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A Different Member of the Keating 5 Introduces the Boss at Obama Rally
October 06, 2008 3:10 PM
"You don't get introduced by John Glenn every day," Bruce Springsteen said yesterday at an Obama get-out-the-vote rally at Ohio State University, as reported by the Columbus Dispatch.
Former Sen. John Glenn, D-Ohio, was -- along with Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. -- one of the Keating Five, the handful of senators who met with federal regulators to urge them to ease up on the savings and loan owned by contributor Charles Keating.
Hours after Glenn introduced the Boss at the Obama rally, the Obama campaign launched a campaign attacking McCain for his Keating Five activities. They made no mention of Mr. Glenn.
- jpt
October 6, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (168)
TRUTH: INNOCENT CIVILIANS INCLUDING WOMEN AND CHILDREN HAVE BEEN KILLED IN IRAQ! WAKE UP! THIS IS NOT A MADE UP STORY CREATED BY DEMOCRATS!
Posted by: T | Oct 9, 2008 5:42:22 PM
"Folks the Keating Five would not have been mentioned except Sarah Palin keeps trying to connect Obama to Ayers. That opens the door to look at McCain's past. Obama was a child when Ayers was protesting and as adult was on two committees with the man."
And Ayers helped launch Obama's campain at Ayers house. And Obama wrote a revue of Ayers book. But how was Obama supposed to know he was a terrorist?
McCain didn't know Keating was a crook until the meeting, and then he removed himself from it. Oh yeah....
"After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings, with Cranston receiving a formal reprimand. Senators John Glenn and John McCain WERE CLEARED of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment"."
Posted by: Steve | Oct 8, 2008 10:09:43 PM
Folks the Keating Five would not have been mentioned except Sarah Palin keeps trying to connect Obama to Ayers. That opens the door to look at McCain's past. Obama was a child when Ayers was protesting and as adult was on two committees with the man. Didn't make them friends. But, now the door to the past is opened the Republicans can't cry foul when McCain's past is raked up. McCain did get some regulation of S & L delayed, which helpled Keating. I don't think either man should get beat up about these issues from way in the past. But politicans have to remember DON'T OPEN DOOR AND EXPECT TO CONTROL WHAT / OR WHO WALKS THROUGH IT.
Posted by: Donna | Oct 8, 2008 8:04:01 AM
It is interesting that in his bio, John Glenn discusses the Keating scandal.
What Obama is not telling you is that as soon as they were advised that Keating was under investigation Glenn and McCain ceased any relationship with Keating and did not try to provide any other assistance. However, three high ranking democrats continued to help Keating .
Glenn, according to his words asked to be severed from the investigation since he had done nothing wrong. He was told by the committee chairmen that he had to stay because McCain was even less culpable and if they let Glenn go they would have to let McCain go and that would leave them with only Democrats.
Posted by: Steve | Oct 7, 2008 5:21:11 PM
How about Obama's bad judgement with training ACORN workers to wreck havoc on banks that didn't give home loans to those who couldn't afford it.
Posted by: Geez | Oct 7, 2008 10:08:12 AM
This is all just politics, and in politics (whether democrat or republican) you do whatever it takes to get the top job (i.e., president). My issue with this is that McCain did exercise poor judgment, but he's admitted that, was reprimanded, and has consistently said over the years that it was a mistake. There's also a suggestion by politicians, including Democrats, that he was included in the whole thing to make it look like it wasn't just Democrats, and that when the investigating group wanted to drop him from the charges because his part was negligible, the Democrat-controlled congress wouldn't let them because they didn't want it to look like it was only Democrats that were involved. Not surprisingly since the Democrats were as corrupt in the 1980s as the Republicans got in the past decade. What's interesting to me, though, is that I'd really like Obama to publicly apologise for his association with Ayers. He distances himself, but ironically doesn't seem to demonstrate the same repentance as McCain over the Keating 5. This bothers me a bit as it suggests real ego on Obama's part, which is not appealing.
Keating 5 is old news (Bush used it in 2000). Ayers is old news (Obama was a kid when that stuff happened). Both men perhaps exercised less than ideal judgment (depending on who you are and what you believe in), and so when I ask myself what matters for today and hopefully tomorrow, I'm left only with the question: what's the relevance? In my opinion, the relevance is: have these two men learned from previous mistakes? Can they admit shortcomings and correct for them? What does their RESPONSE say about their personality?
I'm a Democrat. I'll vote for Obama. And in any event, I've no doubt his administration and perhaps Obama himself will do plenty of dodgy things during their time as well
Posted by: e | Oct 7, 2008 9:22:11 AM
Desperate tactics. McCain / Palin are tearing down this country in a horrible grasp for power. They are trailing in the polls. Obama / Biden really did try to run a clean campaign, but they aren't going to be SWIFT BOATED.
Doesn't it bother anyone else that terms like SWIFT BOATED and WILLIE HORTON came from the dirty tricks of the past Republican campaigns?
I wish John McCain would listen to John McCain.
"Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don't have much of a vision for the future or you're not ready to articulate it." [John McCain - The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer - 2/21/2000]
Posted by: Patriot | Oct 7, 2008 8:49:46 AM
It was McCain who was the main guy fightning to protect Keating. McCain who was his close buddy, who used his jets, expensive vacation homes [yet worth $ 100 MILLION with Cindy ?!] ----- McCain has a long history of lies and distortion. Would you pick someone in the bottom quarter of their class to run your company? Because he would have loved to be "that good." ----- McCain was 895 of 899, just a hair above the very bottom!!! And even then he would have been kicked out except for his daddy admiral. ------ He "used" to be a maverick, compared to most Republican Robots! But being a cheerleader for this UNNECESSARY IRAQ WAR, voting with Bush 90%+ of the time, shows those days are long gone! ----- The Iraq War has NEARLY BANKRUPTED THE US !! $$$$$$$ ---- It will cost $ 3 Trillion, or $ 3,000 Billions by the time we pay off the "Chinese credit card." Same as if the Republicans BURNED DOWN EVERY AVERAGE HOME IN THE MIDWEST, FROM IOWA, MN. TO MICH. AND OHIO !!! ----- With that kind of "experience" he may be worse than Bush !
Posted by: Richard | Oct 7, 2008 3:46:02 AM
MODERATE WROTE:" It is quite ironic that the Obama camp thinks nothing of using John Glenn at a rally the day they launch an attack on McCain."
Truth? Actually these things mean little to me, but I am glad to see a miror held up to Senator McCain's face. Senator Glenn is a respected American Leader, and "Semper Fi" a most respected Marine Officer. We will always owe a debt to his bravery and service to our country. John McCain simarily has a great record of service that is honorable. All the stuff brought up is ancient history, people should and do move on... Mr Ayers has, as can be seen. In all this Barack Obama has done NOTHING to be ashamed of. Nothing dishonorable. Contributing directly to his commuinity is a service without ribbons or ranking, but nevertheless, selfless devotion to his neighbors, friends and country. So non of this reflect who any of these people truly are, except for the one person who put all the patriotic, civil and selfless service of Barack Obama down for not having ribbons and medals for doing his part for our country. Mr McCain would probably argue that Policemen are not worthy to be considered heroes if expediency demanded it. So, here is the problem, a war "hero" beciomes an apostle of politiacal expediency... thereby expending his political hero capital to replace it with being revealed to be a bumbling political hack, who is embarrassingly disengenuous in his approach to , racial baiting, McCarthyite inuendoes, and other unsavory techniques. I sometimes think that Senator McCain thinks the electorate is composed of 3 rd graders. Only the most unconscious voter fails to make the connection between being talked down to, and being reasoned with.
Posted by: Curtis | Oct 7, 2008 12:59:49 AM
GOSH, DIDNT JOHN MCCAIN ADMIT HIS TERRIBLE LACK OF JUDGMENT ? CONTRITE OR NOT, HE HAD A LAPSE, IN FACT, HE HAS LOTS OF LAPSES... FOLLOWING HIS PATTERN OF PIVOTING OPPORTUNISTIC EPISODES, ONE GETS A FEELING OF A CAMPAIGN WITH A COMPLETE LACK OF DIRECTION, NO STRATEGY AND A COMPLETELY ARROGANT DISREGARD FOR THE ATTENTION SPAN OF VOTERS. IF ONE FOLLOWS THE TRAIL OF MISCUES,TACTICAL MISCALCULATION AND BLUNDERS,IT IS APPARENT THAT THIS CAMPAIGN IS MISSING INTELLIGENCE, NO, NOT WHAT YOU THINK I AM SAYING,MAYBE NOT.... HE IS BLINDED SOMEHOW TO THE REAL DEVELOPMENTS TAKING PLACE IN THE WORLD....NO INFORMATION ! WHY? MAYBE IT IS DUE TO HIS STRICTLY IDEOLOGICAL VIEW. LOOKING AT THE WORLD WITH THE WRONG ANALYSIS IS JUST AS BAD AS HAVING BEEN LOBOTOMIZED ! IN HIS ATTEMPT AT MAKING HIS CAMPAIGN MIRROR THE CONSERVATIVE IDEAL;, AND FIT THAT VIEW INTO HIS WORLD VIEW, HE HAS BECOME UNREALISTIC IN TERMS OF POLICY, PRESENTATION, ETC. ONE EXAMPLE IS THE CANNED ,SCRIPTED RALLIES WE SEE NOW. i HEARD SARAH PALIN , IN ONE OF HER SPEECHES INTONE "DRILL BABY", WHICH HER CHEERING SECTION PROMPTLY TOOK UP... TERRIBLE STAGECRAFT AND DEVASTATINGLY REVELATORY OF THE EMPTINESS OF THIS POLITICAL CHARADE OF A CAMPAIGN.
Posted by: Curtis | Oct 7, 2008 12:37:36 AM
'If guilt by association is the game:
Why not accuse McCain of sympathizing with organized crime based on his long relationship with his father-in-law, the late Jim Hensley, a twice convicted felon who got his start in the beer business through shady dealings with organized crime figures.
Why not accuse McCain of plotting illegal partisan dirty tricks based on his ties to Gordon Liddy who was convicted in Water Gate scandal and who admitted plotting to murder Howard Hunt among others. Liddy calls McCain his friend and donated $5800 to him since 1998. McCain appeared recently on his radio show and said he admired his (Liddy's) principles. Liddy spent over four years in prison, but today has a radio show spewing poison to the lunatic fringe of the far right.
