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"When did the Annenberg Foundation, founded by a Reagan Republican, realize that Bill Ayers was a domestic terrorist and why did they give him $50 million to improve education in Chicago?"
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NObody in Chicago, or in the corporate world, EVER didn't know about Bill Ayers' supposedly-"revolutionary" activities in the sixties.

The question nobody's discussing is whether it isn't quite likely that Ayers was working for the corporate side all along.

Here the right question to ask about Obama, Ayers, and the CAC:

When did the Annenberg Foundation, founded by a Reagan Republican, realize that Bill Ayers was a domestic terrorist and why did they give him $50 million to improve education in Chicago?

Or to back up one more step:

When did tens of Chicago educators and administrators realize that Bill Ayers was a domestic terrorist and why did they submit a $50 million grant proposal with him to improve local schools?

In 1995, when Obama was asked to chair the CAC board, 100s of people were already involved in organizing the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Multiple foundations, administrators, and educators were already working with Ayers.

This group included presidents of banks and universities, business leaders, and foundation heads. Many involved were older and from Chicago, and unlike Obama, certainly knew Ayers' history as a local domestic terrorist during the Vietnam era.

Was it an issue for any of them at the time that Obama was asked to join?

Would they have warned him? Would they have considered it a concern? Would they have even mentioned it?

Ask them, Jake?

"[Obama] didn't reveal that he endorsed Bill Ayers book and helped launch it at a forum at the University of Illinois (Chicago) arranged by Michelle Obama. Oh - he also wrote a blurb in the front of it! Also, Michelle Obama worked with Bill Ayer's wife, Bernadine Dorne, at the same law firm for 3 years ... Now, ask yourself, why was Obama trying to hide his association with Ayers?"
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Yeah: why WAS he? Why IS he? And what about the campaign's jettisoning of Mike Klonsky from the campaign website?

Meanwhile, Obama's stump speeches sound less like communism, and more like fascism.

Voting for Ralph Nader couldn't hurt.

When asked about Bill Ayers, Obama said, "Uh, he is just a guy in my neighborhood."

When asked about Bill Ayers association with Obama, Axelrod said, "they live in the same neighborhood and their kids go to the same school".

Give me a break! Obama tried to hide his connections to Bill Ayers. Obama did not reveal that indeed, he did have "executive" experience - he served as chairman on the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge - for 5 years - with Bill Ayers. He also served on The Wood Fund with Bill Ayers for 9 years. He didn't reveal that one of his first "coming-out" parties (politically) was held at the home of Bill Ayers. He didn't reveal that he endorsed Bill Ayers book and helped launch it at a forum at the University of Illinois (Chicago) arranged by Michelle Obama. Oh - he also wrote a blurb in the front of it! Also, Michelle Obama worked with Bill Ayer's wife, Bernadine Dorne, at the same law firm for 3 years. And, their kids do not go to the same school - they are over 20 years apart in age!

Now, ask yourself, why was Obama trying to hide his association with Ayers?

Barack Obama Should Withdraw As The Democratic Nominee:

Yesterday, the Las Vegas offices of the Association of Community Organizations (ACORN) was raided by Nevada State Agents.

ACORN is an organization that works to get low income people to vote. The Nevada Secretary of State's office said that the investigators were looking for evidence of voter fraud. ACORN Has Been Implicated In Similar Schemes In 14 Other States - Including Ohio, Where A Worker Traded Crack Cocaine For Fraudulent Registrations."

So, what does this have to do with Barack Obama and his possible withdrawal as the Standard Bearer of his Party? To find out the answer to that we have to go back to the 1990's and to William Ayers. Mr. Obama's past activities in ACORN could be the very thing that will ultimately cause him to withdraw-or certainly he will be forced to withdraw if the allegations against him prove to be true, and it looks like there is cause for serious concern.

Some Facts:

Senator Obama was the first Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Division, or Project, of the Annenberg Foundation. William Ayers, the notorious Unrepentant Weather Underground Terrorist, a friend of the Obamas, was key in founding the Challenge, largely due to his connections to Mayor Richard Daley of Chicago. Noteworthy is the fact that Ayers father, Thomas Ayers, former CEO of ComED which was owned by Exelon, was a close friend of Daley's father, who had also been Mayor of Chicago (the current CEO of ComEd, Frank M. Clark, is a major money handler for the Obama campaign).

