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As Dow Plummets, McCain Campaign Highlights Palin's Attacking Obama on Ayers
October 06, 2008 10:31 AM
This morning the McCain-Palin campaign blast-emailed Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's attack in Clearwater, Florida, on Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., regarding his relationship with William Ayers.
"I was reading my copy of The New York Times the other day, and I was really interested to read about Barack’s friends from Chicago," Palin said. "Turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers. And according to The New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, “launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol.” Wow. And there’s even more to the story. Barack Obama said Ayers was just someone in the neighborhood. But that’s less than truthful. His own top advisor said they were, quote, 'certainly friendly.' In fact, Obama held one of the first meetings of his political career in Bill Ayers’s home. And they’ve worked together on various projects in Chicago."
Senior Obama adviser David Axelrod told CNN that Obama had no idea who Ayers was when he visited his home in 1995.
"When he went he certainly, he didn't know the history," Axelrod said.
"It's a dangerous road, but we have no choice," a top McCain strategist told the Daily News of their new strategy to attack Obama's character. "If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we're going to lose."
Meanwhile, on Wall Street, the Dow Jones just fell below 10,000.
- jpt
October 6, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (279)
Since when is "Intellectuals in a Time of Crisis" a "lampoonable" title?!
You can sit on a board with someone (especially on a large, "prestige" board) without knowing the person well. Ditto appearing on a speaker's panel.
Posted by: Barbara Saunders | Nov 1, 2008 4:17:41 PM
I think McCain is past his prime. Way past his prime. At one debate, he invoked he glory of storming the beach at Normandy. At each debate, he opened by sending regards to "elder statesman" and their health crises (Kennedy, Nancy Reagan). Now we're back with Cold War rhetoric about "socialism."
Though acknowledging those colleagues having health problems is an honorable gesture, the whole pattern that emerges is a McCain who thinks like an old man fading out. His frame of reference seems to be not the 21st century but the concerns of the mid-20th century. And, he has shifted into retrospective, "closure" mode.
Posted by: Barbara Saunders | Nov 1, 2008 3:56:06 PM
jake, shouldn't you start each post with, "I am a Democratatic party nationalist and I don't mind saying what you will read is in no way objective." so that those of us that are looking for some honesty don't waste our time here?
Posted by: wow | Oct 9, 2008 10:14:08 PM
palin should be investigated for refering to obama as a terrorist. ten years ago nobody would of paid any attention to someone as stupid as palin. in today's world an accusation of that nature made by someone who is on the political ticket to be v.p. needs to be responssible for what they say. she is a dangerous nasty viciously foul creature. if something happens to obama because of her race baiting and inciting the morons she needs to be held responsible. what she and mccain are doing ruins the elelction process. whatever happened to fair play and integrity. mccain and palin have gone to far. palin is committing political suicide. for what? mccain? more horribly bad judgement on her part. and what about that ghoul todd palin lurking around in the background of all her photos. doesn't he have a life? who is taking care of the kids? it is just to wierd. these people are not normal.
Posted by: con46ie | Oct 9, 2008 7:03:37 PM
Makes me wonder just what happened to Palin while at McCain's ranch. To me, she has now become a "domestic terrorist". Her hate speeches are inciting more hate, and, as we may soon see, violence. How can this behavior be allowed? I thought inciting a riot is illegal..........
Posted by: Linda | Oct 9, 2008 7:00:45 PM
well i guess it is ok to support people who shoot doctors and blow up abortion clinics in the name of PRo Life.
NOT ONLY IS THEI THE RNC AS A WHOLE IT IS ALSO JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN.
He one of his delegates at the conventionthis year, supported and praised a woman convicted of shootign a doctor at anabortion clinic in both arms. the judge in the case however, stated that this lady due to her actions deserved the label DOMESTIC TERRORIST.
LOOK IT UP.
MCCAIN AND DOMESTIC TERRORISM
BUT I GUES SINCE IT WAS AN ABORTION CLINIC THE RNC THINKS THAT IS OK.
Posted by: MARIO | Oct 9, 2008 3:41:25 PM
Perhaps you should look at the left wing Congress for the answer to why the economy is in the tanks! Barney Rubble would have done a better job than Barney Frank!
Ever since the Democrats have taken over the Congress, they have made one poor decision after the other and neglected the tell tale signs of erosion.
Sure...the war has been an expensive undertaking...but I'd rather we have a big deficit than be DEAD. If you think it's a coincidence we have not had another attack on US soil since 9/11, you are kidding yourself. It's because Bush has done a great job at protecting us...saving YOUR butt, like it or not!
Posted by: Smart girl | Oct 9, 2008 11:15:42 AM
Geo said: They get paid high salaries to lie professionally and twist words so you can't understand what they are saying.