Why not accuse Sarah McCain of wanting to secede from the United States based on ties to the Alaskan Independence Party whose goal it is to secede from the United States? Her husband was a member for two years, she attended their convention and less than a year ago lauded the group in TV address to their convention....certainly a closer relationship than Obama's to'
Taken from a blogger on reuters, after reading these comments (ie. not my words) but they do raise some eyebrows, certainly with The JM camp now going for the 'terrorist via association' line with BO!...
Posted by: Dan Hall | Oct 6, 2008 11:41:47 PM
John Glenn is over-hyped as a former astronaut, but he has the self-knowledge to clean up his act after Keating-Five.
McCain has instead pushed for deregulation up and down Wall Street ever since. Calling himself a Mavericky doesn't change that. The old man hasn't learned his lesson and won't learn it before Nov 4.
Posted by: FLRepublican | Oct 6, 2008 9:10:57 PM
Please, Obamanites, you SEE the Kool-Aid. The glass is full. Just, drink it already, will ya?
Posted by: sybilll | Oct 6, 2008 9:06:45 PM
I agree, picking John Glenn may not have been the best move...but I think some of us are missing the forest for the trees. McCain was chastised for using bad judgment. Bad judgment is exactly the problem. The same bad judgment, which lead McCain to ask if Bin Laden is really such a bad guy in 1998. The same bad judgment that thinks the solution to lack of oversight is less regulation. The same bad judgment that picks a VP that can't name a periodical, or answer a direct question. Common, if Catie Couric takes you behind the woodshed; what happens when you meet with someone who's really hostile, e.g. Putin? There's a good chance he might use a big word or ask a basic question about American culture that a 3rd grader can answer? I digress....a long history of bad decisions. Should I mention Carol McCain (now that's family values)
Ask any football coach in the country. You'll get the same answer. You play like you practice. If your habit is to spew incoherent BS at the 1st sign of conflict, then that will be your reaction. On the other hand, if you practice doing the right thing (treating people with dignity, answering questions, conducting yourself with some integrity, as so forth) then that will be your natural reaction. That's why McBain hasn't been able to rattle Barrack. McCain will continue to fall on his face, flip flop, and whine about the media for the next 4 weeks. Then we get a break...bye bye Johnny Mac!!
Posted by: Common | Oct 6, 2008 9:03:43 PM
Did any of you hear McCain's speech today? It was great. He laid out the case for how we got into this financial mess, laying the blame at the feet of Democrats in the pocket of Freddie and Fannie. He made it crystal clear that he understands the enormity of the crisis and that he has the steady vision to lead us through it. Meanwhile, Obama saunters out from debate prep to make a short statement trying to convince everyone that McCain was ignoring the financial crisis to launch character attacks. Obama's Keating Five documentary is not a character attack as well? Puh-leeze. Obama was ignoring McCain's well-reasoned argument that Obama was implicated because of the massive amounts of money he took from Fannie and Freddie since becoming a senator-- enough to be the second-largest recipient of campaign funds from them after Chris Dodd, who's been on the take for Fannie and Freddie since back before the flood. Get real.
Posted by: GetReal | Oct 6, 2008 8:37:19 PM
Well, I'm going to ignore the rantings of the lunatic fringe and actually address the point of Mr. Tapper's post. You, sir, are the master of understatement. It is quite ironic that the Obama camp thinks nothing of using John Glenn at a rally the day they launch an attack on McCain. But then, I am continuously reminded that they are fairly tone-deaf. McCain was exonerated of wrong-doing in the Keating affair but chastised for showing bad judgment. He learned from that mistake and spoke openly and extensively about the mistakes he made. In fact, the Keating 5 affair was instrumental in developing McCain the crusading reformer we have today. He has written about the incident and the lessons he learned. He has been open and painfully honest. He is, I would argue, in a strong position to be able to talk about the importance of the company a politician keeps. He has learned from his bad judgment. Obama won't even admit to any of his own mistakes. He stubbornly refuses to admit it shows bad judgment to be involved with Ayers or Rezko. He repudiates Rev. Wright once Wright dissed him in public, but still shows no remorse for having spent all those years in the man's church. It reminds me of the way he sorta comes around to admitting the surge worked in Iraq but stubbornly refuses to say that in hindsight, he should have voted for it. I am more comfortable with the judgment and attitude of John McCain as a national leader. Maybe, if Obama learns from his lapses in judgment as McCain did, someday he could be president. But he is not ready yet. John McCain is.
Posted by: Moderate | Oct 6, 2008 8:30:07 PM
"Yes being able to answer questions the 2nd time they are asked instead of blanking staring into the camera and hitting one's talking points no matter the question in a debate shows she is a quick study."
Which means you can't respond to the fact that Palin is more prepared to be President than Obama is. Obama is no longer a blank slate. We know what he is now and it ain't pretty.
"ROFLMAO"
Great. You will have a lot less A. That should help you socialize better.
Posted by: len | Oct 6, 2008 8:21:44 PM
At war the first casualty is the truth. At this electoral race the truth has been killed by McCain/Palin and the Republicans
Posted by: republicans nomore | Oct 6, 2008 7:45:13 PM
40 Years ago we were in Vietnam. Baby Boomers went thru that war and all our friends just out of highschool were drafted and killed. But that is OLD NEWS. MCCain-Prissy Palin are living in that ERA. Economics are all we're concerned with right now. Every penny we've saved is going down the drain after 8 years of Bush/McSame. Keating Five; we went thru , just like the CEO's today and McCain economics haven't changed at all. Look at Phil Graham and his connection to Tom Delay, Rove, Chaney and the whole bunch. You need to be scared of PALIN. My vote definately goes to OBAMA/BIDEN. Intelligence is what we need. If you believe the smears and ignorance Palin is preaching, May God help you..
