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I find Palin extraordinarily stupid.
Contrary to the slogan "you can't fix stupid," I disagree. An education will fix stupid. What you can not fix is mean. Palin and McCain are both mean, rash and rude. Americans are waking up. The only people left in their rag tag camp are the truly loathsome. That Christopher Buckley came out for Obama speaks of the impossibility of this vile duo being elected, thank God.

Palin can not be trusted, the outrages
character and stupid action using her
authority to crush individuals just prove she not only can not be trusted,
she will further cause dangerous decision, especially in the countries
crisis. Instead of helping the people
she use her unauthorized authority to
out right step on individuals. This type of actions is not good for our country and the people who live in it.
Also, after finding out she further has
ties with the Alaskan Independance Party
was further shocking. I have no idea why McCain picked her. She really need to step down from her current position
because her actions are horrible. You
would think she would have consulted her legal staff rather than her husband
who do not have any legal ground to take advantage to confidential records;
he is not an elected official period.
How many other confidential records he
reviewed? This is very damaging knowing
the feeling an authorized person having
a green light to review confidential
records that are to be protected under
the privacy act and other fereral guide-
lines within the constitutinal laws that
govern our country.

Palin is playing a more dangerous game than she realizes. She has surrounded herself with right-wing extremists and sees the bias very clearly there. But she doesn't bother to see that there are a large group of voters for whom Obama is hope in otherwise dispairing lives. Hatred can foment on both sides, and it has before. To make it clear, Gov. Palin, if something happened to Sen. Obama, he could be martyred and it would be pinned onto you for your careless support of hate-mongers. That means that you would be very high on the list of likely targets for retaliation. History has told us that an eye for an eye is a disastrous a concept but yet it usually does win support when something tragic happens to divide groups of people. I don't want anything tragic to happen at all to any of the candidates. Besides it being a waste of life, it would open a Pandora's box of social problems and pent-up frustrations in our society. Whether you win or lose the election, try to do the right thing for our country!

BTW, shame on you, all you folks that imply the 9/11 victims may have deserved what they got. The ones in the Twin Towers, just like you and me, they were out working a job. Most of them were office staff, many were young and had young kids. And what about the random group of folks on the planes - you can't say they were doing something that was exploitative - they just boarded the wrong plane. Or the firemen... Keep your thoughts on what's really wrong here, don't dilute it with crazy stuff.

Aussie: I didn't watch Sarah Palin's interview with Katie Couric but I did watch her first interview with Charles Gibson. She told Charles Gibson that you can see Russia from an island off the coast of Alaska in the Bering Sea. She did not say that she had ever been to the island though! She DID NOT tell Charles Gibson that you can see Russia from her house! I don't know what she told Katie Couric but she told Charles Gibson the truth!

Last October, at a gathering of various anti-U.S. groups in Chattanooga, Tenn., called the Secessionist Convention, Clark’s husband, Dexter, expressed hope that Palin’s political rise was a positive sign for their independence movement. “Our current governor, who I mentioned at the last conference, the one we were hoping would get elected, Sarah Palin, did get elected,” Dexter, a homespun-looking man in jeans and suspenders and a ZZ Top beard, told the assembly of secessionists. “There’s a joke — she’s a pretty good-lookin’ gal — there’s a joke around, that we’re the coldest state with the hottest governor. And there’s a lot of talk about her moving up. She was an AIP member, before she got the job as the mayor of a small town. That was a nonpartisan job. But to get along to go along, she eventually joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with their ethics … And she’s pretty well sympathetic, because of her former membership.”

Hey Jimmy what about Sarah's Ties to the AIP?
Palin addressed the AIP convention, stating that she shared the party’s “vision.”
“Keep up the good work,” Palin told party members. “And God bless you.”
Whether or not Palin herself was an AIP member, Clark makes it clear that the GOP vice presidential candidate is a kindred spirit.
“I’ve admired Sarah from the first time I met her at the 2006 (AIP) convention,” which Palin also addressed, says Clark. “She impressed me so much. She’s Alaskan to the bone; she’s a damn good gal.
“As I was listening to her, I thought she sounds like what we’ve been saying for years. I thought to myself, ‘My God, she sounds just like Joe Vogler.’”
Vogler was the craggy, fire-breathing secessionist who founded the Alaskan independence movement in the early 1970s. Among the colorful Vogler quotes now in circulation are “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” Then there’s “The fires of hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American government.” And “The problem with you John Birchers is that you are too damn liberal!”
Vogler ran unsuccessfully for governor three times between 1974 and 1986, on a platform promoting an “Independent Nation of Alaska.” By the 1990s, Vogler had built party membership to about 20,000, and the party scored its first major electoral victory when former Republican Governor and U.S. Secretary of the Interior Wally Hickel joined the AIP and won the gubernatorial race.
By then, Vogler was close to achieving one of his major goals: speaking before the United Nations (despite his antipathy toward the international body) on Alaska independence. According to the AIP, Iran had offered to sponsor Vogler’s appearance — which surely would have been an unsettling moment for the United States in the U.N. assembly.