Just because you can't understand what they're saying doesn't mean you should stop thinking intelligently in this election. Look it up, use a dictionary. You're basically admitting that you are not intelligent. That is no way to prove your point.
Posted by: Lady Sixpack | Oct 8, 2008 3:24:00 PM
I have read soo many comments, I am confused these Americans are so full of hate, paranoia (see Jerry and Olivia calling Obama a 'part of Muslim plan to conquer USA/the world etc, God's duty to halt it', "ehm how did they know what God 's thoughts is? Are they God's saints or what?),and lies and contra-lies etc.
I compared it with my country Indonesia's history, full of rebellions (the Islam radicals pursuing an Islamist State, the Communist Party pursuing a communist state, etc),and/or independence revolts (Aceh, Maluku), since 50 years ago when the republic was still a kid.
What do we do towards the hundreds of thousands involved? They got amnesty from the former president (Soekarno) except the most big and dangerous one (the Communist party's rebellio 1965),
(who was just given amnesty after the downfall of late President Soeharta), and NOBODY EVER TOUCHED AGAIN ALL THOSE HISTORICAL DEEDS DONE BY THOSE MEN IN THEIR YOUNG YEARS (they are all old men now).They live as normal lives as old people now accepted as friens, all forgotten and forgiven.
Why did people of such a big country like USA, a Christian too (Jesus said "forgive them.."), be afraid of such a small deed as putting a ONCE small bomb 40 years ago,done by a man now old, in his younger hot headed years?
I think the bomb was connected some way to the demonstrations against the Vietnam war by those thousands (or hundred thousands?) men in the l970's demanding the end of a war claiming about 50.000 USA soldiers' life.
And Palin, with her HATE RISING SPEECH AROUSING DESTRUCTIVE DEEDS (EMOTIONS)
she seemed to me AS A TRUE AGITATOR AT LEAST, OR A TERRORIST TEACHER AT MOST.
IF mcCain trails in economic polls,why didn't he IMPROVE his ECONOMIC ATTRACTIVENESS? His character assasination like Bush did to Kerry would be erased by economic SITUATION, UNLIKE KERRY's situation then.
om santi, Indonesia.
Posted by: om santi, Indonesia | Oct 8, 2008 1:52:32 PM
But they did have a choice. They could have taken the high-road and focused on real issues instead of resorting to dirty politics and character assassination. Maybe McCain would loose the election, but at least he would have been able to walk away with his honor and integrity relatively intact.
However, I believe McCain is now willing to sacrifice both of those qualities in a final attempt to become president. And if I had the opportunity to speak to him in person, I would look him directly in the eye and say it right to his face.
Posted by: Joe Sixpack | Oct 8, 2008 4:08:29 AM
I don't know who's going down faster McCain or the Dow? Does anyone really care about 30 or 40 years ago. Neither McCain or Obama, nor Ayers ( for that matter) were convicted for any crimes. So can we focus on the real issue the economy. Dang! you can't tell me McCain knew Palin was such an extremist idiot.
Posted by: Charity | Oct 7, 2008 5:24:35 PM
Who the hell cares about Ayers. It is the economy and as long as Ayers has not committed a single murder and has not succeeded in hurting the US, he can be the pope for all I care. Palin does not have average intelligence but a good parrot and so don't waste time in quoting her.
Posted by: gjkotw01 | Oct 7, 2008 4:47:17 PM
Now I remember where I have seen Mrs. Palin before She was the mean girl at my high school.
Posted by: riddelup | Oct 7, 2008 4:46:10 PM
Blame the media, spread propaganda, attack opponents, denounce intellectuals, spread fear of foreigners and minorities, etc..And strike when fear is high amongst the citizenry (economic failure, and crippling foreign policy)....Many Republicans come dangerously close to this...All that is really missing is the outright bigotry and racism, though I suspect for many it lingers just under the surface.
Posted by: indy_voter | Oct 7, 2008 4:38:27 PM
The Palin-McCain ticket is so out of time. This is a dangerous, ambitious pitbull who would step over McCain to endear herself to the Rethugs so they'll tap her in 2012. Some might have already.
Posted by: Hollyinla | Oct 7, 2008 4:38:21 PM
Posted by: Mary | Oct 7, 2008 4:25:02 PM
''I wonder why ABC isn't reporting this story. It's all over the web. At least with the Internet we can see stories that major networks 'censor' from the voters.''
Mary,you mean like the 13 minute web video about your ''honorable POW hero'' McBush's ties to The Keating Five scandal? This is all over the web too. Maybe you need to read instead of posting talking points.