Posted by: fadedutopia | Oct 6, 2008 7:39:31 PM
dassis,
PUMA is an acronym for "sore loser". It litterally stands for Party Unity My Ass. Which was an apparent attempt to bully Obama in to picking a NY senator as his running mate. Of course, it was about as effective as the swift boat tactics from the Arizona Senator.
Help is on the way.
The 2 SNL characters, Grumpy Old Man & The Church Lady, are on there way out. I thought Carvey played them better anyway.
Posted by: NC for obama | Oct 6, 2008 6:47:02 PM
Palin is a Jackal. Campaigning in Florida, she DID NOT stop the crowd from chanting "KILL HIM".
Kudos, Senator Glenn for having the decency to stand up to the racists in this nation and recognize Barack Obama as a leader.
Posted by: Sue M Vet for Obama | Oct 6, 2008 6:27:39 PM
Jill, you are correct. And I may have misinterpreted Faulty Logic's comment. Al Gore did have more votes nationally. But that is irrelevant. The winner is determined by who garners the most Electoral Votes--as outlined in the U. S. Constitution.
Posted by: James Danley | Oct 6, 2008 6:17:33 PM
Look at a map of the 2004 election. Did you ever stop to think that maybe the reason why so many middle class people in the “blue” states are hurting economically is not because of George Bush’s policies but because those states are already following Senator Obama’s socialist, pro-union, anti-business, tax and spent policies that he wants to force upon the whole country?
Posted by: professorj | Oct 6, 2008 6:14:35 PM
This all just look like last minute desperation from the Republicans. They are giving their death throws right now. It just cements the Obama victory. As long we stay vigilant the Democrats will prevail and the more the Mc Cain camp throws mud the more others make a landslide possible. Landslide is the objective now not just winning.
Posted by: Chris | Oct 6, 2008 6:13:45 PM
Who or what is P U M A... I can't figure out the acronym? I never heard of this group until a person (or persons) was posting all over Tapper's other post yesterday.
Answer, please...
thanks
Posted by: dassis | Oct 6, 2008 6:12:40 PM
Bruce hasn't been connected to the blue collar working man since the 70's. Now, he's just like every other clueless, elite celeb.
Posted by: Mack | Oct 6, 2008 6:10:26 PM
I guess having John Glenn introduce is ok.. I mean both he and John McCain recieved the same punishment regarding the Keating 5 scandal..
Hmmmm I guess Keating 5 is ok as long as its a democrat. How conveniant he hits McCain on it, but doesnt say anything about Glen..
Posted by: Patti | Oct 6, 2008 6:09:40 PM
God help us if this election is as close as 2000 and ends up in the courts. The Obama cultists will riot and burn down our cities. Uh, make that their cities. In the red states not so much because we are still clinging to our guns and Bibles.
Posted by: professorj | Oct 6, 2008 6:06:06 PM
Recent economic situation is manna from heaven for BO, but these polls numbers are probably being diddled by BO supporters too. Polls are nothing until voters get in the booth. I'm hoping the young kids feel their guy is in and don't turn out....too hard to put down that beer bottle in the dorm.
I will personally work at raising the voting age to 21 for any student living under mommy and daddy and not supporting themselves. If you have a job or are in the service voting allowed....BUT NO ONE UNDER THE AGE OF 21 AND BEING KEPT BY MOMMY AND DADDY AT SCHOOL OR OTHERWISE ALLOWED TO VOTE...HELL I MIGHT AS WELL LET MY 14 YEAR OLD VOTE, BUT SHE KNOWS BETTER, AND IS NOT DRINKING THE KOOL AID, AND IS ALL FOR McCAIN/PALIN.
Posted by: hanna | Oct 6, 2008 6:04:29 PM
John Glenn didn't go to jail. He didn't take money from Charles Keating, or invest in Keating's real estate ventures. Or vacation with Keating in Barbados - nine times.
Keating went to jail with his buddies, Michael Milken and Ivan Boesky, world-class financial pirates.
McCain ran interference for them in Congress, stalling the regulators, stalling legislation for regulation.
Posted by: fougasseu | Oct 6, 2008 6:04:18 PM
Let's not forget that Sarah palin's husband belonged to a group called AIP, whose objective is to separate Alaska from the USA.
It is Sarah Palin's family who hates America, and wanted Alaska to seperate from the USA, for Alaska to have nothing to do with the USA.
Posted by: rose | Oct 6, 2008 6:03:39 PM
In Sarah Palin's church, while Sarah Plain was sitting in church, pastors have preached that Jews deserve being attacked in Israel, that it was God's punishment for them for being Christians.
Less than two weeks before Palin was chosen as John McCain's running mate, she sat in the congregation at Wasilla Bible Church as David Brickner, executive director of Jews for Jesus, suggested that violence in Israel was part of God's judgment on non-Christians. THIS IS WHAT HE SAID: "But what we see in Israel the conflict that is spilled out throughout the Middle East ... is an ongoing reflection of the fact that there is judgment. … When Jesus was standing in the temple, he spoke that that judgment was coming, that there's a reality to the judgment of unbelief."