"Doc Rene"
I hear what your saying about the lies that Biden had told during the debate but what you failed to mention is that the source that both CNN and The Sly FOX used in those statement also found that in that same debate Palin lied 12 times like the one about Obama voting 94 times to increase taxes on the middle class which one week after that debate McCain again said I don't understand why when it has already been said that it was a lie he would come out and say it again did he just not want to be called a flip flopper even on a lie.
As for your statement about small businesses being taxed to the point that they have to cut jobs I wonder how your ears work do you only here what McCain/Palin say and not what Obama or Biden say because that same source that checked the facts for CNN and FOX News said that those statements were also lies. I am a republican and am starting to be embarrassed to say that because the people in my party are way to often practicing selective hearing and tunnel vision. Why is it that people in both parties have such a hard time being what FOX News says the are supposed to be FAIR AND BALANCED. Some don't have so much of a problem of being fair to their own side but it it the BALANCED part of that phrase that people don't seem to understand. Both campaigns have told some lies and thats that not just one side lies. By the way the fact that we are in an economic crisis started long before any of the candidates even anounced their canidacies. And when it got really bad more people changed their minds and went to Obamas side so if what you are saying was true wouldn't the McCain campaign have seen the surge of supporters instead of Obama. Ron Paul 08. I say write him in on your ballot.

"mildly dangerous" isn't that what Cheney and Ashcroft said when they wanted to stifle criticism? And DEMs criticized them for it. What's dangerous about speaking one's mind?

It took Hillary almost 2 years to shatter that glass ceiling into 18 million pieces. It took Sarah Palin not even 2 months to glue them back together.

If anyone is unpatriotic, it is McCain. If he knows how to turn around the economy, knows how to get bin laden, and has not shaired that with the Army generals or the president, then that is the height of someone not patriotic. Americans should hold Mccain responsible for allowing our country to waste so much money in Iraq nad Afghanistan, while bin laden still wonders around and Mccain knows how to get him.

The only thing missing from a McCain/Palin rally are people actually wearing their sheets.

CNN and Fox News proved that Biden did not tell the truth 11 times during the recent Palin/Biden Debates. What is know is that Biden like Obama are liars. What is known, just like the world markets are reacting to the "fear of Obama may win the presidential race", we have lost our investment in three weeks that took us decades to save. So don't worry about Obama's capital gains plans. Record losses don't give you profits to report. Obama's tax plan will for small businesses to get rid of employees to pay more taxes and those of you that work for small business which is most Americans, will soon not have a job.

The events of 40 years ago are not irrelevent but they are not relevent to Obama's canidacy. And I find it strange that the first person in the McCain campaign to bring up the past was palin who during her debate with biden she said there you go again Joe looking at the past. I think she just revived another canadian's career Alanis Morisett can write a sequal to isn't it ironic about the McCain campaign alone and tie the record for longest song ever with the song that never ends yes it goes on and on 'my friends' which is McCains favorite phrase.

About Sarah Palin saying she could see russia from alaska.
She said from an island and tina fey said from my house but she has never seen russia at all because she has never been to that island.

By the way she talks about creating jobs for Americans but when she chose who would build the pipeline that has been proposed (not already under construction as she said in the debate) she did not choose an american company that would have provided more Americans and Alaskans with job she chose to give the contract to a canadian company with candian workers. OUTSCOURCING rears its head again. And her 80% approval rating is dropping because of this choice. I know this because I'm one of the people calling alaskans and asking what they think of her. Before she did this they loved her but since she made this choice the tide has turned.