Posted by: Hollyinla | Oct 7, 2008 4:33:43 PM
Obama wishes the election would hurry up and get here as all these ghosts are coming out of the closets. I just heard that Dr. Corsi, who wrote a book on Obama and is in Kenya on their invitation to talk to Kenyans and go more investigation on Obama, was stopped from having a scheduled news conference and is being held in communicado in Kenya. Maybe Obama doesn't want whatever Corsi had to say to get out before tonight's debate. He is very close to and a hero in Kenya. My, my; his past may come back to haunt him. I wonder why ABC isn't reporting this story. It's all over the web. At least with the Internet we can see stories that major networks 'censor' from the voters.
Posted by: Mary | Oct 7, 2008 4:25:02 PM
Sandra Johanson,
Pointing out that McCain will simply be four more years of Bush is not scare tactics. It is called telling the truth. The fact that McCain will indeed be like Bush is a scary thought...but it is the truth.
Posted by: indy_voter | Oct 7, 2008 4:19:09 PM
That's what pit bulls are for after all!! Especially those of the female gender. When McShame has has no shame, no ideas, nothing of substance to offer, what else can you expect him to do but talk trash. The american people can see so clearly that this pair of "maverickls-not" would be a disaster for our country and the sooner they get lost together with the garbage that they are spewing, the better off we would be. The economy is in great danger of collapse and this pair of McShames think that we should ignore it and it would go away. Shame of those who still have a conscience and morals for not standing up to this pair of trash-bags. Say NO TO THE MCSHAMES!
Posted by: Karen | Oct 7, 2008 4:08:39 PM
I urge all voters to GOOGLE "Khlaid Al-Mansour's connection with Obama" and then decide whether you could possibly vote for Obama!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: virginia | Oct 7, 2008 4:00:25 PM
To "Geo"...playing the "fear card" is no hypocrisy at all. It’s called a “major difference”.
The type of fear McSame and Wailin’ Palin is peddling is based in playing on people’s ignorance of the facts. Just as the Great Uniter has done for the last 8 years.
The kind of ALARM Obama is sending is a message that if you want another four years identical to the last eight years (let alone the last 8 weeks!)then vote for the man who stood side by side with the outgoing Administration 90% of the time. Now THAT is something to fear! Hypocrisy? Nah, just STRAIGHT TALK (wink wink!) you betcha!
Posted by: ConstitutionFirst | Oct 7, 2008 3:30:53 PM
It's amazing how the democrats have yelled for the last two decades that Hey Geo, you wrote: Republicans were using fear tactics (terrorists, etc.) to win elections, and here we are in this campaign, all we hear from Obama is "fear tactics" - trying to scare people into believing that if we vote for McCain, it will be another 4 years of the Bush admininstration. Hypocrasy...
This is reality, not hypocrisy. And these aren't scare tactics, it's the cold hard truth. The Dems don't have to "try" to scare anyone with a '4 more years'mantra. As you can see by the polls, most people aren't willing to go down that GOP road again.
Posted by: Sandra Johanson | Oct 7, 2008 3:17:31 PM
There is a huge difference between suggesting Obama supports local terrorists compare to suggesting McCain's policies are no different from the current administration. Using words like terrorist, damning American, etc.. are fear-driven tactics. Asking people to compare McCain's plans to Bush's policies, on whether you want more of the same.. isn't fear-driven, it's reality. And a lot of people are facing the hardship of reality these days. If McCain's plan was better, he wouldn't have to divert his campaign to fear-driven tactics. It's really sad, I thought McCain was better than that.
Posted by: Jennifer | Oct 7, 2008 3:15:30 PM
This woman is a nut case.I will be my last dollar McCain is now wishing he had never put her on this ticket.He won't admit it but baby you can bet on it.
What are they thinking.They have lost this race so now they want to ruin what is left of this country,,, .......
Posted by: NH voter | Oct 7, 2008 2:44:17 PM
It's amazing how the democrats have yelled for the last two decades that Republicans were using fear tactics (terrorists, etc.) to win elections, and here we are in this campaign, all we hear from Obama is "fear tactics" - trying to scare people into believing that if we vote for McCain, it will be another 4 years of the Bush admininstration. Hypocrasy...
Posted by: Geo | Oct 7, 2008 2:40:12 PM
Jake:
You may want to read excerpt from September 30th 1999 NY Times article before you tie Republicans to economic crisis!!
Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending
By STEVEN A. HOLMES
ln a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae
Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.
The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets -- including the New York
metropolitan region -- will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.
Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
Better to do your homework and show some balanced reporting. I have not seen a reprint of this article anywhere in the media, but it is certainly circulating amongst taxpayers!
