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Axelrod on Debates: Wonders if ‘McCain 7.0’ Will Show Up, Says Obama Has Learned McCain ‘Doesn't Like to Look at Him Very Often’
October 15, 2008 2:33 PM
The top adviser to Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., today contemplated whether Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., would introduce a new strategy at tonight's debate -- "McCain 7.0," he sneered -- and said the debates had clearly helped Obama rise in the polls.
"We've gained after each of these debates, including the VP debate, as I think people have gotten more familiar not just with the candidates but with the choice," said Obama's senior strategist David Axelrod.
"We're not in the business of reinventing ourselves from debate to debate," Axelrod told reporters as the Obama campaign plane flew from Toledo to New York City Wednesday afternoon. Axelrod said Obama's "consistency" throughout the debates, and the campaign in general, had helped him as he got to speak to 50-70 million of them without the filter of the media or his opponents' attack ads.
And what has Obama learned from these debates?
"He's learned that (McCain) doesn’t like to look at him very often," Axelrod said, noting the Republican's predilection for avoiding eye contact with his opponent. "I don't think it's of that much consequence" to Obama but "obviously, it was noted."
Axelrod added, "whatever the idiosyncrasies of Sen. McCain's debating style," Obama would focus on talking about issues. He said Obama was prepared for whatever questions or attacks might come his way this evening at Hofstra University at the third and final presidential debate, to be moderated by CBS News' Bob Schieffer. Obama intends to focus "on the future of the country" and focus on issues, hoping tonight's forum, with its focus on domestic issues, would allow the Democrat to talk more about energy, education and health care.
Tonight will be "the last chance for folks to see these candidates side by side and take the measure of them," said Axelrod, adding that this being the last debate would "accentuate the decision-making process for people still making their choices."
Axelrod said he personally thought Obama had impressed the American people.
McCain has suggested that since Obama remarked to ABC News' Charlie Gibson that McCain didn't make "to his face," in the last debate, any of the direct attacks on his character that his campaign had been making on the stump, he'd "assured" that McCain would at the very least raise Obama's relationship with former 60s radical William Ayers.
Axelrod disputed a reporter's characterization that Obama was "goad"ing McCain into raising the issue, saying Obama had merely been making "an observation." He said attacks like that "are not what the American people want to hear. ... There is such a seriousness of purpose among voters this year."
With all the talk of campaign tactics, and whether McCain can make a game-changing move tonight as Obama ascends in many polls, Axelrod said, "I think Sen. McCain's problem is fundamental, which is he's got a bad argument. He's essentially on the wrong side of history. He's arguing for a set of policies and an approach that have been discredited in a really dramatic way over the last eight years, and I’m not sure any stylistic change or approach in a debate can change that."
Obama has improved quite a bit as a debater since that first Democratic primary debate in South Carolina in April 2007, Axelrod said.
"He's honed his debating style over the course of these 25 debates," Axelrod said. "He's said before that the format of it wasn't always ... something that came naturally to him. I think he's mastered it very, very well."
ABC News pointed out that Obama was criticized for his response to a question in that first debate about what he would do immediately in response to another terrorist attack on U.S. soil.
Obama said then, "the first thing we'd have to do is make sure that we've got an effective emergency response, something that this administration failed to do when we had a hurricane in New Orleans."
That gave Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., the openings to say their first response would be to swiftly retaliate, and their campaigns said Obama's instincts were all wrong.
Axelrod seemed to acknowledge that Obama now gives more muscular responses to questions about terrorism, though "his views haven't changed."
-- Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller
October 15, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (155)
Really, Biden may make gaffes, but it's more due to spontaneity. When he's asked about things like policy issues, he's able to give detailed, intelligent answers that displayed his deep understanding. Palin, however, seemed to stick only to her talking points, at times did not answer the question at all, and just said "how mavericky" they were.
Emm, it was quite largely Bush's fault for bungling the hurricane response. Bush, for instance, rejected international aid offered by other countries, which would have greatly eased the burden on the workers. Not to mention he sent quite a fair bit of the National Guard which is responsible for responding to domestic crises to Iraq- thus they had less manpower- so that too, in its own way, played a part in this.
Posted by: Grey Matter | Oct 16, 2008 9:31:29 AM
Negative. It is the state and local authorities' responsibility and duty to foresee and prepare for natural disasters. FEMA is an afterthought to assist in cleanup/relocation/assistance (that part yes, was severely poorly managed).