The MSM or Main Stream Media has been purposely shelving this story for a long time, but as the old saying goes.."The truth ultimately prevails". It looks as if the truth of the extent of Obama's relationship with William Ayers is not the truth as presented by Barack Obama. When Obama made his first run for political office, articles in both the Chicago Defender and the Hyde Park Herald featured among his qualifications his position as chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a foundation where Ayers was not only a founder but influential with key Chicago officials.

During Obama’s tenure as Annenberg board chairman, Ayers’s personal education projects received substantial funding. During its first year, the CAC struggled with serious concerns about possible conflicts of interest. With a writ to aid Chicago’s public schools, the Annenberg challenge played a deeply political role in Chicago’s education skirmishes and as Annenberg board chairman, Obama clearly aligned himself with Ayers’s radical views on education issues. With Obama heading up the board and Ayers heading up the other key operating body of the Annenberg Challenge, the two had a close working relationship for years (“exchanging ideas on a regular basis”).

Therefore, when Ayers and Dorhn hosted that kickoff for the first Obama campaign, it was not random at all, but rather, further evidence of a close and ongoing political partnership. This relationship clearly contradicts Obama’s dismissal of the significance of his relationship with Ayers. Obviously Bill Ayers was not just “a guy who lives in my neighborhood” as Obama stated ever so casually as the extent of their relationship. The relationship was much more intimate than he led the American people to believe. In short, he lied to the American people.

Obama’s service at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge not only raises serious questions about the truthfulness of his account of his relationship with Ayers but other questions as to possible voter fraud and what really happened during the Democratic primaries.

ACORN has received payments of nearly a million dollars from the Barack Obama Campaign in 2008. Apparently the payments were funneled through Citizens Services Inc., and may have been falsely reported to the FEC. Other grantees during their tenure included PLO employee Rashid Khalidi and the Obamas' church, Trinity United. Access to the CAC records promises to provide a treasure of documentary evidence which is now just beginning to come out, from Obama’s policy views, to his political-ideological views, and a plethora of other information concerning him and his connection with William Ayers.

The intended use of the money, which was to educate children in a wholesome and traditional manner was not done at all. Obama instead, personally taught Radicalism to young students. Various proposals from groups focused on math/science achievement for example were all turned down. Instead CAC distributed money through far-left community organizers, such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (or ACORN) which again, is under investigation for Fraud.

Obama's Radical Activities:

Obama's radical activities are well noted during this period. Obama actively sought and received the stamp of approval of a Marxist third party that operated briefly in Chicago between 1992 and 1998. The New Party was a Marxist political coalition whose objective was to endorse and elect leftist public officials -most often Democrats. The New Party's short-term objective was to move the Democratic Party leftward, thereby setting the stage for the eventual rise of new Marxist third party.

Most New Party members hailed from the Democratic Socialists of America and the militant organization ACORN. The party's Chicago chapter also included a large contingent from the Committees of Correspondence, a Marxist coalition of former Maoists, Trotskyists, and Communist Party USA members.

Obviously there will be more revelations to come in the following days. In my view, Barack Obama should consider withdrawing as the Democratic Nominee. The investigation will almost certainly result in very serious charges such as voter fraud, malfeasance, and misappropriation of funds to name just a few. Surely that is not what the Democratic Party nor the country needs, especially when America is in a terrible crisis, both with the economy and war.

I was wondering why is was never mentioned that Obama campaigned for his cousin's presidential run in Kenya. His cousin basically wanted to ban public christianity and wanted to provide a safe haven for islamic radicals in kenya. His cousins slogan was even similar to Obama's. That is not opinion, it is fact.

By the reasoning of the republicans, McCain cannot be President because he "pals" around with Obama (in the Senate). Hell, McCain shook Obama's hand at the debate.

Obama/Biden 08!

Everyone probably knows someone who has a shady past that we are not aware of. Some of us have friends and relatives who have views that are not popular and we try to overlook. Senator Obama seems to know a lot of people with shady pasts that he doesn’t know about until the press reports it. He knows people who he counts as close family friends and vows to stand by until death, or until they becomes a political liability. Which ever comes first. ... The worst thing the Obama people can dig up about Sen. McCain is the Keating 5 scandal. The investigation proved that he had done nothing wrong. ... Senator Obama is a dangerous leftist. He vows to raise taxes on business owners who will pass the cost to us, we pay indirectly. He won’t listen to professional soldiers who have spent a lifetime studying and gaining experience for war. He will circumvent the Second Amendment whenever possible and surrender our sovereignty to the UN. I half hope he makes is just so I can say “I tried to tell you.”

