies are just easier and m