SARAH PALIN at one time at her church even joined a pastor on stage who had preached negatively about "Israelite" control of the financial sector.
Posted by: Anna | Oct 6, 2008 6:02:29 PM
As a Republican I have to admit that I'm somewhat disappointed in Senator McCain’s VP choice. Although Governor Palin is “articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking” lady "that gives a great speech" clearly she is not yet prepared to be President of the United States. It really scares me to think that we might end up with someone with so little experience running the country. Unfortunately I don’t think either John McCain or Joe Biden selected a qualified running mate.
However Sarah Palin is not running for President. John McCain is and he has over forty years of honorable service to our country. Four years ago Barack Obama was an Illinois state senator and Sarah Palin was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska. The mere fact that Barack Obama has to defend his experience against Sarah Palin should make everyone realize that neither of them is currently qualified to be President of the United States.
Posted by: professorj | Oct 6, 2008 5:57:27 PM
"After this election, Americans will have the least experienced, least qualified, least prepared president in living memory if the Republican candidate is elected and has a heart attack or if the Democratic candidate is elected and does not."
Posted by: ryan c | Oct 6, 2008 5:14:15 PM
Well said. I'm afraid neither Senator McCain or Senator Biden actually chose a qualified running mate this election.
Posted by: professorj | Oct 6, 2008 5:54:27 PM
re: Springsteen's "Born in the USA" takes on a new meaning.
Obama was born in the state of Hawaii.
McCain was born in Panama.
- - -
Imagine, if you will, a Democrat in claiming the roots of McCain are radical in comparison to Barack Hussein Obama because McCain was born in a Naval Hospital to a father who dedicated his life to serving and protecting our country.
Really? Is that really possible to make that argument with a straight face?
Posted by: ryan c | Oct 6, 2008 5:48:07 PM
"Faulty Logic, you are absolutely wrong. Several news organizations conducted their own recount and found that George W. Bush ended up with more votes than Al Gore in Florida in 2000."
Actually, I think Gore won the nation wide popular vote in 2000, but who cares at this point?
Posted by: Jill | Oct 6, 2008 5:47:10 PM
While the Republican Party is pushing the Federal Election Commission to investigate the possibility that Democrat Barack Obama collected excessive contributions, its own candidate is facing scrutiny on the same subject.
The FEC sent a letter to Sen. John McCain's campaign treasurer Sept. 30 demanding the candidate turn over more information about "contributions that appear to exceed the limits."
The letter is accompanied by a nine-page list showing scores of overages from McCain's August campaign finance report, including nearly $13,000 from Texas rancher Ray R. Barrett Jr.; $9,200 from an Iraqi security consultant, H. Carter Andress; and $5,000 from Joseph F. Davolio, an executive at a major national liquor, beer, and wine distributor.
"Please inform the Commission of your corrective action immediately in writing and provide photocopies of any refund checks and/or letters reattributing or redesignating the contributions in question," the letter from the FEC's senior campaign finance analyst, Leah S. Palmer, says. "The acceptance of excessive contributions is a serious problem."
Posted by: Debbie | Oct 6, 2008 5:44:04 PM
Yes Ryan, I see your point.
My spelling is just like McCain's judgement.
Completely wrong
Posted by: Words of a "Maverick" | Oct 6, 2008 5:43:10 PM
Faulty Logic, you are absolutely wrong. Several news organizations conducted their own recount and found that George W. Bush ended up with more votes than Al Gore in Florida in 2000.
Posted by: James Danley | Oct 6, 2008 5:42:10 PM
Springsteen's "Born in the USA" takes on a new meaning.
Obama was born in the state of Hawaii.
McCain was born in Panama.
The natural US citizen law written after his birth was not meant to exclude him as a potential candidate for President but it is so poorly worded (like the one that allowed Cheney to get away with treason for outing a covert CIA agent) for births dated that far back that his fellow Senate members decided they needed to pass a non-binding Senate Bill in support of his efforts to run for President, just in case the issue got all the way to the courts. Nice to have friends in the Senate or the US Supreme Court (right Mr. President).
Posted by: 2erudite4u | Oct 6, 2008 5:41:58 PM
PUMA?
Raaaw, Grooowl, Rooooar
Can I be a puma. Awe, good kitty. I want to be a puma for halloween. Where do I get a puma costume? I think pumas are cool.
The two dozen remaining puma members are meaningless. Their "millions strong" was always a joke from the beginning.
We have serious issues that face our nation. People could care less about your petty grudges right now.
Posted by: Raaaaw | Oct 6, 2008 5:39:25 PM
When the pollsters call us. We say that we are voting for Obama. When our friends ask we say we are voting for Obama. When your canvassers come by we tell them we are for Obama. We lied.
On election day we will vote McCain/Palin.
Your poll numbers are skewed and WRONG. (wink)
It is called a P U M A Pact
Posted by: DNC Party Crasher | Oct 6, 2008 5:37:57 PM
Yeah, well neither John Glenn nor Brice Springsteen is running for president, John McCain is. That's the difference.
Posted by: dem in chicago | Oct 6, 2008 5:37:07 PM
Poor McLame, you have totally misrepresented the situation that occurred in Ohio this past week. In a nut shell, the Ohio state law allows early voting to begin 35 days prior to election day; but voter registration doesn't conclude until today, Oct. 6. So the Sec. of State of Ohio interpreted the law to allow same day registration and voting between the time that early voting begins and Oct. 6. The GOP challenged this and lost. So for the week ending today, individuals were allowed to register and vote the same day. THAT IS THE CONTROVERSY.