Posted by: Emm | Oct 15, 2008 8:15:58 PM
"How about Biden saying during the last crash Roosevelt saw what was happening on TV although he wasn't President and TV hadn't been invented yet?"
"I can see Russia from my house!"
ROFLMAO!
Palin coming on the scene has brought great relief to Dan Quayle who had the previous dishonor of being known as the dumbest VP candidate in modern history.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 8:14:49 PM
"Palin is so dumb she called New Hampshire part of the NorthWest."
How about Biden saying during the last crash Roosevelt saw what was happening on TV although he wasn't President and TV hadn't been invented yet?
His undoing is his stupidity not his gender.
Posted by: thesame | Oct 15, 2008 8:08:27 PM
"the first thing we'd have to do is make sure that we've got an effective emergency response, something that this administration failed to do when we had a hurricane in New Orleans."
The Dems can't help but blame Bush for everything. It's amazing how blind there are. The failure was due to the state and local govt's inept leaders to foresee and prepare for Katrina, not Bush.
Posted by: Emm | Oct 15, 2008 8:02:19 PM
Palin is so dumb she called New Hampshire part of the NorthWest.
Her undoing is her stupidity not her gender.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 7:56:22 PM
"just keep drinking the Kool-aid"
S Adams,
You are the one repeating right wing bs even though you know they have lied to you.
Yet you still take their stories at face value. Why?
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 7:41:27 PM
Ryan C--just keep drinking the Kool-aid. You will believe Obama not matter what, even if he has no proven record to go by. You go ahead and believe Obama who has flip-flopped on every single issue, that he hasn't lied time and again about every aspect of his life, that he has thrown numerous people under the bus, even his own grandmother for his political aspirations. Many top economist have looked at Obama's economic plan and health plan and said it doesn't add up. I tend to believe them over an inexperienced Chicago thug.
I've outlined what is wrong with Obama's plans, and I get more info from legitimate sources, not Daily Kos or Huffington post.
Posted by: S Adams | Oct 15, 2008 7:28:58 PM
veryoffensive--not only is ageism a problem in the Obama campaign, but they are also being sexist against Palin. I thought the sexist attacks against Hillary was bad, and I didn't even support her, but the attacks and lies against Palin are just unbelievable and vicious.
Quote from the great Ronald Reagan:" ...I will not make age an issue, I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponents youth and inexperience"
John McCain reminds me a lot of Ronald Reagan. Both worked with both parties to bring about change and unity.
Obama, in his own words, said he tends to not have much sway with the Republican party. How does he expect to get anything done for this country if he can't work both sides of the aisle?
Posted by: S Adams | Oct 15, 2008 7:16:57 PM
"when you follow the paper trail, it led right to the source of the problem"
S Adams,
But you're not following a paper trail.
You're following the right wing script which conveniently leaves out the lack of regulation or oversight.
The only regulation you reference is the toothless bill McCain eventually cosponsored that would have created a redundant oversight agency with FEWER oversight powers.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 7:09:47 PM
S Adams,
Why in the world would you believe the same right wing media that lied to you about Iraq when it comes to the cause of the recent economic meltdown?
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 6:45:45 PM
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Ryan C--because I'm objective enough to see the truth, even if it's disagreeing with my own party. But the facts speak for themselves, and when you follow the paper trail, it led right to the source of the problem. I am not saying the Republicans were entirely innocent, but the Democrats benefitted the most from Fannie Mae, who tends to leans to the left when handing out high $$ contributions, and it was the Democrats who failed to take notice in 2006 when McCain warned them of the coming crisis.
Posted by: S Adams | Oct 15, 2008 7:02:51 PM
"Why should anyone strive to make a better life for themselves only to have a "robin hood" government that benefits those that don't have the ambition to be successful"
We have a progressive tax system as it is.
Are you seriously arguing that people will stop working because their income above a certain level will be taxed 4% more?
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 6:47:25 PM
McCain 7.0?
Is that another nasty reference to his age? The ageism from Obama's campaign is appaling. Apparently racism is bad but discrimination based on age is good? After their offensive commercial implying McCain couldn't type at a computer because of his age although it's actually due to war injuries, I didn't think they would sink this low. Axelrod is doing a great job.