I seem to recall that Mr McCain was reprimanded for his bad decision for supporting Mr Keating. Bad decision, does anyone hear that? Mr Mcain has been supporting a losing agenda, one bad decision by this president over and over again. How many bad decisions does he get to make and keep supporting as president? I don't want to watch that or pay that price again. The war, taking away our freedoms in a bill pushed through fearmongering, the economy, the disgraceful response after Hurricane Katrina, the deregulation of companies that needed to be regulated, wasteful spending of money meant to protect us in our communities become payday earmarks, electing people with no real experience but to expand the good ole boy network, and on and on and on. Stop the hemorrage, change the bandage! Get on board with Obama are you nuts or just stubborn?

Don't say Obama's middle name.
Don't ask him about his radical work associates.
Don't ask him about his radical minister.
Don't ask him about his radical wife.
Don't vet him.
Don't ask him follow up questions.
Don't ask him what he has accomplished.
Don't ask him about his core principals.
Don't hold him to his words because his wwords don't matter.

Once upon a time I met someone who would later become a friend. At the time of meeting him, he seemed well spoken, had made great strides in his community. He supported acts to reform domestic violence, assisted the elderly, worked in soup kitchens from time to time.

He was quite a wonderful being. Turns out however, when I was young, I was naive and trusting. I let the man into my home, and while he has done nothing out of the ordinary, I found he his past was murky. He had done things he wasn't so proud of.

My friends and colleagues now condemn me, even though many differing books on religion point to a level of "understanding" and fairness. My life is now shattered because of his actions, when I wholeheartedly knew nothing of his past.

Irrespective of his current progress in life, reforming himself, he should forever be condemned for his actions 20 years ago. In fact he should face the death penalty. There is no reform, once a bad person, always a bad person period. We need the punishing laws of the US where if someone gets a parking ticket, it will forever remain on their record.

Job Interview: "Have you ever been convicted of a crime?" xYes No

Off with their head. We don't need a society who is forgiving of the past. We need a society that cries over the milk we spilled last week. What else is there to focus on in this economy. Politics?

A GOP member agrees William Ayers' past was unknown to many in Chicago politics, including Obama.

"John McCain has accepted over one thousand dollars in campaign money from Arnie Weber, a known associate of 'domestic terrorist' William Ayers." "Arnold R. "Arnie" Weber was Assistant Secretary of Labor and Associate Director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Richard Nixon. Arnie Weber, who also held several other Washington insider jobs, is a former president of the Commercial Club of Chicago’s Civic Committee and is a longtime Republican donor. Most startlingly, from 1995 through 1999, Arnie Weber was a Board Member of the infamous Chicago Annnenberg Challenge founded by known domestic terrorist Bill Ayers."

Walter Annenberg, a lifelong Republican and former ambassador who was appointed by Presidents Nixon and Reagan, funded an ambitious program to reform urban education in many cities in the mid 1990s. Ayers was an important member of the group that developed and wrote the grant proposal to the Annenberg Foundation.

"It was never a concern by any of us in the Chicago school reform movement that he had led a fugitive life years earlier," said former Illinois state Republican Rep. Diana Nelson, who worked with both Obama and Ayers over the years. "It's ridiculous. There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It's nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It's so silly."

"John McCain has accepted over one thousand dollars in campaign money from Arnie Weber, a known associate of 'domestic terrorist' William Ayers." "Arnold R. "Arnie" Weber was Assistant Secretary of Labor and Associate Director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Richard Nixon. Arnie Weber, who also held several other Washington insider jobs, is a former president of the Commercial Club of Chicago’s Civic Committee and is a longtime Republican donor. Most startlingly, from 1995 through 1999, Arnie Weber was a Board Member of the infamous Chicago Annnenberg Challenge founded by known domestic terrorist Bill Ayers."

Annenberg? The GOP member who agrees William Ayers' past was unknown to many in Chicago politics, including Obama? That Walter Annenberg?

But anyway...McCain took Arnie Weber's $1500 contribution and hasn't given it back.