If anybody believes Obama that events 40 years ago are irrelevant, you should search John Murtagh on the web. He was 9 years old when Bill Ayers' terrorist group targeted his family home with 4 bombs. Bill Ayers says he does not regret setting bombs - that he did not do enough. I shudder to think that a presidential candidate would form a relationship with such a person and that portions of the American public would think that inquiry into the relationship is out of bounds.

It will danger if Obama become president of the USA. Obama will hold the key of USA nuclear, and his friend ayer will ask obama to push that button.

I think that the Secret Service should censure Palin and Company. To threaten the life of a government official is a federal offense, as is inciting to riot over racial matters. Put that stupid woman in prison, please.

The McCain Camp is a disgrace to American, to incite violence by not telling supporters it is not ok to go around saying kill him in referring to Obama or anyone for that matter. But this is Just the GOP being the GOP, that is why you see such hate on this blog. They hate to lose and will pay you back with cut throat underhanded dirty deeds, look at Wall Street and the Big Companies, you think they are run by the average Joe Six pack, or Soccer Mom's nope they are run by the Good Old Boy Network. Tax Credits, Bail outs, Loop holes, no penalties, Large pay outs even if a company is failing. Why are there are no jobs here because they let companies off shore jobs, and make you train these people while you know the pink slip is coming, no new job in site and long unemployment lines, our own country is falling apart, look at the Bridge collapse and the levees breaking, roads are messed up can't even clean up the messes nature is making here (good Job Brownie). When they should be fixing the United States infrastructure and creating jobs, the GOP would rather play GI Joe and spend money in other countries that are making billions and are not contributing. The GW Bush will not even let Iraq make its own decisions about its future, they want to micro manage it, at the cost of Afghanistan the Place Osama Bin Laden has been since 9-11. Does the GOP care, no as long as they get thier perks $$$$$.

Honestly,

Obama's "bitter" comments were not wisely chosen, but it must be noted he was not going out of his way to incite people's anger- he'd said it at a private fundraiser. It was careless, and he should not have said that, but that's different from McCain and Palin who are making such divisive remarks on their STUMP SPEECHES.

McCain now refers to his fellow Americans as "fellow prisoners."

What's up?

"He told the San Fran elite that Pennsylvanian's are bitter, gun clinging, racists .. then he comes to PA to suck up. People of PA, do not forget the remarks this man made about you. This is what he thinks of the people of Pennsylvania."
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It's a little worse than THAT :^) -- the corporate Stalinists Obama's fronting for have disdain for the unrich in ANY state ... hence the campaign's avoidance of discussing anything but the "middle class".

Voting for the hijacked "Democrats" isn't even the "lesser of two evils", this time around.

The best thing to do is vote for Nader. If everybody were to vote for Nader who would LIKE to, Nader would actually ... win the election.

The news media need to be at this rallies of Palin and McCain and get these people on tape or what they say on video tape. Palin and McCain enticing hate with a good chance of bodily harm to Barack Obama is dangerous. Neither Palin or McCain tried to stop the threats!! Where is FBI??? What are they doing?? Threats to a Presidential Candidate that is guarded by FBI and threatened is serous!! And it's against the law!
Jake, please get ABC to follow these rallies close and be prepared to get on tape. Then apply lots of pressure. I am worried!!

Oh, but Obama's comments are not dangerous? Did Biden and America seem to forget? He told the San Fran elite that Pennsylvanian's are bitter, gun clinging, racists .. then he comes to PA to suck up. People of PA, do not forget the remarks this man made about you. This is what he thinks of the people of Pennsylvania.

John McCain would never say such harsh remarks about American people. This is a good example of Obama's judgement and what he thinks in his heart. He thinks he is above the working class. Don't reward him with your votes.

Sarah Palin brings glory to her gods Hannity and Limbaugh. She brings great shame to McCain, though.

Obama/Biden 08!

carlyonsue

Sarah Palin DID INDEED SAY "I can see Russia from my house"

She even discussed it in her interview with Couric:

It all took place during part two of Katie Couric's exclusive interview with Sarah Palin.

The Alaskan governor defended her foreign policy experience. She said she didn't get a passport until last year because she spent her life working "at home."

And she also addressed her comment "I can see Russia from my house," made famous by Tina Fey on Saturday Night Live.

"You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?" Couric asked.