Posted by: veryoffensive | Oct 15, 2008 6:46:38 PM
S Adams,
Why in the world would you believe the same right wing media that lied to you about Iraq when it comes to the cause of the recent economic meltdown?
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 6:45:45 PM
Ryan C-- Why should anyone strive to make a better life for themselves only to have a "robin hood" government that benefits those that don't have the ambition to be successful.
Posted by: S Adams | Oct 15, 2008 6:42:50 PM
Ryan C-- I did not agree with the Iraq war and I think it was the one big mistake in Bush's presidency, but we have the Democrats to blame for the economy. Starting way back with Jimmy Carter and his Reinvestment Act to medernize the FHA and expand access to more homebuyers. In 1994, Clinton, on behest of ACORN, re-wrote the act with new stipulations stating that Banks were to be given strict quotas to ensure more diversification in housing. May 5, 2006, McCain and 19 others, no Democrats, wrote a letter to Congress warning of the need to regulate Fannie Mae and they were blasted by the Democrats who accused them of being alarmists. Meanwhile, Dodd, Franks, even Obama, all had their hand in the cookie jar of Fannie Mae.
Our first 6 yrs of Bush, we had a sound economy, consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 yr high, gas was $2.19/gal, unemployment rates were 4.5%, Dow Jones hit a record high of 14,000+.
In 2006, a Democratic congress was voted in and consumer confidence plummeted, gas went up to $4.00/ gal, unemployment rate rose to 5.5%, and 1% of homes are in foreclosure.
The re-investment act finally caught up with the Banks who were pressured to make home loans to people who could not afford them then were left holding the bag.
Posted by: S Adams | Oct 15, 2008 6:35:22 PM
"Small business owners will suffer under Obama's plan. They have overhead costs, wages and benefits while having stay competitive to draw business in their market."
And Obama seeks to help them by making employee health benefits 50% tax deductible, incentives for new hires & no capital gains on small biz investment.
"$200,000 or $250,000 is not a lot of money for a business, and what about the areas that have a higher cost of living. $200,000 may be a lot for someone living in Texas or Louisiana, but it's not a lot in California or New York."
Having $250K+ a year income is alot no matter where you live.
And that is in income. Income is either part of overhead or profits or a combination of the two. It does not include biz expenses like payroll, benefits, materials costs etc.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 6:32:35 PM
Ryan C--Small business owners will suffer under Obama's plan. They have overhead costs, wages and benefits while having stay competitive to draw business in their market. $200,000 or $250,000 is not a lot of money for a business, and what about the areas that have a higher cost of living. $200,000 may be a lot for someone living in Texas or Louisiana, but it's not a lot in California or New York.
A plumber asked Obama yesterday why he would raise his taxes on his small business and Obama said, "Well, I'm not trying to punish you, I just want to make sure that people behind you are taken care of" That is a socialist point of view. Why does the plumber have to work hard and succeed to give to the person that doesn't want to work as hard?
Posted by: S Adams | Oct 15, 2008 6:24:51 PM
"And walk in clinics? We already have health clinics run by the government, they are sub-standard. I wouldn't take one step inside much less drag my kids in there."
I knew a right winger would fall for that.
That walk in clinic bit was a copy paste from the John McCain health plan.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 6:23:05 PM
"The government is responsible for the economic crisis we are in right now. Why would we want them to be in charge of our health care"
So the right wing strategy was to let Bush screw up the government so badly no one would ever trust it to run anything again?
Do you trust the government to run the military?
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 6:21:18 PM
"Obama cited Forbes as a possible member to his Cabinet"
Steve Forbes?
Gotta quote for that?
I see other right wingers spreading that around but they cite the 2nd debate and Steve Forbes was not mentioned in the 2nd debate.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 6:20:14 PM
Ryan C--The government is responsible for the economic crisis we are in right now. Why would we want them to be in charge of our health care? Nothing is ever simple when the government is in charge. And walk in clinics? We already have health clinics run by the government, they are sub-standard. I wouldn't take one step inside much less drag my kids in there. But with Obama's plan that is the only health care we will have. He is going to make it mandatory for employers to buy into this health care plan for their employees or make them pay an exorbant payroll tax. Small businesses will not be able to afford this, and will have to hire fewer people at a lower wage and give little or no benefits. And what of all the current insurance companies? They will lose business and have to reduce their staff also, causing more unemployed people. McCain's plan would keep these companies in business but make them more competitive and drive down the costs with his $5,000 credit and we will still have a choice.