Aussie: Not exactly true. Tony Rezko was a chief fundraiser for Obama. His campaign is breathing a sigh of relief. It's just amazing that after all this time, the sentencing is suddenly delayed "indefinately." Why it's almost like an Obama miracle!

"Let not forget Sarah Palin association's with the radical Alaska Independence Party that wants to secede from this great country, the United States of America.'

All STATES WANT TO SECEDE FROM THE UNION
at one time or another!

Heck! I remember when Long Island wanted to secede from New York!

Jimmy Carter ran for office from a state which tried to secede!Leave SARAH ALONE!

SHE BITES!

RL in Illinois

Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has already stated there is no alegation or evidence of any wrong doing on Barack Obama's part!

So who care when he is sentenced ?

"The (obama) campaign realizes that nipping these McCain attacks in the bud does two things..'

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And they do it by sneaking their disrupters into the peaceful listeners to generate noise and annoyance and invade the rights of those people rightfully gathered to hear what the campaigner has to say.

In other words, Obama's cultists interfere with the freedom of speech and the right for peaceful groups to congregate .... granted us by the Constitution of this land!

They did it at the Republican convention and at almost every Republican gathering of any size.

They do because they are afraid.... very afraid.... that if people were to hear the "other side", Obama nation would fall swiftly by the wayside.

Tony Rezko was scheduled to be sentenced October 28th. Mysteriously that has now been delayed indefinitely. Now how is it Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, who has been hell bent to get the Governor through Rezko, all of a sudden called off the sentencing that was to happen right before the election? Tony's been talking to the Feds. Word in Chicago and Springfield is the Obama campaign is resting a little easier.

I don't have a specific favorite; so I can go either way: O. or Mc., or neither one. Not an opinion but my sense is just telling me that Mc. may have no big "CHANGE"-potential, which could be good or bad, while O. may have BIG-CHANGE potential, which could be BIG-GOOD or BIG-BAD......the answer is not clear in my mind, yet.

Mesquito,

I think the more appropriate question is why is McCain best buds with Liddy, Singlaub and why did he choose a veep with a terrorist affiliation? Didn't he vet her?

Obama/Biden all the way!

Jake, you are really reaching here. No "...clear explaination of their relationship from the Obama campaign".

On the Obama website it states: "William Ayers is a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, with whom Barack served on the board of an education-reform organization in the mid-1990’s."

I think that is pretty clear. I don't know how you could get any more clear than that. Questioning if he knew Ayres' past when he met or when did he find out about it is ridiculous. Asking those questions is biased coverage.

You make it sound like knowing Ayres is somehow unseemly.

How is it unseemly to know somebody? What is this country coming to? Back in the day, we wrote a Bill of Rights that enshrined the right to freedom of association. Why? Because here in America we believe that you judge people on their own actions, not the actions of others.

McCain really doesn't get it.
It's going downhill with the elections and I'm a amazed he just keeps making the wrong decisions and then blames it on Obama.

Keep on making these raging attacks ...
it only will turn undecided voters away. The attack on the media and the anti-Obama hysteria and hatred just scare them away.

Latest poll 9 points ahead..

Ryan C:

If "nipping in the bud" means downplaying and willfully obfuscating obvious truths about their relationship, then those goals may well be attained.

Here is how dumb Axelrod and co. think we are:
Wow. He didn't know...

Hey, Barack, want to go to a fundraiser for you down the street?

Sure, who is hosting it? Bill Ayers and his wife Bernadine Dohrn.

Who are they?

Education professor, great guy. Used to be a fugitive-Weather Underground...ever hear of them? She is a law professor too...you ever run into her? She was a BIG radical--WU too. Blew stuff up, almost killed people but never quite hit anyone. You never heard of the WU, huh?

No, sorry.

What? I thought you went Columbia and Harvard and Yale? You surely took some classes on the sixties, since you were into community organizing. Better get your money back. I know guys in community college with a better understanding of history than that..oh well...

This is now more than being about Ayers's past...it is not about Obama's blatant dishonesty in distancing himself from Ayers.

Embedded within a comprehensive Monday report from NPR on Barack Obama's history with William Ayers, there is an interesting bit of straight talk from a former Republican who served in the state legislature.