Mary, Sarah Palin DID NOT say that she could see Russia from her house! She said that Russia can be seen from an island off the coast of Alaska in the Bering Sea. She named the island but I can't remember the name right now. There was a video about it on one of the news programs last week and they showed the island and they showed the coast of Russia in the distance. You can indeed see Russia from Alaska but Sarah DID NOT say that she can see it from her house! She has been much misquoted about that and ridiculed without reason about it too!

When a person is mentally deranged, they do not look into anybody's eyes, but, McCain said he looked into Putin's eyes and he saw three letters KGB. He failed to look into Palin's eye's and did not see the three letters KGB. He failed to read between the lines when she said she could see Russia from her house. Do we know who Sarah Palin is. Is she a facist from Alaska. American's are such gullible people, kind and good. Jesus said for the christians not to let their guard down, because there would be false prophets and that christians would be deceived by these false prophets

The Palin Hate Rally reminds us of the nationalistic demonstrations that led up to the invasion of Poland in the 1930's. Democratic nations stood by and watched while whole segments of society were persecuted. Nobody stepped up to nip it in the bud. We need to nip these Hate Rallies in the bud, before the Palin zealots get comfortable spewing their brand of Republican hate. Where is the press when we really need them? Where is the media when we need them to help safeguard our democracy?

ABC News - get on this story, please. You've got to be there the next time Palin's blood thirsty crowd goes crazy. These people are zealots and they are going to hurt someone. You better get it on tape.. for history, for ABC World News, for This Week, and for evidence.

The McCain campaign is off the road and into the ditch. We know that. But this new turn of events, the hate rally for Sarah Palin, is truly disturbing. If ABC News showed us Rev. Wright once they showed him 10,000 times. Give us the same footage of the hateful crowd at the Palin rally. It's disturbing. But America needs to see it.

Today the McCain campaign announced that Palin would only be interviewed, on Fox News, by Hannity and Greta Van Sustren. O'Reilly will NOT be allowed to interview Palin. Isn't it time for Chris Wallace to start the clock on Palin? Palinites: if you're getting your TV news from Fox then they are hiding something from you. But why?

ABC News - get off your rear end and show America some footage from the Palin hate rallies. It was on Fox News...the footage is there... wing-nuts screaming for blood. Show us the real Palin and the crazy, blood thirsty people who follow her around. It's a cult. Unless you are in the tank for McCain you will show America the footage.

Mara,

All Christians believe the Bible. The last book of the Bible says there will be an apocalypse and an end of this world - a second coming of Jesus Christ.

That's not exactly a "fringe" belief.

It's mainstream. You may not agree with it... but you are not the arbiter of other people's religious beliefs. Governor Palin's beliefs are not creating a political issue.

If she went to a church that was a Marxist black liberation theology church for 20 years that preached hatred of "white America"... you'd have a point. If you were white or a black person that isn't racist, that would probly be a concern.

It is for me.

Sam,

I wonder what others think. I'm thinking of becoming "radical". The reason?? I see how evil government becomes as it takes our money. (For example, the bills you quoted to force education that is really political indoctrinatoin). But, more than that, how government "had money" and it created the mortgage meltdown... and then the economic crisis.

This resulted in a "bail out" vote in which our officials refused to hear the people and voted "yes" when we said "no".

My "radical" nature would say, "Enough's enough". Yes, I'm against Obama himself as a candidate. But I am really not putting extensive "faith" in any politician. I believe the evidence shows - they do more harm than good.

I would like to radically "defund" the federal government other than basic necessities like the military, etc. and things of that nature. Otherwise, I believe everything must be returned to the states... monetarily. (And they should be defunded also.)

What citizen referendums can we get on the ballot to illegalize federal taxation by constitutional amendment??

These SOB's have destroyed our economy. The money they have the more harm they do.

I would like the necessary programs "earmarked" like defense, social security, medicare - programs that are "social contracts" the government already entered into. Then basic things like diplomacy.

I would like to see us pay down the national debt... and save money.

But I would like to defund the federal government and pull a tax revolution by citizen referendum and constitutional amendment.

No more income tax. Rather, whatever the amount we decide to provide for the basics... maybe just a flat tax. If it's small enough, we can all pay our equal share. Wouldn't that be "fairness"?? If every American over age 18 paid the same tax?? Perhaps provide "tax rebates" to waive the tax and "zero it out" for those making under "$X" per year. They can present an income tax return. The rest of us who will pay the flat tax - we'll just pay it all the same amount.