Posted by: Michael | Oct 7, 2008 2:33:29 PM
Jake:
You may want to read excerpt from September 30th 1999 NY Times article before you tie Republicans to economic crisis!!
Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending
By STEVEN A. HOLMES
ln a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae
Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.
The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets -- including the New York
metropolitan region -- will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.
Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
Better to do your homework and show some balanced reporting. I have not seen a reprint of this article anywhere in the media, but it is certainly circulating amongst taxpayers!
Posted by: Michael | Oct 7, 2008 2:33:11 PM
Okay, Obama is a lawyer and Biden is a lawyer. Isn't it the lawyers that messed this whole country up in the first place, including all the ones we have there now in office? That's the single least trusted profession in the country according to polls for the last 10 years, and yet we have naive people all over the country thinking (it's a miracle - they are going to tell the truth now?). Just because they say they will do something - DOESN'T mean they will! They get paid high salaries to lie professionally and twist words so you can't understand what they are saying. Then they deceive people into thinking they sound so intelligent, so they get elected. WOW - That's really what we need in office right now. What a JOKE! Let's see a list of how they have ever helped you. But please start by listing the Bill you got from them. They are good at taking your money - just where they belong - in Washington. People wake up!
Posted by: Geo | Oct 7, 2008 2:22:00 PM
if all(and I mean all) of you have nothing better to do...get a job, pay some taxes, doesn't matter who becomes president, they will not have a good approval rating as their campaign promises are lies, and we all know it so why argue. Just go and vote your useless vote and wait to see who the electoral college elects. Wake up America, your vote does not count. Read your history books.
Posted by: truth1 | Oct 7, 2008 1:10:08 PM
Sarah Palin ended her debate last Thursday with a quote from Ronald Reagan about how, if we aren't vigilant, we'll end up "telling our children and our children's children" about the days when America was free.
Only Reagan wasn't warning about Soviet aggression or terrorism. He was warning against legislation that would guarantee health care for older Americans - the program known as Medicare.
Now McCain is going after Medicare as well. McCain wants to pay for his health plan with MAJOR reductions to Medicare in a move that independent analysts estimate could result in cuts of $1.3 TRILLION.
Posted by: Lee-Usa | Oct 7, 2008 12:41:32 PM
In a 1991 interview, Alaskan Independence Party (AIG) founder, Joe Volger, said: ”The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag.”
After denouncing Federal regulation of land use, he added: ”And then you get mad. And you say the hell with them. And you renounce allegiance, and you pledge your efforts, your effects, your honor, your life to Alaska.”
Todd Palin was a registered AIP member from 1995 to 2002, and the AIP leadership certainly considers Sarah Palin as one of their own.
Posted by: Lee-Usa | Oct 7, 2008 12:32:39 PM
You wont see the reports of Palin and McCain talking about the economy here. You need to go to other news agencies to see it. You also wont find the information on Obama and his terrorist friends and campain manager here. You need to see other news reports elsewhere.
Posted by: Jim Rod | Oct 7, 2008 12:18:52 PM
Palin unleashes the hatred we all know is really the only message Republicans have going for them.
With the crowd yelling "KILL HIM!" "HE'S A TERRORIST!" Palin encourages fear and foaming at the mouth hatred. She smiles while she incites Republicans to spew hate against a candidate running for office.
Posted by: Lee-Usa | Oct 7, 2008 12:17:28 PM
I find it interesting that these people keep bringing up this Alaska thing for Palin but fail to mention the bill that Obama and Biden signed a while back which would of gave the ok for Hawaii to leave the union. Face it guys Obama/Biden are much more kooky than McCain/Palin...no matter what things you spin. Also, I havent heard Obama talk much about how hes going to "save the nation" like the media thinks hes going to do. What is his idea for the economy? Also, the media FINALY covers ole Bill Ahers and its in a negative light to the republicans and not to Obama...WEIRD!
Posted by: Dan | Oct 7, 2008 12:09:30 PM
Missy - You haven't heard Obama/Biden talk about economy because you may only listen to McCain. Everybody knows that economy is a hot topic for Obama/Biden, and they are talking about economy everyday. The person who is avoiding this topic is your favorite McCain. Everybody knows that he is now turning to personal attack rather than talking about economy. Obama will use the money that is spending in Iraq and the tax money that is giving to the wealthy to pay for his tax cut. How will McCain pay for his tax cut? How will McCain pay for the War in Iraq? Cutting government spending will NOT enough to pay for these expenses. You need to listen to both sides.