Discussing Ayers' rehabilitation as a member in good standing of the education policy-wonk community, former state Republican Rep. Diana Nelson said: "It was never a concern by any of us in the Chicago school reform movement that he had led a fugitive life years earlier ... It's ridiculous. There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It's nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It's so silly."

Sarah Palin said Obama should be "disqualified" for his remark about Afghanistan. Naturally, she will hold her running mate to the same standard.

John McCain in 2000 said because of tactical decisions U.S. troops were put in the position of killing civilians in Kosovo -- something awfully similar to the comments he's now attacking Barack Obama for.

During a Republican primary debate in 2000 McCain called the Clinton strategy in Kosovo "obscene" because it forced troops into using tactics that meant civilians were going to get killed.

"In the most obscene chapter in recent American history is the conduct of the Kosovo conflict when the president of the United States refused to prepare for ground operations, refused to have air power used effectively because he wanted them flying -- he had them flying at 15,000 feet where they killed innocent civilians because they were dropping bombs from such -- in high altitude."

Palin today: "Obama said, too, that our troops in Afghanistan are ‘air raiding villages and killing civilians,’” Palin said, mischaracterizing a 2007 remark by Obama. “I hope Americans know that is not what our brave men and women in uniform are doing in Afghanistan. The U.S. military is fighting terrorism and protecting us and protecting our freedom.” Shortly afterward, a male member of the crowd in Jacksonville, Florida, yelled “treason!” loudly enough to be picked up by television microphones.

Palin and McCain can’t be held responsible for the fact that racists are part of their base, but now she has people thinking Barack Obama is a traitor purely because she’s misleading them into thinking that he is. This is on her.

Matthew

"The campaign realizes that nipping these McCain attacks in the bud does two things...

It reassures antsy Dems and unconvinced swing voters that Obama will defend himself against these "outrageous lies."

It also manages to keep the McCain talking points off the air and out of the campaign dialogue. How can the attacks stay in the headlines if Obama keeps rebutting them with harsh jabs of his own? "

Good analysis.

The campaign realizes that nipping these McCain attacks in the bud does two things...

It reassures antsy Dems and unconvinced swing voters that Obama will defend himself against these "outrageous lies."

It also manages to keep the McCain talking points off the air and out of the campaign dialogue. How can the attacks stay in the headlines if Obama keeps rebutting them with harsh jabs of his own?

MORE INFO ON AIP - TODD PALIN'S ANTI-AMERICAN SECESSIONIST GROUP

AIP's founder Joe Vogler's greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States "tyranny" before the entire world and to demand Alaska's freedom. The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue...

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Thursday the solution to the Middle East crisis is to destroy Israel.
So much for Palin's tough talk on Iran. Her friends in the AIP were clearly collaborating with Iran. Her husband was clearly a member of this fringe party for seven years. And Sarah Palin herself clearly supported them, praising their "good work" and asking God to "bless them" only this year.

Vogler's greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States "tyranny" before the entire world and to demand Alaska's freedom. The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue.

That's right ... Iran. The Islamic dictatorship. The taker of American hostages. The rogue nation that McCain and Palin have excoriated Obama for suggesting we diplomatically engage. That Iran.

AIP leaders allege that Vogler, who was murdered that year by a fellow secessionist, was taken out by powerful forces in the U.S. before he could reach his U.N. platform. "The United States government would have been deeply embarrassed," by Vogler's U.N. speech, darkly suggests Clark. "And we can't have that, can we?"

Take the brackets out.

John McCain’s lead has been cut by over half in Alaska, but he still leads Barack Obama by 15 points, 55% to 40%, in the latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of voters in the state.

A month ago, in the first poll since McCain named Alaska’s highly popular governor, Sarah Palin, as his running mate, the Republican led Obama 64% to 33%. In the two months prior to that, he was ahead by just five.

Jim Cramer (bald guy financial show)

What will New York look like a year from now? The answer: bad and probably worse, and perhaps downright catastrophic. Three degrees of awful. The first step was passing the bank-bailout legislation. Now that it’s done—and if it didn’t get done we would have been looking at a guaranteed economic collapse—the critical issue will be presidential leadership. And while any president will be an improvement over the current one, there is a growing belief on Wall Street that Barack Obama has the capacity to lead us out of this wilderness while John McCain does not. I’ll go a step further: Obama is a recession. McCain is a depression.

'Cut and Paste': You might as well ask Obama why he works in the senate with people he disagrees with. The answer is self-evident - the work is the issue, not who else is part of the organization.