And the McCain campaign was all over it. As soon as the ruling came down, they had their grassroots-workers busy registering people and seeing to it that they got to an early voting site the same day.
Posted by: James Danley | Oct 6, 2008 5:35:37 PM
Whatever they saw constitutionally fit to order in Bush v. Gore, will more than likely be what they see to order in Obama v. McCain.
--------------------
No comparison. Gore BEAT Bush. He had more votes overall. Florida districts (where Bush's brother was the governor and his former campaign staff member was running the election)had been manipulated. That's why it was called into question.
Of course, George's daddy put the two court members that decided the fate of the election on the bench.
This year, McCain will not come close. McCain and Palin will simply be losers.
Posted by: Faulty Logic | Oct 6, 2008 5:35:34 PM
If Glen was sincere in his efforts he'd roll on McCain.
That said the MSM has the story on Keating & McCain's extensive involvement & McCain's son's position on the board of Freddy Mac until 6 months ago & McCain's involvement in helping stonewall Bob Dole's legislayion that would have allowed records on POWs & MIAs to be released.
There are so many stories on McCain & his troubled past including his wife's drug addiction that he tried to cover up that the MSM refuses to cover...
Posted by: Chapman | Oct 6, 2008 5:32:50 PM
WEBSITE CENSORS!
why does the PUMA commenter get to have an website address and no one else does?
Posted by: ATTENTION | Oct 6, 2008 5:30:32 PM
P U M A says:
What our members are saying:
"Barack Obama: when it comes to the content of his character, he doesn’t have a shred of it."
"And who injected it (race) into the race? That would be Obama himself, and his lackeys in the corporate, lying media, who care as much about race relations as they do about telling the truth. That would be not at all. See, they only cry bigotry when it suits their interests. And their interest is to have a sock puppet in the white house. If they truly cared about bigotry and hatred they would recognize the rampant sexism that has gone on this election season "
P U M A
Democrats who are not voting for Obama.
Posted by: DNC Party Crasher | Oct 6, 2008 5:29:44 PM
"The fundimentals of our economy are strong"
"I cannot, in good conscience, support the Bush tax cuts"
"There’s not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shiahs. So I think they can probably get along."
"But I believe that the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators."
"The fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I’ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush."
Out of touch, out of mind, out of ideas
Posted by: Words of a "Maverick" | Oct 6, 2008 5:29:32 PM
Yes, and the one thing the Obama campaign is forgetting with all of their voter registration drives, and ACORN donations, and the alleged voter fraud now occurring is the fact that even though the liberal media is on their side, even though both houses of Congress are controlled by the Democrats, the U.S. Supreme Court is still a predominantly conservative one.
Whatever they saw constitutionally fit to order in Bush v. Gore, will more than likely be what they see to order in Obama v. McCain.
Posted by: SandyB | Oct 6, 2008 5:27:30 PM
Palin = troopergate
McCain = he cheated on his ex-wife (6 years), collaborated with Vietnamese and Russian. (POW), participated to the keating financial scandal
Palin, McCain they are ready to cheat on American people four more years..
Posted by: Tod | Oct 6, 2008 5:26:42 PM
To GiveItUp:
Although I disagree as to all thr reasons as to why Mccain/Palin have already lost. I agree that indeed Obama has this locked in.
Senator Obama will be the next president. The mudslinging just makes the republican side look desperate.
Posted by: Agreeable | Oct 6, 2008 5:23:02 PM
DNC party crasher is DEAN ON!
O'Reilly never pushed enough about Wright either, but we all know OBAMA KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HIS OLD UNCLE/MENTOR IS ALL ABOUT, which is why Wright says he's coming after Obama if he ever gets to the WH....
THEY SELL TAPES AT THE BACK OF OBAMA'S CHURCH.....SO IS HE NOT CURIOUS ENOUGH ABOUT HIS PASTOR OF 20 YEARS TO HEAR HIS HATEFUL SURMONS?
What does this fool take us for?
NEVER BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!!!!
Posted by: hanna | Oct 6, 2008 5:22:03 PM
Mishaps while flying?
It's always good to have friends (or relatives) in high places.
Posted by: Allen | Oct 6, 2008 5:21:31 PM
Mike
"No one knows who Barack Obama really is. He says what the people want to hear. If he said or did something that is not working in the polls, he changes sides. Look at his past and tell me that you are comfortable with him running the country. "
Yeah, why not look at his past.
Barack Obama:
Didn't switch on Iraq.
Didn't flip-flop on the economy like raging McCain.
Let's look at McCain.
Used to claim to be a Deregulator, now claims to be a Regulator.
Voted in the past all the time with Bush, now claims to be for change.
Used to be against Karl Grove tactics, now hired to whole Karl Grove gang.
I'm no liberal zealot, I don't believe in social engineering. But I'm against dumb conservative 'six-pack' populism, it has not work, it will never work. Look at Italy, look at Australia.. They can fool you for a while, but at the end it's one big major disillusion.
No, in this election there is only one stable respectable candidate left, it's Obama.
Posted by: CLabs | Oct 6, 2008 5:21:24 PM
As if Troopergate weren't enough, Palin has a serious tax problem now.