Posted by: Oh | Oct 7, 2008 12:03:51 PM
Maybe if you people watched McCain/Palin talk you would see that they are talking about the ecomony. Actually I haven't heard Obama/Biden talk much about the ecomony, or how they plan on paying for giving 95% of the tax payers a tax break in this economy. I do feel that Barack Huessin Obama's character should be questioned and I don't see anybody questioning his qualifications to be President, his campaign would rather question the qualifications of Sarah Palin the bottom of the other ticket. What about his attachment to ACORN? PEOPLE WAKE UP, Barack Obama has absolutely no qualifications except to run for an office and THAT'S IT!
Posted by: Missy | Oct 7, 2008 11:36:07 AM
Palin's husband has connections with a radical separatist Alaskan group, Alaskans who hate America!
Posted by: carmen | Oct 7, 2008 11:32:06 AM
Once again in a time of national crisis, our nation is being polarized with fear and hatred, this time led by Sarah Palin and John McCain.
It is the responsibility of the media to reveal truth, and NOT further fan the flames of an increasingly volatile situation. Not only has Palin successfully affixed a bulls-eye on Obama, she also is putting the press in great danger by stirring angry crowds.
This is a frightening situation in the face of a serious economic crisis. And, where is the "great leader" McCain? Along for the thrill-ride!
Out of concern for the safety of your reporters and the public at large, PLEASE refuse to report on Palin's campaign rallies. Her untruths and her vitriol do NOT deserve your attention!
Also, in reporting about this, please do not further incite the situation. Please report as clearly and responsibly as possible. Palin does not speak facts. We need to learn them from you.
This is not "kitchen sink" campaigning; this is hate-filled and intentionally polarizing rhetoric. Please, let us not repeat the mistakes of the past.
Posted by: Deborah J | Oct 7, 2008 11:28:02 AM
McPain fiddles while the DOW burns.
Posted by: Colorado Dem | Oct 7, 2008 10:59:16 AM
NAIROBI, Kenya —
The American author of a best-selling book attacking Barack Obama as unfit for the presidency was being deported from Kenya on Tuesday, a criminal investigations official said.
Oh, Obama... what now "my friend" and "fellow American"....
Posted by: msa123 | Oct 7, 2008 10:43:25 AM
I am dismayed as I observe that I live in a country with a growing majority of people who want to elect a leader who has no regard for human life, as evidenced by his repeated rejection of legislature to provide any medical treatment of babies born alive as a result of botched abortions, and who is okay associating with those like Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers. They are anti-American, though they may not be jailed terrorists. I believe that you all need to go back and restudy American history, what our country was founded upon, and identify the qualities that made our founding fathers so successful. We have the oldest standing system of government in the world, more than two hundren years old. We need to return to the truths of the Word of God and judge the qualities of both men according to that. Remember, no one is perfect, not even the patriarchs of scripture, but we have a God who desires to use people that seek and serve him in order to accomplish his purposes in our lives, despite our blunders.
Posted by: Kathy | Oct 7, 2008 10:29:13 AM
I am dismayed as I observe that I live in a country with a growing majority of people who want to elect a leader who has no regard for human life, as evidenced by his repeated rejection of legislature to provide any medical treatment of babies born alive as a result of botched abortions, and who is okay associating with those like Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers. They are anti-American, though they may not be jailed terrorists. I believe that you all need to go back and restudy American history, what our country was founded upon, and identify the qualities that made our founding fathers so successful. We have the oldest standing system of government in the world, more than two hundren years old. We need to return to the truths of the Word of God and judge the qualities of both men according to that. Remember, no one is perfect, not even the patriarchs of scripture, but we have a God who desires to use people that seek and serve him in order to accomplish his purposes in our lives, despite our blunders.
Posted by: Kathy | Oct 7, 2008 10:29:09 AM
I think Palin is an idiot! Has she forgoten she actually has ties to a party calling for Alaska to break off from the United States.
Posted by: mainaj | Oct 7, 2008 8:53:50 AM
I'm confused by the headline of this post. What exactly does the Industrial Average have to do with a campaign press release? You may as well blame it on what I had for lunch.
Posted by: Patrick | Oct 6, 2008 9:05:24 PM
We knew all about Ayers from the primary debates... and still the majority of voters support Obama.
And I'm not specifically talking polls here -- I'm the first to say the only important poll is the one at the voting booth... whether my choice is up in the polls or down, I know they are not exact by any means.
What I'm talking about is far more revealing... and that is McCain/Palin campaign's bringing this up NOW. Why not earlier if it's such an important issue.
Palin never heard this before? Well, actually I can believe that of her... but McCain has totally known all of this for a long time. Before this election cycle, I would imagine (but I won't state unequivocally because I don't spread lies and rumors).