Posted by: S Adams | Oct 15, 2008 6:18:03 PM
"McCain has repeatedly claimed that Obama would raise tax rates for 23 million small-business owners. It's a false and preposterously inflated figure.
We find that the overwhelming majority of those small-business owners would see no increase, because they earn too little to be affected. Obama's tax proposal would raise rates only on couples making more than $250,000 or singles earning more than $200,000.
McCain argues that Obama's proposed increase is a job-killer. He has a point. It's true that increasing taxes on those at the top would leave them less money for other purposes, including investment and hiring in the case of business owners. But the number of business owners who would see their rates go up would be only a small fraction of what McCain says. Many would see their taxes go down."
Gutless McCain caught in yet another lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 6:15:44 PM
"McCain has NEVER said he was increasing ANYONE's taxes"
So he is lying then.
Though Senator John McCain has promised to not raise taxes, his campaign acknowledged Wednesday that the health plan he outlined this week would have the effect of increasing tax payments for some workers, primarily those with high incomes and expensive health plans.
The campaign cannot yet project how many taxpayers might see their taxes go up, said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Mr. McCain’s top domestic policy adviser. But Mr. Holtz-Eakin said in an interview that for some, Mr. McCain’s health care tax credits would not be large enough to compensate for his proposal to eliminate the tax breaks afforded to workers with employer-provided health benefits
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 6:14:41 PM
Mr. Obama was spending more of his time explaining than attacking....
well, yeah, ryan.
Obama has his goons attacking Palin.... so he can keep his eye on the teleprompter.
The republicans don't have the goon power that the dumb dumbs do.....
Posted by: hmmmmm | Oct 15, 2008 6:13:43 PM
"the only person in this debate talking about increasing ANY taxes is Obama."
Well McCain certainly doesn't want to talk about axing health benefits even though that's exactly what his plan calls for.
Obama is being honest and telling people that if you make $250K+ your marginal income rate will go from 35% back to 39% as it was under Clinton.
That you payroll tax on money above $200K will go up 2 to 4%.
And that you capital gain tax will go from 15% to 20%.
But small business gets some breaks including a 50% tax credit on employee health plans (something McCain wants to tax employees on), a hiring incentive and no capital gains taxes on small biz investment.
If you make less than $250K, you get a multitude of tax cuts that exceed what McCain is offering.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 6:13:07 PM
Increasing taxes on those making over $250k INCLUDES 63% of small buisnesses....remember he telling the guy while he was out camp...that we must "SPREAD THE WEALTH"????
How quickly we forget!
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 15, 2008 6:05:39 PM
Axelrod sneered? Typical since Obama sneers and smirks while McCain is talking during the debates. McCain talks to the American people, why would he direct his comments to Obama?
Posted by: S Adams | Oct 15, 2008 6:04:42 PM
the only person in this debate talking about increasing ANY taxes is Obama.
McCain has NEVER said he was increasing ANYONE's taxes.....last time I checked, he said that would not be smart to increase ANY taxes right now.
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 15, 2008 6:04:35 PM
LOL.....Obama cited Forbes as a possible member to his Cabinet----yet Forbes has stated Obama's plan would devistate the economy and on a poll of CEO's across this country, Obama was rated either a D or an F.
But I suppose those polls mean nothing ...even though they signify WHOM/WHAT is being polled?
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 15, 2008 6:01:09 PM
"we have the second largest corporate tax in the WORLD and he wants to increase that"
Obama plans on leaving the corporate tax rate where it is.
McCain wants to cut it.
"He wants to increase taxes on 63% of small businesses here in the US"
Which right wing org told you that one?
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 5:58:58 PM
"Families place a high value on quickly getting simple care. Government should promote greater access through walk-in clinics in retail outlets."
This is what Michelle Obama wants to do.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 5:55:48 PM
"Right...and when more jobs go over seas under Obama's plan"
McCain is the big supporter of outsourcing.
Obama plans to remove tax breaks for companies that send jobs overseas and make tax incentives for companies who keep jobs here.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 5:48:02 PM
LOL...Nat....pretty funny......