I'm ready for tax revolution and defunding government. They've only abused the money and have destroyed our economy.

No more money. They didn't listen to our "NO" vote... so I say we do a citizen referendum and defund the SOB's. They we don't have to worry about "special interests" anymore. There won't be any money available to them.

Federal government - defunded. Existing only to provide necessary functions... and all other power goes back to the states.

I'm ready for a tax revolution to defund the federal government of it's wastefulness and deficit spending... because it failed to monitor itself and destroyed our economy.

No more of money to you!! Game over.

Voter1010: You forgot that McCain hangs out with other convicted felons (Cindy's daddy and uncle), and a spiritual advisor who believes that 70 million Catholics are the anti-Christ. The Palins hang out with he AIP (whose founder called for violence against Americans and said that he hated the US - not when Tood was 9, but when he was in his 30s - and he joined anyway), and belonged to a church for 28 years which preaches end-of-days philosophy (life will end in our lifetimes and we will help to bring that about through war in the middle east - which will bring the second coming of Christ - Alaska will be a refuge during those days - before rapture. She is a stealth candidiate who is hiding her true religious beliefs. Domestic terrorists? You don't have to look at old board meeting records. All you have to do is look in the newspaper. The Palins are Ruby-Ridge revisited.

Angry American Voter,

Remember - the truth shall set you free.

Angry American Voter,

We're not demonizing you... you are being demonized as you listen to Obama lie. That's the demon: the lies.

how do you know that those out-of-order demonstrators at Palin's rallies are not some of Obama's "plants".... like the ones at the Republican convention and at several of McCain's?

Frankly, I wouldn't put it past Obama's campaign; and it certainly wouldn't have been the first time!

"Obama has shown that he is a man of limited experience, questionable convictions, deeply troubling associations (Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, Tony Rezko) and an alarming lack of self-definition-do you really know who he is and what he believes?" -Charles Krauthammer

"Obama could have allied himself with all sorts of other people. But, time and again, he allied himself with people who openly expressed their hatred of America. No amount of flags on his campaign platforms this election year can change that." -Thomas Sowell

"Our opponent... is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect-imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country. This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America. We see America as a force of good in this world. We see an America of exceptionalism." -Sarah Palin

boo, If the truth got out about Obama and his radical ties to people who want to blow up America it would be a wonder that more people would not be carrying pitch forks. You would to if you had any common sense.

Just who do John McCain and Sarah Palin think they are demonizing in their attacks against Obama? The man himself? They would be wrong about that. They are demonizing everyone who is planning to vote for Obama, and that's an awful lot of people to offend. It's also why their strategy will fail.

But there is a larger picture here. Long after this campaign is over, I will be one of millions of Americans who will never forget Sarah Palin and the mentality that she espouses. And we will not forget those who have worked to fill the TV screens with lies for this campaign. Or those who have sat in the stands screaming racist threats of violence behind her.

Should Sarah Palin ever dare to run for any national or state office, millions of Americans will not forget what she really is

Ayers has not renounced his radical anti-American views. In fact on 9/11 Ayers stated that "he wished he could have done more" in reference to his bombing of the Pentagon in the 60s. Ayers used the Annenberg Challenge, which Obama chaired, to promote and indoctrinate children and parents into his radical beliefs via the Chicago school system which included the overthrow of the US capitalistic system. Steve Diamond's blob, has documented Obama's clear connection and buy in to Ayers radical anti-American beliefs. Steve Diamond "Classic examples of neo-stalinist regimes - regimes that Ayers and people in his political camp respect and support - are the Chavez regime in Venezuela, the Sandinista regime in Nicaragua, the Castro regime in Cuba, and the maoist regime in China.

How could such a world view have anything to do with Obama? Well, the route that Ayers and his camp have followed to promote his form of authoritarian politics is a critical policy area: education.

Ayers advocates what he calls a "social justice" approach to education. What that means is the promotion of his authoritarian politics through our public school system. Four key tactics that Ayers supports in order to help implement his world view are

* the creation of "local school councils" (LSCs) like those that Ayers has promoted in Chicago for the last 20 years;
* "small schools" which Ayers has also promoted since the early 1990s in Chicago and elsewhere;
* the advocacy of what Ayers and others call "social justice" teaching; and
* the payment of reparations through education spending to correct what he has seen for 40 years as the fundamentally racist nature of American society.