Posted by: dassis | Oct 6, 2008 8:36:24 PM
At war the first casualty is the truth. At this electoral race the truth has been killed by McCain/Palin and the Republicans
Posted by: republicans nomore | Oct 6, 2008 7:47:44 PM
So, Palin didn't know about this old Ayers story?
Wow, she really is an idiot.
Posted by: Germanicus | Oct 6, 2008 5:24:49 PM
Somthing smells fishy...Gov. Palin??? The handlers said fine Sarah you want us to let you loose like the wayward moose you are --Go! And look at what happened...she pulled erroneous miscredible lies out of her flute...LOL She's a waste of resources, but it will be good for the dems if she and the McCain camp gets just enough rope to hang themselves.
Posted by: required | Oct 6, 2008 4:20:09 PM
Let's compare.
Obama was 8 years old when a guy he later knew in Chicago planned bombings. Obama had nothing to do with the plans.
McCain was an adult aged 52, and a US Senator representing Americans, when he himself executed corruption that led to bank meltdown of Lincoln Savings and Loans and cost American taxpayers $2 billion out of their own pocket to bail out the bank. Sound familiar? Obviously, that is relevant to today's economic crisis.
Mr. Ayers donated two hundred dollars to Obama's campaign, as a personal choice, with no strings attached.
Mr. Keating donated $112,000.00 to McCain, in return for policy changes of deregulation, that taxpayers never voted for.
That's a stronger "association" to a criminal, for which McCain was investigated by the Senate Ethics Committee, than a mere "co-existance" where Obama happened to live near and work with some guy in his hometown.
In articles where you discuss Obama's co-existance with a questionable character, perhaps it would be useful and fair to also include an apples-to-apples comparison of the characters that McCain "associates" with.
America is better than this.
Posted by: brooklyn | Oct 6, 2008 3:55:33 PM
I have not read all the responses, so I don't know if anyone decided to say this, but... Sarah Palin was able to fit the New York Times in between her reading everything, and her reading everything else? Does Sarah Palin read up on anything? If she just Google'd once before she said something maybe she would think twice about what she was about to say, instead of saying anything the McCain writers push in front of her. If everyone Ayers was "associated" with was to be crucified, then some brilliant minds would be gone, including Obama. ...I've just been handed a memo, McCain's wife is a robot-terrorist. Must be true, no need to look it up.
Posted by: Toshiro Mifune | Oct 6, 2008 3:36:01 PM
"I want just one of you ignorant spewing bots to tell me Obama's plan for the economy, that will serve the crisis that we are in now"
There is one difference between Obama and McCain. Make the biggest spending cut in American history. End the war in Iraq, and let the Iraqi people govern them self. Save us 100-150 billion a year.
About the rest...
It's campaign time, and both candidates promise a lot but we know we don't have the money.
Don't be naive, there is no money for the tax-breaks. Holtz-Eakin, McCain's chief economic adviser, told you're going to have to raise taxes whether you're a Republican, a Democrat or a Martian.
Posted by: CLabs | Oct 6, 2008 3:04:39 PM
Seriously, this is so funny. If Ms. Palin actually took the time to do her homework, she would find that Bill Ayers is NOT a former/current terrorist. I had him as a professor at UIC and found him to be one of the most outstanding professors I've ever encountered. He met with students whenever they needed him and had our entire class in his home for a 'field trip'. He would do anything for just about anyone, as would his wife. He is a true liberal and is a phenomenal human being!
Posted by: Pamela | Oct 6, 2008 3:03:19 PM
Okay, so Ayers is not related to the economy. What is Obama saying, besides "oversight" that will actually do anything to improve the economy?
Taxes. Will it help? I don't see a connection.
Posted by: Wade | Oct 6, 2008 3:02:51 PM
The DOW plummeted 700 pts. today, and McCain wants to talk about some guy that Obama knew ten years ago. McCain can try turning the page on the economy, but the economy won't let him.
Posted by: OMG | Oct 6, 2008 2:47:29 PM
SerenityNow, you stated that you would have more respect for the Dem congress if they forced Bush to use his veto pen more often. Bush has vetoed more bills in the last two years than in all the previous six years. It's true that the Dems are a majority in congress but in the senate, it's 49 Repubs and 49 Dems with Lieberman caucusing with the Dems, thus giving them a majority. Not nearly enough of a majority to have any kind of control. The Republicans enjoyed control of the Congress and the White House for Six long years and look at the mess they've put us in! We need a Dem congress and Dem president to get us back on the right track...that would be balance.
Posted by: SerenityLater | Oct 6, 2008 2:38:23 PM
McCain can try turning the page, but he's not holding the book. We the people decide what issues concern us and how they will affect our vote. I already knew about Ayers, Wright, and Rezko when I voted for Obama in the primary. I will vote for Obama again in the general election. People have forgotten or do not know that McCain was one of the Keating Five involved the the Savings & Loan scandal in 1989. Now they will be reminded. Obama for POTUS!