But seriously...why even bother doing that much work??...I will just sit on my but except for every three months going down to the welfare office to do a check in and then get my food stamp, goverment check and housing assistance!
Be a nice 4 year vacation on Obama!!!!
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 15, 2008 5:47:15 PM
For all those reasons, this final debate presents McCain with what might be an insurmountable challenge: impossible expectations and instant judgments as to whether he met them. NO CHANCE
Obama has used the past month to lock in his support by being aided by superior skills in appearing presidential by not rushing to judgement.
McCain is now running against many opponents: the economy, public dissatisfaction with President Bush, the clock and a skillful rival. That's a lot to overcome in one, final, debate.
WON'T HAPPEN
From Maverick to Mush..........
POTUS OBAMA - IT'S A LOCK
Posted by: Nat Turner | Oct 15, 2008 5:45:36 PM
UnPoliticallyCorrect2008,
Since you'll be quitting your job due to an inevitable Obama win, I could use a good hired hand to cut and keep my lawn nice and manicured. Also need a good car washer. If you do really good, I'll let you walk my dog.
It depends........Onyx doesn't like TWC's.
Apply within.....
POTUS OBAMA - IT'S A LOCK!
Posted by: Nat Turner | Oct 15, 2008 5:36:17 PM
Again........what are we challenging?
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 15, 2008 5:36:16 PM
LOL....Obama's "promise (AKA lie) to cut taxes for 95% of America.....
Right...and when more jobs go over seas under Obama's plan it will not matter about his "promise (AKA lie) to cut taxes because you too will be waiting on that government check!
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 15, 2008 5:35:23 PM
"You have both Obama and Axlerod openly questioning John McCain's manhood, basically calling McCain "gutless""
McCain is gutless.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 5:33:18 PM
That is really something. You have both Obama and Axlerod openly questioning John McCain's manhood, basically calling McCain "gutless". Meanwhile it is Axelrod and Obama who hide behind their surrogates when they accuse their opponents of racism. So tell me, who are the gutless ones?
This just goes to show you what a bunch of despicable low-lifes Obama and Axelrod are.
Posted by: OxyCon | Oct 15, 2008 5:31:27 PM
"will you be Patriotic and spread your wealth this way"
I will pay my taxes if that is the question.
And I will enjoy my tax cut which will be much larger under Obama than under McCain.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 5:31:11 PM
"deny thousands of people health care like she did in Illinois"
Michelle developed a program that alleviated stress on the emergency room facilities and made sure people got to see doctors at clinics instead. They even had a shuttle service.
Meanwhile John McCain wants to tax your health benefits from an employer. A tax increase that has never been attempted.
All the right wing has are lies because they lose on the issues.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 5:30:09 PM
"redirected pork funding to his wife's salary"
Still repeating this debunked chestnut even though the raise happened a year before the earmark was requested and rejected?
Sad that you are left repeating old lies len.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 5:28:05 PM
Hey Nat/Ryan,
If Obama wins......will you be Patriotic and spread your wealth this way???
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 15, 2008 5:28:02 PM
"McCain is not Bush"
Agreed, once you take out McCain's total agreement with Bush on economic and foreign policy the men have little in common.
I mean Bush is at least 4 inches taller than McCain
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 5:26:30 PM
Nat.......
And if Obama wins....I will glady quite my job and wait for the government check......someone needs to be patriotic towards me for once....I need a break anway......wonder if I can get some of that money to pay off my student loans???
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 15, 2008 5:25:17 PM
Ryan.....there is plenty of scientific ANYTHING that has been around for decades and centuries that are NOT 100% accurate or some even worth the paper they are written on.
You base your arguement on polling with NOTHING about your polls to back up who was polled.......You forget about the human condition come election day and what may take place between now and then.
Counting your chickens before they hatch is not always the smartest thing to do.......
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 15, 2008 5:23:32 PM
UnPoliticallyCorrect2008,
Are you still here whining?
Ahhhh, the sweet sign of victory. In 20 days, I will be sitting back with a good chardonnay with my birkenstocks propped up while watching the GOP and fellow cynics committ a massive meltdown. "Honey", could you pour me another glass? Palin is giving a shoutout to her homies.
It's going to be a stone cold gas!!!
Just look at the GOP flapping like fish out of water. They actually have to take out loans to finance campaigns of anticipated losers.