Local school councils and small schools, I should hasten to point out, have nothing to do with improving student test scores and outcomes. That is not their purpose and, in fact, the Ayers camp is actually opposed to objective standards like test scores as a measure of the effectiveness of our schools. The purpose of these entities is to create a political base for Ayers and his band of fellow traveling authoritarians to push their wider political agenda.

Once inside the schools Ayers, who now heads the curriculum division of the leading education professional association, attempts to alter the teaching content of classrooms to include a "politically correct" "social justice" curriculum.

As Ayers explained in a speech in Venezuela in front of strong man Hugo Chavez on his fourth visit to that country in November 2006, there are "profound education reforms underway here in Venezuela under the leadership of President Chavez. We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution." He found in Chavez' authoritarian Venezuela institutions being created that were very similar to what he advocates here in the United States.

And it turns out that Barack Obama also supports all four of those key tactical ideas and has since the earliest days of his political career.

But did that critical conclusion appear in the Times story?

No, they were too busy trying to convince their readers of what those readers already knew: that Obama had no support for the foray into violence by Ayers from 1969-1980.

Thus, for example, the Times did not tell its readers that when Barack Obama was a community organizer in Chicago from 1985 to 1988 the organization he led, the Developing Communities Project (DCP), was a leading player in the lobbying campaign for "local school councils" in Chicago in the wake of a strike by the Chicago Teachers Union.

LSCs were mandated by a state law put in place in 1988 as a result of that lobbying. But the Times did not explain that Bill Ayers was a leading activist in that lobbying effort, a leading member alongside Obama's DCP in the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools which led the campaign for the LSCs.

Obama and the DCP backed the LSCs even though they were viewed as an attack by many mainstream black organizations, like Jesse Jackson's Operation PUSH, on the secure middle class jobs that blacks had won for themselves as teachers and school administrators in Chicago. Thus, Obama was willing to risk his relationship to the wider black community in order to back this effort.

And when the New York Times discussed the joint work of Obama and Ayers on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, they did not explain that among the most important projects of the Challenge were the very same four policies so critical to Ayers political strategy:

* promotion of local school councils,
* financial support for small schools,
* promotion of a "social justice" teaching agenda, and
* a race based approach to education policy.

They ignored the written evidence I provided them that demonstrated that Obama was appointed to the chairmanship of the Challenge board by Bill Ayers, who conceived, founded, secured $50 million to support and led the Challenge from 1993 to 2002.

They ignored the hundreds of thousands of dollars funneled by the Challenge to the Small Schools Workshop which was founded by Ayers and then directed by Mike Klonsky who continues to head it up still. "

Having heard other accounts of this event, it was for all practical purposes a fascist rally. It was a call to hatred, vigorously answered by a mob.

Threats were made at a legitimate political candidate, and at the press. How is this different from a Nazi rally?

Even if Palin is stupid enough to not have known what she was inciting, how could she have been too stupid or cowardly to try to stop it?

This woman is an insult to our most basic American values.

Danny - True, reform is possible, but Ayers has never apologized and has said he doesn't regret what he did - in fact, he still wishes he did more. Let me ask you this, do you serve on any charitable boards with people who have bombed buildings and are unrepentant about it? I tend to avoid working with those types of people, I expect the same common sense from someone who wants to lead this country.

Steve from Danville - what exactly did she say that might incite someone to commit violence?

Obviously Ayers was a militant in the 60's, which is deplorable on many levels.

But reform is possible.

Otherwise we should go around labelling everybody by the worst things they ever did.

Around the time Obama met Ayers, Ayers had coathored a grant that got Chicago's public schools a 50 million dollar reform grant from the Annenberg foundation.

Walter Annenberg was a Republican and an ambassador to the British royal family under Nixon, and a great friend of the Reagans.

That Ayers would be dealing with the Annenberg Foundation is about as mainstream as it gets.

I just realized how much Sarah Palin has in common with Reverend Wright. Spewing hate, and then enjoying the applause. One difference, she might actually incite someone to commit violence.

Tapper - call someone in the news division and get someone to put together the footage from these hate rallies of Sarah Palin. It would be fascinating TV and it might be educational.

When America sees the ugliness of the hate spewing from the crowd at these Palin rallies, middle of the road Republicans will flee the party. And for good reason. "Hang em?" "Kill him?" What parent would let her child sit through something as ugly as that? God save us from the hater-mongers who support John McCain.