Palin's Tax Returns Are Wrong: Jack Bogdanski (Lewis & Clark) notes that the State of Alaska did not follow its own per diem policies in Governor Palin's case, as set forth in this two-page memo, Income Tax Implications of Long-Term Per Diem. Jack notes:
This document is a potential blockbuster. It establishes two important facts:
1. The state has long acknowledged that it had a duty to determine whether Palin's "tax home" was really Anchorage and Wasilla, a conclusion which would have required that her per diems be reported as taxable income.
2. The state knew that when an employee is planning to spend a majority of her time on state business in the Anchorage area for a four-year period, Anchorage is the employee's "tax home," and per diems for time spent in the "tax home" are taxable income.
So why didn't Alaska officials follow the state's official policies and report Palin's per diems as taxable income on her W-2? Only they can answer that.
And how can the tax lawyer whose opinion was released by the McCain campaign on Friday say that "no special consideration was ever given to Governor Palin, notwithstanding that she was the governor of Alaska"?
Posted by: hero | Oct 6, 2008 5:20:59 PM
sp:
Why don't you include the part of his speech today where he ripped all of the Dems who failed to heed warnings regarding Fannie and Freddie a new one?
Nothing is false in this speech. McCain did show up to try and help figure out a solution to the problem while Obama stayed on the campaign trail saying "call me if you need me."
Posted by: SandyB | Oct 6, 2008 5:19:56 PM
Did you hear the Stevie Wonder song supporting Barack? Goes like this -
Ba-rack O-ba-ma
Ba-a-rack O-ba-a-ma
Ba-ra-ack Obama-a...
(Repeat several more times)
Kind of like the nominee, sounds good, but when you read the transcript there's nothing there.
Posted by: ryan c | Oct 6, 2008 5:19:48 PM
ALOT of posting so I will say 1 thing:
-Barring the hearsay of McCain had a friend who did u-know-what or Obama's second cousin wore a beachtowel in winter...
-Given what HUGE mistakes McCain has done in this campaign, and considering he is McBush (dont kid yourselves, he agreed with over 90 percent of Bush on all the mistakes).
McCain is NOT going to win. Just wake up and realize a change is needed, people agree on that, and OBAMA is going to win. PERIOD.
Accept it, and move on gramps.
Posted by: GiveItUp... | Oct 6, 2008 5:19:26 PM
SEN. CASEY: LET'S SEE MCCAIN SURVIVE WITHOUT GOV'T HEALTHCARE...
As the two presidential campaigns assault each other over past associations, the Obama campaign took the opportunity on Monday afternoon to cast John McCain's health care plan as a product of "misguided, reckless ideology."
Taking to the phones, Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania and former Florida Sen. Bob Graham determinedly laid into McCain for proposing a policy that would result in massive Medicare cuts and higher taxes for some insured.
"Think about this proposal in the context of others, [and] you have to wonder about what John McCain and his running mate's priorities are for America," said Casey. "This is not putting your country first, it is putting a radical, misguided, reckless ideology ahead of the interest of families of America."
Casey went so far as to challenge McCain to "survive without his government provided health insurance," in order to better understand the struggles of those uncovered by their employers.
"We have a pretty good deal and it is about time the American people have access to the same insurance we do," he said.
The call is part of a concerted effort by the Obama campaign to shine the political spotlight on health care and Social Security issues in the wake of the current financial crisis. The effort has included a bevy of television and radio ads, blasting McCain for seeking to privatize both these programs. The two Senators were granted an assist from the Wall Street Journal this morning, which reported that the McCain campaign would fund health-care related tax credits (which they believe will help people pay for their own insurance) through massive cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. Douglas Holtz-Eakin, McCain's senior policy adviser, said savings in those two programs will come from cutting waste and unnecessary spending.
"I think the fact that this health care plan has been examined now and the Wall Street Journal would say in the lead paragraph that it could results in cuts of 1.3 trillion dollars in over ten years is further proof that John McCain's campaign is being run by conservative ideologues who have no connection to what is going on in people's daily lives," said Casey.
Posted by: healthcare | Oct 6, 2008 5:19:19 PM
to ed.
why are you still blabbering about hillary?
your lost!
MCCAIN IS A GIMMICK AND HAS NO CLUE!
independents for common sense!
Obama 08'
Posted by: joel | Oct 6, 2008 5:19:08 PM
Palin is not only a lier, shes a loud mouth, trying to appear as somthing she is not and will never be, smart. This chick can't even run her own house, Alaska and has absolutly no class. You poor Reps. have placed another Dummy to head up your party, one you can hardly stomach, and he's added chatty kathy to the poor poor mix. you guys are a bad joke.
Posted by: chucky | Oct 6, 2008 5:18:31 PM
Yes, the outcome of this election will make the Bush/Gore debacle look like a tea party with the Obama voter fraud which will be like no other election. ACORN is where BO whetted his chops on how to throw elections. Count on it...there will be lawyers investigating on Nov. 5.
Posted by: hanna | Oct 6, 2008 5:18:09 PM
What they are saying at P U M A
Monday, October 6th
"If anyone dared draw a picture of Obama in such a condescending and thoroughly dismissive way just because of his race, I’d be the first to cry foul. So why can they do it to a woman?
So here’s the deal the media is trying to sell you: If Obama loses it will be YOUR fault because YOU are a racist."
But if anyone printed anything portraying Obama as being the “step and fetch-it boy” for Nancy and Teddy? If they portrayed him in a big pimp hat with feathers and platform shoes? OMG, the horror! (And rightly so).