That 60 vote holy grail in the Senate is gonna put the elephant out of its misery.
Posted by: Nat Turner | Oct 15, 2008 5:21:43 PM
"The bottom line is, do you want another 4-12 years of the inept and corrupt Bush/Cheney political appointees in power?"
McCain is not Bush.
On the other hand, Obama IS Obama. So the question is do we want even one year of a man who lied about his associates, trained and sponsored an organization perpetrating voter fraud to subvert democracy, solicited bribes to buy a house, redirected pork funding to his wife's salary and expects us to believe he didn't know his personal mentor of twenty years wasn't a hate filled racist?
Jeez. What a hard choice? I feel my typical bitterness clouding my judgement. Oh who should it be?
Ok. McCain and Palin.
Posted by: len | Oct 15, 2008 5:21:14 PM
Again....you are not giving me an example of anything.....
I said one of the main reason is that PEOPLE are buying crap they CANNOT afford.....
The last time I checked, Cindy McCain can afford her "stuff".
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 15, 2008 5:18:43 PM
"After several weeks in which the McCain campaign unleashed a series of strong political attacks on Mr. Obama, trying to tie him to a former 1960s radical, among other things, the poll found that more voters see Mr. McCain as waging a negative campaign than Mr. Obama. Six in 10 voters surveyed said that Mr. McCain had spent more time attacking Mr. Obama than explaining what he would do as president; by about the same number, voters said Mr. Obama was spending more of his time explaining than attacking."
ROFLMAO!
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 5:18:38 PM
"Now, when they poll only 900 people in a states that has over a million people in it....how much since does that make?"
Classic anti-science by the right wing.
Scientific polling has been around for decades.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 5:17:45 PM
"She should apologize because her dad built a buisness from teh ground up"
You spoke of materialism I gave you a strong example from the GOP ticket.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 5:15:03 PM
The bottom line is, do you want another 4-12 years of the inept and corrupt Bush/Cheney political appointees in power? Because those are the people working to get McCain elected, and they are the ones would get to stay in power, along with their corruption and knack for ruining everything they touch.
Do you want another 4-12 years of racking up insane amounts of debt through tax breaks for the ultra-rich - and even more wars - that my generation, and generations to come, are supposed to deal with?
Wake Up America. Change? or More of the Same?
Finally, why does McCain have over 30 casino industry lobbyists working on his campain? Do we really want those people getting even more influence in the regulatory process?
Posted by: spinbuster | Oct 15, 2008 5:09:55 PM
Hey kids, I might be voting for Obama-but any american who isn't an idiot has respect for john McCain-Ask a democrat who is a colleage-he is a well respected man despite political differences-Remember its when McCains camp went dirty that he started losing-Obama supporters-keep a sock on it-2 weeks is a lifetime in apolitical campaign-you are turning people off-talk about the issues-the rest is kids stuff-if you are not that mature-you probably shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway
Posted by: cowgirlblues | Oct 15, 2008 5:07:36 PM
Ryan C......She should apologize because her dad built a buisness from teh ground up?
LMAO....tell that to Obama with his $1.6 million dollar mansion REZKO helped him get....or the private education Michelle Obama was whinning about that cost them so much.....or her clothes....LMAO.......
Does Michelle assist with Charities? How about how much that gave to charities---her big whopping $300 last year???? Right........and Cindy McCain set up charitable programs....assist with them and pays out the wazooo to charities.......
Nice try!
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 15, 2008 5:05:22 PM
Yes, one might say Obama has "mastered" the art of having his surrogates browbeat any difficult questions out of them...then he can dodge legitimate issues rather deftly and focus on elements of them that are not at issue..
Obama would be a great lawyer. Problem is, adversarial conduct does not really mesh with bipartisanship or seeing the whole picture on a particular subject.
Case in point: Obama attacks Bush for creating the financial crisis, while ignoring Dems' role, which even liberal SNL mocked.
Have fun with your magic checks from Obama...they won't last long and you still won't have a job. The "green" jobs plan is going to be a giant Amtrak...
Hmm, MAYBE we should have corp taxes at least competitive with socialist Europe? Will that encourage businesses to invest here? Maybe. Nah, let's raise them
Things HAVE been screwed up by Dems and republicans alike. McCain is not perfect, but Obama's plan will be like gas on a fire.