Hey Jimmy I have a economy Car not a SUV, good on gas, I work 6 days a week I have two jobs, to make sure I make my mortgage payments. In other word I work and have had nothing handed to me by my daddy or father in law the only thing they gave me was freedom of Choice no silver spoon or entitlements.

Someone's going to have to put together a short video on the Hate Rallies of Sarah Palin. There must be plenty of footage from the networks. Certainly from Fox News. A documentary on these hate rallies will be educational for a whole generation of young Americans.

I am curious about Sarah Palin husband association with Alaska Independence party. She is living in a glass house she should not throw stones. If you allow yourself to be fooled by distractions not issues again then something is wrong with you. With gas $4 a gallon, milk $5, and bread $3 the only thing I am concerned about is who can get us out of this mess. I taking my chances on the Harvard top of the class degree not the 5th from bottom naval officer with the idiot running mate and I am a conservative.

As the attacks and smears get worse, we can see the real reason. The Republican are running scared that a black/White man will be President and they can not handle it God be dam, what happened to love thy neighbor? What happen to the truth and the whole truth? What happened to Glass houses?

Oh yes and Jimmy tell us why Bush wasted our Trillion dollar Surplus ......... 6 straight years of Republican rule and what happened they started two wars one was correct the other was made up, they let the Companies Exec's run amok with multi million dollar pay days, while letting companies take jobs to other countries with no penalties.

Jimmey more spin and Scare tactics, what about McCains ties to the people of the Iran Contra Scandal, how about McCain friends with a guy from the Watergate Scandal, How about McCains connection with the KKK, or how about McCain's involvement with the Keating 5 and then you have his Managers involvement with Freddy and Franny. So Many Spins so little time. How about McCain not voting for Armor for our soldiers How about McCain not voting for Medical care for the wounded coming back from Iraq, and their is more.

I am astonish McCain supporters who claim to be the moral right, who claim to believe in God on some issued but not all, what"now you use Gods words only when it suites you, maybe I will reminded you of your 6th commandment "thou shalt not kill"
I know,it only the truth when it suites you.

It sounds like some of McCain's supporters believe that since a lot of people's sneakers from Wal-mart were made in a Marxist regime, that makes Wal-mart shoppers Marxists. They don't expect Wal-mart shoppers to say they are Marxists, but then again, what would a Marxist say? Now I realize that there are many of us ... who buy into and dedicate our lives to every crazy theory or ideology a "teacher" tells us ... many of these people, who so dedicate their lives ... believe that everybody else does that too. However, Obama may has his own ideas, and Obama's ideas are on his website ... well, that's modern times for you. (I don't know about your decontextualized citation of Obama's book, but I think that if it really implied what you describe, McCain, Hillary, and whoever would have been all over that from the beginning everyday. Maybe McCain said that he respects and admires a Marxist, but if McCain did say that he wasn't refering to Obama.)

"Before i go home to my mansion please tell me in all seriousness,"

Is mansion right winger code for Mom's basement?

"do you love your country or not?"

I love my country and the ideals we claim to stand for very much which is why right wingers disgust me so.

"Hurry up it's getting late."

This Country cant take 4 more years of control by the Republicans...Vote yes, for all Democrats.

Ryan C: Before i go home to my mansion please tell me in all seriousness, do you love your country or not? Hurry up it's getting late.

Hi there, these payments are for hotels and dinner not for stying home. Alaska is investigating this, oh her Hubby and children were reinbursted to.

USCITIZEN_04 , If you are not afraid of Obama's radical ties to communists, crooks and terrorists you are brain dead. As to substance, Obama's ties to Ayers and Wright should tell you a lot about how Obama would rule America. Obama has already told you he will increase the taxes of those who earn more than $250,000 and increase government spending by a TRILLION dollars. Problem is the math just does not ad up. I can assure you of one thing, if Obama gets elected the corrupt and bloated bureaucracy will get the lions share of the take. The bulk of the rest of the take will most probably go to Obama's ACORN buddies and his buddie's Ayers radical programs Obama funneled money to when he was the chair of the Annenberg Challenge.