Women get no protection by society from the hateful stereotypes directed at them, even when those stereotypes are just as wrong and ugly as any based on r@ce.
"If I wasn’t worried to death about the future of this country & the future of the party that I loved but that no longer exists, I would find the fact that we are witnessing a real, life Ministry of Truth in action quite interesting. Don’t like the old story? Why just write a new one. Obama now claims he didn’t know about Ayers’ past when he gave him that little “get to know you” fete in his home. He didn’t know about Rezko either, or what was going on at his Church. Most sad of all is not the fact that there are morons who buy these lies but that they don’t understand that even if true, anyone who is so oblivious to his surroundings is not fit to be president."
P U M A
We voted for Hillary.
The DNC gave us a BOZO instead
McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: DNC Party Crasher | Oct 6, 2008 5:17:26 PM
After this election, Americans will have the least experienced, least qualified, least prepared president in living memory if the Republican candidate is elected and has a heart attack or if the Democratic candidate is elected and does not.
Posted by: ryan c | Oct 6, 2008 5:14:15 PM
Running for President with an adoring liberal media and celebrity endorsements and rock star status DOES NOT QUALIFY ONE FOR PRESIDENT! Nineteen months of having 300 advisors machine your campaign does't cut it...but Bozo will keep talking finance as he sees it is his golden opportunity to the keys to the WH. Unbelieveable.
NEVER OBAMA. I will turn off all TV and raido for 4 years.
Posted by: hanna | Oct 6, 2008 5:13:57 PM
26 McCain advisors and fundraisers have been registered lobbyists for Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac
According to Senate lobbying records, 26 McCain advisors and fundraisers have been registered lobbyists for Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. Seven of them are still registered, and another four terminated their registration in late September as the subprime scandal worsened. [Senate lobbying records]
SIXTEEN FANNIE MAE LOBBYISTS (TWO CURRENTLY LOBBYING)
Wayne L Berman, National Finance Co-Chair*
Aquiles Suarez, Economic Advisor
John Green, Capitol Hill Liaison
Dan Crippen, Health Care Policy Adviser
AB Culvahouse, VP Selection
Kirk Blalock, Young Professionals for McCain National Chair (Terminated 9/22/08)
Kate Hull, Young Professionals for McCain Fundraiser (Terminated 9/22/08)
Aleix Jarvis, Bundler (Terminated 9/22/08)
Kirsten Chadwick, Bundler (Terminated 9/22/08)
Richard Hohlt, Bundler*
Tom Loeffler, Bundler, Former General Chairman, National Finance Chair
Nicholas Calio, Bundler
Alberto Cardenes, Bundler
Michael Kennedy, Bundler
Peter Madigan, Bundler
Alison McSlarrow, Bundler
*currently lobbying (as of 7/31/08, no termination filed as of 10/6/08)
10 FREDDIE MAC LOBBYISTS (FIVE CURRENTLY LOBBYING)
Charlie Black, Senior advisor, Bundler
Bill Timmons Sr., Senior advisor for transition*
Carlos Bonilla, Former Economic Advisor*
Mark Buse, Senate Chief of Staff
David Crane, Senior Policy Adviser
Al D'Amato, Bundler*
Melissa Edwards, Young Professionals for McCain Fundraiser*
Susan Molinari, Women for McCain Steering Committee*
Juleanna Glover Weiss, Bundler
Don Sundquist, Tennessee Co-Chair
*currently lobbying (as of 7/31/08, no termination filed as of 10/6/08)
Posted by: fannie & freddie | Oct 6, 2008 5:13:39 PM
There is nothing wrong with voting early as long as it is a legitimately registered voter and a ONE TIME THING.
Apparently many of the voters being registered by ACORN are not valid and therein lies the controversy that will probably end this election up in the Supreme Court again.
Posted by: SandyB | Oct 6, 2008 5:13:31 PM
Obama is taking advantage of Ohio’s new controversial early voting:
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And McCain's staff didn't think to do anything?
You would think they would know about the early voting. (By the way, I voted in VA already. OH is NOT the only state you can vote early.)
Can we help it if McCain has poor judgement and no real leadership ability?
Posted by: Poor McLame | Oct 6, 2008 5:11:14 PM
The Democrats really blew it. We could have owned the White House for at least the next 16 years. We should have chosen HRC, who would lead us through this mess. Then, she'd be re-elected. Obama would have 8 years to do what he hasn't done so far - have his actions match his word. If he fell on his face again in the next 8 years, we'd have someone like Evan Bayh to take over. I mean, this is a junk year. I don't like McCain, but I FEAR Obama.
Posted by: jan'shouse | Oct 6, 2008 5:10:03 PM
How about a post regarding those high school kids in Missouri whose teacher posted them on the internet doing Obama chants?
These kids might be a little bit older than the ones in that singing video but not much.
Gee, what an inspiration this Obama is to youth.
Posted by: SandyB | Oct 6, 2008 5:09:19 PM
How dare Sarah Palin attach Barack Obama on terrorism. Since she and McCain are so American, why don't they ever talk about the terrorists right here in America - I'm talking about the ones that hide behind white sheets. Give me a break, how desperate can she and McCain get?
Sarah, the best thing you can do now is go back to Alaska and take care of your precious baby Trig, and be the best grandmother that you can be!