Posted by: dave | Oct 6, 2008 2:31:53 PM
It seems that 95% of these posts are nothing more than rants equal to yelling at a wall. Since neither camp is willing to admit the imperfect nature of their position(s), I figure there's a cathartic value in the ranting. I'd like a turn.
Like many, I voted for HRC - now I'm an island in this storm.
Though I historically favor the dems' social positions, I'm fiscally conservative. Now that the dems are pushing Obama, I have a choice to support a candidate far left of my comfort zone - on both fiscal and social issues. Then there's McCain - closer to the center, but sprinkled with some pandering to the right.
For me, it comes down to congress. Let's face it, they're about as lame a group of do-nothings as I've ever seen. A dem majority and they still can't put meaningful legislation in from of Bush. Nancy and Harry spend more time bashing the right than doing their jobs. I'd have 1000% more respect if they made Bush get out a Republican veto pen.
So the question is, do we put a dem in the White House and give all the dems blank checks? Or let congress and McCain duke it out? I'll take the latter.
Why? Take one of the biggest criticisms of the Paulson Plan (i.e. bailout). "Too much power and money in one guy's hands." Putting Obama in the WH is the equivalent - who's gonna keep the gang of dems in check? A republican minority? You don't have to agree with the 'other party' to admit the concentrated governmental authority is a bad thing.
Which brings me back to HRC. Would I vote for her if she had defeated Obama (all other congressional variables unchanged)? Probably - for 2 reasons. 1) She's a polarizing (read, independent) figure. Lots of dems don't like her. And she's actually worked across the aisle in this world. 2) I know Bill isn't supposed to count...but, we can't ignore him. And his influence wouldn't be all bad. Consider his efforts when supported by a dem congress. Didn't take advantage. Then again, the dem leaders weren't shrill partisans like the Harry and Nancy show.
Wow, I do feel a little better.
Posted by: SerenityNow | Oct 6, 2008 2:31:22 PM
I will support a lower tax rate for the rich as soon as they start contributing the same percentage to Social Security that us poor people have to pay.
Posted by: Dave | Oct 6, 2008 2:27:28 PM
cardinal, Dr. King's dream has come true. I am judging Obama by the content of his character - and have found him completely unfit to be POTUS!
McCain/Palin '08!
Posted by: marylou | Oct 6, 2008 2:12:16 PM
John McCain sat on a board.
"It was the U.S. Council for World Freedom. It was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub who wound up involved in the Iran Contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative right-wing group.
Posted by: 2Shay | Oct 6, 2008 1:32:24 PM
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You forgot that this "board" promoted Anti Semitic and Racist ideals!!!
Posted by: Davis | Oct 6, 2008 2:11:35 PM
Such a shame that we are about ready to enter a recession and all ABC news can do is write story after story about Palin.
Palin whines about the media and right off the bat, ABC kisses her butt.
There are more important stories to write about than Palin flapping her jaws about things she has no clue about.
Its not news worthy.
Why no stories about Palin's husbands membership in the AIP ?
Come on Jake be fair or find another line or work...
Posted by: l | Oct 6, 2008 2:11:05 PM
If McCain-Palin have dropped out in Michigan, does that mean the formerly productive American workers who once built Mavericks for Ford in that state know that model is a discontinued antique?
Posted by: ricky | Oct 6, 2008 2:05:05 PM
If Obama wins, I predict that the economy will continue to be in crisis. He will blame republicans, ignoring democrats' hands in the problem as well, and sadly announce that it will be necessary to raise taxes on people and businesses with incomes well below $250,000. Hey if GB could say no new taxes, why not Obama? He will also continue his social justice agenda, further placing our country in debt. We will see, hope all that hope and change helps...
UNLESS, he does as Clinton did, at the behest of the republican house and LOWERS the corporate tax rate to a European level at least. What?, you say? A European level? Yep. Shouldn't we at least have a lower rate than DENMARK? 25% corporate rate in Denmark...hmmm.
Maybe, just maybe, businesses would be more likely to do business in the US if they could at least compete with EUROPE!
It is really not that hard...
Posted by: Wade | Oct 6, 2008 2:02:36 PM
If Obama wins in November, you'll long for the good old days when the Dow only dipped below 10,000. Between November and January 20th, smart people will be selling their stocks in order to avoid paying the higher capital gains taxes Obama will impose. The only suckers caught in the falling market will be the common man with their 401k's they're too young to withdraw from.
All Obama has to do is crack open a history book and read how higher taxes prolong economic downturns. But he's either too lazy to read or knows that scenario doesn't play into the class warfare that's his only chance of winning.