If you quit something every time you find yourself working with someone you disagree with on something unrelated to the work, you'd quit pretty much everything.

Also, it's a distortion to say that Ayers recruited Obama. His appointment was suggested by Deborah Leff, one of the working group of five who assembled the initial board that appointed Obama. Similarly for the Woods Fund. As politifact states, 'Neither chose the other to work with either group.'

hanna

Are you saying if I make 10,000 a year on top of living expenses and necessities, I should still pay taxes.

Aengil

Thank God Obama left Project Vote 2 years before ACORN took it over.

I just don't understand why Obama will not answer the one very basic question - why did he serve for seven years on an education board with Ayers, knowing Ayers' background (he was recruited by Ayers to serve as chairman - they served on another board together too) If Obama answers that question honestly, I'll have new respect for him, but avoiding the questions only makes us wonder why he refuses to talk about it.

Post a shorter cut & paste without links.
Cut & paste with imbedded links tend to get removed.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 7, 2008 6:53:58 PM
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thanks - i didn't think there were any links! i'll try again.

Post a shorter cut & paste without links.

Cut & paste with imbedded links tend to get removed.

What do Bush and Palin have in common?

They're both idiots!

This post is correct about one thing.

Obama and Axelrod both are setting the bar very low for Obama in this debate. Both saying that the "town hall" is McCain's best format, etc. etc.

This is exactly what they did last week as well, before Biden debated Palin. They stated that she was one of the best debaters in American Politics, or something of that nature.

Of course, if Obama had acquiesced to any of those town hall debates that McCain had proposed months ago, he might have more of a leg up going into this one.

Why can't Axelrod and Gibbs answer a simple question: When did Barack Obama learn that his buddy Bill Ayers was a terrorist? I mean, all they have to do is ask their candidate. And BTW, why is ABC deleting this: What's do Obama have in common? They both have terrorist friends who attacked the Pentagon!

Personally, I’m against any one, group, political party, or other organization, that undermines democratic principles, like, ummm counting votes, or pressuing the winning candidate out of a political race.

Democrats have been feeding us their line for decades… we were willing to buy it because they were the lesser of two evils. Then the ######, ( including the patriarchal handmaids) showed us their true colors…
the depth of their sexist bs, their willingness to allow it without so much as a peep from their quarter, the vile rulings in this last cycle of primary elections (I won’t begin the litany of violations and manipulations), etc. Don’t get me started on your boy’s racist crap either.

Don’t come in here and try to pretend that the Republicans are the exclusive party of sexism… we know better.
Where their are unenlightened boys, there is sexism, right wing, left wing, doesnt matter. Take a look at some of the blogs… and then try to convince us that the Republicans have the corner on sexism.

Where there are no fair elections, where votes aren’t counted, and elections are rigged, political positions matter not one iota.

Question: What do Osama Bin Laden and Barak Obama have in common?

Answer: They both have friends who blew up the Pentagon.

"There is nothing you can hook on him as most Americans like the guy....he's done nothing wrong...."

He's apparently cheated on his taxes in addition to being a member a secessionist party. And it remains to be seen if he inappropriately wielding the power of the governor's office (we find out Oct 10th)

"Campaign has her tied up again, as she has always been a detriment."

Michele has been out on the trail, campaigning for Obama, she will be in MN this week.

She will be appearing on the Daily Show and Larry King.

First Dude is sweating whether he will get a call from the IRS or the Alaskan legislature and Cindy is wondering if she can top spending $300K she spent for the RNC on an outfit for election day.

"The raid is the latest of at least nine investigations into possible fraudulent voter registration forms submitted by ACORN "

The Republican party currently has about a dozen investigations involving members of Congress, their aides, Bush admin members etc.

I guess the Republican Party is a criminal organization using HP Boston;s logic.

Ryan, seriously you are the only one with a crush on Todd Palin.
There is nothing you can hook on him as most Americans like the guy....he's done nothing wrong....not like he's said "For the first time, I'm proud of my country because my wife is running", or "America is a mean place".....that would be the lovely Michelle.
Campaign has her tied up again, as she has always been a detriment.

"The raid is the latest of at least nine investigations into possible fraudulent voter registration forms submitted by ACORN -- the probes have involved ACORN workers in Wisconsin, New Mexico, Indiana and other states."