Posted by: Wade | Oct 15, 2008 5:04:10 PM
Ahhhh...that was suppose to read $60,00 cars and $400,00 homes
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 15, 2008 5:01:31 PM
"I am sure the meltdown of the economy has NOTHING to do with this materialistic society either"
Ask 8 houses and 10+ cars McCain whose wife wore a $300K outfit to the RNC.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 4:59:24 PM
BenjaminF???? Really??
If I recall correctly, of course you might want to ask Bill Clinton--but the root of all this mess is the housing situation--you know, the ones that Barney Franks, Chris Dodd and Harry Reid REFUSED to regulate after Bill Clinton asked them too, Bush asked three different years and McCain asked 2 different years.
Barney Franks was too busy giving his lover, and Exec with Fannie and Freddie a free ride/millions of YOUR dollars!!!
Dodd and Franks did not want to regulate F&F, they are doing fine---sure they were, because Raines was cooking the books and telling them everything was okay.
I am sure the meltdown of the economy has NOTHING to do with this materialistic society either.....where $60,000 with $5,000 tricked out wheels....$4,000 radio systems......$400,000 people do not need and $200 for a friggin pair of jeans charged to credit cards, card that will end up being cut up on bankruptcy court......
Right....that has NOTHING to do with it either!
Wait……neither does all of the spending that goes on in Washington, right?
I bet most of you did not know this, but if you buy a home that is $100,000 or more, do you know that there is an automatic line item that charges you $400 that goes to ACORN or groups like that?
Therefore, if you buy say 4 homes in your lifetime, either moving, marriage, bigger home because of kids or smaller because they move out---the government rapes you of $1,200 and gives it to ACORN ----wait, LMAO.... TO GET OUT THE VOTE or bully people!!!
Right.........
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 15, 2008 4:57:31 PM
"Additionally McCain didn't lose either of the two debates thus far,"
Post debate polling and focus groups say otherwise.
"and neither did Sarah"
Palin won the focus groups, lost the post debate polling.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 4:56:02 PM
look-John McCain doesn't look Obama in the eye-because he has no respect for him-and he does not respect him most recently for going back on his word to accept matching funds-now that i understand-i consider that to be a lack of character issue thats more important than the ayers rezko things-that said -McCain lost my vote with the Palin pick and the negative attacks-personally i prefer Hillary-but have decided to vote obama biden.
Posted by: cowgirlblues | Oct 15, 2008 4:55:34 PM
Barack just called out FOX!!
Posted by: Mike NC | Oct 15, 2008 4:54:54 PM
"McCain did show is birth records TO CONGRESS and he was born to TWO American Citizens, one was serving in the US Navy in the Panama Canal during the time of his birth, which was recognized as American soil at the time."
No, the Canal Zone was not American soil.
But that doesn't matter.
McCain and Obama are both eligible to run and the argument on both sides is silly (all due respect Mike NC)
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 15, 2008 4:54:03 PM
Brenda...corrupt in what way.Give us some examples.........
Posted by: cindyct | Oct 15, 2008 4:51:22 PM
Lord have mercy......McCain did show is birth records TO CONGRESS and he was born to TWO American Citizens, one was serving in the US Navy in the Panama Canal during the time of his birth, which was recognized as American soil at the time.
We all know he graduated almost bottom of his Naval Academy class.....not sure why we need to even go there again.
1400 pages of medical records were released, even if only for 3 hours---Obama has release one piece of paper where his "doctor" summarized his medical records.....really?
Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | Oct 15, 2008 4:50:47 PM
whatever...GOOD ONE...........
Posted by: formerMcCain | Oct 15, 2008 4:49:58 PM
Seems that John McCain was born outside the continental United States also.
He was born in the Panama Canal Zone. I guess no one is questioning his citzenship?
Posted by: concerned | Oct 15, 2008 4:49:18 PM
BenjaminF
I hope you keep posting that all day even if just the first paragraph!
Good post (tips hat)
Posted by: Mike NC | Oct 15, 2008 4:48:04 PM
Axelrod is a thug. His reputation for stealing elections is legendary. He really should hide himself somewhere and not speak. Additionally McCain didn't lose either of the two debates thus far, and neither did Sarah. Liberals have the press inventing things for them daily, do you really believe they would put in print that McCain won? It's funny how just after the debates, McCain won on points, or McCain and Obama had a draw, but a few days in, and WOW, suddenly Obama won.