Posted by: marylou | Oct 6, 2008 2:01:39 PM
Thank heavens the McCain campaign has turned the page on this financial crisis. The fact the rest of the nation has not proves his cheif economic adviser Phil Gramm was right when he called the U.S. a nation of whiners. Who you gonna believe, your 401K filtered by media elites or that nice Sarah Palin? You betcha. Wink, wink.
Posted by: ricky | Oct 6, 2008 2:01:20 PM
Can’t win on domestic policy
Can’t win on international policy
Can’t win on tax policy
Can’t win on medical care policy
Can’t win on financial policy
Can’t win on credibility (thanks Palin!)
Can’t win on judgment
Can’t win on personality
Can’t win with old war stories
Can’t win with a winking Pageant Princess
Can’t even win getting all mavericky
Uh, lets try name calling and fear tactics?
“I would rather sell my integrity than lose an election”
Posted by: Gettin Mavericky | Oct 6, 2008 1:57:04 PM
Ok, the Keating scandal will tar McCain for a few days, at least well after the debate. Obama should keep hammering McCain's social security invested to the stock market, McCain's health care tax and the economy tying McCain to Bush. But Obama is going to need another McCain scandal along the horizon. Does anyone know what that will be?
Posted by: Shawn | Oct 6, 2008 1:48:15 PM
What does it mean when David Axelrod says there's "no evidence" they were close?
That's pretty slippery. He can ask Obama, and speak directly for Obama. He should be able to say, "Obama says they were not close". Saying there's no evidence sounds as if he simply thinks someone else can't prove they were close, but they may well have been.
Obama and Axelrod have both had to change their stories as new evidence has come up.
Why were they not just direct and honest from the beginning?
Posted by: MayBee | Oct 6, 2008 1:46:03 PM
John McCain sat on a board.
"It was the U.S. Council for World Freedom. It was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub who wound up involved in the Iran Contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative right-wing group.
Posted by: 2Shay | Oct 6, 2008 1:32:24 PM
So this is the "NEW" Republican party?
Uh, right.
Same old party, same old ideas, and same old tactics (Or is it a stategy Maverick?)
Posted by: Gettin Mavericky | Oct 6, 2008 1:30:29 PM
And while McCain enjoys his afternoon nap and Lyin Sarah worries about "our neighbor" Afganistan, the financial meltdown continues:
-European markets close down a record 7.8%
and
-The dollar continues its slide (down 6% against the Yen since last Thurs.)
Oh, Sarah, what would a maverick do????
One thing she wouldn't do is read the newspaper...especially when European brokers are describing the market as:
"It's just in free fall. The outlook is still very bearish and we are nowhere near the bottom. There is no reason to buy anything at the moment."
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Oh, and John McCain and Sarah Palin better get Mavericky with all those Grand Ol Party people in the White House. While George Bush is hiding under his desk with Barney, Hank Paulson is turning the whole financial sector over to all his Goldman Sachs cronies.
Posted by: Bud | Oct 6, 2008 1:29:11 PM
McCain has lost, why because he is running a smear campaign and NOT adressing the issues, what he would do to fix them. After all he said he doesn't know it.
Posted by: Ranger Phx | Oct 6, 2008 1:27:10 PM
And while McCain enjoys his afternoon nap and Lyin Sarah worries about "our neighbor" Afganistan, the financial meltdown continues:
-European markets close down a record 7.8%
and
-The dollar continues its slide (down 6% against the Yen since last Thurs.)
Oh, Sarah, what would a maverick do????
One thing she wouldn't do is read the newspaper...especially when European brokers are describing the market as:
"It's just in free fall. The outlook is still very bearish and we are nowhere near the bottom. There is no reason to buy anything at the moment."
---
Oh, and John McCain and Sarah Palin better get Mavericky with all those Grand Ol Party people in the White House. While George Bush is hiding under his desk with Barney, Hank Paulson is turning the whole financial sector over to all his Goldman Sachs cronies.
Posted by: Bud | Oct 6, 2008 1:26:52 PM
Cardinal - I wish you the best of luck finding a politician who won't lie to you. If you think McCain / Palin ticket your white knight who will never lie to you about controversial supporters or issues that are equally not as "mainstream" as Obama. Fine. Sleep tight beliving that. The fact is all politicians lie. But some have lies that are more damaging to the American people than others. Ayers isn't one of them.
Posted by: Muppetz | Oct 6, 2008 1:16:35 PM
Palin's fantastically absurd
lies are rendering her totally
irrelevant in this presidential
contest.
Posted by: anon | Oct 6, 2008 1:14:16 PM