Wow! At least NINE? You don't say!

Of course, to put your numbers in perspective, ACORN has over 350,000 members in over 100 cities. And their latest voter registration drive has registered over 1.3 million voters in 21 states.

But yeah, those nine investigations show ACORN is completely corrupt. All those 1.3 million voters are made up. Of course they are. It's not just a few rogue members abusing the system. Noooo, ACORN is evil! Evil I tell you!

Sheesh.

Top Dems behind this timing of the economic crisis....plays right into B. Hussein's hands, as some Americans are too stupid to see his economic plan is not the way to go....AND FOR ALL YOU WELFARE RECIPIANTS AND OTHERS WITH YOUR HANDS OUT....THERE IS NOTHING MORE YOU ARE GOING TO GET.
OBAMA SAYS 95% OF AMERICANS WON'T HAVE THEIR TAXES RAISED.....WHEN 35% DON'T PAY TAXES NOW!!!! The lower income families are not paying now and we're paying their share....folks there is only monopoly money Obama is going to give you.

"have you noticed no one is covering Todd Palin's anything other than love of THIS country"

You mean FoxNews's nauseating First Dude interview carried out by a fawning Greta?

First Dude will now have to answer questions regarding Troopergate.

Also what is First Dude's official role and why is he copied on government business emails and privy to government meetings when he is neither elected or hired as an advisor?

"Obama is up in the polls. The Dow keeps dropping faster. Coincidence? Do you think those tax and wealth redistribution proposals make the markets want to celebrate?"

As pure an example of specious reasoning if there ever was one.

Ryan C....have you noticed no one is covering Todd Palin's anything other than love of THIS country? Do you really think Americans think the Palins are anything other than ALL AMERICAN? Let's not even go there as Barack Hussein has so much crap tying him to ANTI AMERICAN ASSOCIATIONS, Muslim dads, terriorist half brother, terriorst contributors to his campaign, hateful Rev., radical Anti American associations THAT HE ACTS LIKE HE NEVER KNOWS.....DO WE REALLY WANT A PRESIDENT THIS STUPID HE DOESN'T KNOW ANIT AMERICAN WHEN IT HITS HIM IN THE FACE?

Obama is up in the polls. The Dow keeps dropping faster. Coincidence? Do you think those tax and wealth redistribution proposals make the markets want to celebrate?

"len what did you think of someone yelling out "Kill him" at a Palin rally"

Every party's got a pooper, Ryan.

"Ready to blame that on Obama?"

No. He has enough hate mongering to account for. He doesn't need any help.

How about looking into the voter fraud in NV by ACORN (i.e. Obama campaign). McCain campaign better get those lawyers ready, as this is going to make the Bush/Gore result look like a tea party.
CHICAGO THUG POLITICS ALREADY AT WORK IN EARLY VOTING STATES......STOP VOTER FRAUD!
McCAIN/PALIN '08

Posted by: hanna | Oct 7, 2008 6:02:16 PM

But it's not the first time ACORN's been under investigation for registration irregularities. The raid is the latest of at least nine investigations into possible fraudulent voter registration forms submitted by ACORN -- the probes have involved ACORN workers in Wisconsin, New Mexico, Indiana and other states.

In 2006, ACORN also committed what Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed called the "worse case of election fraud" in the state's history.

In the case, ACORN submitted just over 1,800 new voter registration forms, and all but six of the 1,800 names were fake.

More recently, 27,000 registrations handled by the group from January to July 2008 "went into limbo because they were incomplete, inaccurate, or fraudulent," said James Terry, chief public advocate at the Consumers Rights League.

But it's not the first time ACORN's been under investigation for registration irregularities. The raid is the latest of at least nine investigations into possible fraudulent voter registration forms submitted by ACORN -- the probes have involved ACORN workers in Wisconsin, New Mexico, Indiana and other states.

In 2006, ACORN also committed what Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed called the "worse case of election fraud" in the state's history.

In the case, ACORN submitted just over 1,800 new voter registration forms, and all but six of the 1,800 names were fake.

More recently, 27,000 registrations handled by the group from January to July 2008 "went into limbo because they were incomplete, inaccurate, or fraudulent," said James Terry, chief public advocate at the Consumers Rights League.

Joe Vogler founded the AIP which Todd Palin was a member of for at least 7 years.