McCain was being truthful when he said 50% of small businesses earn over $250,000 and their taxes would go up under an Obama administration. Since the bulk of jobs in America come from small business, workers will have to be laid off in order to pay for the higher taxes that Obama will funnel into the pockets of the bloated and corrupt bureaucracy Obama so craves. Obama's vision of change for America is to make America poorer, weaken America's military and ability to defend herself, destroy the free market and turn it over to a centralized authoritarian bureaucracy of pencil pushers who create nothing, just tell everyone how to live their lives. Obama: "You can't drive your SUVs, eat all the food you want, keep your thermostat at 72 degrees all the time. I WON'T ALLOW IT"

Seth,

It can be documented that Obama has lied. At that point, Seth, it comes down to a will issue.

You will continue to believe Obama if you want to. There is no reason to believe Obama. Obama lied about the association from the beginning. There's no reason to put any stock in what Obama says about it.

When a person lies, it makes no sense to go back to them to have them "clarify" their lie. Obama has lied repeatedly.

Follow the money. Money trails don't lie. And there are money trails between Obama and Ayers.

If I sat for 20 years under a Marxist black liberation preacher and after 20 years siad, "I didn't know they hated white America... and I just never heard him say that."... and you had tapes of the preacher stating hate for "white America"... would you believe me or would you believe your eyes??

For whatever reason, you choose to believe in Obama.

There are women who believe in abusive men who tell them that they love them.

To me, it's the same phenomenon.

When a woman comes to me and says to me (they sometimes do), "Should I believe him?" I say, "Yes. Believe him. But don't believe what comes out of his mouth. Watch his feet. His feet will not lie."

I can only give you the same advice.

We've all been young. ;) A little more healthy cynicism comes with age sometimes. At least there are some things like wine that get better with age. ;)

It's not really "sad", at all, to lose the idealism. It's nothing that hurts. A person just becomes realistic... while maintaining their own ideals.

At a certain point, you will stop trusting politicians. You will trust them only to the degree that they've proven by their experience and track record the truth of what they say.

Believe their feet. Believe what they've done and their voting records. Don't believe their promises. Watch their feet. ;)

I was young myself... and very idealistic. I was burned a few times... and survived.

If you are idealistic and if you are principled, maybe someday you should run for office.

Sometimes the most idealistic place their faith in the wrong people. But often they are the most principled... and people we could safely put our faith in. Their feet and their words... correspond.

I think you're most likely a noble person.

Grace and peace.

This Country cant take 4 more years of control by the Republicans...Vote yes, for all Democrats.

Ayers did nothing wrong. He was not found guilty. These people are what republicans hate. People like Ayers and Alinsky come up with plans that help everyone. Sharing the wealth is a plan that has been in America since the 17th century.

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I think the "sharing the wealth" idea came from England and that it was developed by some guy who lived in a forest with his gang. Let's see, I believe his name was Robin Hood, and that he believed in taking from the rich and giving it to the poor. Wow, how modern! I guess the Democrats are only taking a page from his book.

McCain is still living in the Vietnam era. In his convention speech and in his choice of villians. His old outdated ideas are the same ones that lead to our waste of blood and treasure in Vietnam. That era may be McCain's claim to fame but it is long gone and no longer relevant. McCain says he wants victory over Iraq, but he is confused since Bush's latest explanation for why we are in Iraq is to assist in the victory of Iraqi democracy. McCain's attack on some age old radical is just a distraction. If you want to live in the past, then McCain hangs around with alcoholics (George Bush), drug abusers (Cindy McCain), advocates for Red China(Henry Kissinger), and felons (G.Gordon Liddy). I think McCain should try to stick to modern times, if he can. The catch is he can't win there.

Obama in his own book stated he studied under Marxist teachers. Truth is stranger than fiction. He isn't going to come out and say, "By the way, I'm Marxist." You have to find out for yourself by doing the background and vetting him. The MSM won't do it. He sat under Marxist black liberation theology preaching for 20 years. Ayers is a Marxist.

OBama's worldview is Marxist. Do you expect Axelrod to tell the world his extremely left candidate is Marxist??

Obama has repeatedly lied about numerous things - and now says he won't commit to a target date of pulling out of Iraq.

Know why? Cuz he thinks it will get him more votes to say "no target date of pullout... I'll listen to the generals."

He'll tell you whatever you want to hear to win your vote. He's not going to admit the truth.

laurad,

I think you put too much stock in associations. We can know people and work with people without adopting their viewpoints. Sometimes we don't even know their entire viewpoint.

After all, none of us get the benefit of having a nationwide network of news reporters to do background checks on everyone we work with or meet with.