Barack Hussein Obama is CORRUPT. I don't care if he's black, Muslim, Christian (Hardly) or the best speaker to hit a suit since Reagan, he's corrupt.
Americans will NOT elect him.
However, if you choose to sit and drink your koolaid and believe, do.
Posted by: Brenda | Oct 15, 2008 4:47:17 PM
Later William J. LePetomaine
Posted by: Mike NC | Oct 15, 2008 4:43:59 PM
If lower taxes for the rich and less regulation for corporations are the answer to creating a good economy, why are we in so much trouble? The Republican party has been in power for 8 years, and these policies have all but wrecked our country's economy. Now McCain proposes to lower the taxes for the rich yet more, and to pay for a huge givaway to fat cats in Wall Street, paid for with your tax dollars.
McCain hoped to harness an ugly, slavering beast comprised of far-right paranoia, hatred, fear, prejudice, and ignorance, and ride it to victory, but now he is starting realize that many Americans dislike his substitution of slander for an actual discussion of the issues.
His zig-zagging on slandering Obama is just one more example of his increasingly erratic behavior and poor judgment, and yet more proof that he has completely lost his moral center--the result of selling his soul to the Karl Rove faction of the Republican party. He is retracting some of his slanders, not because he has repented of them, but because he sees that they have backfired by alienating the undecided voters that he needs if he is to have any hope of winning.
To all of this we have to add McCain's truly horrible pick for Vice President. What was he thinking? He's 72 years old and has had repeated bouts with cancer! Can any of us really imagine a President Palin? The thought is frightening-she is far more ignorant and inexperienced than our current president was when he took office, and we have seen what a disaster he created: The occupation of Iraq, the hunt for Bin Laden, Katrina, Wall Street and the banking deregulation fiasco have combined to create a perfect storm of misery for the US.
McCain's claim to be a 'maverick' are absurd-he has voted with Bush 90% of the time, has over 80 lobbyists on his staff, and has elected to veer to the far right in his campaign, to the point of taking advice from Karl Rove. A better description would indeed be erratic, as he claims Obama would raise taxes more than he would one moment, and then the next moment comes up his very own $300,000,000 pork-barrel give-away program to people who borrowed money they couldn't possibly pay back.
I don't think many of us are enjoying the McCain campaign's tactic of slandering the opposition instead of focusing on the issues. Certainly, for every negative thing they say about Obama, they have a similar or worse charge that can be leveled against McCain. Obama and Ayers? How about McCain and the Contras?
If you are enjoying the meltdown of the banking system and the Dow at 9000, you'll love a McCain Presidency--McCain was right there with Bush deregulating the banks and freeing them from the constraints that previously prevented this kind of greed-driven disaster. Think back, when was the last time you felt secure and prosperous? I'll bet Clinton was President. This is not a coincidence. Vote Obama, if you don't want another Great Depression.
Posted by: BenjaminF | Oct 15, 2008 4:43:03 PM
Well, folks. It's been fun today. I sure enjoy toying with the weak, lame arguments of the McCain supporters, but all good things must come to an end. Time to sign-off, grill a steak, open a nice Cabernet and watch McCain tank once again!
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | Oct 15, 2008 4:41:25 PM
McCain dosen't make eye contact with Obama because it's like staring defeat in the face. And I think what little conscience he has left restricts him from misleading and lying to someone's face.
Posted by: BNea | Oct 15, 2008 4:39:32 PM
len
The vote in the senate had no legal authority...
It was a show of support! No law was created by the senate statement!
Try something else!
Posted by: Mike NC | Oct 15, 2008 4:39:02 PM
Not into tongue-in-cheek humor, there, Len?
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | Oct 15, 2008 4:34:32 PM
"I want to see McCain prove HIS citizenship and release HIS transcripts."
You must have gotten in this fight only recently. The Republican and Democratic candidates voted on a resolution ensuring McCain was qualified last spring in case of doubt. Don't bother with this line of rhetoric.
Posted by: len | Oct 15, 2008 4:33:50 PM
Not only that about McCain, but I heard he is secretly a Hindu. I don't think we can trust them.
LOL
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | Oct 15, 2008 4:33:31 PM