Vogler's greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States "tyranny" before the entire world and to demand Alaska's freedom. The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue.

The Secret Service is following up on media reports today that someone in the crowd at a McCain/Palin event suggested killing Barack Obama, according to Secret Service spokesman Malcolm Wiley. The shout of "kill him" followed a Sarah Palin rant on Obama's relationship with radical Chicagoan Bill Ayers.

Wiley says the Secret Service did not begin looking into the matter until press reports, namely Dana Milbank's article in the Washington Post, surfaced today, because no agents at the event heard anything. "The Secret Service did not hear any threatening statements directed at targets under its protection and no threatening statements were reported to us by law enforcement or citizens at the event," Wiley told Radar. Also unclear: whether the remark was directed at Obama or Ayers if the words were actually "kill" and "him."

Wiley said that the Secret Service had tried to get in touch with Milbank to get his account of the event but was unsuccessful. Were the they able to confirm the remark they'd "be looking to talk to that person," Wiley said. "We investigate everything because we take all threats seriously."

How about looking into the voter fraud in NV by ACORN (i.e. Obama campaign). McCain campaign better get those lawyers ready, as this is going to make the Bush/Gore result look like a tea party.
CHICAGO THUG POLITICS ALREADY AT WORK IN EARLY VOTING STATES......STOP VOTER FRAUD!
McCAIN/PALIN '08

Rich N.: Let's see.

1. Untrue.
2. Subjective, based on your definition of 'political activism'. Does not show Obama shares Ayer's radical beliefs.
3. You don't address the reason for opposition to the bill. Does not show Obama shares Ayer's radical beliefs.
4. A distortion. What Obama actually said was that we need enough troops in Afghanistan so that we're not forced to rely on airstrikes which inevitably result in civilian casualties. This is a valid point, supported by the facts. This does not show Obama shares Ayer's radical beliefs.
5. These are quotes from Michelle Obama, not Obama himself, taken out of context. However, even if you take them on face value (which you shouldn't), thinking America is downright mean, and only recently becoming proud of it, does not show that Obama shares Ayer's radical beliefs.
6. ACORN has over 350,000 members, in around 850 neighbourhood groups. Do you really think they're all involved in voter fraud? Support (note: you don't specify the nature of said support) for ACORN does not prove any ill intent on the part of the supporter. Nor does it show that Obama shares Ayer's radical beliefs.

So that's zero out of six. You get an F.

LOL no wonder Obama looks like a fool, Axelrod can't even answer a straight question without using doubletalk.

I'm sorry, but Obama was on a couple boards with Ayers that pushed educational reform. Those boards were full of Republicans, Democrats and people of every political persuasion. I suppose it's possible that McCain supporters have never volunteered or served on a board. I guess it's possible they've never come together with people from different backgrounds to improve their community. I suppose they're merely ignorant that grown ups have to work with people they disagree with, even dislike, in order to make things better. I suppose...but what I think is more likely that you're all smarter than that. I think you know that Obama's not "palling around with terrorists" but you don't care that he's being smeared. You don't care that McCain is lying about him. You don't care about the real problems in this country. You just want to get your guy elected, and the ends justifies the means. And you have no problem pretending you're merely stupid by supporting McCain's desperation.

REMEMBER GANG-------KEEP AN EYE ON T BOON PICKINS----HE IS UP TO SOMETHING---AND IT ISNT WIND.
GOT TO GET MY SODA AND CHIPS FOR THE SHOW TONIGHT.

"The stock market reads the polls too. They know right now Obama is leading. They also know his economic plans are a recipe for an economic catastrophe."

len gets an A for made up reason to vote against Obama.

len what did you think of someone yelling out "Kill him" at a Palin rally.

Ready to blame that on Obama?

woody: "I could easily ask you to show me anything that he doesn't share the same beliefs as Ayers."

No you can't. That's a logical fallacy. It's called negative proof. Basically, you can't say "this is true, because there's no proof that it's false." because by that logic, McCain is really an alien in disguise. There's no proof he isn't.

You have to provide proof that your claims are true. That's the only way it works. Otherwise, you've got nothing.

"Dow's down another 400 points today."

The stock market reads the polls too. They know right now Obama is leading. They also know his economic plans are a recipe for an economic catastrophe.

So they are selling as simple act of self-preservation in the face of a predator